At 7/21/09 01:03 AM, jew193 wrote: But also, that's why any band from a non english speaking country is amazing, because they're writing lyrics in their second or possibly third language. That's incredible

I never really understood that.

I know there are a lot of Jap bands that sing in Jap, and there are some folk bands that sing in their native languages but other than that why do all metal bands sing in english?

Not that i'm complaining, listening to the lyrics and deciphering their meabubg is one of the best parts of listening to a song.

At 7/21/09 01:08 AM, AniMetal wrote: I know there are a lot of Jap bands that sing in Jap, and there are some folk bands that sing in their native languages but other than that why do all metal bands sing in english?

English is more marketable, since it's a universal language. I guess English is the language of metal anyways, since it developed in the UK and was further developed by the USA (in general).

meabubg

what

Lyrics come last to me. If they're good, they make the music a bit better. If they're crap, you still have the delivery and the rest of the music there. I'm liking Acid Bath's lyrics. I always thought the lyrics on Black Clouds and Silver Linings were quite shitty, but reading them I found they're not that bad. James sings them in a way that makes them cheesey and cliche'. DT need a new singer, haha.

At 7/21/09 01:12 AM, D3NTATUS wrote: what

Wow what the fuck?

I have NO idea how that happened, I meant meanings.

Wow.

Also, again this band is great for you stoners, sludgers and progers.

And this song is absolutely AMAZING. I've listened to it about ten times today.

At 7/21/09 01:12 AM, D3NTATUS wrote:

meabubg

what

Meaning.

nin - move a step to the left on the keyboard - bub.

kik ur;a kujw a awxewr xisw,

Also, I have every Acid King album. Woot woot woot. Best female fronted band ever much?

At 7/21/09 01:14 AM, AniMetal wrote: Also, again this band is great for you stoners, sludgers and progers.

I already listened to that, I will be getting that album and hopefully their EP soon.

And this song is absolutely AMAZING. I've listened to it about ten times today.

Lol:

This record should have been two discs of fucking bad-ass metal shredding...instead, that fucking old fart redneck Jon Schaffer had to beat a bunch of flag-waving%uFEFF jingo horseshit into his dumbshit white trash audience, as if any of that fat, motorcycle-riding, dungeons-and-dragons-playing group of metalhead degenerates would ever quit their jobs at the Wawa, cancel their Warcraft accounts, and go to war in Iraq. Stick to singing songs about wizards and shit, you douchebags.

Pwnage. I'm not big on Iced Earth. In fact I already regret pausing Acid King to listen to three minutes of that.

At 7/21/09 01:25 AM, PenisClown wrote: I already listened to that, I will be getting that album and hopefully their EP soon.

Nice, how much does their album cost?

This record should have been two discs of fucking bad-ass metal shredding...instead, that fucking old fart redneck Jon Schaffer had to beat a bunch of flag-waving%uFEFF jingo horseshit into his dumbshit white trash audience, as if any of that fat, motorcycle-riding, dungeons-and-dragons-playing group of metalhead degenerates would ever quit their jobs at the Wawa, cancel their Warcraft accounts, and go to war in Iraq. Stick to singing songs about wizards and shit, you douchebags.

I noticed that. Ha

Pwnage. I'm not big on Iced Earth. In fact I already regret pausing Acid King to listen to three minutes of that.

I'm not either, the only Iced Earth album I really like to is The Glorious Burden. The rest of their music that i've heard is mih. Also I dislike Matt Barlow's voice outside of his work in Pyramaze.

Iced Earth are great live also.

And you can't forget how great Wizards & Demons are.

Other than that they are quite mih.

At 7/21/09 01:18 AM, PenisClown wrote: nin - move a step to the left on the keyboard - bub.

That explains it, I was so confused for a moment.

Hey PONOS, i'm curious: I know you like a lot of sludge, drone, stoner, etc. metal, Technical + Brutal death metal and you like a lot of the classic bands like Black Sabbath and Acid Bath and I know you despite the core genres and melodeath metal but what do you think of some other genres like the black metal genres, the grind genres, power metal, prog metal and thrash metal?

At 7/21/09 01:13 AM, PenisClown wrote: Lyrics come last to me. If they're good, they make the music a bit better.

I agree. Lyrics that flow really well are also a big draw.

If they're crap, you still have the delivery and the rest of the music there. I'm liking Acid Bath's lyrics. I always thought the lyrics on Black Clouds and Silver Linings were quite shitty, but reading them I found they're not that bad. James sings them in a way that makes them cheesey and cliche'. DT need a new singer, haha.

Dark Tranquillity? Or Dream Theater? Cuz Mikael Stanne is great, even if the lyrics make almost no sense.

At 7/21/09 01:31 AM, AniMetal wrote: Nice, how much does their album cost?

Oh sweet, dear innocent AniMetal.

Other than that they are quite mih.

Good to know, will continue not listening to them :D

Hey PONOS, i'm curious: I know you like a lot of sludge, drone, stoner, etc. metal, Technical + Brutal death metal and you like a lot of the classic bands like Black Sabbath and Acid Bath and I know you despite the core genres and melodeath metal but what do you think of some other genres like the black metal genres, the grind genres, power metal, prog metal and thrash metal?

My taste in bm is varied. I like raw, melodic, avant-garde, hellenic, folk and post. I listen to a lot of black metal bands, I was big into the early Norwegian stuff when I started but now I really dig avant-garde stuff like Arcturus and Solefald. Rotting Christ and Varathron I've been getting into recently, I always liked Vintersorg's stuff, and Borknagar. Dawn and Dissection are great too. After doom/sludge, black metal is my favourite genre.

Grind I don't give a lot of my listening time to, but I enjoy it when it's done well. I like the punk influence and the speed, it makes for some kick arse music. I havn't really listened to any cyber grind or anything though. I'm a Napalm Death fan, that's about it.

Thrash is where I started when it came to metal music, so yeah, that layed out the ground work. I'm not a huge fan today, but i listen to Destruction, Kreator, Megadeth, Metallica, Sodom, Macabre, Bathory, Celtic Frost. I like 80's thrash, I've been meaning to explore it a bit more but sometimes I just prefer listening to more musically diverse and complex metal.

Power metal I don't listen to because I kind of prefer the darker side of metal. Sure, I was a Dragonforce fan like three years ago but that's about it. I've never listened to Blind Gaurdian or Symphony X.

I listen to a lot of progressive bands though like Borknagar, Opeth, Dream Theater, Porcupine Tree, the Baroness album is pretty progressive, and so are Rwake. Isn't it true most prog metal is linked with power? Maybe that's why I don't listen to a lot of prog.

So yeah, help me out if you want AniMetal.

At 7/21/09 01:35 AM, jew193 wrote: Dark Tranquillity? Or Dream Theater? Cuz Mikael Stanne is great, even if the lyrics make almost no sense.

Yeah, I don't think Dark Tranquility are very good. Poppy melogay isn't it?

Bleed me an an ocean, bleed me an ocean tonight....

Triple post, fuck yeah. I got that Lesbian album, and there's no doom or sludge in it. I think the best way to describe it would be progressive death metal. I like it a lot though.

NOW the doom kicks in.

Don't worry, I'm fucking off now.

*Does not know anything about brokenCYDE and hopefully never will*

At 7/20/09 09:41 AM, Dr-Roxo wrote:

At 7/20/09 08:53 AM, Bahamut wrote: I remember listening to this ages ago, but couldn't get into it. Maybe now would be a good time to give them a second chance?

Nile is a bit overwhelming before you get used to them. But.. I suggest you don't listen to the song Sarcophagus first. I did, and I hated it, and for a while, I hated Nile. Then I listened to Execration Text and liked them. But, yeah.. Annihilation of the wicked is good.

Funny you mentioned Sarcophagus since I listened to that song the other week and was like "Eh." I'll see about giving Annihilation of the Wicked a second chance. :)

At 7/21/09 01:13 AM, PenisClown wrote: DT need a new singer, haha.

I beg to differ.

At 7/21/09 01:35 AM, jew193 wrote: I agree. Lyrics that flow really well are also a big draw.

Really? I think lyrics usually add a much more epic feel to a song.

I mean, I can't listen to ElvenKing. There instrumental is amazing and there vocals are good but the lyrics are so easy to understand from listening and they are downright HORRENDOUSLY out of place.

Like it'll be a happy speedy song and the lyrics will be about the Devil burning a village.

I mean, if songs follow this formula: Intro, Verse 1, Chrous X1, Verse 2, Chrous X2, Guitar/keyboard solos, Chrous X2/3, Extro.

Even though there are songs of that formula that work, a lot of time that is just annoying. Except in thrash metal, where it usually works itself out.

It's the same thing with lyrics to me.

Dark Tranquillity? Or Dream Theater? Cuz Mikael Stanne is great, even if the lyrics make almost no sense.

Oh jesus.

At 7/21/09 02:37 AM, PenisClown wrote: Oh sweet, dear innocent AniMetal.

Lol wut?

Good to know, will continue not listening to them :D

You should at least get that one album I said and should see them if they come on tour again. :P

After doom/sludge, black metal is my favourite genre.

Nice, i've been meaning to get into much more bands of those genres. I'd say Rotting Christ is my favorite black metal band and HoF is my favorite sludge. Recommandations of more stuff except the stuff you mentioned already would be nice. :)

I havn't really listened to any cyber grind or anything though. I'm a Napalm Death fan, that's about it.

Yeah, who doesn't love them? But don't get into cyber grind too much, besides awesome drums and bass everything about cyber grind sucks(Vocals, guitars and the lyrics, even if you don't care about them)

Thrash is where I started when it came to metal music, so yeah, that layed out the ground work. I'm not a huge fan today, but i listen to Destruction, Kreator, Megadeth, Metallica, Sodom, Macabre, Bathory, Celtic Frost. I like 80's thrash, I've been meaning to explore it a bit more but sometimes I just prefer listening to more musically diverse and complex metal.

Yeah, besides the big ten or so famous thrash metal bands almost all thrash metal bands are really unfamous and so sort of hard to find.

Power metal I don't listen to because I kind of prefer the darker side of metal.

There is plenty of 'dark' power metal in terms of instrumental and lyrics. And hell, even in vocals.

Sure, I was a Dragonforce fan like three years ago but that's about it.

Haha who wasn't?

I've never listened to Blind Gaurdian or Symphony X.

You don't like or you just haven't gotten around to it?

Blind Guardian
Symphony X

My favorite song by each of those bands, luckily for you they are musically complicated and really dark

I listen to a lot of progressive bands though like Borknagar, Opeth, Dream Theater, Porcupine Tree, the Baroness album is pretty progressive, and so are Rwake.

Isn't it true most prog metal is linked with power? Maybe that's why I don't listen to a lot of prog.

Mostly ALL prog metal bands aren't just prog, most prog bands are linked with at least one other genre.

But usually speaking, yes it is power metal.

So yeah, help me out if you want AniMetal.

I think you might like some bands like Wastefall, Beyond Twilight, Art 0f Simplicity, Zero Hour(New and old) and of course, you guessed it, symphony X(The Divine wings of Tragedy, The Odyssey and V are all great albums)

These are prog metal bands that are sort of powerie that are complicated, diverse and plenty of dark.

Yeah, I don't think Dark Tranquility are very good. Poppy melogay isn't it?

I think they're ok but it's hard for me to get into.

At 7/21/09 08:27 AM, Bahamut wrote: *Does not know anything about brokenCYDE and hopefully never will*

Sorry man, you're fucked like the rest of us.

Speaking of which, warp tour today with my girlfriend.

Oh god, besides a small handful of bands this show is going to kill me.

At 7/21/09 01:13 AM, PenisClown wrote: DT need a new singer, haha.

I beg to differ.

I beg to agree. In the 90's and hell even the early 2000's his voice was pretty likeable, since systematic chaos his voice has become really eew.

I think I would rather they got a new singer that sucked than keeping the old good singer until he fully sucked.

At 7/21/09 03:59 AM, PenisClown wrote: NOW the doom kicks in.

Don't worry, I'm fucking off now.

Oh jeeze.

brokeNCYDE - Freaxxx

At 7/21/09 01:25 AM, PenisClown wrote: Stick to singing songs about wizards and shit, you douchebags.

Amen.

I've always maintained that earlier Iced Earth was great and majority of the stuff after it was pretty trashy but after listening to Burnt Offerings on the way to work the other day I've decided they've always been pretty bad. There's so many throwaway riffs on that album it's ridiculous.

At 7/21/09 09:33 AM, TakeNoPrisoners wrote: I've always maintained that earlier Iced Earth was great and majority of the stuff after it was pretty trashy but after listening to Burnt Offerings on the way to work the other day I've decided they've always been pretty bad. There's so many throwaway riffs on that album it's ridiculous.

Agreed. Their rhythm guitarist is pretty great i'd say and I love "The Glorious Burden", but other than that Iced Earth's albums all suck.

But they're great live and again, Wizards & Demons FTW.

At 7/21/09 02:37 AM, PenisClown wrote: Thrash is where I started when it came to metal music, so yeah, that layed out the ground work. I'm not a huge fan today, but i listen to Destruction, Kreator

Kreator are coming to Australia in September :D

Will be an epic show.

At 7/21/09 02:37 AM, PenisClown wrote: Power metal I don't listen to

uh, slough feg?

At 7/21/09 01:08 AM, AniMetal wrote: I know there are a lot of Jap bands that sing in Jap, and there are some folk bands that sing in their native languages but other than that why do all metal bands sing in english?

The English speaking world invented Popular music. The Beatles, Elvis, Blues music, etc.
And Metal too, Led Zeppelin, Sabbath, Maiden.

It all either comes from the UK or US. So people in mainland Europe, Scandinavia who get into Popular music will have got in to it because of English speaking bands. So they'll have learnt that way.
Those who sing in their native tongue are just add their on patriotic touch or whatever.

Nick Cave & the Bad Seeds - The Weeping Song (Dig, Lazarus, Dig!!!)

Hey guys, been a while.

I really need to find some good black metal, doesn't have to be well known black metal either, but I'm in the mood for it, and I don't want to listen to Abigor, Burzum, or Gorgoroth right now.

At 7/21/09 01:33 PM, EpicFail wrote: Hey guys, been a while.

I really need to find some good black metal, doesn't have to be well known black metal either, but I'm in the mood for it, and I don't want to listen to Abigor, Burzum, or Gorgoroth right now.

Deathspell Omega
Ondskapt
Portal

At 7/21/09 01:33 PM, EpicFail wrote: I really need to find some good black metal, doesn't have to be well known black metal either, but I'm in the mood for it, and I don't want to listen to Abigor, Burzum, or Gorgoroth right now.

You have come to the right place.

Agatus
Rotting Christ
Mayhem
Bathory
Blut Aus Nord
Dark Forest
Dissection
Forgotten Woods
In the Woods...
Ulver's first and third albums
Gorgor- nevermind.
Immortal
Marduk
Peste Noire
Satyricon
Solefald (sort of)
Arcturus' first album (the rest is just sort of avant-garde, but good)
Summoning
Striborg
Windir
Xasthur

most of that isn't just straight up black metal, 'cause i like folk black and avant-garde black the most.

At 7/21/09 01:41 PM, D3NTATUS wrote: Good Black Metal list!

I'd also like to add Dark Fortress into that list.

At 7/21/09 01:33 PM, EpicFail wrote: Hey guys, been a while.

I really need to find some good black metal, doesn't have to be well known black metal either, but I'm in the mood for it, and I don't want to listen to Abigor, Burzum, or Gorgoroth right now.

1349
Diabolical Masqurade
Celtic Frost
Ragnarok
Old Mans Child
DarkThrone

Molest me of master smeagol please!!!!! I WANT YOU TO FUCKING DOMINATE ME!!!!!!

At 7/21/09 03:14 PM, Brass wrote: I'm into pretty much any kind of metal besides power metal.

AJDHUSDGHFSKJIFKSKJJD

Some of my favorites are Hypocrisy, Lamb of God, Devil Driver, Pantera and Overkill.

List five more bands please.

I really need some new stuff to listen to though, I haven't gotten a new album in a month and it's killing me.

You'll catch on soon enough.

At 7/21/09 03:22 PM, batman64 wrote: Nev, nice to see another Nick Cave fan.

Yeah, I listened to 'The Boatman's Call' a week or so ago and liked it but wasn't overly fussed. But I saw him on Sunday at Latitude festival and it was sooooo intense. I fell in love with him then :).
Sadly, his recordings are not as good as he is live.

Lesbian.
I like it.

I like lesbians too.

ABBA - Does Your Mother Know (ABBA Gold)

At 7/21/09 01:41 PM, D3NTATUS wrote: Summoning

Have you checked out Let Mortal Heroes Sing Your Fame yet? It's definitely their best so far.

At 7/21/09 03:47 PM, Brass wrote:

ALSO GREEN DAY

Last time i checked Green Day arent metal

At 7/21/09 04:04 PM, Trivium666 wrote: Last time i checked Green Day arent metal

It was a joke. Hence the all caps and the seperation from the rest of his list.
Come on, now.

At 7/21/09 01:33 PM, EpicFail wrote: Hey guys, been a while.

I really need to find some good black metal, doesn't have to be well known black metal either, but I'm in the mood for it, and I don't want to listen to Abigor, Burzum, or Gorgoroth right now.

Early Behemoth
1349
Portal

Shit I need more black metal.