Played a full game (beating it in 9 days), experienced frequent and severe slowdown throughout.
Ruffle Testing / Flash Preservation Crew
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None of the Robot Wants Series works on Ruffle
So much so that I actually had to play them on a XP Virtual Machine with Flash installed (Doesn't help that somehow actually runs some Flash games better than Ruffle does)
Response to Ruffle Testing / Flash Preservation Crew 2024-02-27 01:37:51 (edited 2024-02-27 01:42:11)
maybe some other people can help expand this list with me
I looking to create a de-code method for people in the future OR for you, the random person xx years from now that is trying to figure out what program a flash animation was created in so that you can de-code the program/animation and make it work again
this may require legacy programs such as:
ruffle, flash player swf to html, adobe flash player, adobe flash cs4 or cs3, adobe flash player 11, adobe flash player 32,, newgrounds player, VLC player
when you download a flash animation and then convert it to a .txt file then you have access to its encoding regardless of:
what program that it was created in
what the file extension was supposed to be or
how the creator did not create/import/export/name the file correctly
when you download the animation file, and convert it to a .txt file this is my current de-code list
(the first few lines if not the first few letters will likely show off one of these sets of letters)
CWS was created in an adobe flash studio program (apple)
FWS was created in adobe flash studio 3 or 4 (pc)
ÐÏࡱá was created in Adobe Flash / Macromedia Flash (pc)
(need to confirm) when it lists the name of the movie first thing then it was created in swift or swish (apple)
on that note, I am using a PC, so as far as I can see I cannot revive this Flash animation as it was created on an Apple animation program that was discontinued in 2016
i can tell that there is stuff/data there, its just broken currently because the author likely saved the file in their file explorer and then manually changed the extension
Fear Less! experiences text issues, making text harder to read:
NG Player, for comparison:
Response to Ruffle Testing / Flash Preservation Crew 2024-02-28 17:43:53 (edited 2024-02-28 17:51:40)
Played about a fifth of the way through.
Experienced what felt like an unusually long preloader, and experienced constant slowdown during gameplay.
Given the heavy use of physics objects, this seems like a good performance benchmark for Ruffle.
Played for a few minutes in singleplayer, experienced no issues.
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Played a few stages, experienced no issues.
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At 2/28/24 05:43 PM, BlueMonday1984 wrote:https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/456238
Played about a fifth of the way through.
Experienced what felt like an unusually long preloader, and experienced constant slowdown during gameplay.
Given the heavy use of physics objects, this seems like a good performance benchmark for Ruffle.
Switching the other two over, will have to keep tabs on Boombot!
Response to Ruffle Testing / Flash Preservation Crew 2024-02-28 18:17:08 (edited 2024-02-28 18:26:52)
Played until the brutally hard Act 9, experienced no issues.
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Played and finished the first three puzzles, and tried the fourth, experienced no issues.
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Played for quite a while - only issue I could find was text getting clipped:
Thiis was a pretty minor issue in my eyes, so [enable ruffle]
Ran through a couple of matakukos' oldest games for testing today.
Played a single game, found no issues.
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Played a single game on Arena 1, found no issues.
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Quickly played through Level 1 a couple times, found no issues.
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Response to Ruffle Testing / Flash Preservation Crew 2024-03-02 17:08:15 (edited 2024-03-02 17:14:17)
Played through the first level.
Experienced frequent slowdown, and noticed an issue with the textbox showing what your last eaten object was:
Played a single game (up to level 6), experienced no issues.
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Ended up going through a bunch of Miniclip's earliest submissions, most of which had no issues:
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Game does not load, either on NG Player or Ruffle.
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Player's score disappears after finishing Level 1.
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Text is a different font between Ruffle and NG Player - doesn't seem like a major issue to me.
Sidenote: I wish there was an easier way to switch between using NG Player and Ruffle than editing the submission URL.
Response to Ruffle Testing / Flash Preservation Crew 2024-03-02 18:49:03 (edited 2024-03-02 19:00:10)
Ended up playing through a few more Miniclip games afterwards, partially for fun:
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Game fails to load in NG Player and Ruffle, freezing on a white screen
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Game fails to load, on both NG Player and Ruffle
EDIT:
Game is utterly broken in Ruffle - not only is it a slideshow, but walls don't work properly.
A wall does occasionally pop into view, but it spontaneously despawns shortly afterward.
Definitely keep an eye on this one.
Ended up finding out ArcadeTown had an account and ran through all three games on it.
Eliminating blox doesn't cause a score popup, and eliminating three blox plays the wrong SFX.
Played up to Mission 3, found no issues.
[enable ruffle]
Played up to Level 6, found no issues.
[enable ruffle]
Response to Ruffle Testing / Flash Preservation Crew 2024-03-03 05:40:34 (edited 2024-03-03 05:41:00)
Ran through most of Coolio-Niato's games catalog today:
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SFX from the tiles is cut short in both NG Player and ruffle.
[enable ruffle] since this appears to be working correctly.
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At 3/3/24 05:40 AM, BlueMonday1984 wrote:Ran through most of Coolio-Niato's games catalog today:
Ruffled!
At 3/2/24 06:11 PM, BlueMonday1984 wrote:Sidenote: I wish there was an easier way to switch between using NG Player and Ruffle than editing the submission URL.
In this case, all of these appear to have already had Ruffle enabled. On your account page, do you have it set to use Ruffle when possible?
At 3/3/24 09:54 AM, TomFulp wrote:At 3/2/24 06:11 PM, BlueMonday1984 wrote:Sidenote: I wish there was an easier way to switch between using NG Player and Ruffle than editing the submission URL.
In this case, all of these appear to have already had Ruffle enabled. On your account page, do you have it set to use Ruffle when possible?
I didn't - probably disabled it some time ago and forgot about it.
Thanks for pointing it out!
Response to Ruffle Testing / Flash Preservation Crew 2024-03-04 17:35:08 (edited 2024-03-04 17:42:55)
Played for a single launch, stopped due to serious slowdown.
NG Player has virtually no slowdown by comparison.
[disable ruffle]
Played a single game in Ruffle and NG Player, found no differences.
[enable ruffle]
Played a single game in NG Player and Ruffle, found no differences.
[enable ruffle]
Response to Ruffle Testing / Flash Preservation Crew 2024-03-08 11:11:10 (edited 2024-03-08 11:17:28)
Played through the full game, experienced no issues.
[enable ruffle]
Played a few levels.
Typed in letters do not appear on screen, and a word's properties cannot be altered. This makes level 4 unfinishable.
At 3/10/24 12:08 PM, goldenstone41 wrote:https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/553791
i played this some months ago in newgrounds player because its impossible to play it with ruffle since the game crashes. i hope you can fix this Tom
I'll turn off Ruffle for this one.
Game crashes upon clicking a link to go to the game's walkthrough, making the medal "Exasperated" unearnable in Ruffle.
I've copy-pasted the debug info, in case it helps:
# Error Info Error name: Error Error message: panicked at /rustc/07dca489ac2d933c78d3c5158e3f43beefeb02ce/library/std/src/sys/wasm/../unsupported/locks/mutex.rs:20:9: assertion `left == right` failed: cannot recursively acquire mutex left: true right: false Error stack: ``` 69/J/n.wbg.__wbg_new_28c511d9baebfa89@https://uploads.ungrounded.net/ruffle_wrapper/lib/core.ruffle.951b6dbcf877cc86896c.js:1:73906 js_sys::Error::new::ha368c9ce23eebad4@:wasm-function[13908]:0xb1523f core::ops::function::FnOnce::call_once{{vtable.shim}}::h9c4751e459e0dc59@:wasm-function[11514]:0xabfeef std::panicking::rust_panic_with_hook::h1e6ac5d404b8e31b@:wasm-function[7071]:0x9863f5 core::panicking::panic_fmt::h87755523850ece9e@:wasm-function[11224]:0xab9849 core::panicking::assert_failed_inner::h161125ff96c9e54a@:wasm-function[4922]:0x878cba core::panicking::assert_failed::hea0099895d8107cd@:wasm-function[11267]:0xabad4d ruffle_core::loader::Loader::load_vars_loader::{{closure}}::h96e62824a7afe898@:wasm-function[2950]:0x6eabb4 <ruffle_web::navigator::WebNavigatorBackend as ruffle_core::backend::navigator::NavigatorBackend>::spawn_future::{{closure}}::h5b2dcfc9e99d5884@:wasm-function[1445]:0x4688b8 wasm_bindgen_futures::queue::Queue::new::{{closure}}::h1d221e0e2fafc54e@:wasm-function[4082]:0x7f7eef <dyn core::ops::function::FnMut<(A,)>+Output = R as wasm_bindgen::closure::WasmClosure>::describe::invoke::h388e4fb64139afb5@:wasm-function[12525]:0xade20c closure8614 externref shim@:wasm-function[12837]:0xae9ed0 E@https://uploads.ungrounded.net/ruffle_wrapper/lib/core.ruffle.951b6dbcf877cc86896c.js:1:3555 c@https://uploads.ungrounded.net/ruffle_wrapper/lib/core.ruffle.951b6dbcf877cc86896c.js:1:2764 69/J/n.wbg.__wbg_open_cc82b8aaf0c296c1/<@https://uploads.ungrounded.net/ruffle_wrapper/lib/core.ruffle.951b6dbcf877cc86896c.js:1:41693 k@https://uploads.ungrounded.net/ruffle_wrapper/lib/core.ruffle.951b6dbcf877cc86896c.js:1:3708 69/J/n.wbg.__wbg_open_cc82b8aaf0c296c1@https://uploads.ungrounded.net/ruffle_wrapper/lib/core.ruffle.951b6dbcf877cc86896c.js:1:41660 <ruffle_web::navigator::WebNavigatorBackend as ruffle_core::backend::navigator::NavigatorBackend>::navigate_to_url::h8bb0c6808aeb403d@:wasm-function[829]:0x19b07a ruffle_core::avm1::activation::Activation::do_action::h559fb91770eb7969@:wasm-function[1306]:0x405751 ruffle_core::avm1::function::Executable::exec::hdc8cee346ec8b60b@:wasm-function[865]:0x1e0fe8 <ruffle_core::avm1::object::Object as ruffle_core::avm1::object::TObject>::call_method::h9152e876cfb2cbd4@:wasm-function[7589]:0x9aa5b3 ruffle_core::avm1::activation::Activation::do_action::h559fb91770eb7969@:wasm-function[1306]:0x4004e2 ruffle_core::avm1::function::Executable::exec::hdc8cee346ec8b60b@:wasm-function[865]:0x1e0fe8 <ruffle_core::avm1::object::Object as ruffle_core::avm1::object::TObject>::call_method::h9152e876cfb2cbd4@:wasm-function[7589]:0x9aa5b3 ruffle_core::avm1::activation::Activation::do_action::h559fb91770eb7969@:wasm-function[1306]:0x4004e2 ruffle_core::avm1::function::Executable::exec::hdc8cee346ec8b60b@:wasm-function[865]:0x1e0fe8 <ruffle_core::avm1::object::Object as ruffle_core::avm1::object::TObject>::call_method::h9152e876cfb2cbd4@:wasm-function[7589]:0x9a9ed6 ruffle_core::avm1::runtime::Avm1::run_stack_frame_for_method::h54736ea480d31dd7@:wasm-function[2355]:0x62c375 ruffle_core::player::Player::run_actions::h2d5b2442b54412ba@:wasm-function[1116]:0x35f8d6 ruffle_core::player::Player::update_mouse_state::hc0f7ef17c9124940@:wasm-function[827]:0x198d10 ruffle_core::player::Player::handle_event::h754c73e6e3f18b96@:wasm-function[781]:0x11eee2 ruffle_web::Ruffle::with_instance::ha5bca576b6fd7af4@:wasm-function[1209]:0x3b6349 ruffle_web::Ruffle::new_internal::{{closure}}::{{closure}}::{{closure}}::h1dd4131e1b63ab15@:wasm-function[13432]:0xb0433e wasm_bindgen::convert::closures::invoke1_mut::h2bae26984665f0d7@:wasm-function[12471]:0xaddb55 closure444 externref shim@:wasm-function[12834]:0xae9e91 v@https://uploads.ungrounded.net/ruffle_wrapper/lib/core.ruffle.951b6dbcf877cc86896c.js:1:2924 c@https://uploads.ungrounded.net/ruffle_wrapper/lib/core.ruffle.951b6dbcf877cc86896c.js:1:2764 ``` # Player Info Allows script access: false Renderer: wgpu Adapter Backend: Gl Adapter Name: "ANGLE (Intel, Intel(R) HD Graphics Direct3D11 vs_5_0 ps_5_0), or similar" Adapter Device Type: IntegratedGpu Adapter Driver Name: "" Adapter Driver Info: "" Enabled features: Features(FLOAT32_FILTERABLE | TEXTURE_COMPRESSION_BC | TEXTURE_ADAPTER_SPECIFIC_FORMAT_FEATURES | SHADER_UNUSED_VERTEX_OUTPUT) Available features: Features(PUSH_CONSTANTS | CLEAR_TEXTURE | MULTIVIEW) Current limits: Limits { max_texture_dimension_1d: 16384, max_texture_dimension_2d: 16384, max_texture_dimension_3d: 2048, max_texture_array_layers: 256, max_bind_groups: 4, max_bindings_per_bind_group: 1000, max_dynamic_uniform_buffers_per_pipeline_layout: 8, max_dynamic_storage_buffers_per_pipeline_layout: 0, max_sampled_textures_per_shader_stage: 16, max_samplers_per_shader_stage: 16, max_storage_buffers_per_shader_stage: 0, max_storage_textures_per_shader_stage: 0, max_uniform_buffers_per_shader_stage: 11, max_uniform_buffer_binding_size: 65536, max_storage_buffer_binding_size: 0, max_vertex_buffers: 8, max_buffer_size: 268435456, max_vertex_attributes: 16, max_vertex_buffer_array_stride: 255, min_uniform_buffer_offset_alignment: 256, min_storage_buffer_offset_alignment: 256, max_inter_stage_shader_components: 120, max_compute_workgroup_storage_size: 0, max_compute_invocations_per_workgroup: 0, max_compute_workgroup_size_x: 0, max_compute_workgroup_size_y: 0, max_compute_workgroup_size_z: 0, max_compute_workgroups_per_dimension: 0, max_push_constant_size: 0, max_non_sampler_bindings: 1000000 } Surface quality: high Surface samples: 4 Surface size: (640, 450, 1) # 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Browser Info User Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:123.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/123.0 Platform: Win32 Has touch support: false # Ruffle Info Version: 0.1.0 Name: nightly 2024-03-10 Channel: nightly Built: 2024-03-10T00:05:34.457Z Commit: 2065661874083687135807b622d5972972684967 Is extension: false # Metadata width: 640 height: 450 frameRate: 35 numFrames: 19 swfVersion: 9 backgroundColor: #999999 isActionScript3: false uncompressedLength: 12314677
At 3/10/24 06:50 PM, BlueMonday1984 wrote:https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/484931
Game crashes upon clicking a link to go to the game's walkthrough, making the medal "Exasperated" unearnable in Ruffle.
I've copy-pasted the debug info, in case it helps:
have you tried running the game in chrome?
At 3/10/24 06:57 PM, tox wrote:At 3/10/24 06:50 PM, BlueMonday1984 wrote:https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/484931
Game crashes upon clicking a link to go to the game's walkthrough, making the medal "Exasperated" unearnable in Ruffle.
I've copy-pasted the debug info, in case it helps:
have you tried running the game in chrome?
I checked, and it works on Chrome. Seems the issue's limited to Firefox.
Played until the second screen.
Ended up unable to advance - any attempts to remove blocks by right-clicking open the menu instead.
Title screen displays corrupted text.
Ruffle:
NG Player:
Attempted to play, got a black screen
Ruffle triggers secureSWF anti-piracy upon attempting to play game, resulting in the game being unplayable
Played a single game - game froze after clicking "More Games" on the endscreen (I was using an autoclicker)
A lack of right-click menu support makes the medal "Cheater!" unearnable in Ruffle - the option which grants it (titled "You cheater!") does not appear.
Ruffle:
NG Player:
Response to Ruffle Testing / Flash Preservation Crew 2024-03-17 17:26:40 (edited 2024-03-17 17:28:16)
AlphaZekko 5 runs fine throughout. However, the puzzle makes this needlessly harder because it doesn't snap into position like it does on newgrounds launcher. turn off ruffle until its fixed.
Also, god bless InkuShel29 for finding the first two episodes and archiving them onto YouTube. There's also a link to the flash.
Mess with me and I'll rip your face off.
