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Pingu
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Response to Audio Appeal Thread 2024-01-14 18:59:26

At 1/14/24 06:49 PM, TheSweaterCinderace wrote:Hello! I was recently unscouted for “scouting artists with stolen music”. The last thing I recall the only thing I feel like I have done wrong is scout artists with a low amount of submissions. [...] I know better than to scout people with stolen music, and I feel like I deserve a second chance.


Since I mentioned it on reddit, just gonna consolidate these:

via reddit: (you wrote) I haven’t been scouting people with stolen music???


Disagree


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Usually I have done this, because the song sounded high quality, and I liked it a lot.


You must have searched for and scouted a bunch of people with any reference to the term "fire in the hole" as they all had issues and were 1) low quality and 2) the only submission the users had.


One submission does not meet the criteria to offer people audio portal membership, as you can't get a sense of their actual ability (and even less when most of those had a bunch of meme clips in it).


Your scout privilege is gone. You remain a member of the audio portal and can share music, but will not be able to invite others.

Audio / Forum / Games & Movies Moderator. Flag stolen content, don't be a dingus.

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Wyshz
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Response to Audio Appeal Thread 2024-01-14 19:09:34 (edited 2024-01-14 19:17:56)

At 1/14/24 07:07 PM, TheSweaterCinderace wrote:
At 1/14/24 06:59 PM, Pingu wrote:
At 1/14/24 06:49 PM, TheSweaterCinderace wrote:Hello! I was recently unscouted for “scouting artists with stolen music”. The last thing I recall the only thing I feel like I have done wrong is scout artists with a low amount of submissions. [...] I know better than to scout people with stolen music, and I feel like I deserve a second chance.

Since I mentioned it on reddit, just gonna consolidate these:

via reddit: (you wrote) I haven’t been scouting people with stolen music???


Disagree

Usually I have done this, because the song sounded high quality, and I liked it a lot.


You must have searched for and scouted a bunch of people with any reference to the term "fire in the hole" as they all had issues and were 1) low quality and 2) the only submission the users had.

One submission does not meet the criteria to offer people audio portal membership, as you can't get a sense of their actual ability (and even less when most of those had a bunch of meme clips in it).

Your scout privilege is gone. You remain a member of the audio portal and can share music, but will not be able to invite others.

Again, I also disagree. I clearly didn’t read the description. I’m dyslexic.


This is also a shared account between me and my brother. It’s likely that he has been doing things against my consent while not having read the audio guidelines. He’s also 2 years younger than me, and he’s on serious GD brainrot right now


I AM NOT lying when I say this is not my fault in the slightest

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Wyshz
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Response to Audio Appeal Thread 2024-01-14 19:33:27 (edited 2024-01-14 19:34:25)

At 1/14/24 07:31 PM, TheSweaterCinderace wrote:
At 1/14/24 06:59 PM, Pingu wrote:
At 1/14/24 06:49 PM, TheSweaterCinderace wrote:Hello! I was recently unscouted for “scouting artists with stolen music”. The last thing I recall the only thing I feel like I have done wrong is scout artists with a low amount of submissions. [...] I know better than to scout people with stolen music, and I feel like I deserve a second chance.

Since I mentioned it on reddit, just gonna consolidate these:

via reddit: (you wrote) I haven’t been scouting people with stolen music???


Disagree

Usually I have done this, because the song sounded high quality, and I liked it a lot.


You must have searched for and scouted a bunch of people with any reference to the term "fire in the hole" as they all had issues and were 1) low quality and 2) the only submission the users had.

One submission does not meet the criteria to offer people audio portal membership, as you can't get a sense of their actual ability (and even less when most of those had a bunch of meme clips in it).

Your scout privilege is gone. You remain a member of the audio portal and can share music, but will not be able to invite others.


Will I be able to become scoutable again if I create a new account? Is that allowed or is that ban evasion?


I’m trying my best to comply with these unnecessarily strict audio guidelines and restrictions. This ban was unjust.

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Pingu
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Response to Audio Appeal Thread 2024-01-14 19:41:13

At 1/14/24 07:33 PM, TheSweaterCinderace wrote:Will I be able to become scoutable again if I create a new account? Is that allowed or is that ban evasion?


Going around consequences can lead to account termination.


I’m trying my best to comply with these unnecessarily strict audio guidelines and restrictions.


I don't see how this was unnecessarily strict? Your account scouted bad stuff, and had consequences. There risk to sharing accounts online.


This ban was unjust.


You aren't banned. Take some time to chill a bit. I have to tinker on your profile a bit to fix something so you may get some notifications.


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Wyshz
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Response to Audio Appeal Thread 2024-01-14 19:45:19

At 1/14/24 07:44 PM, TheSweaterCinderace wrote:
At 1/14/24 07:41 PM, Pingu wrote:
At 1/14/24 07:33 PM, TheSweaterCinderace wrote:Will I be able to become scoutable again if I create a new account? Is that allowed or is that ban evasion?

Going around consequences can lead to account termination.

I’m trying my best to comply with these unnecessarily strict audio guidelines and restrictions.


I don't see how this was unnecessarily strict? Your account scouted bad stuff, and had consequences. There risk to sharing accounts online.

This ban was unjust.


You aren't banned. Take some time to chill a bit. I have to tinker on your profile a bit to fix something so you may get some notifications.


Wait, what do you mean tinker? Can you elaborate what youre doing

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Pingu
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Response to Audio Appeal Thread 2024-01-14 19:49:08

At 1/14/24 07:45 PM, TheSweaterCinderace wrote:Wait, what do you mean tinker? Can you elaborate what youre doing


Your ability to scout others was revoked (intentional) but it also knocked you out of the scouted audio section (unintended, in this case). That could be a bug which I've passed up to the admin.

Audio / Forum / Games & Movies Moderator. Flag stolen content, don't be a dingus.

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Wyshz
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Response to Audio Appeal Thread 2024-01-14 19:57:44

At 1/14/24 07:49 PM, Pingu wrote:
At 1/14/24 07:45 PM, TheSweaterCinderace wrote:Wait, what do you mean tinker? Can you elaborate what youre doing

Your ability to scout others was revoked (intentional) but it also knocked you out of the scouted audio section (unintended, in this case). That could be a bug which I've passed up to the admin.


That’s the problem I had to deal with. It’s not the being able to scout others being my problem, it’s the being scouted itself. Thank you Pingu. I will be more responsible with my account from now on.


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ADR3-N
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Response to Audio Appeal Thread 2024-01-15 02:15:10

At 1/14/24 07:09 PM, TheSweaterCinderace wrote:This is also a shared account between me and my brother. It’s likely that he has been doing things against my consent while not having read the audio guidelines. He’s also 2 years younger than me, and he’s on serious GD brainrot right now

I AM NOT lying when I say this is not my fault in the slightest


I would strongly suggest you make your brother get his own account, change your password, and log out of all your sessions. Get 2-FA while you're at it.


He has likely been using yours to get rule breaking content into GD. It's an addiction. People will lie, cheat and steal, anything for the dopamine.


Explain to your brother too that it takes a lot more than being scouted on NG to get into GD. Now you need that AND to be put on the white list by the GD elder mods. Basically if you weren't grandfathered in prior to the whitelist updates, it can take months if not years, maybe even never, all thanks to people acting exactly like your brother and his favorite uploaders.

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Wyshz
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Response to Audio Appeal Thread 2024-01-15 09:13:15

At 1/15/24 02:15 AM, ADR3-N wrote:
At 1/14/24 07:09 PM, TheSweaterCinderace wrote:This is also a shared account between me and my brother. It’s likely that he has been doing things against my consent while not having read the audio guidelines. He’s also 2 years younger than me, and he’s on serious GD brainrot right now

I AM NOT lying when I say this is not my fault in the slightest

I would strongly suggest you make your brother get his own account, change your password, and log out of all your sessions. Get 2-FA while you're at it.

He has likely been using yours to get rule breaking content into GD. It's an addiction. People will lie, cheat and steal, anything for the dopamine.

Explain to your brother too that it takes a lot more than being scouted on NG to get into GD. Now you need that AND to be put on the white list by the GD elder mods. Basically if you weren't grandfathered in prior to the whitelist updates, it can take months if not years, maybe even never, all thanks to people acting exactly like your brother and his favorite uploaders.


I will, thank you for the advice.


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Icebberg76
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Response to Audio Appeal Thread 2024-01-15 13:33:55 (edited 2024-01-15 13:40:57)

hi, I went to upload a song named vortex, a song i had previously made and released on Spotify before, only to get hit by my own copyright. if i need to somehow prove that Spotify account is mine, I'd be willing to do so, I've always considered my Newgrounds account my main music platform

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Response to Audio Appeal Thread 2024-01-15 15:14:56

At 12/20/21 05:54 PM, Pingu wrote:Hi there!

You're upset that one of your songs was flagged by our scanning program, and want to come ask about it. To consolidate all the little threads which float in Where is/How to and Audio forums, we've created a collective spot to dump your grief.

To keep things moving along, make sure you have done the following FIRST:

If you meet the above criteria AND it has been a few days since you filed the appeal (greater than 3), post your case here and we'll look into it.

Keep in mind, we are sorting through all the appeals manually which takes time to do properly for all parties involved. This process can be hampered by not providing supporting material at the outset.

Be polite.


Hello very good afternoon or evening, I am an independent artist of electronic and experimental music, the thing is that I have previously uploaded my music to streaming sites like Spotify, Apple Music, Deezer and so on. 


When I wanted to upload my music from immediately I got a copyright warning on my music, and those copyrights are my property. Here is my appeal about all my emails, UPC codes:https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/copyright/appeal/view/90901


If you could kindly check my music and about the loops I would be very grateful. Thank you for your attention.

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Icebberg76
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Response to Audio Appeal Thread 2024-01-16 14:33:04 (edited 2024-01-16 14:43:49)

At 1/15/24 01:33 PM, Icebberg76 wrote:hi, I went to upload a song named vortex, a song i had previously made and released on Spotify before, only to get hit by my own copyright. if i need to somehow prove that Spotify account is mine, I'd be willing to do so, I've always considered my Newgrounds account my main music platform


sorry for any inconvenience, the problem looks to have resolved itself

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MilkiShow
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Response to Audio Appeal Thread 2024-01-17 07:09:28 (edited 2024-01-17 07:13:22)

I didn’t even have time to post the track and I was banned for who knows when. I made a wretched effect on "bad piggers drip" and I don't know what to do. This account is very dear to me. A year has passed and I still haven’t been unbanned and I can’t delete the track

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Response to Audio Appeal Thread 2024-01-17 07:26:24

At 1/17/24 07:09 AM, MilkiShow wrote:I didn’t even have time to post the track and I was banned for who knows when. I made a wretched effect on "bad piggers drip" and I don't know what to do. This account is very dear to me. A year has passed and I still haven’t been unbanned and I can’t delete the track.

How do I check tracks for copyright then? for example, I want to post a track from YouTube that has no copyright?


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Wyshz
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Response to Audio Appeal Thread 2024-01-18 00:56:30

At 1/14/24 07:49 PM, Pingu wrote:
At 1/14/24 07:45 PM, TheSweaterCinderace wrote:Wait, what do you mean tinker? Can you elaborate what youre doing

Your ability to scout others was revoked (intentional) but it also knocked you out of the scouted audio section (unintended, in this case). That could be a bug which I've passed up to the admin.


Have the admins done anything yet? I’m not trying to sound impatient by the way

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ADR3-N
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Response to Audio Appeal Thread 2024-01-18 01:10:08

At 1/18/24 12:56 AM, TheSweaterCinderace wrote:Have the admins done anything yet? I’m not trying to sound impatient by the way


The last action on your account was to revoke your scouting privileges, but it looks like that also removes your scouted status, as mentioned. This may be an oversight, as usually we don't have an issue of an otherwise rule-abiding user having poor choices in scouting others. Oversights like these can take a while to fix.


I have the ability to either scout you or reset your status -- which does essentially the same thing in this situation, but I would refer to @TomFulp or @Exedor before doing so, as they were the last to address your case.

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Response to Audio Appeal Thread 2024-01-18 02:10:17

At 1/18/24 01:10 AM, ADR3-N wrote:
At 1/18/24 12:56 AM, TheSweaterCinderace wrote:Have the admins done anything yet? I’m not trying to sound impatient by the way

The last action on your account was to revoke your scouting privileges, but it looks like that also removes your scouted status, as mentioned. This may be an oversight, as usually we don't have an issue of an otherwise rule-abiding user having poor choices in scouting others. Oversights like these can take a while to fix.

I have the ability to either scout you or reset your status -- which does essentially the same thing in this situation, but I would refer to @TomFulp or @Exedor before doing so, as they were the last to address your case.


Scouting privileges were revoked due to a moderate percentage of his scouts being pruned. Use better judgement, I guess...? It doesn't look like this user was de-scouted, tho. I see a system ban a while back. @TomFulp will have to put an eye upon it.

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Response to Audio Appeal Thread 2024-01-18 02:30:11

At 1/18/24 02:10 AM, Exedor wrote:
At 1/18/24 01:10 AM, ADR3-N wrote:
At 1/18/24 12:56 AM, TheSweaterCinderace wrote:Have the admins done anything yet? I’m not trying to sound impatient by the way

The last action on your account was to revoke your scouting privileges, but it looks like that also removes your scouted status, as mentioned. This may be an oversight, as usually we don't have an issue of an otherwise rule-abiding user having poor choices in scouting others. Oversights like these can take a while to fix.

I have the ability to either scout you or reset your status -- which does essentially the same thing in this situation, but I would refer to @TomFulp or @Exedor before doing so, as they were the last to address your case.

Scouting privileges were revoked due to a moderate percentage of his scouts being pruned. Use better judgement, I guess...? It doesn't look like this user was de-scouted, tho. I see a system ban a while back. @TomFulp will have to put an eye upon it.


He shows as unscouted on my end. I can't ever remember a case like this, where pruning revoked scouting. Could potentially have been an accident with an update somewhere along the way and never needed to be looked at until now. If @TheSweaterCinderace is willing to pinky swear they won't scout any miscreants in the future and only scout good ole law abiding portal users from here on out, I'm fine with scouting them again, personally. We all make mistakes.

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Wyshz
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Response to Audio Appeal Thread 2024-01-18 07:28:32

At 1/18/24 02:30 AM, ADR3-N wrote:
At 1/18/24 02:10 AM, Exedor wrote:
At 1/18/24 01:10 AM, ADR3-N wrote:
At 1/18/24 12:56 AM, TheSweaterCinderace wrote:Have the admins done anything yet? I’m not trying to sound impatient by the way

The last action on your account was to revoke your scouting privileges, but it looks like that also removes your scouted status, as mentioned. This may be an oversight, as usually we don't have an issue of an otherwise rule-abiding user having poor choices in scouting others. Oversights like these can take a while to fix.

I have the ability to either scout you or reset your status -- which does essentially the same thing in this situation, but I would refer to @TomFulp or @Exedor before doing so, as they were the last to address your case.

Scouting privileges were revoked due to a moderate percentage of his scouts being pruned. Use better judgement, I guess...? It doesn't look like this user was de-scouted, tho. I see a system ban a while back. @TomFulp will have to put an eye upon it.

He shows as unscouted on my end. I can't ever remember a case like this, where pruning revoked scouting. Could potentially have been an accident with an update somewhere along the way and never needed to be looked at until now. If @TheSweaterCinderace is willing to pinky swear they won't scout any miscreants in the future and only scout good ole law abiding portal users from here on out, I'm fine with scouting them again, personally. We all make mistakes.


I pinky, SOLEMN swear on my life not to scout anyone who has stolen, shitty, or low quality music. You have my word.


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Response to Audio Appeal Thread 2024-01-18 08:18:47

At 1/18/24 02:10 AM, Exedor wrote:
At 1/18/24 01:10 AM, ADR3-N wrote:
At 1/18/24 12:56 AM, TheSweaterCinderace wrote:Have the admins done anything yet? I’m not trying to sound impatient by the way

The last action on your account was to revoke your scouting privileges, but it looks like that also removes your scouted status, as mentioned. This may be an oversight, as usually we don't have an issue of an otherwise rule-abiding user having poor choices in scouting others. Oversights like these can take a while to fix.

I have the ability to either scout you or reset your status -- which does essentially the same thing in this situation, but I would refer to @TomFulp or @Exedor before doing so, as they were the last to address your case.

Scouting privileges were revoked due to a moderate percentage of his scouts being pruned. Use better judgement, I guess...? It doesn't look like this user was de-scouted, tho. I see a system ban a while back. @TomFulp will have to put an eye upon it.


We're actually in the process of fixing this today, at the moment if someone has their scouting ability revoked, it treats them as being de-scouted, which isn't how it is intended to work.

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Wyshz
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Response to Audio Appeal Thread 2024-01-18 16:56:22

At 1/18/24 02:30 AM, ADR3-N wrote:
At 1/18/24 02:10 AM, Exedor wrote:
At 1/18/24 01:10 AM, ADR3-N wrote:
At 1/18/24 12:56 AM, TheSweaterCinderace wrote:Have the admins done anything yet? I’m not trying to sound impatient by the way

The last action on your account was to revoke your scouting privileges, but it looks like that also removes your scouted status, as mentioned. This may be an oversight, as usually we don't have an issue of an otherwise rule-abiding user having poor choices in scouting others. Oversights like these can take a while to fix.

I have the ability to either scout you or reset your status -- which does essentially the same thing in this situation, but I would refer to @TomFulp or @Exedor before doing so, as they were the last to address your case.

Scouting privileges were revoked due to a moderate percentage of his scouts being pruned. Use better judgement, I guess...? It doesn't look like this user was de-scouted, tho. I see a system ban a while back. @TomFulp will have to put an eye upon it.

He shows as unscouted on my end. I can't ever remember a case like this, where pruning revoked scouting. Could potentially have been an accident with an update somewhere along the way and never needed to be looked at until now. If @TheSweaterCinderace is willing to pinky swear they won't scout any miscreants in the future and only scout good ole law abiding portal users from here on out, I'm fine with scouting them again, personally. We all make mistakes.


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MoonShine1231231231
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Response to Audio Appeal Thread 2024-01-19 10:33:47

is it ok to do non copyright sonds and publish it??

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Pingu
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Response to Audio Appeal Thread 2024-01-19 15:46:28

At 1/19/24 10:33 AM, MoonShine1231231231 wrote:is it ok to do non copyright sonds and publish it??


No.

You may not upload audio that you did not create and have full rights to.

Audio / Forum / Games & Movies Moderator. Flag stolen content, don't be a dingus.

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M64MAINE
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Response to Audio Appeal Thread 2024-01-23 13:17:44 (edited 2024-01-23 13:23:48)

I don’t know if this thread will work but this is my last ditch effort to try and get my account off hold. I made an audio a little while ago and it was said to have been copyright when I looked at the song I “copyrighted” it wasn’t even similar. I wanted to start making music for my levels and I thought I was going to just let this other audio go and make a new one but I cannot do that apparently. I made the song myself with an app called BandLab so it literally can’t be copyrighted since I’m literally the owner and creator of the audio. I would appreciate it if my account were to be taken off hold.

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Response to Audio Appeal Thread 2024-01-23 20:28:52

At 1/23/24 01:17 PM, M64MAINE wrote:I made an audio a little while ago [...] with an app called BandLab


So what got you was the stock loops within BandLab, and is the reason that app is specifically listed in the audio guidelines as not being allowed to upload here. I'll swap the ban to one for loops instead of the permanent default one.

Audio / Forum / Games & Movies Moderator. Flag stolen content, don't be a dingus.

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DrAnomalyEnjoyer
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Response to Audio Appeal Thread 2024-01-24 10:43:55

I had posted Pillar of Anomalies by Brandon Mckagan, i thought it was normal to post it but then i got the copyright message. I have understood that copyright is on here now, but i cant edit or delete the song. What do i do? Im new to newgrounds mostly.

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Response to Audio Appeal Thread 2024-01-24 14:05:09

At 1/24/24 10:43 AM, DrAnomalyEnjoyer wrote:I had posted Pillar of Anomalies by Brandon Mckagan, i thought it was normal to post it but then i got the copyright message. I have understood that copyright is on here now, but i cant edit or delete the song. What do i do? Im new to newgrounds mostly.


Well first you should read the rules before you post. We get this all the time despite having a giant disclaimer not to upload audio you didn't make, or which is copyrighted. Because of users doing exactly what you describe, people who create their own music end up posting in this same thread, because their content is matched to their own music on YouTube or Spotify.


What do you do? Nothing. Come back when you make your own music, following all the audio portal rules, and you can be reinstated.


If you want your favorite music on Newgrounds, talk to the creator. Don't just steal it.

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Response to Audio Appeal Thread 2024-01-24 16:59:14

At 1/19/24 03:46 PM, Pingu wrote:
At 1/19/24 10:33 AM, MoonShine1231231231 wrote:is it ok to do non copyright sonds and publish it??

No.
You may not upload audio that you did not create and have full rights to.


oh

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Gladvaldd
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Response to Audio Appeal Thread 2024-01-26 07:42:46 (edited 2024-01-26 07:54:21)

https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/copyright/appeal/view/93676 I got my account flagged and got hold, because I wrote a name of the track named "Da Boss Battle", which was made by me.

links:

https://youtu.be/HIt0Ig7aExQ?si=F5IewLf_gtfCy6ck

https://open.spotify.com/track/0UTNiAcmhAzOpdWnoWn7kW

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M64MAINE
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Response to Audio Appeal Thread 2024-01-26 22:53:08

Thank you very much 🙏

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