Where exactly do we draw the line with garbage like this?

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  how to time leaper (time reaper) XD

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At 1/8/17 07:07 PM, FinaLee wrote: Where exactly do we draw the line with garbage like this?

That one is ear rape, which goes against the rules.

Need to get back into the swing of this.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZ5qQLA2NS0

- Damn I actually like this track. Nice when you an find something cool wading through garbage.

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^ (Metallica)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUAdgt5Glk0

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^ both from undertale

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^ Ripped from 'TheBrianMaps' youtube channel. Cannot be arsed narrowing it down more than that because it's all russian, but this clearly isn't an original creation.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNjovSMtvy4

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^ legit remix, but not the original creator. Source is helpfully linked in the description.

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^ No source since it's 4:30am and I don't want to wake people by playing it out loud to shazam it, but it's a pretty obvious steal.

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At 1/8/17 11:32 PM, Jackho wrote: ^ No source since it's 4:30am and I don't want to wake people by playing it out loud to shazam it, but it's a pretty obvious steal.

Headphones aren't a thing?

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^ Power glove

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Sorry I've been kinda dead on this forum. I've been wanting to get back into posting a massive amount of audio again. But I've been busy and I'm now sick.

EDIT: Although I'll still check here to see if anything legitimate got posted.

At 1/9/17 08:18 PM, MonsterboyGD wrote: http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/636832
I remember listining to this song long time ago. It was legimate, can you please recover this song if you can

This one appears to have been deleted by the author.

At 1/10/17 10:58 AM, BlueAlpha14 wrote: reports

Handled. Also, what page are you on on unscouted? I think I may just get on daily, run through the new submissions, and then check back about where you are. You've been coming up with a mass of stuff seemingly from nowhere.

Sorry I've been kinda dead on this forum. I've been wanting to get back into posting a massive amount of audio again. But I've been busy and I'm now sick.

Don't burn yourself out. It's more than fine to drop a one off and go. This isn't a 9-5 job. :) I hope you feel better soon. You really have been a big help. Honestly, I didn't even know myself that the theft was as widespread as it was until we were both coming up with massive lists -- only, I would run through, listen, remove, and ban, and you'd be flagging and posting.

EDIT: Although I'll still check here to see if anything legitimate got posted.

Thank you, really, for what you do. Our eyes are not infallible, nor are our ears, so a second or third set always helps.

At 1/10/17 01:19 PM, EDM364 wrote:
Also, what page are you on on unscouted?

115

You've been coming up with a mass of stuff seemingly from nowhere.

What?

Don't burn yourself out. I hope you feel better soon. You really have been a big help.

Thanks :)

Thank you, really, for what you do. Our eyes are not infallible... so a second or third set always helps.

No problem. I'm always glad to help.

At 1/10/17 02:18 PM, BlueAlpha14 wrote: 115

I'll dive in there then. If you're digging through there, drop me a page number when you finish. I lose my place a lot!

What?

I mean, you've been doing a great job finding stuff that most of us would not recognize, being as you're somewhat more of an audiophile than I am.

In other news, I'm making a masterpost for resources regarding the AP, scouting, what to look for in terms of flagging stolen audio, etc. If you have written or have seen some good resources, PM me a link and I'll get to looking over it. If it's informative and accurate, it'll be added to the master post.

At 1/10/17 07:13 PM, EDM364 wrote:
I'll dive in there then. If you're digging through there, drop me a page number when you finish. I lose my place a lot!

I'll probably look through there a little bit if I have nothing else I could be doing, I'm sure I won't accidentally report something to here because if you ban it, it will probably be gone before I post it here.

I mean, you've been doing a great job finding stuff that most of us would not recognize, being as you're somewhat more of an audiophile than I am.

I was confused when you said "out of nowhere" lol.

In other news, I'm making a masterpost for resources regarding the AP, scouting, what to look for in terms of flagging stolen audio, etc. If you have written or have seen some good resources, PM me a link and I'll get to looking over it. If it's informative and accurate, it'll be added to the master post.

Have you added JK-FlipFlop's (or cank, currently) method of scouting? I've used it a couple times, and it's worked to where I can trust scouting someone.

I do have a couple methods for what to look for as far as stolen audio, though. I'll pm them to you, so I'm not taking up space on this thread.

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^Panda Eyes and Teminite

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^The nostalgia hurts

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^Martin Garrix

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Yeah this one's kinda obscure so..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UF5KZxFZD9c

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^Skrillex

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^DEAF KEV

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At 1/10/17 07:34 PM, cank wrote: Are these people PMing you to bring back their stuff? This is the second time I've seen you request a song to be restored. If they really made it, I'm sure it would have been straightened out then.

Well, he has a track record of reporting legitimate submissions.

At 1/10/17 07:23 PM, BlueAlpha14 wrote: Have you added JK-FlipFlop's (or cank, currently) method of scouting? I've used it a couple times, and it's worked to where I can trust scouting someone.

@NekoMika and I are reviewing that right now to make sure it's just right before listing it. I'm checking your mail out now. The power went out earlier -- two transformers exploded, and a line was down in my yard. Trees fell on the line. Meth heads blew up the other two, I think.

At 1/10/17 10:34 PM, EDM364 wrote:
@NekoMika and I are reviewing that right now to make sure it's just right before listing it.

I was talking about his previous one, not the one he just posted.

-- two transformers exploded,

wait wat

Meth heads blew up the other two, I think.

Drug dealers smh

At 1/10/17 10:04 PM, MonsterboyGD wrote: http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/721915
Chaoz fantasy, stealing songs that were made 10 years ago, i mean come on

Bear in mind not everyone knew of that song from Newgrounds. If people actually knew what songs were on Newgrounds we wouldn't have so many Waterflame and TheFatRat uploads (excluding the ones people upload from those artists if they never posted it to NG).

At 1/11/17 11:20 AM, cank wrote: @BlueAlpha14 @Phronemophobia name that tune?

UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHh 8-bit adventures sounds super familiar but I don't know from where. I hate when that happens .-.

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^No idea who this artist is, but they did steal another song that I know of so I can't help but think this is stolen as well.

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^TheLivingTombstone, you'll later see this person posted that song again.

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^You can hear the original song in the background, but even still these how to's are fricking annoying.

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^DEAF KEV

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^Used to listen to this song a lot, until I grew out of complextro.

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^Anyone can debate this if they want to, but I'm too lazy to listen to all of Monstercat's Trap releases to confirm if this is stolen. It sounds stolen, but I'll leave the final decision up to the mods.

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^Self-explanatory

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^Going to have to get this on my playlist from the ACTUAL artist, pretty dope song.

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^Ayyyyy I told you so.

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^Alan Walker

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^Evolution of Music. Used to be my favorite when I first got into EDM.

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^This guy's username is proof enough this was stolen

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^You know, I used to actually like this song...

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^Ayy what do you know, Monster Dance Off. Of course.

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^Spag Heddy - Love on First Sine

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At 9/24/14 07:56 AM, B16 wrote: In this thread, report any Audio Portal submissions which break the rules detailed in the Audio Portal Guidelines.

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  TheoryOfSomething 10

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At 1/11/17 08:31 PM, ElectroSparx wrote:

At 9/24/14 07:56 AM, B16 wrote: In this thread, report any Audio Portal submissions which break the rules detailed in the Audio Portal Guidelines.

http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/715372

This appears to be spam but not ear-breaking. Their other submissions are the same. @Exedor, your opinion?

At 1/11/17 09:37 PM, EDM364 wrote:

At 1/11/17 08:31 PM, ElectroSparx wrote:

At 9/24/14 07:56 AM, B16 wrote: In this thread, report any Audio Portal submissions which break the rules detailed in the Audio Portal Guidelines.

http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/715372

This appears to be spam but not ear-breaking. Their other submissions are the same. @Exedor, your opinion?

I know in the end it's a moderators opinion that counts, but Lexa did disregard a few "vocal" submissions that I posted here, even if they were spam or didn't make any sense.

EDIT: While it is an unnecessary audio, I'm just going by the reports that have been disregarded by them.

At 1/11/17 11:04 PM, MonsterboyGD wrote: Okay why is this deleted in the first place? I remember listening to this and all the instruments were his work. Why delete this one? Its legimate and read the short description

This one sounds like a midi rip, but it's a cover of a copyrighted song. We can't really have those here anymore, which is pretty depressing.

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^Waterflame

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^Do we really need a midi rip?

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^I can confirm this is stolen. I actually have a few of Cruel Reaction's songs in my library.

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^Razihel and VR

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At 1/11/17 11:11 PM, EDM364 wrote:

At 1/11/17 11:04 PM, MonsterboyGD wrote: Okay why is this deleted in the first place? I remember listening to this and all the instruments were his work. Why delete this one? Its legimate and read the short description

This one sounds like a midi rip, but it's a cover of a copyrighted song. We can't really have those here anymore, which is pretty depressing.

@MonsterboyGD (haven't figured out how to respond to two forum posts in one yet) I'm sure the mods also appreciate you finding legitimate stuff to be recovered. Doing community work also means protecting it. Hence why I dispute some stuff that's been posted here.

@EDM364 Isn't there some kind of protection against that? Like, an ex post facto law where you can't be punished if you did the act at a time where it wasn't against the rules? There's so many good remixes on here ;^;

So wait.. if Skrillex is owned by a label, would that mean all these are against the rules? I probably took a huge risk flagging all of them but..

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^This actually isn't a remix though, it's just that GD remix 2 or whatever lol

At 1/12/17 12:40 AM, BlueAlpha14 wrote: @EDM364 Isn't there some kind of protection against that? Like, an ex post facto law where you can't be punished if you did the act at a time where it wasn't against the rules? There's so many good remixes on here ;^;

This I don't know. I do know that submissions containing copyrighted content are now having to be taken down due to copyright law and that @TomFulp has lamented on covers and remixes for ages. In fact, not being able to do remixes and remakes specifically of copyrighted works has kept me from submitting a lot of pieces I've made as a learning exercise.

I'm not sure whether we should hunt down old covers and remixes much the same way we do abusive content such as thefts and ear-rape or not. Some of these submissions have been downloaded over 30k times, etc. and enjoyed by no small shortage of people, but we are dearly trying to avoid copyright fuss. I'll have to get an wiser opinion than my own for sure. I did however remove one of those submissions that had a copyrighted sample in it. We're not allowed to have even a "millesecond" of copyrighted content in our submissions without explicit and legal permission.

At 1/12/17 10:35 AM, NekoMika wrote: For uber old or even new remixes and covers, we can leave them be unless it's using more than 10% of the original source for the remixing and such. :P If they have the documentation to show they do have permission, then leave the song be.

I probably just screwed up flagging all those Skrillex remixes, huh?

At 1/12/17 10:52 AM, NekoMika wrote:
Nah, I have to check each remix flagged anyways, you did not do anything wrong. For giant label artists, we may have to remove those actually. :x

I actually downloaded some of them, in case they really have to get removed. But I'll keep in mind what you said about the remix thing, so maybe I'll know which remixes can stay and which ones can't.

@cank @BlueAlpha14

I went and had a small chat with Tom about the issue and from what I understand, basically, if you have a question about a remix, bring it up here; like @NekoMika said, if it's using more than 10% of the source material, it probably has to go. Additionally, any big name radio artists like Taylor Swift and Selena Gomez also need to go -- you can always check something like the big bad list of copyright bullies (Taylor Swift sued a couple for using her song at a wedding without paying royalties). If they don't have any of the source material at all, that's a bigger question. So I would say, no witch hunt based off of his responses, excepting the big name labels' songs. Age and popularity doesn't appear to have a factor, much like our old classics which have died as a result of copyright, and that's sad, but we really are better off not giving these labels any representation on our site. The more they have, the more power they have to do evil.

In short, anything with copyrighted acapellas and samples has to go. Big name artists like Taylor Swift, Selena, or any other artist whose label hunts down copyright, stuff owned by the big 3, has to go. Videogame remixes can stay, as long as they aren't a talentless midi rip or something like a "how to" with the audio playing in the background.

At 1/12/17 06:09 PM, EDM364 wrote: Remixing rules

Alright, I understand. I'll keep that in mind when listening to remixes. I deeply apologize for posting the Skrillex remixes that were legit enough to stay.