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Audio Portal Cleanup

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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2024-07-11 10:30:54


I apologize for not putting it all in one post, as I didn't expect to find anything else myself, lol.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, come on again some pseudo company (the correct term would be Suno Inc.) that uploads AI audio!


Again, Suno songs:


Soundraw:

(similar song)

(similar song)

(similar song)

(I couldn't find the right genre, however it seems like an AI song to me too, as I personally notice that Soundraw structure)


GarageBand Live Loops:

(Dubstep genre)


Misc:

Reupload of So Mnoi Vouet Satana

"✻h+3+яд✻7lucjio0t6" speedup

"✻h+3+яд✻7lucjio0t6" speedup again

Just a speedup of Tanger - BIKE


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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2024-07-12 00:17:50 (edited 2024-07-12 00:19:47)


I second what @G9261 said. DragonWriter is uploading AI songs, and it’s not just the vocals. The whole songs are made with AI. In the metadata of the songs, they all have a bitrate around 256kbps, which is fine, but when analyzed in a spectrogram, they all have a cutoff at 19kHz, meaning that they originally had a bitrate of 192kbps (max output of Suno AI), not 256kbps. Not only that, but there’s just so many little artifacts. The drums sound like sand on some of them, and the mixing feels off. "The Land of the Unfree" has those crusty high tones. The “different versions” of the songs sound nothing like each other. I’m fairly certain this was all made with AI, my best guess being Suno AI (but it could also be Udio). 


Full spectrogram analysis here:

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1dWaS8ow2gCT6i-etuJM8GdQv6RFRtAWS?usp=sharing


Example spectrogram: 

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The songs in question:


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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2024-07-12 11:18:12


Suno:


Groovepad:


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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2024-07-12 15:59:17


Suno:


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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2024-07-12 23:34:00


Finally! Another account with Suno songs!

(I think he just put some house drums and some bass in the background.)


Another Suno AI songs:

(btw, this is v3 model)

(and this is v2 model, so there's not a lot of noise in the background)


Misc:

Re-recorded version of Crim3s - Lost Piano Cover with original song in low quality.

Again, reupload of So Mnoy Vouet Satana

Remix on Nas Ne dogonyat by t.a.t.u (original vocal used)

Ultra-stolen version of MDK - Dash and fan-mades

Again, ultra-stolen version of MDK - Dash and fan-mades

AGAIN, ultra-stolen version of MDK - Dash and fan-mades

Bruh, Tidal Wave cover (stolen from this)

Stupid cover on Base After Base


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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2024-07-13 00:45:21


At 7/12/24 11:46 PM, johnnyq1233 wrote:
At 7/8/24 09:54 AM, Yatsufusa wrote:
At 7/7/24 09:01 PM, G2961 wrote:he also wants to sue me :)

[yadda-yadda-yadda & site rules...]

Have a great day!

Look, I like music and I like to look at different ways to do certain things.
Me using a digital platform to help me get my words or idea out there isn't wrong.
No more wrong than rappers using loops of other peoples stuff for their song.
The difference being, I'm not using other peoples tracks, I am using AI to help me do some things I can't do in a timely matter.
Finishing a piece is crucial to getting a piece that I want to further work on.


I hope that was directed at this thread's audience in general, rather than at me specifically. But...


While I understand some aspects of that kind of work, I don't even understand a fraction of what scouted audio artists know about the process - let alone an Audio Portal moderator. Correct me if I'm wrong, but if I remember that situation correctly that was the topic: Some tracks you uploaded to Newgrounds had been removed by an Audio Portal moderator in accordance with the site rules. And then you directed your anger towards a 16-year old who reported you for it. Rather that to talk to an Audio Portal moderator who made the actual decision or the person who came up with the rules you disagree with, it appears that your first thought led you down a path where you tried to extract money from regular Newgrounds-user @G2961 for acting in accordance with the NG site rules. While threatening him with legal actions, that did not have a snowballs chance in hell - which you, as an experienced veteran, would "probably" already have known about. As well as everything else I just laid out.


Let me be clear: In light of that thought process of yours, I do not find it in my heart to care about what stupid AI bullshit you did or did not pull! So please excuse me, if I will not discuss the finer points of risks and benefits of AI in music production with you, @johnnyq1233.


Did I leave anything out there or does that about cover it? Please, by all means: Get yourself into deeper poo than you already have...


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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2024-07-13 23:50:30 (edited 2024-07-13 23:55:45)


Suno:


Udio:


Misc:

Isolation and Lunar Abyss mashup

Low Pitch Version of AXIUS LINK - KOCMOC (from F# Minor to F Minor)

It seems to AI vocal removing from some song

Instrumental version of August by Intelligence

Mashup of Power Trip and Dash

Reupload of MDK - Dash (Fan-extended Version)

Stolen version of CUTE DEPRESSED (slowed)


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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2024-07-15 05:15:02


Suno AI:

(I'm pretty sure it's Suno AI generation, but the instrumental is shifted to the left channel and some weird shit in my right ear. I've listened to the separate left channel, and I'm pretty sure of that for sure)


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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2024-07-15 15:43:37


Decided to to a little stolen hunt!


Suno AI:


Stolen bits of “Geometry Dash Theme Song”, by MDK:


Other Stolen: 


TITLE WAVEE!!111!!!111!!! (all these are just stolen from Dion Timmer):


Stolen from Bigthunder556:


Another version that I couldn’t find the source of:


Electrodynamix:


Stolen from Adbul Cisse:

Source: https://www.tiktok.com/@adbul_cisse/video/7075413021178350891?lang=en


Spam: 


Hahahahaha, begging at the beginning of your track is something I’ve never heard before. (Not saying this needs to be removed, I just thought it was funny.)


I think this might be stolen, but I don’t know:


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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2024-07-15 17:56:56 (edited 2024-07-15 18:02:05)


This is why Suno might not make it through the lawsuits. The first song's vocals sound almost exactly like a Five Finger Death Punch song, specifically at 1:03. Compare it to this. Sound familiar? A lot of Five Finger Death Punch songs have that vocal only, scratchy transition, and this Suno song replicated it perfectly. Most of the song just matches Ivan Moody's voice too. I understand that things like paraody tracks can exist (musicians such as Weird AL have made their whole career about that), but this feels too far, especialy since it's made from the original songs, not from scratch. The second song is also Suno, obviously.



HAHAHAHAHAHA, Team? Effort?

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I don't think so buddy...

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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2024-07-15 18:37:57


At 7/15/24 05:56 PM, Questtrek wrote:This is why Suno might not make it through the lawsuits. The first song's vocals sound almost exactly like a Five Finger Death Punch song, specifically at 1:03. Compare it to this. Sound familiar? A lot of Five Finger Death Punch songs have that vocal only, scratchy transition, and this Suno song replicated it perfectly. Most of the song just matches Ivan Moody's voice too. I understand that things like paraody tracks can exist (musicians such as Weird AL have made their whole career about that), but this feels too far, especialy since it's made from the original songs, not from scratch.

I can see your point perfectly. With some hope, the legal precedent set should cripple this cancerous industry, and help slow the slop-nami pounding the Audio Portal at this point in time.


Also, Weird Al's a pretty good example of using other people's work ethically - he famously asks permission before producing his parodies, and respects artists' wishes if they reject his requests.


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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2024-07-15 18:45:27


At 7/15/24 06:37 PM, BlueMonday1984 wrote:
At 7/15/24 05:56 PM, Questtrek wrote:This is why Suno might not make it through the lawsuits. The first song's vocals sound almost exactly like a Five Finger Death Punch song, specifically at 1:03. Compare it to this. Sound familiar? A lot of Five Finger Death Punch songs have that vocal only, scratchy transition, and this Suno song replicated it perfectly. Most of the song just matches Ivan Moody's voice too. I understand that things like paraody tracks can exist (musicians such as Weird AL have made their whole career about that), but this feels too far, especialy since it's made from the original songs, not from scratch.
I can see your point perfectly. With some hope, the legal precedent set should cripple this cancerous industry, and help slow the slop-nami pounding the Audio Portal at this point in time.

Also, Weird Al's a pretty good example of using other people's work ethically - he famously asks permission before producing his parodies, and respects artists' wishes if they reject his requests.


He technically doesn't have to even ask, as parody is still considered fair use (at least in the US, I'm not sure about other countries). It's nice that he will respect an artist's wishes though.


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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2024-07-15 19:03:53


Bark model or similar:

Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2024-07-16 19:28:18


All of these are stolen from Dimrain47.


Other stolen remixes:


A lot of them steal from this:


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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2024-07-19 09:48:53


Hey! I'm here again! I'm back to help clean up this audio portal of audio garbage!


I found account with 7 Suno songs


Suno:

(He wrote that he did it in FL Studio, but I can be 1000% sure it's Suno AI because I immediately heard that synth, which reminds me of a Chinese flute, lol. Also, the 192kbps bitrate, and also seeing this song in spectrogram.)


udio:


Misc:

Audio Spam

Audio Spam

Mashup of The Spectre and Levitating

Audio garbage from Vengeance Dubstep Vol.1 Sample Pack


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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2024-07-20 06:09:20


Hours and hours and hours of silence:


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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2024-07-20 11:37:42


This dumb guy stole my KOCMOC remix by raising the key to F#Minor, and adding dumb effects.

My original remix

His dumb version


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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2024-07-20 20:01:05 (edited 2024-07-20 20:01:23)


Assorted Suno AI Tracks:


Suspicious: 


Assorted Stolen Songs:


Spam:


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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2024-07-20 20:15:54


Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2024-07-20 20:38:46


Forgot to add this earlier:

Stolen and earrape.


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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2024-07-20 21:36:32


Suspicious of these two songs being AI generated:


The first one was already taken down, but was reposted (at least that's what I remember). It sounds a lot like AI generated music, and under a spectrogram it's bitrate is awful. It has that high pitched screechiness. The second song has similar problems, just not as severe. The paino sounds off. Anyone else want to take a look at this?


iu_1239530_8914923.webp



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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2024-07-21 12:19:22


Clearly contains copyrighted content from Markiplier: https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1342307


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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2024-07-21 21:07:43 (edited 2024-07-21 21:17:02)


At 7/19/24 09:48 AM, G2961 wrote:Hey! I'm here again! I'm back to help clean up this audio portal of audio garbage!

I found account with 7 Suno songs
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1342280
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1342374
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1342387
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1342420
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1342518
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1342523
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1342529

Suno:
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1342494
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1342465
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1342434
(He wrote that he did it in FL Studio, but I can be 1000% sure it's Suno AI because I immediately heard that synth, which reminds me of a Chinese flute, lol. Also, the 192kbps bitrate, and also seeing this song in spectrogram.)
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1342391

udio:

Misc:
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1342482
Audio Spam
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1342363
Audio Spam
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1342430
Mashup of The Spectre and Levitating
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1342394
Audio garbage from Vengeance Dubstep Vol.1 Sample Pack


Strange. Looks like Devcool's songs were restored. I was near certain that they were AI. Who restored them?


I'm doing a deeper analysis on their tracks. I'll post that in a bit. It already looks pretty bad.


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192kbps is the max bitrate of Suno AI. Exactly. All of their songs are at that bitrate.


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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2024-07-21 22:03:50 (edited 2024-07-21 22:10:10)


I didn't really need to do this, but I did so anyway. The metadata said all the songs by Devcool are 192kbps, which is the max output of Suno AI. The spectrograms reflect that. (A 19kHz max frequency is indicative of a bitrate of 192kbps, regaurdless of what the metadata says.) In fact, many of the spectrograms show even worse bitrates, which Suno AI also often spits out. They just didn't properly cherry pick the generations for the best ones.


Here is an example:

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This one doesn't even breach the 16kHz threshold, which equates to a 128kbps bitrate.


Another example:

iu_1240058_8914923.webp

This one has some fuzz that peaks out to 19kHz, but the majority of the song has a max frequency of about 17kHz.


I uploaded the rest of the spectrograms to my file dump (download and unzip it):

https://www.newgrounds.com/dump/item/630b603b167ecf4060da056c81aaf5ad


Also, anyone who knows what Suno (and AI generated music in general) sounds like can easilly tell that these songs by Devcool were made by a generative model. "Everlasting Fantasy" is really quiet for the majority of it, before finishing off with some strange sounding string instruments. Or maybe it's horns. You can't really tell because it's all just an artifact-filled mess. "Run Away" hits all the crusty high tones right off the bat. Same with "Steve Harvey" and a couple others. All of the songs have percussion that sound strange at best. I don't know why these songs were restored, but I'm near certain they're AI generated and should be looked at thouroughly by a mod again. @ADR3-N, I know you're very familiar with AI, can you take a look at Devcool?


The metadata, spectrogram analysis, and the artifacts the songs have all point to Suno AI.


Thanks,

Quest


P.S. This is unrelated to Devcool, but look at this song too.


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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2024-07-22 16:48:42


At 7/21/24 10:03 PM, Questtrek wrote:reports of Devcool etc


You were right on. All of those songs sounded without a shadow of a doubt to be AI generated. Reviewed, removed, and banned.


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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2024-07-24 01:43:49


Suno AI:


AI too:


Stolen:


I think these might just be Midi uploads:

https://atimeoutoccurred111.newgrounds.com/audio


Why does this sound so tinny? 


Spam:


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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2024-07-24 21:18:49 (edited 2024-07-24 21:32:55)


Suno AI:


Spam:


Stolen:


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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2024-07-24 21:38:24


Suno Again:


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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2024-07-27 21:40:12 (edited 2024-07-27 21:41:27)



Stolen from https://soundcloud.com/yunotenshi/onrewind, which in turn (probably illegally) samples Rewind by Wonder Girls.


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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2024-07-28 04:43:57


Sigh...


Suno AI:


Suspicious:


I mentioned this guy a while back, but I am still suspicious that this user is uploading a bunch of AI tracks. Every song is uploaded at 128kbps, and the metadata has all been changed on each of the tracks to look like some band from the 60's called "The Pengus". The vocals are rarely consistant betweeen songs, and this latest track is the most artificial sounding one yet. The vocals are nearly unintelligible and sound more like a choir of borg drones than an actual vocalist. 


Stolen:


I think this might be stolen too:


Spam:


Again, I still have no idea what to do with submissions like this. It feels mean to report it... Are they even doing anything wrong? It's funny in its own adorable (and annoying) way...


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