At 6/21/22 11:32 AM, Gario wrote:

At 6/21/22 09:14 AM, Russian-man wrote:

At 2/11/22 04:34 PM, Gario wrote:russia's being a real dick, here

this is ukraine behaving like an asshole since it was in a state of war for 8 years bombed the cities of Donetsk and Lugansk people's republics and people with a Russian passport died there

those weren't separate countries, they were trying to secede without negotiating with ukraine first, asshole

same thing happened in america, with similar results; you don't just announce you're a separate country and despoil ukraine of ~20% of it's land and essentially kidnap a large chunk of it's ukrainian population on a whim

russia was being a real dick when it annexed crimea and tried to annex the donetsk region, too, causing a civil war and plenty of death on both sides for nearly a decade

sure would be nice if russia stopped fucking with ukraine

At 6/21/22 01:08 PM, Gario wrote:

At 6/21/22 12:56 PM, Russian-man wrote:
this very annexation, as you say, is called a referendum in which 96.57% of the votes were for joining the Russian Federation and as for the Donetsk and Lugansk People's Republics, they are partially recognized secondly, a referendum on self-government was held in these two republics 89.07% of the Donetsk People's Republic

are you talking about the referendum that had armed pro-russian guards at each poll station intimidating in person voters, blatant violations of any fair voting standard (like a young man voting "on the behalf of his whole family"), and literal trucks full of pre-signed ballots that all supported secession from ukraine?

you mean that referendum?

because that one don't count for what i hope are obvious reasons, bucko

and Yanukovych fled the country because he would have been killed

damn, his corrupt ass probably shouldn't have gunned down protestors in 2014, then, maybe then he could've stepped down peacefully instead

At 6/21/22 01:08 PM, Gario wrote:

At 6/21/22 12:56 PM, Russian-man wrote:
this very annexation, as you say, is called a referendum in which 96.57% of the votes were for joining the Russian Federation and as for the Donetsk and Lugansk People's Republics, they are partially recognized secondly, a referendum on self-government was held in these two republics 89.07% of the Donetsk People's Republic

are you talking about the referendum that had armed pro-russian guards at each poll station intimidating in person voters, blatant violations of any fair voting standard (like a young man voting "on the behalf of his whole family"), and literal trucks full of pre-signed ballots that all supported secession from ukraine?

you mean that referendum?

because that one don't count for what i hope are obvious reasons, bucko

and Yanukovych fled the country because he would have been killed

damn, his corrupt ass probably shouldn't have gunned down protestors in 2014, then, maybe then he could've stepped down peacefully instead

At 6/21/22 01:25 PM, Russian-man wrote:

At 6/21/22 01:08 PM, Gario wrote:

At 6/21/22 12:56 PM, Russian-man wrote:
this very annexation, as you say, is called a referendum in which 96.57% of the votes were for joining the Russian Federation and as for the Donetsk and Lugansk People's Republics, they are partially recognized secondly, a referendum on self-government was held in these two republics 89.07% of the Donetsk People's Republic

are you talking about the referendum that had armed pro-russian guards at each poll station intimidating in person voters, blatant violations of any fair voting standard (like a young man voting "on the behalf of his whole family"), and literal trucks full of pre-signed ballots that all supported secession from ukraine?

you mean that referendum?

because that one don't count for what i hope are obvious reasons, bucko

and Yanukovych fled the country because he would have been killed

damn, his corrupt ass probably shouldn't have gunned down protestors in 2014, then, maybe then he could've stepped down peacefully instead

can you imagine Zelensky also steals from the treasury

At 6/21/22 01:32 PM, Gario wrote:

At 6/21/22 01:24 PM, Russian-man wrote:
referendums were held in these republics, according to the results of which they were supposed to become independent states

oh wait i forgot russians haven't seen a fair election happen in their country for a century, of course you wouldn't know what one looks like or why the elections in crimea and the donetsk region were bunk

sure does suck to not know what democracy looks like, don't it?

stop fucking with ukraine, y'all are causing a great deal of misery, including the civil war you instigated in 2014 - every dead civilian's blood is on your hands

At 6/21/22 01:34 PM, EdyKel wrote:

At 6/21/22 01:25 PM, Russian-man wrote:

At 6/21/22 01:08 PM, Gario wrote:

At 6/21/22 12:56 PM, Russian-man wrote:
this very annexation, as you say, is called a referendum in which 96.57% of the votes were for joining the Russian Federation and as for the Donetsk and Lugansk People's Republics, they are partially recognized secondly, a referendum on self-government was held in these two republics 89.07% of the Donetsk People's Republic

are you talking about the referendum that had armed pro-russian guards at each poll station intimidating in person voters, blatant violations of any fair voting standard (like a young man voting "on the behalf of his whole family"), and literal trucks full of pre-signed ballots that all supported secession from ukraine?

you mean that referendum?

because that one don't count for what i hope are obvious reasons, bucko

and Yanukovych fled the country because he would have been killed

damn, his corrupt ass probably shouldn't have gunned down protestors in 2014, then, maybe then he could've stepped down peacefully instead

can you imagine Zelensky also steals from the treasury

Yup, and the Ukrainians are Nazis, and have bio-weapons. Any more Russian propaganda you would like to fill us in on?

At 6/21/22 01:39 PM, Gario wrote:

At 6/21/22 01:37 PM, Russian-man wrote:
we provoked the civil war in Ukraine, the people of Ukraine started this genocide.

if you admit you provoked a civil war then any death that happens is not a part of a genocide, but is a casualty of war

a war that you started

so every dead russian national is your fault

At 6/21/22 01:39 PM, Gario wrote:

At 6/21/22 01:37 PM, Russian-man wrote:
we provoked the civil war in Ukraine, the people of Ukraine started this genocide.

if you admit you provoked a civil war then any death that happens is not a part of a genocide, but is a casualty of war

a war that you started

so every dead russian national is your fault

At 6/21/22 01:42 PM, Russian-man wrote:

At 6/21/22 01:34 PM, EdyKel wrote:

At 6/21/22 01:25 PM, Russian-man wrote:

At 6/21/22 01:08 PM, Gario wrote:

At 6/21/22 12:56 PM, Russian-man wrote:
this very annexation, as you say, is called a referendum in which 96.57% of the votes were for joining the Russian Federation and as for the Donetsk and Lugansk People's Republics, they are partially recognized secondly, a referendum on self-government was held in these two republics 89.07% of the Donetsk People's Republic

are you talking about the referendum that had armed pro-russian guards at each poll station intimidating in person voters, blatant violations of any fair voting standard (like a young man voting "on the behalf of his whole family"), and literal trucks full of pre-signed ballots that all supported secession from ukraine?

you mean that referendum?

because that one don't count for what i hope are obvious reasons, bucko

and Yanukovych fled the country because he would have been killed

damn, his corrupt ass probably shouldn't have gunned down protestors in 2014, then, maybe then he could've stepped down peacefully instead

can you imagine Zelensky also steals from the treasury

Yup, and the Ukrainians are Nazis, and have bio-weapons. Any more Russian propaganda you would like to fill us in on?

firstly, I did not say that Ukrainians are Nazis, I said that there are Nazis in Ukraine, and secondly, I did not say that Ukraine has biological weapons

At 6/21/22 01:47 PM, EdyKel wrote:

At 6/21/22 01:42 PM, Russian-man wrote:

At 6/21/22 01:34 PM, EdyKel wrote:

At 6/21/22 01:25 PM, Russian-man wrote:

At 6/21/22 01:08 PM, Gario wrote:

At 6/21/22 12:56 PM, Russian-man wrote:
this very annexation, as you say, is called a referendum in which 96.57% of the votes were for joining the Russian Federation and as for the Donetsk and Lugansk People's Republics, they are partially recognized secondly, a referendum on self-government was held in these two republics 89.07% of the Donetsk People's Republic

are you talking about the referendum that had armed pro-russian guards at each poll station intimidating in person voters, blatant violations of any fair voting standard (like a young man voting "on the behalf of his whole family"), and literal trucks full of pre-signed ballots that all supported secession from ukraine?

you mean that referendum?

because that one don't count for what i hope are obvious reasons, bucko

and Yanukovych fled the country because he would have been killed

damn, his corrupt ass probably shouldn't have gunned down protestors in 2014, then, maybe then he could've stepped down peacefully instead

can you imagine Zelensky also steals from the treasury

Yup, and the Ukrainians are Nazis, and have bio-weapons. Any more Russian propaganda you would like to fill us in on?

firstly, I did not say that Ukrainians are Nazis, I said that there are Nazis in Ukraine, and secondly, I did not say that Ukraine has biological weapons

But this is what Russia state controlled media is saying to justify their war in Ukraine, and you are using a lot of their propagandistic talking points in support of it.

At 6/21/22 01:47 PM, EdyKel wrote:

At 6/21/22 01:42 PM, Russian-man wrote:

At 6/21/22 01:34 PM, EdyKel wrote:

At 6/21/22 01:25 PM, Russian-man wrote:

At 6/21/22 01:08 PM, Gario wrote:

At 6/21/22 12:56 PM, Russian-man wrote:
this very annexation, as you say, is called a referendum in which 96.57% of the votes were for joining the Russian Federation and as for the Donetsk and Lugansk People's Republics, they are partially recognized secondly, a referendum on self-government was held in these two republics 89.07% of the Donetsk People's Republic

are you talking about the referendum that had armed pro-russian guards at each poll station intimidating in person voters, blatant violations of any fair voting standard (like a young man voting "on the behalf of his whole family"), and literal trucks full of pre-signed ballots that all supported secession from ukraine?

you mean that referendum?

because that one don't count for what i hope are obvious reasons, bucko

and Yanukovych fled the country because he would have been killed

damn, his corrupt ass probably shouldn't have gunned down protestors in 2014, then, maybe then he could've stepped down peacefully instead

can you imagine Zelensky also steals from the treasury

Yup, and the Ukrainians are Nazis, and have bio-weapons. Any more Russian propaganda you would like to fill us in on?

firstly, I did not say that Ukrainians are Nazis, I said that there are Nazis in Ukraine, and secondly, I did not say that Ukraine has biological weapons

But this is what Russia state controlled media is saying to justify their war in Ukraine, and you are using a lot of their propagandistic talking points in support of it.

At 6/21/22 01:56 PM, Gario wrote:

At 6/21/22 01:44 PM, Russian-man wrote:
just fuck you fucking nazi and fascist

damn getting told the reality of the situation really gets you russians triggered, don't it

lol and who says that leftists are the only people who accuse everyone they don't like of being nazis?

At 6/21/22 01:51 PM, Russian-man wrote:

At 6/21/22 01:47 PM, EdyKel wrote:

At 6/21/22 01:42 PM, Russian-man wrote:

At 6/21/22 01:34 PM, EdyKel wrote:

At 6/21/22 01:25 PM, Russian-man wrote:

At 6/21/22 01:08 PM, Gario wrote:

At 6/21/22 12:56 PM, Russian-man wrote:
this very annexation, as you say, is called a referendum in which 96.57% of the votes were for joining the Russian Federation and as for the Donetsk and Lugansk People's Republics, they are partially recognized secondly, a referendum on self-government was held in these two republics 89.07% of the Donetsk People's Republic

are you talking about the referendum that had armed pro-russian guards at each poll station intimidating in person voters, blatant violations of any fair voting standard (like a young man voting "on the behalf of his whole family"), and literal trucks full of pre-signed ballots that all supported secession from ukraine?

you mean that referendum?

because that one don't count for what i hope are obvious reasons, bucko

and Yanukovych fled the country because he would have been killed

damn, his corrupt ass probably shouldn't have gunned down protestors in 2014, then, maybe then he could've stepped down peacefully instead

can you imagine Zelensky also steals from the treasury

Yup, and the Ukrainians are Nazis, and have bio-weapons. Any more Russian propaganda you would like to fill us in on?

firstly, I did not say that Ukrainians are Nazis, I said that there are Nazis in Ukraine, and secondly, I did not say that Ukraine has biological weapons

But this is what Russia state controlled media is saying to justify their war in Ukraine, and you are using a lot of their propagandistic talking points in support of it.

and the Ukrainian media generally say that Putin is in a coma

At 6/21/22 02:01 PM, Gario wrote:

At 6/21/22 01:58 PM, Russian-man wrote:
and the reality is that we are greeted as heroes in the liberated cities

wow look at all the people greeting the russians as heros in the city of bucha, i'm sure they're real glad you came in and put them in mass unmarked graves

At 6/21/22 01:56 PM, Russian-man wrote:

At 6/21/22 01:47 PM, EdyKel wrote:

At 6/21/22 01:42 PM, Russian-man wrote:

At 6/21/22 01:34 PM, EdyKel wrote:

At 6/21/22 01:25 PM, Russian-man wrote:

At 6/21/22 01:08 PM, Gario wrote:

At 6/21/22 12:56 PM, Russian-man wrote:
this very annexation, as you say, is called a referendum in which 96.57% of the votes were for joining the Russian Federation and as for the Donetsk and Lugansk People's Republics, they are partially recognized secondly, a referendum on self-government was held in these two republics 89.07% of the Donetsk People's Republic

are you talking about the referendum that had armed pro-russian guards at each poll station intimidating in person voters, blatant violations of any fair voting standard (like a young man voting "on the behalf of his whole family"), and literal trucks full of pre-signed ballots that all supported secession from ukraine?

you mean that referendum?

because that one don't count for what i hope are obvious reasons, bucko

and Yanukovych fled the country because he would have been killed

damn, his corrupt ass probably shouldn't have gunned down protestors in 2014, then, maybe then he could've stepped down peacefully instead

can you imagine Zelensky also steals from the treasury

Yup, and the Ukrainians are Nazis, and have bio-weapons. Any more Russian propaganda you would like to fill us in on?

firstly, I did not say that Ukrainians are Nazis, I said that there are Nazis in Ukraine, and secondly, I did not say that Ukraine has biological weapons

But this is what Russia state controlled media is saying to justify their war in Ukraine, and you are using a lot of their propagandistic talking points in support of it.

well, what kind of theses do we use

At 6/21/22 02:05 PM, EdyKel wrote:

At 6/21/22 01:56 PM, Russian-man wrote:

At 6/21/22 01:47 PM, EdyKel wrote:

At 6/21/22 01:42 PM, Russian-man wrote:

At 6/21/22 01:34 PM, EdyKel wrote:

At 6/21/22 01:25 PM, Russian-man wrote:

At 6/21/22 01:08 PM, Gario wrote:

At 6/21/22 12:56 PM, Russian-man wrote:
this very annexation, as you say, is called a referendum in which 96.57% of the votes were for joining the Russian Federation and as for the Donetsk and Lugansk People's Republics, they are partially recognized secondly, a referendum on self-government was held in these two republics 89.07% of the Donetsk People's Republic

are you talking about the referendum that had armed pro-russian guards at each poll station intimidating in person voters, blatant violations of any fair voting standard (like a young man voting "on the behalf of his whole family"), and literal trucks full of pre-signed ballots that all supported secession from ukraine?

you mean that referendum?

because that one don't count for what i hope are obvious reasons, bucko

and Yanukovych fled the country because he would have been killed

damn, his corrupt ass probably shouldn't have gunned down protestors in 2014, then, maybe then he could've stepped down peacefully instead

can you imagine Zelensky also steals from the treasury

Yup, and the Ukrainians are Nazis, and have bio-weapons. Any more Russian propaganda you would like to fill us in on?

firstly, I did not say that Ukrainians are Nazis, I said that there are Nazis in Ukraine, and secondly, I did not say that Ukraine has biological weapons

But this is what Russia state controlled media is saying to justify their war in Ukraine, and you are using a lot of their propagandistic talking points in support of it.

well, what kind of theses do we use

What country are you from? I live in the US, and we have a two party system, with wide range of opinions in our media, which is often critical of our govermnet, and more critical depending on what party is in control at the the time.

At 6/21/22 02:02 PM, EdyKel wrote:

At 6/21/22 01:51 PM, Russian-man wrote:

At 6/21/22 01:47 PM, EdyKel wrote:

At 6/21/22 01:42 PM, Russian-man wrote:

At 6/21/22 01:34 PM, EdyKel wrote:

At 6/21/22 01:25 PM, Russian-man wrote:

At 6/21/22 01:08 PM, Gario wrote:

At 6/21/22 12:56 PM, Russian-man wrote:
this very annexation, as you say, is called a referendum in which 96.57% of the votes were for joining the Russian Federation and as for the Donetsk and Lugansk People's Republics, they are partially recognized secondly, a referendum on self-government was held in these two republics 89.07% of the Donetsk People's Republic

are you talking about the referendum that had armed pro-russian guards at each poll station intimidating in person voters, blatant violations of any fair voting standard (like a young man voting "on the behalf of his whole family"), and literal trucks full of pre-signed ballots that all supported secession from ukraine?

you mean that referendum?

because that one don't count for what i hope are obvious reasons, bucko

and Yanukovych fled the country because he would have been killed

damn, his corrupt ass probably shouldn't have gunned down protestors in 2014, then, maybe then he could've stepped down peacefully instead

can you imagine Zelensky also steals from the treasury

Yup, and the Ukrainians are Nazis, and have bio-weapons. Any more Russian propaganda you would like to fill us in on?

firstly, I did not say that Ukrainians are Nazis, I said that there are Nazis in Ukraine, and secondly, I did not say that Ukraine has biological weapons

But this is what Russia state controlled media is saying to justify their war in Ukraine, and you are using a lot of their propagandistic talking points in support of it.

and the Ukrainian media generally say that Putin is in a coma

Coma? That's a first, usually it's rumors about "Putin being severly sick". Still, that's whole lot nicer than claiming that an entire country are full of Nazis, with bio weapons, led by a Jew.

At 6/21/22 02:01 PM, BUM-DRILLER wrote:

At 6/21/22 01:56 PM, Gario wrote:lol and who says that leftists are the only people who accuse everyone they don't like of being nazis?

Naw but you are still the ones who accuse individual people of genocide and starting wars, like he’s some kind of DBZ villain with ludicrous cosmic power.

Gario, you are unhinged.

At 6/21/22 02:03 PM, Russian-man wrote:

At 6/21/22 02:01 PM, Gario wrote:
wow look at all the people greeting the russians as heros in the city of bucha, i'm sure they're real glad you came in and put them in mass unmarked graves

maybe it looks like this here because this is not a liberated city from the APU

At 6/21/22 02:11 PM, Russian-man wrote:

At 6/21/22 02:02 PM, EdyKel wrote:

At 6/21/22 01:51 PM, Russian-man wrote:

At 6/21/22 01:47 PM, EdyKel wrote:

At 6/21/22 01:42 PM, Russian-man wrote:

At 6/21/22 01:34 PM, EdyKel wrote:

At 6/21/22 01:25 PM, Russian-man wrote:

At 6/21/22 01:08 PM, Gario wrote:

At 6/21/22 12:56 PM, Russian-man wrote:
this very annexation, as you say, is called a referendum in which 96.57% of the votes were for joining the Russian Federation and as for the Donetsk and Lugansk People's Republics, they are partially recognized secondly, a referendum on self-government was held in these two republics 89.07% of the Donetsk People's Republic

are you talking about the referendum that had armed pro-russian guards at each poll station intimidating in person voters, blatant violations of any fair voting standard (like a young man voting "on the behalf of his whole family"), and literal trucks full of pre-signed ballots that all supported secession from ukraine?

you mean that referendum?

because that one don't count for what i hope are obvious reasons, bucko

and Yanukovych fled the country because he would have been killed

damn, his corrupt ass probably shouldn't have gunned down protestors in 2014, then, maybe then he could've stepped down peacefully instead

can you imagine Zelensky also steals from the treasury

Yup, and the Ukrainians are Nazis, and have bio-weapons. Any more Russian propaganda you would like to fill us in on?

firstly, I did not say that Ukrainians are Nazis, I said that there are Nazis in Ukraine, and secondly, I did not say that Ukraine has biological weapons

But this is what Russia state controlled media is saying to justify their war in Ukraine, and you are using a lot of their propagandistic talking points in support of it.

and the Ukrainian media generally say that Putin is in a coma

Coma? That's a first, usually it's rumors about "Putin being severly sick". Still, that's whole lot nicer than claiming that an entire country are full of Nazis, with bio weapons, led by a Jew.

who claims that ukraine is full of nazis

What country are you from? I live in the US, and we have a two party system, with wide range of opinions in our media, which is often critical of our govermnet, and more critical depending on what party is in control at the the time.

the same Vladimir Volfovich also criticized United Russia quite strongly

At 6/21/22 02:28 PM, Gario wrote:

At 6/21/22 02:01 PM, BUM-DRILLER wrote:

At 6/21/22 01:56 PM, Gario wrote:lol and who says that leftists are the only people who accuse everyone they don't like of being nazis?

Naw but you are still the ones who accuse individual people of genocide and starting wars, like he’s some kind of DBZ villain with ludicrous cosmic power.

Gario, you are unhinged.

aww, you do care about my posts <3

though you still don't seem to understand how stochastic terrorism works, so you still have some homework to do if you want to speak intelligently on this (probably not in this thread, since this is about russia's invasion of ukraine)

At 6/21/22 02:03 PM, Russian-man wrote:

At 6/21/22 02:01 PM, Gario wrote:

wow look at all the people greeting the russians as heros in the city of bucha, i'm sure they're real glad you came in and put them in mass unmarked graves

maybe it looks like this here because this is not a liberated city from the APU

that is the aftermath of russian occupation, buddy, that's entirely on you

At 6/21/22 02:38 PM, EdyKel wrote:

At 6/21/22 02:11 PM, Russian-man wrote:

At 6/21/22 02:02 PM, EdyKel wrote:

At 6/21/22 01:51 PM, Russian-man wrote:

At 6/21/22 01:47 PM, EdyKel wrote:

At 6/21/22 01:42 PM, Russian-man wrote:

At 6/21/22 01:34 PM, EdyKel wrote:

At 6/21/22 01:25 PM, Russian-man wrote:

At 6/21/22 01:08 PM, Gario wrote:

At 6/21/22 12:56 PM, Russian-man wrote:
this very annexation, as you say, is called a referendum in which 96.57% of the votes were for joining the Russian Federation and as for the Donetsk and Lugansk People's Republics, they are partially recognized secondly, a referendum on self-government was held in these two republics 89.07% of the Donetsk People's Republic

are you talking about the referendum that had armed pro-russian guards at each poll station intimidating in person voters, blatant violations of any fair voting standard (like a young man voting "on the behalf of his whole family"), and literal trucks full of pre-signed ballots that all supported secession from ukraine?

you mean that referendum?

because that one don't count for what i hope are obvious reasons, bucko

and Yanukovych fled the country because he would have been killed

damn, his corrupt ass probably shouldn't have gunned down protestors in 2014, then, maybe then he could've stepped down peacefully instead

can you imagine Zelensky also steals from the treasury

Yup, and the Ukrainians are Nazis, and have bio-weapons. Any more Russian propaganda you would like to fill us in on?

firstly, I did not say that Ukrainians are Nazis, I said that there are Nazis in Ukraine, and secondly, I did not say that Ukraine has biological weapons

But this is what Russia state controlled media is saying to justify their war in Ukraine, and you are using a lot of their propagandistic talking points in support of it.

and the Ukrainian media generally say that Putin is in a coma

Coma? That's a first, usually it's rumors about "Putin being severly sick". Still, that's whole lot nicer than claiming that an entire country are full of Nazis, with bio weapons, led by a Jew.

who claims that ukraine is full of nazis

Putin, his govermnet, and his state controlled media. Hell, Putin even gave a speech about it.

What country are you from? I live in the US, and we have a two party system, with wide range of opinions in our media, which is often critical of our govermnet, and more critical depending on what party is in control at the the time.

the same Vladimir Volfovich also criticized United Russia quite strongly

The guy is almost a shadow image of Putin. This doesn't change the fact that Russia basically has a one party system, with a state controlled media, with the Russian govermnet cracking down on anything that doesn't promote the govermnet sanctioned narrative over Ukraine - with a lot of Russian opposition disappearing, mysteriously dying, or being sent to prison (Alexei Navalny).

At 6/21/22 02:38 PM, EdyKel wrote:

At 6/21/22 02:11 PM, Russian-man wrote:

At 6/21/22 02:02 PM, EdyKel wrote:

At 6/21/22 01:51 PM, Russian-man wrote:

At 6/21/22 01:47 PM, EdyKel wrote:

At 6/21/22 01:42 PM, Russian-man wrote:

At 6/21/22 01:34 PM, EdyKel wrote:

At 6/21/22 01:25 PM, Russian-man wrote:

At 6/21/22 01:08 PM, Gario wrote:

At 6/21/22 12:56 PM, Russian-man wrote:
this very annexation, as you say, is called a referendum in which 96.57% of the votes were for joining the Russian Federation and as for the Donetsk and Lugansk People's Republics, they are partially recognized secondly, a referendum on self-government was held in these two republics 89.07% of the Donetsk People's Republic

are you talking about the referendum that had armed pro-russian guards at each poll station intimidating in person voters, blatant violations of any fair voting standard (like a young man voting "on the behalf of his whole family"), and literal trucks full of pre-signed ballots that all supported secession from ukraine?

you mean that referendum?

because that one don't count for what i hope are obvious reasons, bucko

and Yanukovych fled the country because he would have been killed

damn, his corrupt ass probably shouldn't have gunned down protestors in 2014, then, maybe then he could've stepped down peacefully instead

can you imagine Zelensky also steals from the treasury

Yup, and the Ukrainians are Nazis, and have bio-weapons. Any more Russian propaganda you would like to fill us in on?

firstly, I did not say that Ukrainians are Nazis, I said that there are Nazis in Ukraine, and secondly, I did not say that Ukraine has biological weapons

But this is what Russia state controlled media is saying to justify their war in Ukraine, and you are using a lot of their propagandistic talking points in support of it.

and the Ukrainian media generally say that Putin is in a coma

Coma? That's a first, usually it's rumors about "Putin being severly sick". Still, that's whole lot nicer than claiming that an entire country are full of Nazis, with bio weapons, led by a Jew.

who claims that ukraine is full of nazis

Putin, his govermnet, and his state controlled media. Hell, Putin even gave a speech about it.

What country are you from? I live in the US, and we have a two party system, with wide range of opinions in our media, which is often critical of our govermnet, and more critical depending on what party is in control at the the time.

the same Vladimir Volfovich also criticized United Russia quite strongly

The guy is almost a shadow image of Putin. This doesn't change the fact that Russia basically has a one party system, with a state controlled media, with the Russian govermnet cracking down on anything that doesn't promote the govermnet sanctioned narrative over Ukraine - with a lot of Russian opposition disappearing, mysteriously dying, or being sent to prison (Alexei Navalny).

At 6/21/22 02:47 PM, Russian-man wrote:

At 6/21/22 02:38 PM, EdyKel wrote:

At 6/21/22 02:11 PM, Russian-man wrote:

At 6/21/22 02:02 PM, EdyKel wrote:

At 6/21/22 01:51 PM, Russian-man wrote:

At 6/21/22 01:47 PM, EdyKel wrote:

At 6/21/22 01:42 PM, Russian-man wrote:

At 6/21/22 01:34 PM, EdyKel wrote:

At 6/21/22 01:25 PM, Russian-man wrote:

At 6/21/22 01:08 PM, Gario wrote:

At 6/21/22 12:56 PM, Russian-man wrote:
this very annexation, as you say, is called a referendum in which 96.57% of the votes were for joining the Russian Federation and as for the Donetsk and Lugansk People's Republics, they are partially recognized secondly, a referendum on self-government was held in these two republics 89.07% of the Donetsk People's Republic

are you talking about the referendum that had armed pro-russian guards at each poll station intimidating in person voters, blatant violations of any fair voting standard (like a young man voting "on the behalf of his whole family"), and literal trucks full of pre-signed ballots that all supported secession from ukraine?

you mean that referendum?

because that one don't count for what i hope are obvious reasons, bucko

and Yanukovych fled the country because he would have been killed

damn, his corrupt ass probably shouldn't have gunned down protestors in 2014, then, maybe then he could've stepped down peacefully instead

can you imagine Zelensky also steals from the treasury

Yup, and the Ukrainians are Nazis, and have bio-weapons. Any more Russian propaganda you would like to fill us in on?

firstly, I did not say that Ukrainians are Nazis, I said that there are Nazis in Ukraine, and secondly, I did not say that Ukraine has biological weapons

But this is what Russia state controlled media is saying to justify their war in Ukraine, and you are using a lot of their propagandistic talking points in support of it.

and the Ukrainian media generally say that Putin is in a coma

Coma? That's a first, usually it's rumors about "Putin being severly sick". Still, that's whole lot nicer than claiming that an entire country are full of Nazis, with bio weapons, led by a Jew.

who claims that ukraine is full of nazis

Putin, his govermnet, and his state controlled media. Hell, Putin even gave a speech about it.

What country are you from? I live in the US, and we have a two party system, with wide range of opinions in our media, which is often critical of our govermnet, and more critical depending on what party is in control at the the time.

the same Vladimir Volfovich also criticized United Russia quite strongly

The guy is almost a shadow image of Putin. This doesn't change the fact that Russia basically has a one party system, with a state controlled media, with the Russian govermnet cracking down on anything that doesn't promote the govermnet sanctioned narrative over Ukraine - with a lot of Russian opposition disappearing, mysteriously dying, or being sent to prison (Alexei Navalny).

Navalny would have ruined Russia

The guy is almost a shadow image of Putin. This doesn't change the fact that Russia basically has a one party system, with a state controlled media, with the Russian govermnet cracking down on anything that doesn't promote the govermnet sanctioned narrative over Ukraine - with a lot of Russian opposition disappearing, mysteriously dying, or being sent to prison (Alexei Navalny).

in the United States, everything is exactly the same, only they do it secretly, and as for Putin's speech, why should I believe this site that has not been verified, and Navalny is exactly the same buffoon as Zelensky who will do everything the West tells him

At 6/21/22 03:01 PM, EdyKel wrote:

At 6/21/22 02:47 PM, Russian-man wrote:

At 6/21/22 02:38 PM, EdyKel wrote:

At 6/21/22 02:11 PM, Russian-man wrote:

At 6/21/22 02:02 PM, EdyKel wrote:

At 6/21/22 01:51 PM, Russian-man wrote:

At 6/21/22 01:47 PM, EdyKel wrote:

At 6/21/22 01:42 PM, Russian-man wrote:

At 6/21/22 01:34 PM, EdyKel wrote:

At 6/21/22 01:25 PM, Russian-man wrote:

At 6/21/22 01:08 PM, Gario wrote:

At 6/21/22 12:56 PM, Russian-man wrote:
this very annexation, as you say, is called a referendum in which 96.57% of the votes were for joining the Russian Federation and as for the Donetsk and Lugansk People's Republics, they are partially recognized secondly, a referendum on self-government was held in these two republics 89.07% of the Donetsk People's Republic

are you talking about the referendum that had armed pro-russian guards at each poll station intimidating in person voters, blatant violations of any fair voting standard (like a young man voting "on the behalf of his whole family"), and literal trucks full of pre-signed ballots that all supported secession from ukraine?

you mean that referendum?

because that one don't count for what i hope are obvious reasons, bucko

and Yanukovych fled the country because he would have been killed

damn, his corrupt ass probably shouldn't have gunned down protestors in 2014, then, maybe then he could've stepped down peacefully instead

can you imagine Zelensky also steals from the treasury

Yup, and the Ukrainians are Nazis, and have bio-weapons. Any more Russian propaganda you would like to fill us in on?

firstly, I did not say that Ukrainians are Nazis, I said that there are Nazis in Ukraine, and secondly, I did not say that Ukraine has biological weapons

But this is what Russia state controlled media is saying to justify their war in Ukraine, and you are using a lot of their propagandistic talking points in support of it.

and the Ukrainian media generally say that Putin is in a coma

Coma? That's a first, usually it's rumors about "Putin being severly sick". Still, that's whole lot nicer than claiming that an entire country are full of Nazis, with bio weapons, led by a Jew.

who claims that ukraine is full of nazis

Putin, his govermnet, and his state controlled media. Hell, Putin even gave a speech about it.

What country are you from? I live in the US, and we have a two party system, with wide range of opinions in our media, which is often critical of our govermnet, and more critical depending on what party is in control at the the time.

the same Vladimir Volfovich also criticized United Russia quite strongly

The guy is almost a shadow image of Putin. This doesn't change the fact that Russia basically has a one party system, with a state controlled media, with the Russian govermnet cracking down on anything that doesn't promote the govermnet sanctioned narrative over Ukraine - with a lot of Russian opposition disappearing, mysteriously dying, or being sent to prison (Alexei Navalny).

Navalny would have ruined Russia

Ruined it for who? The oligarchs that control the country?

The guy is almost a shadow image of Putin. This doesn't change the fact that Russia basically has a one party system, with a state controlled media, with the Russian govermnet cracking down on anything that doesn't promote the govermnet sanctioned narrative over Ukraine - with a lot of Russian opposition disappearing, mysteriously dying, or being sent to prison (Alexei Navalny).

in the United States, everything is exactly the same, only they do it secretly, and as for Putin's speech, why should I believe this site that has not been verified, and Navalny is exactly the same buffoon as Zelensky who will do everything the West tells him

Unfortunately, in today's US, it's hard to keep anything a secret for long, considering that people are free to whistleblow on thing they consider corupt or immoral... or they just outright leak shit, without fear of being killed. You can't say the same about Russia, because that would weaken it which you don't want.

And for a guy called Russian-man, who blindly supports Putin, because you are conditioned to believe he is righteous and strong, and anything that says otherwise is western propaganda, including Putin's own speech about calling Ukraine Nazis, maybe you should look at yourself first before accusing others of being brainwashed by propaganda.