Yeah, I'm fairly certain I reported this user already, but they're still here uploading AI tracks. They already uploaded three AI tracks at 192kbps, then deleted them when I called them out on it (again, a major mistake on my part).

They were here (I downloaded them prior if anyone wants to give them a listen):

Now, they've changed the bitrate to 256kbps. Doesn't matter though, the bitrate is still trash when analyzed by a spectrogram. All of them never pass the 19kHz threshold, meaning that the original bitrate almost certainly didn't pass 192kbps, the max output of Suno. It's so incredibly obvious to anyone who knows what to listen for, but hey, now there's concrete evidence too.

Spectrograms here.

All their new tracks:

Might do a big AI search later, but here's one for now:

Looked around a bit, might do more later.

Assorted AI Garbage: 

SOFTERSANE20:

Just a general run of the mill AI account. 

MilkyYwWay:

Whole account of Udio songs, strangely enough, Udio v1. It says so in the file metadata. 

Bark bark bark bark! (or similar)

Cosmoec:

This person appears to be uploading AI tracks, albeit with occasional edits. The whole account. All their music has a bitrate of 192kbps (usually indicative of Suno) or lower. Even the 22min track has the same low bitrate. Just listen to them. Also actual artists don't usually call DAW's, "music makers". 

p2025:

These might be songs fed through an AI. The first one is labeled as such. 

Little suspicious of these:

Stolen:

Spam?

I don’t even know where to begin with this one. This has literally qualifies for every flag type except “music”. Uploaded twice. 

Just checked Moonlchan, and it appears you got all of the AI tracks. It should be noted though that a lot of their old songs (predating Suno) are 192kbps for some reason. A couple of their remixes contain decent chunks of the original song, but it's debatable if it's fair use. They're apparently not going to upload on Newgrounds anymore, so I don't think there will be any further issues.

On the one hand, its kind of a shame he's jumping ship, on the other hand its one less user flooding the Audio Portal with AI slop.

I'd say its a net positive overall - keeping the Audio Portal AI-free is the only way genuine talent can shine.

I'm always sad to see people go down this path, because there are two types of people who upload AI junk.

There's people who don't make music and never will, and then there's people who DO make music, but they're not great at it, so they think they have no better option.

Since the instant result of AI is 10x better and faster for a n00b than legit beatmaking, it further convinces them that passing AI beats off as their own work is the way to go. Then when they get caught, they get mad and give up. It's the same problem with stock-loop spammers and people stealing templates, just more complex.

On a more positive note, I've seen at least one person this week stop submitting stolen/AI junk and start making their own music, so with the right encouragement, there is hope!

AI again!!

Found a few more. 

Assorted AI Garbage:

Abydoble:

Near certain these are all Suno generations. Wile the first and second songs don’t have a bitrate of 192kbps, “Neon Vibe” does. They all sound like AI anyway, especially “null.mp3”. 

hairygorilla737:

Really suspicious of this user. Really wants to get on the Geometry Dash Whitelist, horrible bitrate when analyzed in a spectrogram, and what looks like AI-generated album art. 

Doromik:

Sounds kind of AI generated. Oddly enough, the Sonic Blaster remix also has a bitrate of 192kbps. 

Superstepis:

Run of the mill Suno uploader. 

ImOMR:

Pretty sure it’s all Suno (or Udio) tracks. All the metadata has been changed, but in a spectrogram, nothing ever passes the 19kHz threshold, meaning it was never more than 192kbps. Hell, most of them didn’t even reach 16kHz. For an “independent artist” they sure seem to have a pretty bad bitrate and those same crusty high tones that I’ve grown so accustomed to. Shame too, they have an alt account with an older song that appears to be real. Spectrograms here. What do other people think?

Stolen:

Spam again?

Mild Text in the title

Suno AI to be specific, at least for the first song they posted. Can't believe I skipped over this one, it's so obvious.

I'm not sure F words in the title is a major problem, but we'll find out!

@TomFulp @LexRodent, I've never dealt with a case like this. Is there a precedent for removing songs based on profanity in the title (besides racist/supremacist bs)? If garden variety F bombs IS in fact an issue, what's the procedure?

I just change the rating to T or M, changed these to T.

Sonic Blaster Remix is NOT AI!

Thetatronica (This bro scouted):

TheLethalDeal (Scouted too)

Yeah, I know. I just thought it was an interesting coincidence, and maybe a reason to double check and make sure the other songs are definitely AI. I've made a couple mistakes before. Nearly certain the other four songs are AI, so there isn't really anything to "double check" in this case, but again, just thought I'd mention it. Kind of a bummer, the Sonic Blaster Remix they did isn't too bad.

Suno:

Udio:

Loudy AI:

(you used to be able to generate long songs for free)

Soundraw:

(similar song)

(similar song)

Instrumental Version of "Tri Poloski"

Brawl Stars Showdown Mode Song:

And song from 10th season:

Worst version of GD Menu Theme:

Stolen:

Original:

Reupload of Tidal Wave song:

And worst remix on Shiawase VIP:

Creo - Sphere mashups:

Reupload of "Do You Love Me?"

else Suno

He used Image to Music AI Converter

I certainly realize that AI is taking over this site, but it's AI chillin' on the home page again. WHY? This kind of audio has been found repeatedly. Why was I, as a regular user of this site, able to determine it was AI by even listening to it on my phone? Who is in charge of posting new Frontpaged songs? Tell them not to let this happen again!

Many musicians whose music goes unnoticed try to do something better, but they don't get any support, and here we have some Suno AI who is in the public eye BEFORE NOW! This is a site for creativity, which should be creativity, not soulless generation of a complete song in 1-2 minutes through Suno! Since when did this site lose the slogan "Everything, by Everyone"?

@TomFulp I implore you to take some action at least. If you are the one putting new songs on Frontpaged, then I ask you to check the full songwriter account of the song you want to put on your front page. Otherwise, music from real people will simply be diminished on that front page if authors of HUMAN music see this kind of AI crap on the homepage.

Hall of Shame

realnabiel (newgrounds.com)

Also his same AI-shit:

(HAHAHAHAHAHHAH, "Human Music")

He was whitelisted :skull:

he contacted me, it turned out that it was really AI, but he did not know this, if you believe his words, he is in a group that consists of 4 people, including him. he confirmed that all but three of the songs were made through Suno. He claims that the three songs that were not deleted belong to his band. I ask the moderators to check this, otherwise I could just make a mistake due to the fact that many of their songs were generated through Suno

Reupload of "Germania.exe" by Cybernazi:

https://archive.org/details/cybernazi-angrygoy

(I'd recommend keeping an eye on TheSalazarUltra - I've got strong suspicions the guy's a full-blown Nazi.)

Song ripped from Cybernazi, as admitted by submitter:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yv7ykCl7i_I

Imagine stealing a Lemon Demon song on Newgrounds out of all places. 

Also stolen:

And now for a quick round of AI slop! Most of these were published in the last 24 hours or so. There are a lot of them.

I know G2961 already mentioned it, but this AI song was frontpaged!!! There’s so much noise and weird things that happen as notes bleed into each other. “Crusty high notes” is how I usually describe generations like this. Bitrate is horrible too when analyzed in a spectrogram. (Bitrate positively correlates with max frequency, so a low max frequency indicates a low bitrate, even if the metadata says otherwise.) Near certain this was made with Suno AI. 

A bit suspicious:

InsecureApe:

Full account of Suno AI songs, admits to it too. 

I have some things to say about AI and maybe ways to safeguard against it, both for users and Newgrounds as a creative site. I'll post that in a bit.

Dear @tomfulp,

Something needs to be done about the vast amounts of AI music in the audio portal, and the volume that gets uploaded each day.

Note: I meant to send this as a PM months ago, but I might as well just say what needs to be said here instead, and hopefully get input from others while I’m at it.

Over the past few moths, AI has been invading the audio portal. I have reported at least 500 AI generated songs myself, posted both by new accounts and by long established users. And it’s not like any of these AI songs are groundbreaking or excellent; they usually sound like garbage, with awful bitrates, bad mixing, and/or strange artifacts. While I see plenty of songs that aren’t very good on the undiscovered section of the audio portal, they at least have some effort and the friendly glint of creativity in the user’s eye. Songs made by entirely by Suno, Udio, and other AI creation software lack any sort of creativity or effort, and are built on the data scraped from genuine artists. It is the unholy amalgamation of everything by everyone.

But you probably already knew that. That’s not what this message is for. I am instead suggesting a broad solution that could help minimize the addition of more AI garbage being shoveled onto the portal. That solution is education.

The best way to safeguard against AI is education. Seriously, that’s most of the solution. The more people know about AI and what it sounds like, the less likely they are to pass by it and think nothing of it, or worse, scout it or recommend it for a frontpage. The people that frontpaged AI songs clearly don’t know how to detect it. Also, I've see large Newgrounds creators comment on, talking about how “amazing this random GD player’s songs are for a first submission”. Generative AI is a new technology and many people don’t realize how convincing it’s become, small users, large creators, and moderators alike.

Well, how do we educate people? We need some sort of PSA (public service announcement) made by (or with) people who know how to discover and identify AI generated music, such as people in this thread. This PSA at the very least should be a dedicated announcement to everyone, but it could also be presented in the form of a movie or a game (or a couple of these options together). The PSA would mostly be for telling people to remember that AI is rampant and to be on the lookout for it, but also to tell people how to recognize it. At one point, I couldn’t tell the difference, but with time and experience I learned. The people who need to know this information the most are moderators and scouted users, as they can have the most impact. However, everyone should be at least somewhat knowledgeable on AI, which is why I think an announcement to everyone is the best idea.

Other than the PSA, there’s a couple other ideas I’ll mention. It might be helpful to make it more obvious in the submission page that AI music is not allowed, as you currently have to scroll down to see it. Maybe a required checkbox would help, saying something along the lines of, “I did not use an AI tool (such as Suno or Udio) to generate this submission, and understand the potential consequences if I do.” It would at least filter out a couple users who “didn’t know” and potentially scare off some of the run-of-the-mill GD AI uploaders.

ADR3-N suggested that a task force be set up for this issue, and I think it’s an excellent idea. Perhaps this task force could help create a PSA, generally educate people, and/or write guides on how to detect AI music. That’s what my general idea of it is. @ADR3-N, if you had a different idea for a task force, or if what I’m suggesting isn’t really what you were thinking of, I would love to hear it.

It could also help to have some bigger faces helping the issue, similar to how James Lee recently took a stab at Adobe, although that might not be necessary if AI is gotten under control on the site and people are educated.

Another idea is developing some sort of system to limit AI tracks being uploaded in the first place, through software. However, I’m not sure how this could be done, as at the moment there is no reliable way for software to determine if music is AI generated, at least not that I’m aware of. Alternatively, some songs could be automatically flagged if they have something like “Udio v1” as one of the contributing artists in the metadata. I understand that software development takes time and money, but I just thought it wise to put the idea out there anyway.

All in all, I am not a musical artist, but I can imagine how it must feel to have your genuine work get pushed aside for some random guys with access to a Suno accounts. It’s not right and something needs to be done.

Thank you for your time, and thank you for listening.

Quest

special attention to this Suno user

AvaxLumino's Audio (newgrounds.com)

And now I'm going to tell you about the fact that Suno has introduced the ability to upload your audio, which can be extended with Suno. That's exactly the case here (his username says it all):

I would also like to review this song separately. Here too is a song made through Suno, but the vocals here are not made by the AI, but really real vocals. But however, I think that there shouldn't be such audio either, the rule about partial use of neural networks in a CRUCIAL song doesn't say that it's allowed, it was about partial use of AI in a CRUCIAL ORIGINAL COMPOSITION, not the other way around.

Suno AI:

(WHAT? This is audio on this website for april 2024! WHY??????????)

(Stupid AI generation with minimal addition of some dubstep basses)

(bro really added own voice tag in AI song)

Groovepad:

(HAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA)

Udio:

I would like to single out udio-user separately:

He just downloaded the FLP from one YouTube guide and rearranged the notes and significantly degraded this track from the guide:

Original:

How to make ARTCORE in 5 minutes | FL Studio 20 Tutorial (+Free FLP) (youtube.com)

Bad cover of NH22 - Isolation:

Bad remix on Pedro-Pedro

Melody stolen from "Dead inside" by Adlin.

Stolen! Original - SXID - Funk of Galáctico (Super Slowed)

Stupid mashup on At The Speed Of Light:

Earrape:

WTF? LOL

AGAING REUPLOAD OF CRIM3S - LOST WITH REVERB AND SLOWED, HAHAHAHAHAHHA!

Speedup Versions of Кишлак - Ржавый:

Spam:

2021 remake of copyright song by Kino, his name "Spokoinaya Noch" (reupload)

Reuploads:

Original

Stereo Madness (L. Mity_MIX) (newgrounds.com)

Fake

Stereobath (newgrounds.com)

I spent almost 6 hours searching (with significant interruptions, lol), I managed to get through the night, I'm very tired, but I want to keep on cleaning the audio portal of this shit!

No big AI hunt today, G2961 found most of the recent ones and I’m tired. 

A few AI songs: 

Really? You named it this of all things? (Udio btw)

(Note: this user has a lot of tracks, and I suspect more of them are Udio AI.)

obexisOficial:

The first song I have reported multiple times and it has not been taken down, and the other two are new. They have posted AI songs and had them taken down before. This is a repeat offender user, and I am sure that they will be back once their next ban expires. 

Also I was so suspicious of Avixel! I was going to ask someone here to check it yesterday. Those AI album covers were a big red flag for me. 

This track was the one that hinted me towards it being AI: 

Also, should I just flag songs that are clearly a kid covering a track popular in GD with their mouth? Genuine question. Part of me feels bad flagging things like that.

Suspicious of this:

I'm glad Tom at least saw I had to say about AI music. I just hope something is done soon.

@AM-ZYNK @G2961 @ElRandomGMD you three need to actually justify your flags and not just leave them blank out of laziness. You're cruising for free points off the reports Questtrek is posting in here, which is interesting when I see a report with the three of you only and zero explaination on what the flag is.