In fact, there are far fewer AI songs, which means that hopefully soon the audio portal will be cleaner than it has been since December 2023.
Suno:
udio:
GarageBand Live Loops:
Misc:
Spam
At 7/9/24 05:38 PM, G2961 wrote:In fact, there are far fewer AI songs, which means that hopefully soon the audio portal will be cleaner than it has been since December 2023.
Nature is healing
he/they - pretty cool guy
possibly stolen?
pretty sure all of these songs are stolen - repeat offenses in my book
Hahahahahaha
Don't know why this was so funny to me.
At 7/10/24 04:26 AM, Questtrek wrote:Hahahahahaha
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1339875
Don't know why this was so funny to me.
HAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! I WANT TO DOWNLOAD IT!!
Hey, everybody! I was so excited when I came to what I did today! I thought we were able to do away with the audio portal, which is completely filled with AI songs. At this point, yes! But there's residue left over from the past few months that is worth searching and deleting, which is what I'm going to do until the last one, until this audio portal is completely filled with creativity and not AI crap!
Special attentions:
I really love going through what was done a few months ago, so much so that I even found an account with 29 Suno AI songs, which, by the way, has scout. Seems worth it now to dig into places I haven't explored.
He managed to cheat our audio portal from April 1, 2024, to July 5, 2024, but then I came along and won't let him do it anymore.
I SWEAR! It's definitely udio, and he's fooling everyone! Of course, he changed everything in the file description, probably to hide the "Udio v1".
Again, Suno AI user. but with 4 songs but has scout!
Suno:
Undiscovered:
Scouted:
(bruh, uploaded in april 2024)
(again, uploaded in april 2024)
(again, uploaded in april 2024)
(again, uploaded in april 2024)
udio:
Hello again, everyone! I found the illegal audio again!
And as usual, special attention:
He uploaded 4 AI songs, he even wrote himself that he used AI but "the lyrics belong to him" but "it doesn't work that way, bro", so "his" songs should be deleted. By the way, he has Supporter status and came to this site in 2008. He also has a scout, so that makes for such a combo here, lol.
This bro is still uploading AI audio, even after removing some AI songs, I recommend blocking him from uploading audio projects to this site.
Suno:
Soundraw:
Misc:
Spam
Stereo Madness and Lost mashup
Stupid mashup with MDK - Geometry Dash
Reupload of stupid mashup with MDK - Geometry Dash
Reupload of GTA 4 Load Screen in low quality
I apologize for not putting it all in one post, as I didn't expect to find anything else myself, lol.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, come on again some pseudo company (the correct term would be Suno Inc.) that uploads AI audio!
Again, Suno songs:
Soundraw:
(I couldn't find the right genre, however it seems like an AI song to me too, as I personally notice that Soundraw structure)
GarageBand Live Loops:
Misc:
Reupload of So Mnoi Vouet Satana
"✻h+3+яд✻7lucjio0t6" speedup
"✻h+3+яд✻7lucjio0t6" speedup again
Just a speedup of Tanger - BIKE
I second what @G9261 said. DragonWriter is uploading AI songs, and it’s not just the vocals. The whole songs are made with AI. In the metadata of the songs, they all have a bitrate around 256kbps, which is fine, but when analyzed in a spectrogram, they all have a cutoff at 19kHz, meaning that they originally had a bitrate of 192kbps (max output of Suno AI), not 256kbps. Not only that, but there’s just so many little artifacts. The drums sound like sand on some of them, and the mixing feels off. "The Land of the Unfree" has those crusty high tones. The “different versions” of the songs sound nothing like each other. I’m fairly certain this was all made with AI, my best guess being Suno AI (but it could also be Udio).
Full spectrogram analysis here:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1dWaS8ow2gCT6i-etuJM8GdQv6RFRtAWS?usp=sharing
Example spectrogram:
The songs in question:
Finally! Another account with Suno songs!
(I think he just put some house drums and some bass in the background.)
Another Suno AI songs:
(btw, this is v3 model)
(and this is v2 model, so there's not a lot of noise in the background)
Misc:
Re-recorded version of Crim3s - Lost Piano Cover with original song in low quality.
Again, reupload of So Mnoy Vouet Satana
Remix on Nas Ne dogonyat by t.a.t.u (original vocal used)
Ultra-stolen version of MDK - Dash and fan-mades
Again, ultra-stolen version of MDK - Dash and fan-mades
AGAIN, ultra-stolen version of MDK - Dash and fan-mades
Bruh, Tidal Wave cover (stolen from this)
Stupid cover on Base After Base
At 7/8/24 09:54 AM, Yatsufusa wrote:At 7/7/24 09:01 PM, G2961 wrote:he also wants to sue me :)
@G2961 As @Questtrek has already pointed out, there is nothing johnnyq1233 could sue for - not in the US and not anywhere else. To take apart the report system for a second: The Newgrounds servers are private property and even if there were neither ToS nor Audio Portal Guidelines, Mr. Fulp could delete uploaded data as he pleased. I can pretty much guarantee you that the tracks in question were reported by multiple users, once word got out. That's comparable to "calling someone" about a situation. Then that someone, be it a authorized member of the moderation staff or Tom Fulp himself made the actual decision to remove. And nobody using AI to create songs for them can complain that they did not see it coming. At the time of me typing, the very first sentence in the Audio Guidelines is "Do not upload AI-generated audio!" That user had to click "Agree" a few times to info boxes letting him know the site rules. There's no excuse there.
To be fair: AI could be used to aid* the creation of audio, but the member of the moderation staff decided that this was not the case for the uploads that were removed.
(* I think AI voices might be okay to use on Newgrounds if you feed it your own voice as a pattern. I'm not an expert on this and I can't remember my source. Do your own research and don't quote me on that! Also: Rules might change.)
But even if johnnyq1233 took a lawyer... Any judge who would take the time to look at this would ask for the actual projected damages and the site's Terms of Service, even if the other side didn't even show up for the first hearing. Because judges don't want to show up in the press as some kinds of dinosaurs who do not even understand the stuff they are supposed to judge for. (We are talking about humans here - not mindless parts in a machine.) But @johnnyq1233 would 100% find a lawyer willing to take the case. Lawyers need to eat and people want to "at least try...". I would not morally judge any lawyer indulging such a client. It will be one consultation meeting, one or two letters, one visit to court (if even that), and of course one invoice in the lower triple digits for a job that doesn't even impact their track record because the matter was dismissed immediately. I find them earning money that way considerably less dubious than defending a client who run over a dog.
I hope that helped to calm everybody's nerves a bit and made the situation as transparent as humanly possible.
While johnnyq1233 sounds absolutely divorced from the real world in those PMs, the account exists since 2008 and at a glance his behavior towards the community in past years looked rather positive. This is 100% speculation on my part, but maybe another person got their hands on that account. Maybe a phone got stolen. Maybe the person who originally created the account and a grand-kid got the PC. Maybe he is on heavy medication at the moment and isn't himself right now. Maybe he's too ashamed to admit he did wrong and got caught and went temporarily insane. We have no way of knowing for sure.
Please(!) do not write reports about "That account might be compromised... Maybe... Idunno..." to Tom Fulp unless you have any new information that resembles actual evidence. Because the only thing Mr. Fulp could say in return would be "Idunno either..."
I admit that I can understand anyone who would find this situation interesting/fascinating/funny, and I am not a moderator, but it would probably be for the best if the topic-migration in the Audio Portal Cleanup wouldn't be taken further than it already has. ;)
Have a great day!
Look, I like music and I like to look at different ways to do certain things.
Me using a digital platform to help me get my words or idea out there isn't wrong.
No more wrong than rappers using loops of other peoples stuff for their song.
The difference being, I'm not using other peoples tracks, I am using AI to help me do some things I can't do in a timely matter.
Finishing a piece is crucial to getting a piece that I want to further work on.
Old Skool!!!
At 7/12/24 11:46 PM, johnnyq1233 wrote:At 7/8/24 09:54 AM, Yatsufusa wrote:At 7/7/24 09:01 PM, G2961 wrote:he also wants to sue me :)
[yadda-yadda-yadda & site rules...]
Have a great day!
Look, I like music and I like to look at different ways to do certain things.
Me using a digital platform to help me get my words or idea out there isn't wrong.
No more wrong than rappers using loops of other peoples stuff for their song.
The difference being, I'm not using other peoples tracks, I am using AI to help me do some things I can't do in a timely matter.
Finishing a piece is crucial to getting a piece that I want to further work on.
I hope that was directed at this thread's audience in general, rather than at me specifically. But...
While I understand some aspects of that kind of work, I don't even understand a fraction of what scouted audio artists know about the process - let alone an Audio Portal moderator. Correct me if I'm wrong, but if I remember that situation correctly that was the topic: Some tracks you uploaded to Newgrounds had been removed by an Audio Portal moderator in accordance with the site rules. And then you directed your anger towards a 16-year old who reported you for it. Rather that to talk to an Audio Portal moderator who made the actual decision or the person who came up with the rules you disagree with, it appears that your first thought led you down a path where you tried to extract money from regular Newgrounds-user @G2961 for acting in accordance with the NG site rules. While threatening him with legal actions, that did not have a snowballs chance in hell - which you, as an experienced veteran, would "probably" already have known about. As well as everything else I just laid out.
Let me be clear: In light of that thought process of yours, I do not find it in my heart to care about what stupid AI bullshit you did or did not pull! So please excuse me, if I will not discuss the finer points of risks and benefits of AI in music production with you, @johnnyq1233.
Did I leave anything out there or does that about cover it? Please, by all means: Get yourself into deeper poo than you already have...
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Newgrounds Wiki: How to Detect AI Audio (New!) ("Is this really such an issue?")
Suno:
Udio:
Misc:
Isolation and Lunar Abyss mashup
Low Pitch Version of AXIUS LINK - KOCMOC (from F# Minor to F Minor)
It seems to AI vocal removing from some song
Instrumental version of August by Intelligence
Mashup of Power Trip and Dash
Reupload of MDK - Dash (Fan-extended Version)
Stolen version of CUTE DEPRESSED (slowed)
Suno AI:
(I'm pretty sure it's Suno AI generation, but the instrumental is shifted to the left channel and some weird shit in my right ear. I've listened to the separate left channel, and I'm pretty sure of that for sure)
Decided to to a little stolen hunt!
Suno AI:
Stolen bits of “Geometry Dash Theme Song”, by MDK:
Other Stolen:
TITLE WAVEE!!111!!!111!!! (all these are just stolen from Dion Timmer):
Stolen from Bigthunder556:
Another version that I couldn’t find the source of:
Electrodynamix:
Stolen from Adbul Cisse:
Source: https://www.tiktok.com/@adbul_cisse/video/7075413021178350891?lang=en
Spam:
Hahahahaha, begging at the beginning of your track is something I’ve never heard before. (Not saying this needs to be removed, I just thought it was funny.)
I think this might be stolen, but I don’t know:
This is why Suno might not make it through the lawsuits. The first song's vocals sound almost exactly like a Five Finger Death Punch song, specifically at 1:03. Compare it to this. Sound familiar? A lot of Five Finger Death Punch songs have that vocal only, scratchy transition, and this Suno song replicated it perfectly. Most of the song just matches Ivan Moody's voice too. I understand that things like paraody tracks can exist (musicians such as Weird AL have made their whole career about that), but this feels too far, especialy since it's made from the original songs, not from scratch. The second song is also Suno, obviously.
HAHAHAHAHAHA, Team? Effort?
I don't think so buddy...
At 7/15/24 05:56 PM, Questtrek wrote:This is why Suno might not make it through the lawsuits. The first song's vocals sound almost exactly like a Five Finger Death Punch song, specifically at 1:03. Compare it to this. Sound familiar? A lot of Five Finger Death Punch songs have that vocal only, scratchy transition, and this Suno song replicated it perfectly. Most of the song just matches Ivan Moody's voice too. I understand that things like paraody tracks can exist (musicians such as Weird AL have made their whole career about that), but this feels too far, especialy since it's made from the original songs, not from scratch.
I can see your point perfectly. With some hope, the legal precedent set should cripple this cancerous industry, and help slow the slop-nami pounding the Audio Portal at this point in time.
Also, Weird Al's a pretty good example of using other people's work ethically - he famously asks permission before producing his parodies, and respects artists' wishes if they reject his requests.
he/they - pretty cool guy
At 7/15/24 06:37 PM, BlueMonday1984 wrote:At 7/15/24 05:56 PM, Questtrek wrote:This is why Suno might not make it through the lawsuits. The first song's vocals sound almost exactly like a Five Finger Death Punch song, specifically at 1:03. Compare it to this. Sound familiar? A lot of Five Finger Death Punch songs have that vocal only, scratchy transition, and this Suno song replicated it perfectly. Most of the song just matches Ivan Moody's voice too. I understand that things like paraody tracks can exist (musicians such as Weird AL have made their whole career about that), but this feels too far, especialy since it's made from the original songs, not from scratch.I can see your point perfectly. With some hope, the legal precedent set should cripple this cancerous industry, and help slow the slop-nami pounding the Audio Portal at this point in time.
Also, Weird Al's a pretty good example of using other people's work ethically - he famously asks permission before producing his parodies, and respects artists' wishes if they reject his requests.
He technically doesn't have to even ask, as parody is still considered fair use (at least in the US, I'm not sure about other countries). It's nice that he will respect an artist's wishes though.
All of these are stolen from Dimrain47.
Other stolen remixes:
A lot of them steal from this:
Hey! I'm here again! I'm back to help clean up this audio portal of audio garbage!
I found account with 7 Suno songs
Suno:
(He wrote that he did it in FL Studio, but I can be 1000% sure it's Suno AI because I immediately heard that synth, which reminds me of a Chinese flute, lol. Also, the 192kbps bitrate, and also seeing this song in spectrogram.)
udio:
Misc:
Audio Spam
Audio Spam
Mashup of The Spectre and Levitating
Audio garbage from Vengeance Dubstep Vol.1 Sample Pack
This dumb guy stole my KOCMOC remix by raising the key to F#Minor, and adding dumb effects.
My original remix
His dumb version
Assorted Suno AI Tracks:
Suspicious:
Assorted Stolen Songs:
Spam:
