What is the big problem with Load & Reload and St Anger by Metallica?
Everybody is always saying that it suck, thats metallica became bad...
but if you stop saying the same thing as everybody else says, and you listen well to these albums youll realize that they are still a very good band, and that they owns a lot of Nu-Metal faggets band

At 8/24/05 01:45 AM, HeavenDuff wrote: What is the big problem with Load & Reload and St Anger by Metallica?
Everybody is always saying that it suck, thats metallica became bad...
but if you stop saying the same thing as everybody else says, and you listen well to these albums youll realize that they are still a very good band, and that they owns a lot of Nu-Metal faggets band

They may own a lot of nu-metal bands, but they shouldn't be competing with nu-metal bands!! They were a great thrash metal band that turned into shit just to keep up with the times.

At 8/24/05 02:09 AM, TehSatanistGay wrote: They may own a lot of nu-metal bands, but they shouldn't be competing with nu-metal bands!! They were a great thrash metal band that turned into shit just to keep up with the times.

Exactly, St Anger sounded nothing like their old stuff (Kill em all, master of puppets, etc). I mean a band has to evolve to keep being great but they made a bad decision. But meh St Anger wasnt too bad just not good.

At 8/24/05 01:45 AM, HeavenDuff wrote: What is the big problem with Load & Reload and St Anger by Metallica?
Everybody is always saying that it suck, thats metallica became bad...
but if you stop saying the same thing as everybody else says, and you listen well to these albums youll realize that they are still a very good band, and that they owns a lot of Nu-Metal faggets band

I actually like Load and Re-load....and maybe some songs on St. Anger.

They suck as Metallica songs, but good as rock songs.

I wanna join...

Fav metal bands are:

all Pantera, (old) In Flames (like Clayman and earlier), old Metallica (anything older than the black album), all Dark Tranquillity, most Lamb of God/Burn the Priest, most Shadows Fall (for some american metal), and right now I'm trying to get into Slayer and Iron Maiden

Im in metal rules

At 8/24/05 09:47 PM, X_Imperium_X wrote: I wanna join...

Fav metal bands are:

all Pantera, (old) In Flames (like Clayman and earlier), old Metallica (anything older than the black album), all Dark Tranquillity, most Lamb of God/Burn the Priest, most Shadows Fall (for some american metal), and right now I'm trying to get into Slayer and Iron Maiden

Good list, welcome.

At 8/24/05 09:54 PM, rich666 wrote: Im in metal rules

Slipknot? I see.... what are your favorite METAL bands?

At 8/24/05 09:54 PM, rich666 wrote: Im in metal rules

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At 8/25/05 01:23 AM, TehGaySatanist wrote: Ugghhhhghghhhghgjifgojvnpbv9ojbgbjop

yes lisa, daddys a teacher

At 8/24/05 09:54 PM, rich666 wrote:

Im in metal rules

slipknot aint metal. wot sum other metal bands u like bud.

SlipKnoT,
Iron Maiden,
Judas Priest,
Arch Enemy,
Murderdolls.^

Have a nice day ^^

At 8/24/05 02:09 AM, TehSatanistGay wrote:

At 8/24/05 01:45 AM, HeavenDuff wrote: What is the big problem with Load & Reload and St Anger by Metallica?
Everybody is always saying that it suck, thats metallica became bad...
but if you stop saying the same thing as everybody else says, and you listen well to these albums youll realize that they are still a very good band, and that they owns a lot of Nu-Metal faggets band

They may own a lot of nu-metal bands, but they shouldn't be competing with nu-metal bands!! They were a great thrash metal band that turned into shit just to keep up with the times.

Ok, I didnt said that they were competing with nu-metal bands, lets just say, that they are still a very good band and that their kind of music evolved to become a more agressive style of Metal, thats why the cd is named St. Anger !
Its very different, and its what I like about Metallica, they always bring news things to metal music.

At 8/25/05 03:45 AM, HeavenDuff wrote: Ok, I didnt said that they were competing with nu-metal bands, lets just say, that they are still a very good band and that their kind of music evolved to become a more agressive style of Metal, thats why the cd is named St. Anger !
Its very different, and its what I like about Metallica, they always bring news things to metal music.

mmm well i listened to St Anger again, and i admit it aint bad, but it just sounds too Nu Metal to me. I liked Kill Em All and Metallica a lot better. Still, Frantic and St Anger arent bad songs i like em.

At 8/25/05 03:14 AM, Murderd0ll wrote: SlipKnoT,
Iron Maiden,
Judas Priest,
Arch Enemy,
Murderdolls.^

Have a nice day ^^

2 metal bands in there, well, okay.

Anyway, I hate St. Anger. I never liked Metallica too much, they were a mediocre to pretty good thrash metal band in the 80s, they only hade one outstanding album, that was IMO ...And Justice For All.

I also tried to listen to St. Anger again, I listened to the whole "Some Kind of Monster" song and what a mess...this song is build upon 2 riffs in 9 minutes, and both riffs suck. Hetfield's vocals are laughable, the drums suck(they always did).

At 8/25/05 07:41 AM, Goatchrist wrote:

At 8/25/05 03:14 AM, Murderd0ll wrote: SlipKnoT,
Iron Maiden,
Judas Priest,
Arch Enemy,
Murderdolls.^

Have a nice day ^^

2 metal bands in there, well, okay.

*3 Metal bands of course, damnit

Anyone of you knows the band Vader? Their drummer died at age 35 a few days ago...possibly drug abuse

At 8/25/05 07:43 AM, Goatchrist wrote: Anyone of you knows the band Vader? Their drummer died at age 35 a few days ago...possibly drug abuse

Yea vader are awesome...thats pretty sad. It sucks that when great metal musicians die, no one hears about it, but when someone like britney spears breaks a nail the whole world are mourning her fucking nail like its worth something. Fuck i hate the media. But yeh if he was the drummer on 'Litany' i gotta say, fuck hes a good drummer.

Vader gave the ex-soviet blocs a metal background, and inspired 'Decaptitated' to enter the DM stage. It is sadning to hear of their loss. P.S Before some dumbass asks "Are they named after that guy from Star War?" YES they are, and it was originally just as a joke that got old, but catchy.

P.S I still like pre-meteora Linkin Park and Met's "St Anger". =P

Thanks for the let in, I'm sad that I missed Dimmu Borgir on my list, they were one of my first metal bands...

I agree that most artists feel they need to innovate over time to stay fresh and cool (and also to make money), and plenty of bands have done that. The difference is in quality.

For example, I like new Dark Tranquillity as much as I like thier old stuff.

Some things stay kind of the same, for example, Lamb of God (even though they are kinda new, they still put out 3-4 cds [depends on what you want to count] and all are similar but all are good)

Some bands get worse, and I think Metallica is one of them. St. Anger isnt complete trash, but it sounds nothing like the olden thrash metal of the 80's (aka the stuff I prefer) and it feels like an attempt to be more mainstream, just like the black album, except for worse.

The same reason is why I dont like new In Flames, it just isnt as good after Clayman.

Just my opinion.

I'm glad that I don't get wrapped up in these debates about which Metallica was good and which was bad. It all sucked! :D.

Perhaps sucked isn't the right word. A more PC way of putting it would be 'Metallica is not to my taste'.

I'm an extreme metal purist, and proud of it! ;D

At 8/25/05 07:41 AM, Goatchrist wrote: Anyway, I hate St. Anger. I never liked Metallica too much, they were a mediocre to pretty good thrash metal band in the 80s, they only hade one outstanding album, that was IMO ...And Justice For All.

That's my favorite album by anyone. Ever.

I also tried to listen to St. Anger again, I listened to the whole "Some Kind of Monster" song and what a mess...this song is build upon 2 riffs in 9 minutes, and both riffs suck. Hetfield's vocals are laughable, the drums suck(they always did).

Yeah, I hate that song. There's only about 1 or 2 songs on there that are O.K.

I find it cool that you guys don't list Master of Puppets as your fav Metallica album, that seems to be the most popular among the 80's cds.

BTW I was wondering also if you consider Machine Head to be metal or just hard rock.

I'm leaning toward metal because their first two (and newest) cds are classics in my opinion, but The Burning Red and Supercharger are kinda nu-metal crappyness. Does the bad outwiegh the good?

At 8/25/05 06:15 PM, X_Imperium_X wrote: I find it cool that you guys don't list Master of Puppets as your fav Metallica album, that seems to be the most popular among the 80's cds.

I think that MoP is the most overrated CD in MUSIC history, actually :P I mean, it's an OK thrash album, but nothing more. 1986 had WAY better releases(Pleasure to Kill, Darkness Descends, Obsessed By Cruelty, Eternal Devastation, for example)

BTW I was wondering also if you consider Machine Head to be metal or just hard rock.

I'm leaning toward metal because their first two (and newest) cds are classics in my opinion, but The Burning Red and Supercharger are kinda nu-metal crappyness. Does the bad outwiegh the good?

Well, their first two albums are are pretty good groove/half thrash IMO. The Burning Red and Supercharger are horrible releases and the newest ones is kinda a return to their older form. I'd classify them as metal, but they are not really my style.

I listen to brittany spears and backstreet boys but I think their older stuff is pretty hard core like the guitar is amazing but the vocals are awful. I also like other really good singers like Justin Timberlake, so .... can I join your club Because I love Metal Hell.

At 8/25/05 08:45 PM, Milqman wrote: I listen to brittany spears and backstreet boys but I think their older stuff is pretty hard core like the guitar is amazing but the vocals are awful. I also like other really good singers like Justin Timberlake, so .... can I join your club Because I love Metal Hell.

you fail at live.

At 8/25/05 09:19 PM, Goatchrist wrote:

At 8/25/05 08:45 PM, Milqman wrote: I listen to brittany spears and backstreet boys but I think their older stuff is pretty hard core like the guitar is amazing but the vocals are awful. I also like other really good singers like Justin Timberlake, so .... can I join your club Because I love Metal Hell.

you fail at live.

*living

Anyway, has anyone of you heard of "Torture Squad"? A very underrated and good Death/Thrash metal band from Brazil.

ok i think i no and like enough real metal bands to join now

atreyu
avenged 7x
bleeding through
cannibal corpse
CKY
coal chamber
cradle of filth
damage plan
fear factory
hatebreed
kittie
korn (nu-metal but w/e)
lamb of god
machine head
megadeth
motorhead
mudvayne
murderdolls
mushroomhead
NIN (industrial)
nothingface
refused
scars of life
slayer
slipknot (nu-metal idc they fuckin rock)
spread
static-x
system of a down

i hope that they qualify and that there is enough

Thanks Goatchrist, appreciate the reply...

I wanted to ask, anyone know any good "Melodic Death Metal/Gothenburg sound" bands that are...good but relatively unknown? I know (and love) all the popular ones, but I'm desperate for new (and good) music in that genre.

Thanks.

At 8/25/05 09:22 PM, Goatchrist wrote:
Anyway, has anyone of you heard of "Torture Squad"? A very underrated and good Death/Thrash metal band from Brazil.

no, the only metal band from Brazil is Soulfly

At 8/26/05 05:30 PM, Pickelson wrote:

At 8/25/05 09:22 PM, Goatchrist wrote:
Anyway, has anyone of you heard of "Torture Squad"? A very underrated and good Death/Thrash metal band from Brazil.

no, the only metal band from Brazil is Soulfly

And Sepultura.

hello can i join it sounds intresting so ill join this if i can

Hello, I am back at least even for now and making a comeback. Have you guys ever heard of Susperia they are pretty good and are very semi-Southern styled metal