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PhantomWatcher
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Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2019-09-15 10:01:22 (edited 2019-09-15 10:06:42)

At 9/14/19 08:55 PM, NeonSpider wrote:
At 9/14/19 08:26 AM, PhantomWatcher wrote://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/550407

The game doesn't play past a certain point anymore due to file size, so people who played it while it was still working suddenly find the remainder of the medals unwinnable.

You sure it's not just game bugs? That game has a lot of them. See my review of the game for example. Every medal was obtainable then and I see no reason that's not still the case.

Or in other words you might have to reload it and try again several times before certain things work as they should. As the game can get hung or stuck, particularly at the wolf part.

Why do you conclude this is "due to file size"? If the game loads and plays then it's not "due to file size". Maybe you have something misconfigured in your browser? Maybe try another browser?

While it would be ideal if games didn't have bugs, that's not the case, and as far as Newgrounds considering medals broken, they must be permanently broken, not merely buggy or only award sometimes but not other times. Users are required to go through all the workarounds first.


No, it might not be due to file size, I got that from one of the comments on the game from those which were experiencing the same problem as me. Several people are experiencing the same thing I am.

I also played it while it was still working all to the end a year or so ago but now it doesn't go past a certain point close to the beginning of the game.You can play up until the end of fhe tree kitchen but getting past that point is impossible now. Which means you can get several of the early medals but none of the later ones.


I've also reloaded and tried the game several times, but the result hasn't changed.

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PhantomWatcher
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Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2019-09-15 10:03:02 (edited 2019-09-15 10:05:17)

At 9/14/19 09:37 PM, NeonSpider wrote:
At 9/14/19 08:26 AM, PhantomWatcher wrote://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/550407

The game doesn't play past a certain point anymore due to file size, so people who played it while it was still working suddenly find the remainder of the medals unwinnable.

The game does seem to be broken another way though, unless it works for someone?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_AFayRrtlo
Around the 3 minutes mark if you follow this you're supposed to end up in a room with the dead tree thing, and entering from the left, and you're then supposed to break off his claw to use as a weapon.

Instead what happens (tested on both recent Chrome and Firefox) is you enter that room from the right, for some reason your brother is already in that room playing with the dead guy (if you'll notice in the walkthrough your brother is not in that room), and you can't move or do anything.

But that certainly has nothing to do with the game's filesize.

If this is the case (and other people need to test to see if they can get past that part), then every medal except Got Wood?, Saviour, Sorceress, and Holy Shhhhhh are now broken.

You'll need to start a new game and not continue from whatever saved game to test this.


I don't know if it's a bug as it stops at this point each time, and you are unable to move gretel using either the wasd keys or the directional keys, hansel also didn't used to be there the first time I played.


iu_55235_4345716.jpg


Either way, there's definitely no way to get past this point and get the rest of the medals. Which is why I thought this would be the best thread to put it in.

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Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2019-09-16 09:45:25

At 9/15/19 10:03 AM, PhantomWatcher wrote:Either way, there's definitely no way to get past this point and get the rest of the medals. Which is why I thought this would be the best thread to put it in.


I emailed Mako about this to see if he has any ideas. Wondering if something there is waiting on an HTTP request before proceeding, which could break when the page is now HTTPS.

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HerbieG
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Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2019-09-16 12:08:56

At 9/16/19 09:45 AM, TomFulp wrote:
At 9/15/19 10:03 AM, PhantomWatcher wrote:Either way, there's definitely no way to get past this point and get the rest of the medals. Which is why I thought this would be the best thread to put it in.

I emailed Mako about this to see if he has any ideas. Wondering if something there is waiting on an HTTP request before proceeding, which could break when the page is now HTTPS.


I checked the last unlocks of all medals and most of them stopped working on September 2017 which marks the time when NG switched to https. Maybe we could try moving the game to http to see what would it change? On the other hand it would be the first case when some of the medals work under https and some other not. Anyway, worth a try.

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Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2019-09-16 14:40:06

At 9/16/19 12:08 PM, HerbieG wrote:
At 9/16/19 09:45 AM, TomFulp wrote:
At 9/15/19 10:03 AM, PhantomWatcher wrote:Either way, there's definitely no way to get past this point and get the rest of the medals. Which is why I thought this would be the best thread to put it in.

I emailed Mako about this to see if he has any ideas. Wondering if something there is waiting on an HTTP request before proceeding, which could break when the page is now HTTPS.

I checked the last unlocks of all medals and most of them stopped working on September 2017 which marks the time when NG switched to https. Maybe we could try moving the game to http to see what would it change? On the other hand it would be the first case when some of the medals work under https and some other not. Anyway, worth a try.


Good news! I just unlocked the Gut busting medal (with the test account) that hasn't been unlocked for 2 years, so I presume that the other medals work as well.

Русский военный корабль, иди нахуй!

And release [the Leopards-done] ATACMS & F-16s!

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TomFulp
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Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2019-09-16 14:46:27

At 9/16/19 02:40 PM, HerbieG wrote:
At 9/16/19 12:08 PM, HerbieG wrote:
At 9/16/19 09:45 AM, TomFulp wrote:
At 9/15/19 10:03 AM, PhantomWatcher wrote:Either way, there's definitely no way to get past this point and get the rest of the medals. Which is why I thought this would be the best thread to put it in.

I emailed Mako about this to see if he has any ideas. Wondering if something there is waiting on an HTTP request before proceeding, which could break when the page is now HTTPS.

I checked the last unlocks of all medals and most of them stopped working on September 2017 which marks the time when NG switched to https. Maybe we could try moving the game to http to see what would it change? On the other hand it would be the first case when some of the medals work under https and some other not. Anyway, worth a try.

Good news! I just unlocked the Gut busting medal (with the test account) that hasn't been unlocked for 2 years, so I presume that the other medals work as well.


Cool - that was after the HTTP switch right? Guess that was the issue.

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Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2019-09-16 14:48:08

At 9/16/19 02:46 PM, TomFulp wrote:

that the other medals work as well.


Cool - that was after the HTTP switch right? Guess that was the issue.


Yup! I only got no idea why few of the medals worked under https while all others did not.

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MeGa-wise
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Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2019-10-06 05:11:48

Africa Dudes



This movie has medals, but I do not get them. Do they not work or am I doing something wrong?

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HerbieG
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Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2019-10-06 08:22:06

At 10/6/19 05:11 AM, MeGa-wise wrote:Africa Dudes

//www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/551252

This movie has medals, but I do not get them. Do they not work or am I doing something wrong?


You watched everything to the very end, without skipping anything?

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Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2019-10-06 08:42:32

At 10/6/19 08:22 AM, HerbieG wrote:
At 10/6/19 05:11 AM, MeGa-wise wrote:Africa Dudes

//www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/551252

This movie has medals, but I do not get them. Do they not work or am I doing something wrong?

You watched everything to the very end, without skipping anything?


Sure.

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HerbieG
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Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2019-10-06 09:18:12

At 10/6/19 08:42 AM, MeGa-wise wrote:
At 10/6/19 08:22 AM, HerbieG wrote:
At 10/6/19 05:11 AM, MeGa-wise wrote:Africa Dudes

//www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/551252

This movie has medals, but I do not get them. Do they not work or am I doing something wrong?

You watched everything to the very end, without skipping anything?

Sure.


@Stamper - can the medals work in this mode?

@TomFulp - what do you think?

And - I just have to - where, oh where is the FULL Version?

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Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2019-10-07 11:03:30

At 10/6/19 08:22 AM, HerbieG wrote:
At 10/6/19 05:11 AM, MeGa-wise wrote:Africa Dudes

//www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/551252

This movie has medals, but I do not get them. Do they not work or am I doing something wrong?

You watched everything to the very end, without skipping anything?


I got all of the medals on that, but it was 10 years ago. Looks like several people have unlocked the medals within the last several months as well.


So if something happened it must have been pretty recently. For the last medal you have to watch it through twice without skipping?

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HerbieG
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Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2019-10-07 12:53:32

At 10/7/19 11:03 AM, Fro wrote:
At 10/6/19 08:22 AM, HerbieG wrote:
At 10/6/19 05:11 AM, MeGa-wise wrote:Africa Dudes

//www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/551252

This movie has medals, but I do not get them. Do they not work or am I doing something wrong?

You watched everything to the very end, without skipping anything?

I got all of the medals on that, but it was 10 years ago. Looks like several people have unlocked the medals within the last several months as well.

So if something happened it must have been pretty recently. For the last medal you have to watch it through twice without skipping?


The problem is that the earlier, longer version that lasted some 15-20 minutes was a flash version, obviously with the medals code included. Now, the shorter one is being played as a simple video, so it may even not trigger the medals.


The "Default to original Flash version of movies when available" option also does not help since the original version does not exist anymore.


Back then, when the flash version was there if not skipped or closed it was just continuing playing after it finished for the first time, currently there even is no way for the animation to count how many times it was played.

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NeonSpider
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Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2019-10-24 19:00:09


Hell's Wheels medal does indeed appear to be broken, as @blyndid writes in his review and in my own testing.


What *should* award it is any of the following (among other possible combinations)

1 drug and 3rd death on precisely 660

10 drugs and 3rd death on precisely 606

100 drugs and 3rd death on precisely 333


I've tested the 1st and 3rd of those (actually did the 3rd first, and when that didn't work, tried with EXACTLY 1). Refreshed and retried several times. No medal awarded.


It's hard enough to do I'm not even sure who all (other than myself and @blyndid) can even verify this one. Many times hitting on final score of 665 or 667 as I was 1 off and you do have to get it EXACTLY.


Also you're wrong @HerbieG in saying the game has no skill. The game is mostly skill, although there is also a luck component. But this exact one medal appears to be broken, unless someone else with the skills can make it work for them. Didn't work for me or @blyndid.

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Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2019-10-25 23:10:12


Forgive me if someone has beaten me to this one but theres a few medals that dont unlock in this one, details in my review.

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Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2019-10-25 23:11:16

At 10/6/19 05:11 AM, MeGa-wise wrote:Africa Dudes

//www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/551252

This movie has medals, but I do not get them. Do they not work or am I doing something wrong?


Didnt work for me either.

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MeGa-wise
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Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2019-11-07 19:19:01


This game has only one medal working, rest are broken.

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Fro
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Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2019-11-08 14:23:31

At 11/7/19 07:19 PM, MeGa-wise wrote://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/618903

This game has only one medal working, rest are broken.


I played through the entire game, didn't get any of the medals except for the one, but once I reloaded the game again all of the medals appeared and are working fine.

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Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2019-11-08 15:21:03

At 11/8/19 02:23 PM, Fro wrote:
At 11/7/19 07:19 PM, MeGa-wise wrote://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/618903

This game has only one medal working, rest are broken.

I played through the entire game, didn't get any of the medals except for the one, but once I reloaded the game again all of the medals appeared and are working fine.


Indeed, worked for me this time. Thank you Fro.


It's strange because a few months ago when I played this for first time it didn't work. Maybe it has been silently fixed or updated in that time.

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Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2019-11-09 01:15:16 (edited 2019-11-09 01:17:49)

fast runner medal has always been broken

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Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2019-11-11 16:39:08

The game freezes when you complete the first puzzle, which is when the first medal is supposed to unlock. No person has unlocked a medal since September 2017, so it may be a HTTP issue.

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Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2019-11-11 16:46:08

At 11/11/19 04:39 PM, OneThousandMeeps wrote://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/657125
The game freezes when you complete the first puzzle, which is when the first medal is supposed to unlock. No person has unlocked a medal since September 2017, so it may be a HTTP issue.


I've changed it to HTTP to try out.

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Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2019-11-11 17:02:38

At 11/11/19 04:46 PM, TomFulp wrote:
At 11/11/19 04:39 PM, OneThousandMeeps wrote://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/657125
The game freezes when you complete the first puzzle, which is when the first medal is supposed to unlock. No person has unlocked a medal since September 2017, so it may be a HTTP issue.

I've changed it to HTTP to try out.

It seems to work now, thank you!

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Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2019-11-13 08:11:48

At 11/9/19 01:15 AM, blyndid wrote://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/654814
fast runner medal has always been broken


Are you sure?


I was always under the impression you had to survive for a loooooong time before you got that one, and no one has survived long enough. Longer than for the 500 medal, even. I'm really not sure for how long. Also I assume sliding counts as slowing you down.


Just because no one has a medal doesn't necessarily mean it's broken (although it can be an indicator of likeliness).


There are old games which had 0 point medals for the longest time, and which I or another high-ranking medal earner was the first to unlock and then boom. (It didn't help that for the longest time any 0 point medals weren't visible to players, thus you couldn't even know if there were additional medals to even try for).

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Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2019-11-22 08:03:36


An old one but still has MY RANK! as a broken medal. All other medals work.


Yes the game freezes if you ever fall in the pit, but if you can avoid doing that for a while you can get everything else.


The game originally had leaderboards and high score table and MY RANK! was awarded for getting on there. The game no longer has any leaderboards or recording of high scores, so has been a broken medal for a very long time now.

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Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2019-11-27 17:51:51

Like other games with HTTP problems, this game freezes whenever a medal is supposed to unlock.

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Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2019-11-27 17:53:04

At 11/27/19 05:51 PM, OneThousandMeeps wrote://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/672035
Like other games with HTTP problems, this game freezes whenever a medal is supposed to unlock.


I set it to run over HTTP.

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Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2019-11-27 22:07:39


Clan Wars 2 Red Reign


So the problem is the game author thought they would do a "clever" trick of lock you out of "bonus" content without a code supposedly obtainable from their website. Several problems with this.


Two medals, Demon Rise and Undead Knights are not obtainable without that code. You are locked out of playing those two stages.


The site itself no longer gives out the code and someone asked on the external site the game links to back in January 2019 and the game author said they would upload a version without the lockout, but it's December 2019 and the lockout version is the only one on Newgrounds. Perhaps they meant they would upload it to their own site (but not Newgrounds).


From reading the comments on Newgrounds, it seems that during the time when this process was working, one had to click the bonus content link in-game and follow the link to the external website, and from there one had to do some sort of survey in order to get such a code.


So the short of it is, unless anyone has and wishes to divulge what that unlock code is (and actually works), then both Demon Rise and Undead Knights medals should be considered to be broken and should be removed.


Google searches for it yield nothing useful other than the fact others have been searching for this exact same thing.

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Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2019-11-27 22:21:47


Likely needs to be set to HTTP


The in-game error is "It looks like Susie and Giles are asleep at Dictionary Corner."


Game is still playable, and some (but not all) medals still earnable, but this will severely restrict the total number of points that may be obtained, making some medals no longer earnable.


Assumption is it needs to connect to an external website (which likely uses HTTP) for some kind of validation and because it can't, you get that error.

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Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2019-11-28 11:29:17

At 11/27/19 10:21 PM, NeonSpider wrote://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/608812

Likely needs to be set to HTTP


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