At 1/7/13 01:42 PM, Sense-Offender wrote:

At 1/6/13 10:21 AM, Bahamut wrote: Going back to a conversation regarding Mr. Bungle. I have listened through the self-titled album and I can understand why one won't like it for the lack of real flow to it but as something that's out of the box, I am giving it a better chance and the more I listen to it the less the random moments bother me.

I don't care what anyone says. They're awesome. I think these three songs in particular stand out.

I love Mr. Bungle. Their music is so off the wall and random, yet for some reason it flows and is ingeniously crafted.

In other news, I should be seeing Meshuggah soon. They're playing with Gojira (which I give 0 fucks about) but I've been wanting to see Meshuggah for a long while. Should be an intense show.

At 1/7/13 06:43 PM, ElGhoulio wrote: In other news, I should be seeing Meshuggah soon. They're playing with Gojira (which I give 0 fucks about) but I've been wanting to see Meshuggah for a long while. Should be an intense show.

heh. I'd be going just for Gojira.

At 1/7/13 08:34 AM, ZeroAsALimit wrote: Behemoth - Behemoth

Wait, does that mean Behemoth is releasing a self-tlted album this year? I haven't heard of this.

At 1/7/13 07:37 PM, Sense-Offender wrote:

At 1/7/13 06:43 PM, ElGhoulio wrote: In other news, I should be seeing Meshuggah soon. They're playing with Gojira (which I give 0 fucks about) but I've been wanting to see Meshuggah for a long while. Should be an intense show.

heh. I'd be going just for Gojira.

Lol. Yeah kinda like how my girlfriend went to the Marduk/1349 show just for 1349, and I went just for Marduk.

At 1/7/13 07:56 PM, mothballs wrote:

At 1/7/13 08:34 AM, ZeroAsALimit wrote: Behemoth - Behemoth

Wait, does that mean Behemoth is releasing a self-tlted album this year? I haven't heard of this.

There should be a law against this kind of stuff. Your self-titled can only be your first full-length, nothing else !

At 1/7/13 01:42 PM, Sense-Offender wrote:

At 1/6/13 10:21 AM, Bahamut wrote: Going back to a conversation regarding Mr. Bungle. I have listened through the self-titled album and I can understand why one won't like it for the lack of real flow to it but as something that's out of the box, I am giving it a better chance and the more I listen to it the less the random moments bother me.

I don't care what anyone says. They're awesome. I think these three songs in particular stand out.

I quite like Carousel right now but I suppose that's their most accessible song.

At 1/7/13 12:59 PM, Bahamut wrote: How can you not be liked around here?

ZaaL isn't liked around here? since when?

I did not want to imply that; just wanted to reassure that he's awesome. :D

At 1/7/13 06:43 PM, ElGhoulio wrote: I love Mr. Bungle. Their music is so off the wall and random, yet for some reason it flows and is ingeniously crafted.

That's how I'm seeing the debut album. With more listens the random moments will feel clear to me and while I've criticised some albums for throwing random shit for no apparent, here it at least works.

At 1/7/13 07:37 PM, Sense-Offender wrote: heh. I'd be going just for Gojira.

I'm actually going to see Gojira in March but only because they have a show with Ghost in London.

Enjoying the album The Sham Mirrors by Arcturus a lot lately. Great great great great great album :)
Also found this... You can't get much more kvlt than that !

Not on topic but my youtube account was apparently deleted -_-
To which I am thoroughly pissed off. I made a new account but I now need to try remembering what I was subscribed to....

At 1/9/13 02:17 AM, ZeroAsALimit wrote: Uh, a huge portion including the most expensive stuff is still with my mum. What I did have the boss made me clear out for space for her.

Ah right. Yeah, you don't want the more expensive stuff gone. Some CDs have been hell for me to hunt down, particularly Manilla Road, although they have been getting more and more reissues since I acquired all their studio albums. I don't have this album but I'm still wanting to get Slough Feg's self-titled album. Maybe with them signing to Metal Blade and having some reissues next month, it won't be long until they do finally have their debut album available on CD again.

At 1/9/13 02:37 AM, Viper50 wrote: Not on topic but my youtube account was apparently deleted -_-
To which I am thoroughly pissed off. I made a new account but I now need to try remembering what I was subscribed to....

I give very little trust to YouTube. At least my MondayMetalTreasures account hasn't been struck down. Any of the videos I had on my main account were deleted after I got hit by false copyright claims.

At 1/9/13 07:47 AM, Bahamut wrote:

At 1/9/13 02:37 AM, Viper50 wrote: Not on topic but my youtube account was apparently deleted -_-
To which I am thoroughly pissed off. I made a new account but I now need to try remembering what I was subscribed to....

I give very little trust to YouTube. At least my MondayMetalTreasures account hasn't been struck down. Any of the videos I had on my main account were deleted after I got hit by false copyright claims.

What really irritates me is that I was in the middle of deleting stuff which may have caused my account's deletion when that happened too.....
Also that was the first account I re-subscribed to when I got my new account up ._.

My new account is the same name as my old one but with a 1 at the end. It was originally Viper505repiV so now its Viper505erpiV1.

Any Danzig fans here? I've been loving Danzig III quite a bit lately. Good shit on that album, lots of good doom moments. I get the impression Bahamut and Viper might especially dig it.

At 1/9/13 04:41 PM, Tobi wrote: Any Danzig fans here? I've been loving Danzig III quite a bit lately. Good shit on that album, lots of good doom moments. I get the impression Bahamut and Viper might especially dig it.

I really like I and II. I haven't heard much besides that, I've heard everything post-III sucks though.

At 1/9/13 05:05 PM, Zodir wrote: I really like I and II. I haven't heard much besides that, I've heard everything post-III sucks though.

4 is decent I hear, but I dunno. You should check out III if you haven't already. It's my favorite by him.

At 1/9/13 04:41 PM, Tobi wrote: Any Danzig fans here? I've been loving Danzig III quite a bit lately. Good shit on that album, lots of good doom moments. I get the impression Bahamut and Viper might especially dig it.

I quite like Danzig.
Granted I feel his stuff with the Misfits is better than his solo stuff, but he still has some pretty decent stuff out.

At 1/9/13 04:41 PM, Tobi wrote: Any Danzig fans here? I've been loving Danzig III quite a bit lately. Good shit on that album, lots of good doom moments. I get the impression Bahamut and Viper might especially dig it.

You know, I've heard the name a few times but have never checked them out. Can't figure out why not yet.

I haven't listened to much of the Misfits, but I have Danzig, Lucifuge, and How the Gods Kill, which are all awesome.

Check em' out Bahamut, you just may like em.

Speaking of the Misfits, their album Earth AD sounds pretty heavy for it's time. Sounds like extreme metal at least 3 years before it's development.

It's kinda funny how long it took for metal to catch up to the extremity of punk. Flipper and Black Flag were doing sludge way before the genre was even invented, and stuff like Siege and Asocial still sounds like it could have been released in the mid 90's.

All this talk of The Misfits has this song stuck in my head.

I got the latest Manowar album, and I'm actually a little disappointed. I think they're starting to run out of ideas; lyrically and musically. It was mixed really badly too.

At 1/10/13 11:24 AM, Centurion-Ryan wrote: I got the latest Manowar album, and I'm actually a little disappointed. I think they're starting to run out of ideas; lyrically and musically. It was mixed really badly too.

It's easily the worst they've done. When you have to start making song titles like Manowarriors and Hail, Kill and Die, it's time for your band to retire. They may have had some bumps in the road but this really just shows they've reached the bottom of the barrel.

At 1/10/13 11:26 AM, Bahamut wrote:

At 1/10/13 11:24 AM, Centurion-Ryan wrote: I got the latest Manowar album, and I'm actually a little disappointed. I think they're starting to run out of ideas; lyrically and musically. It was mixed really badly too.

It's easily the worst they've done. When you have to start making song titles like Manowarriors and Hail, Kill and Die, it's time for your band to retire. They may have had some bumps in the road but this really just shows they've reached the bottom of the barrel.

They were going to continue with the idea they started with Gods of War, then Scott Columbus died. After that Joey DeMaio scrapped the project, but they had to make another album lest the fans eat them alive, so we have Lord of Steel.

Whatever scraps of originality were present on Gods of War are now gone and the result is Lord of Steel. Such a shame, too, because the Thunder in the Sky EP was actually pretty good. Oh well. I hope that the reason Lord of Steel was such a crap album was due to the death of Columbus and the upheaval that came after that, but a part of me believes they're just out of ideas now.

See, I got suckered in by El Gringo, which I honestly think is one of the best songs they've ever done. Then I heard Touch the Sky, which I also thought was pretty good. So, two for two, I got the album thinking it was going to be great. And hey! It's Manowar! One of the most consistently entertaining bands out there!

Boy, do I feel silly. I don't know if they were going for a more straightforward or old school kind of sound or whatever, but the end result is just boring and sterile. Maybe they were just rushed, like you said, but they've been going at this for nearly 35 years now, so it's understandable if they're creatively drained. I'd rather they just call it quits instead of continuing to pump out mediocre records, though.

At 1/10/13 09:46 PM, Centurion-Ryan wrote: Boy, do I feel silly. I don't know if they were going for a more straightforward or old school kind of sound or whatever, but the end result is just boring and sterile. Maybe they were just rushed, like you said, but they've been going at this for nearly 35 years now, so it's understandable if they're creatively drained. I'd rather they just call it quits instead of continuing to pump out mediocre records, though.

I'm just having a listen on youtube now, and I must say, the guitars (bass included) lack balls. The whole tone is a bit lacklustre, usually there's huge explosions of sound.

I'm not normally a huge Manowar fan anyway, although I do enjoy the fist pumping stadium anthems, but yeah it does sound a bit tired and stale

Here's a video of a New Zealand power metal band, the singer is in a Manowar tribute band called Manowhore
Stormforge - As the night sky burns

At 1/10/13 11:05 PM, jack-be-nimble-69 wrote: I'm just having a listen on youtube now, and I must say, the guitars (bass included) lack balls. The whole tone is a bit lacklustre, usually there's huge explosions of sound.

Some of the songs would have actually been better if the production was better done. While there was criticism over their use of symphonic elements, some of that would have really helped the songs on the latest album. It's a modern trademark of theirs I can accept. You can't expect them to sound the same as from their first four albums but they also need to do something that will work in their modern ages.

At 1/11/13 08:55 AM, Bahamut wrote:

At 1/10/13 11:05 PM, jack-be-nimble-69 wrote: I'm just having a listen on youtube now, and I must say, the guitars (bass included) lack balls. The whole tone is a bit lacklustre, usually there's huge explosions of sound.

Some of the songs would have actually been better if the production was better done. While there was criticism over their use of symphonic elements, some of that would have really helped the songs on the latest album. It's a modern trademark of theirs I can accept. You can't expect them to sound the same as from their first four albums but they also need to do something that will work in their modern ages.

It's a classic case of a band trying to recapture their lost youth by simplifying riffs, taking out any ornament, roughing up the production, and shouting more into the mic.

Finaly got my hands on Sigh's first album, Scorn Defeat. Pretty damn good and not "primitive" like some interviewers and bloggers seem to believe it is. Off course it's not saturated with billions of heteroclite instruments and it's not avant-garde like their latest material, but calling it primitive (or was it primal...) is innapropriate. Very good black metal. I'm enjoying this :) And the original covers are kvlt as fuck

By the way Sense, I was giving another chance to Mr. Bungle just now. Tried the track Slowly Growing Deaf. It's pretty awesome. Too bad the track as to end with a full minute filled with noises of a man taking a dripping shit. But hey... that's funny right ?

Any Wolfbrigade fans here? Pretty good melodic hardcore with some black metal tendencies.

At 1/12/13 05:41 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: Finaly got my hands on Sigh's first album, Scorn Defeat. Pretty damn good and not "primitive" like some interviewers and bloggers seem to believe it is. Off course it's not saturated with billions of heteroclite instruments and it's not avant-garde like their latest material, but calling it primitive (or was it primal...) is innapropriate. Very good black metal. I'm enjoying this :) And the original covers are kvlt as fuck

That's my favorite Sigh album, I like the old stuff better than the Avant garde stuff. I love the lyrics dealing with Japanese mythology and religions.

At 1/12/13 08:29 PM, DeIirium wrote: That's my favorite Sigh album, I like the old stuff better than the Avant garde stuff. I love the lyrics dealing with Japanese mythology and religions.

Well, Scorn Defeat is kind of avant-garde in it's own way. They released it in 1993 and were already experimenting with black metal to take it in the direction they wanted it to. They were never clustered in a genre, and it shows, even with their very first album. I'm really enjoying it. Can't wait to get more of their albums :)