At 3/4/23 08:35 PM, tox wrote:

At 3/4/23 06:17 PM, g2961 wrote:The vocals were taken from here -https://youtu.be/jhTXmuHrnac
This remix - https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1069917

a mod can weigh in on this, but we usually don't care about non English lyrics... "most" of the time?
i cant understand what is being said, how am i supposed to flag something from another language that the singer is actually singing about a different thing or idea
I usually stay away from songs like this for this reason

At 3/4/23 06:21 PM, g2961 wrote:
This is a remake 1:1
Original - https://youtu.be/14vzeTvZe5I
Remake - https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1083347
This also violates the NG rules, but only about the 1:1 remake.

the 1:1 rules is used to eliminate songs that are exact copies, every lyric, every beat, every instrument, the speed or tempo, everything, its a very narrow and hyper focused version of the Do not upload audio that you did not create and have full rights to
that being said, the audio link that you sent only focuses on a single piano beat, i doubt that that will be enough to take this piece down

as for the actual stolen audio, could you be more specific about the time frames that you want us to listen to in this?

At 3/4/23 06:27 PM, g2961 wrote:
Hello, this is stolen audio.
Original - https://youtu.be/e4TUSKFkUWI
Reupload - https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1043782
You can't upload someone else's work, because it's not according to the rules of the site.

this is a perfect example of the 1:1 rule in action

At 3/4/23 06:30 PM, g2961 wrote:
Stolen song.
Original - https://youtu.be/W9GXqCBAZb0
Stolen - https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1052318
It's already clear that this is stolen audio.

perfect

At 3/4/23 06:31 PM, g2961 wrote:
Again stolen.
Original - https://youtu.be/z3zMnhdVGNc
Stolen - https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1197804

perfect

At 3/4/23 06:31 PM, g2961 wrote:
Slowed version - https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1197315
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1197323

this is an example of a the nightcore rule, sooo... perfect

At 3/4/23 06:34 PM, g2961 wrote:
Stolen and distorted song.
Original -https://youtu.be/3i3DByv7Ty8
Stolen - https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1173869

a mod will need to weigh in on this

Original sound stolen - https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1167718

perfect
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see, i knew that you could do this, we can all follow where you are going, what you are referencing, who, what, when, where, why, details, everything
good job

At 3/4/23 11:05 PM, Leavesz wrote:

At 3/4/23 08:35 PM, tox wrote:

At 3/4/23 06:27 PM, g2961 wrote:Hello, this is stolen audio.
Original - https://youtu.be/e4TUSKFkUWI
Reupload - https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1043782
You can't upload someone else's work, because it's not according to the rules of the site.

this is a perfect example of the 1:1 rule in action

But that doesn't seem to be a remake, the 1:1 rule applies to remakes doesn't it? This one is just a reupload of the track, the audio pretty much cancels out if you play both the stolen ng upload and the original upload at the same time with one's polarity inverted. It should be flagged as stolen audio and not as a 1:1 remake in this case.

unless i misread something in the audio guidelines

At 3/7/23 06:14 PM, Seth wrote:

At 3/7/23 05:28 PM, tox wrote:

At 3/7/23 05:13 PM, Seth wrote:

At 3/7/23 12:07 AM, Seth wrote:

Yo, anyone gonna handle this? Obvious rule-breaking audio here. Or did I miss something in the rules?

ehhhh... they are probably just busy watching Helsing abridged or something
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9J7Q4Tzui4&t=4s&ab_channel=Aeris97

ANYHOW
lets see this....

At 3/7/23 12:07 AM, Seth wrote:
Uses commercial vocals.
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1198881

eeeeehhhhhh... id let that one through

Look at the author comments, the following is just a mashup
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1198876

thats a mashup of a song that is 2k worth of views and another that is 4k worth of views from years ago, you are technically correct that the song is using music from other sources that they did not directly create or may not have rights too, but.... i mean... 6k views combined? dont we have bigger fish to fry than this? flag as you need to though

Samples from commercial music:
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1198869

and last but not least, the mashup of a buncha buncha
I can hear where the Marilyn Manson lyrics are, but that is so deeply distorted that it's been re-arranged/re-mixed into a new singer
i think that you can argue on the
Please ensure that your song is able to pass a “reasonable person test”, meaning that it does not sound similar or have VSTs or Synths that sound similar to copyrighted materials.
rule, but I don't see the mods taking this one down currently

You have a good point on a lot of this stuff, and this isn't necessarily against you, but... we do make exceptions where humanly possible, right? I gotta say, what about Sabrepulse and other popular chiptune artists? Technically, any "8-bit" artist can be automatically fucked by the VST/synth rule. SP uses Gameboy samples, but a lot of VSTs come remarkably close to reproducing these sounds. Create a somewhat similar melodic progression to any of those works, and now the rule comes into play despite the artist's intention.

Unless I'm misunderstanding this rule entirely.

At 3/7/23 07:03 PM, Seth wrote:

At 3/7/23 06:51 PM, tox wrote:

At 3/7/23 06:30 PM, tox wrote:

At 3/7/23 06:14 PM, Seth wrote:

At 3/7/23 05:28 PM, tox wrote:

At 3/7/23 05:13 PM, Seth wrote:

At 3/7/23 12:07 AM, Seth wrote:

a guy that wanders a "few" feet outside of the sandbox area

please note that a "few" is the critical word in all of this

I usually get my heckles up with people that start sprinting off in a different direction than the play sandbox, but if a guy is wandering around 10-20 feet outside the proverbial sandbox but you can still see exactly what they are doing and how they are still trying to be original but they don't have the skills to be the OC original DJ that so many people aspire to be and find their own path in this audio world we find ourselves in, then yeah I'm going to let that person wander around and develop their skills

hey i took this song i just herd on the radio and uploaded it

get out of here criminal scum!

i took the song from the radio and harmonized it, then altered a few things then tried my own thing here and there

eeeh... if this doesn't sound waaay different then I'm getting my yard stick and beating you with it

i took the song from the radio, cut out THESE parts and remixed them into a sound that doesn't exist currently and then made a song from those remixes/tracks the same way that daft punk does

my dude, yall get 5 stars, get on the front page!

rocket
wandering
well within the sandbox

I was wondering about how the rules are enforced fr. I didn't flag the 3 I poasted above, as they were scouted (approved) artists, uploading stuff with vocal samples. I figured I had missed something.
So, thank you.

At 3/9/23 08:57 AM, tox wrote:

At 3/9/23 08:13 AM, g2961 wrote:

At 3/5/23 08:17 AM, g2961 wrote:Pitchshift song.
Original - https://youtu.be/89yDiQ8WkNg
Pitch-shifted ver. - https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1187861

Too

@Pingu
could you field the above 3 posts/question when you get a moment?
I have also been a bit curious about the in's and out's of the mashup rule awhen it gets enforced
orrrrr @LexRodent since you are our resident boogieman

At 3/9/23 08:13 AM, g2961 wrote:

At 3/5/23 08:32 AM, g2961 wrote:Why doesn't anyone delete the mashup?

And this

Too

It's just that they haven't deleted these mashups for 4 days, although, if I'm not mistaken, moderators can delete them after 1-3 days, but okay, this is not my job, which I have to do quickly, and moderators can't devote every day of their lives to the site.

At 3/9/23 11:49 AM, Exedor wrote:

At 3/9/23 08:13 AM, g2961 wrote:

At 3/5/23 08:32 AM, g2961 wrote:Why doesn't anyone delete the mashup?

And this

Too

It's just that they haven't deleted these mashups for 4 days, although, if I'm not mistaken, moderators can delete them after 1-3 days, but okay, this is not my job, which I have to do quickly, and moderators can't devote every day of their lives to the site.

You post too much. You don't pay attention. And you answer your own questions. Do you wonder why you don't get instant replies?

A few days ago, I told you in this post what you needed to know. I told you to flag them, rather than report them here. I also told you that you post so frequently that you make your posts into noise instead of discussion.

Spam posting. We have rules against making lots of meaningless posts, and you can be banned for it. If you can edit your previous post, please do so. After the 15-30 minute edit window ends, then you can make a new post. Meaningless posts are considered spam.

Why mods aren't quicker. Because we're people who work jobs and have lives. Newgrounds is not our job, nor 100% of our lives. And, as you said earlier, "...and moderators can't devote every day of their lives to the site" which is correct, and answers your own question. Be patient while we work, but also...

You don't do what you're supposed to do. You don't flag things so we don't have a flag ticket to work on, and you don't get any credit. See that pink whistle in your profile? There's a reason for that. You don't flag the things you complain about. Stop spamming this thread with things you don't flag. We work the flag tickets but posting links in this thread gains you nothing. We get to the BBS when we can. Flag items with a good description of the issue and include links to the originals or proof which helps us process things faster.

If you want the benefits of being a respected, quality poster, pay attention to what I said here. Or continue and you'll become a nuisance, and receive the benefits thereof.

At 3/10/23 01:42 AM, LexRodent wrote:

At 3/9/23 08:57 AM, tox wrote:@Pingu
could you field the above 3 posts/question when you get a moment?
I have also been a bit curious about the in's and out's of the mashup rule and when it gets enforced
orrrrr @LexRodent since you are our resident boogieman

Who dares to evoke my presence ?

Pitch shifted tracks are 100% against the rules since those provide 0 original work.
Speed up or slowed makes no difference in this regard.

Mashups are also against the rules.
Superposing 2 songs which you didn't made , no matter how ingenious the result could be sometimes , doesn't count as acceptable audio submissions on NG ; Again , no original musical work is present.

Mashing a song of your own whit something made by someone else, could be debatable.
If there is copyrighted audio involved it's a big NO.
If there's proper license / rights acquired and most of the track it's original , an exception could be made.
Could . . .
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@g2961

Please listen to @Exedor 's advice my good fellow.
If you want to help moderators to efficiently take care of your reports , it's better to keep things tidy.

Make a single list of your day's findings ( as you did here ) instead of individual posts.

Also don't forget to flag. Flags get more eyes on them.
If you state in your flags the same reasons and links as you do on your posts, and that'll be OK.