At 3/18/09 11:16 PM, D3NTATUS wrote: I guess arguing against NS music makes me sort of a hypocrite, since I listen to anarchist and SXE and vegan folk-punk and shit. But I like their messages and stuff. I actually don't know where I'm going with this; if I'm super anti-fascist and such, wouldn't it make sense that I would not like NSBM?

If you're anti-Facscist sure.
I don't follow politics at all and to be honest and I don't give a shit about any political view. I follow my own morals.
All I understand of Fascism is the whole 'Perfect Race' thing. Besides that I haven't a clue.
And music is music. I think to ignore 'X' because they follow a different view to 'Y' is completely silly. The Allied forces were the enemy to the Nazi's and everyone has the right to their opinion and their right to express it.
I just see that as seperate from music. The music should be the focus. The politics can be person.

If that makes no sense, in my defense I'm drunk and typing coherantly is hard as hell.

There is, but I hate that part too. Fascism is pretty fucked up shit too, considering the people don't have a voice and the state has all the power.

I don't really believe that people have a voice in a democracy. The government will do what the government will do, whether one person shouts or a million people shout is inconsequential.

I don't know what that stance is called, but I'd like to know so I can Facebook it :P. Although 'Atmospherical Neo-Nazi' as it currently is makes me laugh :D.

I'm of the belief that you can't understand what most black metal vocalists are saying anyway, so whether they're NS or not matters not to me.

For example, I defy anybody to try and understand what the fuck the guy in Kataxu is saying. I just like the ethereal nature of Kataxu, it's great music to get lost in. I could care less what the fucker is saying, I just like the t00nz.

At 3/18/09 11:40 PM, ElGhoulio wrote: I'm of the belief that you can't understand what most black metal vocalists are saying anyway, so whether they're NS or not matters not to me.

My views on this debate, and all black metal in general.

At 3/18/09 11:40 PM, ElGhoulio wrote: I'm of the belief that you can't understand what most black metal vocalists are saying anyway, so whether they're NS or not matters not to me.

While thats a sensible point I think its an exception to the rule because of the truth behind it. No one whos intelligent listens to Anal Cunt and thinks 'Oh, they want to kill little children!' Its purely satirical, where as NSBM lacks that.

Guess who doesn't care either way...

At 3/18/09 11:37 PM, Nev wrote: All I understand of Fascism is the whole 'Perfect Race' thing. Besides that I haven't a clue.

I was gonna explain, but since you're drunk I'm not gonna bother :P

plus it's pretty hard to explain, and I'll only do it if you're really interested.

I don't really believe that people have a voice in a democracy. The government will do what the government will do, whether one person shouts or a million people shout is inconsequential.

In a Republic, yeah, but a democracy's whole point is that everyone has a voice :P We don't have true democracies though, so there goes that whole idea. I don't support democracies or republics though, 'cause i'm a radical and all.

At 3/18/09 11:46 PM, D3NTATUS wrote: I was gonna explain, but since you're drunk I'm not gonna bother :P
plus it's pretty hard to explain, and I'll only do it if you're really interested.

I am, so knock yourself out :). When I read it I'll be sober-er :P.

In a Republic, yeah, but a democracy's whole point is that everyone has a voice :P

But most of those voices will be ignored in favour of the majority.
I see democracy as a TV talent show. You could be Stephen Hawkins and vote for the true genius, but if enough of the fucking morons vote for the clichéd retard then the intelligent option is fucked.

At 3/18/09 11:53 PM, Nev wrote: I am, so knock yourself out :). When I read it I'll be sober-er :P.

I'll do it a bit later, but right now I'm tired. Here's the basic run-down. Fascism = one party rule, extremely powerful state, no form of voice whatsoever from the people, militaristic, imperialistic, pro-war, and often in favor of ethnic cleansing or ethnic/religious unity.

But most of those voices will be ignored in favour of the majority.

Exactly. this is called "tyranny of the majority." there was just a pretty good example a few months ago here in california; Proposition 8. If you haven't followed Californian politics, Prop 8 would ban gay marriage in the state of california by adding a sentence in the California constitution. Prop 8 passed by like a 4% margin. Now, tyranny of the majority fits in like so: why should the straights (the majority) decide for the gays (the minority) whether the gays could marry or not?

I see democracy as a TV talent show. You could be Stephen Hawkins and vote for the true genius, but if enough of the fucking morons vote for the clichéd retard then the intelligent option is fucked.

Basically. And America (and the world) happens to be full of retards :P

also, metal

At 3/18/09 07:57 PM, D3NTATUS wrote: Sense offender will back me up here, if he logs his ass on.

Yes. I will never allow myself to listen to NSBM.

Also Megadeth beats the crap out of Metallica musically.

Also on this whole Metallica v Megadeth debate, i recall a track in their 'Warchest' release, titled 'Keeping Score' where they're all talking about Countdown To Extinction, how soon hunters will only have one animal left, thats man, bla bla, then they get to a point where they say 'Sort of like the bands that are in front of us...there's only one left...*laughing*'

When i get the CD out of my car, ill put it here word for word.

i love Metallica and Megadeth equally.

More awesomeness. Seriously. She hits some ear-piercingly high screeches

Also, I'm starting a custom guitar business since I'm gonna have an ankle moniter (house arrest) on starting tommorrow.

Any requests? Starting price is 600 US dollars, done in 3 easy payments over paypal.

RAC = Rock Against Communism.

Blue Eyed Devils, Bully Boys, Celtic Cross, Agressiva 88, Pluton Svea, Stahlgewitter, Storm. Stuff like that.

dumb question, but that song "the metal" by tenacious D, is that a metal song, cause it has that mellow bit in the middle

At 3/19/09 02:15 AM, White-Ferret wrote: dumb question, but that song "the metal" by tenacious D, is that a metal song, cause it has that mellow bit in the middle

In a word, no

The heavy metal fans in here might like this band...

Loudness

They're one of the first metal bands I got into so I've got all kinds of nostalgic love for them. Great oldschool heavy metal. The singer maybe annoying at first but I'd say it's an acquired taste.

Please refrain from looking them up on Metal Archives. It's by far one of the worst band pictures ever taken.

At 3/19/09 01:32 AM, ElGhoulio wrote: Also, I'm starting a custom guitar business since I'm gonna have an ankle moniter (house arrest) on starting tommorrow.

Any requests? Starting price is 600 US dollars, done in 3 easy payments over paypal.

Wait, you know how to work with wood as well? Or am i thinking something different.

Also, holy fucking shit :( sirtom93 (unsure if this really is true or not, it seems pretty damn convincing), is getting done in for almost burning his school down.

The main thread, holy shit.

Topic with news clipping.

Full story.

Fuck, he was a cool dude, i wonder what drove him to do that?

Disclaimer: I in no way, had anything to do with this planning and such, i had no contact with him regarding the issue, and am in no way affiliated as stated many times, and am only providing this information for the sake of others who like me, discussed metal in this thread.

At 3/19/09 04:29 AM, SpeedMetalSandwich wrote: Also, holy fucking shit

Haha all of those links were darkened :P

He always seemed a little odd, but in that quirky different way.

His Communism ideologies were a bit strange though.

At 3/19/09 05:49 AM, Oppugnant wrote: He always seemed a little odd, but in that quirky different way.

This is true, when i first saw his sig when he changed it to the date and time and all that, and put it together with the Doom discussion he had going, i thought to myself 'na, don't be a stereotypical asshat'.

Guess i may have been wrong to an extent.

Turns out being sick is good for something.

At 3/19/09 04:29 AM, SpeedMetalSandwich wrote: Fuck, he was a cool dude, i wonder what drove him to do that?

shit whoah. that's pretty disturbing.

Thats messed up. Considering he's a member of this place though he should have gone for a church :P.

At 3/18/09 01:57 PM, ElGhoulio wrote: That's my favorite Megadeth album. Holy Wars, Hangar 18, and Tornado of Souls kick unholy amounts of ass.

No doubt about it.

At 3/18/09 02:42 PM, greensucksbluerules wrote: Also stay away from the albums that don't feature Dave Lombardo on drums.

Haha, not a problem for me. The only other two Slayer albums I plan to get whenever I feel like it are Show No Mercy and Hell Awaits.

At 3/18/09 10:47 PM, AllMightyBruce wrote: Except me. I never got any word back from any mod I contacted.

It's a shame, but I shouldn't be surprised since I've seen Last.fm being biased cunts many times before. They've even taken a shit on me by removing all artist shoutbox comments I ever made, just for saying something about Trivium having their album covers messed up on there.

At 3/18/09 11:12 PM, Nev wrote:

At 3/18/09 07:53 PM, Oppugnant wrote: But if you just listen for the music then what's the problem?
There's some very good (musically) NSBM.

I just wanted to disagree with Bahamut. We have a love/hate relationship.

lmao

At 3/19/09 04:29 AM, SpeedMetalSandwich wrote: Fuck, he was a cool dude, i wonder what drove him to do that?

I knew something wasn't right about his UK Firearms club. Up until he was talking about this crap, I thought he was a fine poster.

At 3/19/09 04:29 AM, SpeedMetalSandwich wrote: sirtom93
almost burning his school down.

That is fucked.

At 3/19/09 04:29 AM, SpeedMetalSandwich wrote: sirtom93
almost burning his school down.

I hope he is ok.

I liked him. :(

If this is one time where I truely hope this was a joke and that news story wasn't about sirtom.

You know, I hope the media doesn't try and link Metal with sirtom's recent escapade, somehow.

At 3/19/09 03:39 PM, AniMetal wrote: If this is one time where I truely hope this was a joke and that news story wasn't about sirtom.

It was.

Sirtom has been in custody since Tuesday.

The real shitty part about this whole thing is that because of him, cops may be reading through this thread right now.

At 3/19/09 04:35 PM, GoryBlizzard wrote: The real shitty part about this whole thing is that because of him, cops may be reading through this thread right now.

Hi :D.

At 3/19/09 04:38 PM, Nev wrote: Hi :D.

Don't try to make me any more paranoid than I already am right now, all right?