Oh, and I should have added this to my post, but it only came to realising it since I had to read through 3 pages, and I know we're off the rap topic, but Ghoul, my post wasn't merely directed to you, or I would have quoted you, so it wasn't an attack on your opinion/post merely, but the subject at hand and the negative outlook on it in general by the regs.
RoseSOAS: you should know i dont think this far ahead
Me made simple: well you already thought as far as holding a chicken while in your underwear