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Official Broken Medals Thread

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Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2018-05-10 08:29:07


At 5/9/18 10:22 PM, Bobogoobo wrote:

Few comments so far:

1. DeathTiger0 games: I got in touch with Carmel Games, they know about the issue and will be trying to fix this, but they need some time to do this. By the way: NeonSpider's theory was mostly correct.
2. The Silver Nugget - the author checked the game and is unable to fix it because of the changes made by YouTube, I wrote him to unsubmit it.
3. As for the Ederon case: since it already became visible - this problem arose when Newgrounds was moved to its "live" version from the static one. It caused a bit of a mess with the API moderators tools. This is why I am currently not removing broken medals - to not to risk causing even more mess with medal stats. The current main problem is that when all the medals are removed the API moderators lose any access to the medals' menu of the game, so no fixes can be made. This requires an update from @TomFulp


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Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2018-05-14 13:09:46


Optimos(

https://optimos.newgrounds.com)

pointed out some medal issues regarding L1,L2,L3 and L4. The medals have been fixed and the new version has been uploaded. I have also added a simple stats tracker on the main screen. I am also adding a scoreboard for average time taken to solve a puzzle for healthy competition of course and bragging rights. Your score will be automatically uploaded once you solve all 40 of the puzzles. Go Ahead and get those medals.

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Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2018-05-15 04:14:40


At 5/9/18 10:22 PM, Bobogoobo wrote: ^ Reported by NeonSpider - I've never played a Resident Evil game so didn't spend the time to test if it's still broken. Not switched to HTTP yet, so probably is.

I haven't played any Resident Evil games either, but that particular quiz game can be done with patience, trial-and-error. It's pretty much how I've done all the various inane quiz games, unless I found a walkthrough with the answers outright.

That one mixes up and some questions can differ, but I made it through a round where all the answers I gave were correct, and my reward was game freeze instead of medal. Not a fun one to retry until there's a guarantee such medal works either.


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Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2018-05-19 23:40:17


Here is an example of a game which might appear to have broken medals but in fact does not. Check my comment on the game itself to see how to obtain the medals.

This is what I mean by sometimes people are a bit quick to report things as broken because, while yes the medals don't work as they should, they are still obtainable. And simply sometimes people don't read the comments or try enough things before assuming medals are permanently broken.

Specifically, if I notice some problems in obtaining some particular medal(s) in a game, it's not unusual for me to leave a comment to help other people if they read through the comments section of the games.

Again, there is also the unawarded medals section on my profile, where I keep track of individual medals or games I have earned but which the game failed to award. I don't report everything there in this thread, and I actually don't report every unawarded medal there either as editing the newsposts on Newgrounds is annoying. In some cases the medals are buggy, but can be obtained later. I recommend other people also keep similar newsposts if they want to keep track of that sort of thing.

I only report things in this thread if I'm fairly certain not only it didn't award, but it'll never award.

Speaking of which, the Space Manager game has failed to award me the "Space tycoon 500M" medal despite it generally awarding unawarded medals upon reloading the game and letting it run about 10 or 15 minutes or so. Does this mean that medal is broken? I do not assume that yet because it's possible it might award at the same time when I earn the "Space tycoon 750M" medal. I quite simply do not know yet.

However it's highly likely the "Space tycoon" medal in Space Manager is broken as it's the one medal more people have than any other medal, yet hasn't been earned for years. I assume it was probably supposed to award merely for playing the game, but since the medals aren't really descriptive, there is no real way to verify if that's the case or not.


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Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2018-05-21 10:26:13


The "Space tycoon 500M" medal from my last post is a great example of my point made in the last post about not being too quick to write off a medal as permanently broken. Remember I mentioned in that post that, while it had not awarded despite having met requirements for a while, I still would hold off in calling it permanently broken.

Well I left the game running overnight and find that I now have that medal. It finally awarded at some point while I was asleep.


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Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2018-05-25 02:09:18


This game's medals did not work for me; the last earned dates make it look like an HTTPS problem.


See my news post with medal hunting links and tools. I made a program NGMedals that finds your statistics and unearned medals.

There is also a browser script.

Maintainer of the Top Medal Point Users List and API Mod - feel free to PM with any issues.

Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2018-05-25 21:19:43


War of the Web

This appears to be a multiplayer online game of sorts. Except it never connects to whatever server is required. The game is dead. You just have an infinitely spinning "Updating" as well as "Couldn't get permission to connect to server."

Most likely wherever this was hosted is no longer running the server required for this game to work.

As such, all medals in this game are now permanently broken.


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"Trapped in Space" - Game has been removed, the medals remain. Here's the user where I found them.

https://whileworking.newgrounds.com/stats/medals?compare=33310


See my news post with medal hunting links and tools. I made a program NGMedals that finds your statistics and unearned medals.

There is also a browser script.

Maintainer of the Top Medal Point Users List and API Mod - feel free to PM with any issues.

Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2018-05-27 11:19:40


At 5/25/18 09:22 PM, Bobogoobo wrote: http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/622014
"Trapped in Space" - Game has been removed, the medals remain. Here's the user where I found them.
https://whileworking.newgrounds.com/stats/medals?compare=33310

Disabling medals now, let me know if you still see them later today.


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Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2018-05-28 13:08:44


Is any one able to access this game?

Kind of a weird error I'm getting when trying to load the game.

Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2018-05-28 18:54:55


At 5/27/18 11:19 AM, TomFulp wrote:
At 5/25/18 09:22 PM, Bobogoobo wrote: http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/622014
"Trapped in Space" - Game has been removed, the medals remain. Here's the user where I found them.
https://whileworking.newgrounds.com/stats/medals?compare=33310
Disabling medals now, let me know if you still see them later today.

It looks like they are still showing up, with point values.

Here is another set of medals with the same issue:

"mario save the world" - found

here


See my news post with medal hunting links and tools. I made a program NGMedals that finds your statistics and unearned medals.

There is also a browser script.

Maintainer of the Top Medal Point Users List and API Mod - feel free to PM with any issues.

Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2018-05-28 19:22:44


At 5/28/18 01:08 PM, SLjimbolian wrote: http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/656942
Is any one able to access this game?

Kind of a weird error I'm getting when trying to load the game.

Doesn't work for me either. I get the same error with this game:


See my news post with medal hunting links and tools. I made a program NGMedals that finds your statistics and unearned medals.

There is also a browser script.

Maintainer of the Top Medal Point Users List and API Mod - feel free to PM with any issues.

Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2018-05-29 00:22:37


@SLjimbolian @Bobogoobo

That's because those are games which require the Unity Webplayer plugin in order to work.

If you don't have that plugin (for example, it doesn't exist for your system or you can't get the thing installed) you will instead get that error message.

Personally I think they should force all the games that require that plugin to convert to HTML5 format as Unity allows you to export to this format anyway. There is no good reason to force usage of the Unity Webplayer plugin.

There are several more games which also are like that.


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Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2018-05-30 08:21:11


At 5/29/18 12:22 AM, NeonSpider wrote: That's because those are games which require the Unity Webplayer plugin in order to work.

If you don't have that plugin you will instead get that error message.

Personally I think they should force all the games that require that plugin to convert to HTML5 format as Unity allows you to export to this format anyway. There is no good reason to force usage of the Unity Webplayer plugin.

I 100% agree with you. All of those games should be be converted. That way everybody has a fair and equal chance to play them and earn the medals.

There are several more games which also are like that.

A list could be made. That way they could all be converted at once. Would make it easier that way.


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Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2018-05-30 16:09:36


At 5/30/18 08:21 AM, DoctorStrongbad wrote: A list could be made. That way they could all be converted at once. Would make it easier that way.

I mean, not like I haven't asked for games to be searchable based on platform (Flash, HTML5, Unity Webplayer) at various times in the past, and no one ever implemented that.

It's going to be very difficult for anyone other than staff to make such a list comprehensive. It would not have been difficult for staff to implement my suggestion of allowing sorting options based on platform back at the time I suggested that. In fact it would have been trivially easy for them to do this back then but they did not.

At present it may even be difficult for staff to find this information easily, short of running some script for hours or days going through *all* the submissions and flagging the ones using Unity Webplayer.

All I can do is give good advice. I can't make people take that advice.


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All medals except the secret medal are broken for me because the game literally freezes whenever the timer runs out, on both Firefox and Chrome. Can anyone play this without that happening?

Because of this, Highest Score, Max Height, Games Played, and Points Scored are permanently stuck at 0. Max Combo is permanently stuck at 1. Scoring Average is permanently stuck at nothing displayed at all. The only stat that increases is Baskets Scored, but no medals use that stat.

Since all other medals except the secret medal require that the game not freeze on you once the timer expires, they're all broken.


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Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2018-06-01 23:40:24


"Master Ball" (complete level 8) seems to be broken, I completed level 8 and the author is the only person to ever earn it. (Also "Pokemon Master" awards to everyone, but I won't complain about a free 100 points.)


See my news post with medal hunting links and tools. I made a program NGMedals that finds your statistics and unearned medals.

There is also a browser script.

Maintainer of the Top Medal Point Users List and API Mod - feel free to PM with any issues.

Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2018-06-05 22:19:30


and

Both need to be set to http

Most of Jupitron's medal games have been set to http but seems those two were missed. They both freeze upon earning a medal. All of his medal games (not just most) should be http.


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Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2018-06-06 00:21:46


This game has plenty of medals that do not work. They used to work at one time, but can no longer be earned. I have written the author twice, but have never had a response.


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Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2018-06-06 18:59:36


Also this game has had broken medals for way too long. Literally years!

All the medals Kitsukage mentions as being broken are broken, and he wrote that review back in 2015.

To give an easy list I'll repeat his list here:
Staff Of Ages
Well Done Warrior
Speedy
Cyclops Down
Mutated
Pay Up
Wrong Hole
Burn, Baby, Burn!
Let There Be Light
and also most likely Rick Roll'd is also broken

How can most of those be proven to be broken when they are mostly secret medals? Because of the youtube walkthrough where someone earns all those medals of course! The walkthrough linked in the author comments for the game itself. The only medal in question is Rick Roll'd as it's not featured in the walkthrough, but the only earns are pre-2014, and sometime in 2014 or possibly 2013 is when all those other medals break. We can be reasonably sure Rick Roll'd is probably broken too or at least a good chance it's broken given the extent of medal breakage in this game.

So you can do the same things to earn the medals and no medals. If I was to guess probably the author broke those medals in one of the several updates to the game, so the only people having those medals would be early earners back in 2013 or earlier only! Note there are a couple of documented edits to the game in 2013 and then several edits in 2014 so most likely one or more of the 2014 edits broke the medals.


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Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2018-06-15 22:16:14


At 6/15/18 12:25 PM, RightTime wrote: The medals are working now.

Yeah usually it's better to wait a while before reporting. Very frequently new games will have broken medals for a week or sometimes a month or so before they naturally get fixed and the developer is already aware and working to fix them.

I would say it's probably best not to list games that are just brand spanking new.

Instead PM the developer in those cases.


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Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2018-06-20 03:18:37


At 6/16/18 06:55 PM, NeonSpider wrote: http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/650231
This game doesn't seem to be awarding any medals

I tried it on IE, firefox and chrome and did not receive any medals.


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Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2018-06-20 13:17:25


This should not belong on the medals list. All the medals are broken and quite frankly, the game itself is broken.

Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2018-06-20 14:16:05


At 6/20/18 01:17 PM, SLjimbolian wrote: http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/712790
This should not belong on the medals list. All the medals are broken and quite frankly, the game itself is broken.

I agree with you, and the medals are all zero points. It should be removed from the medal list until it is corrected.


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Game immediately freezes on the first level. Tested it on Chrome/Firefox; same results. IE is no better as it doesn't even load.

Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2018-06-25 15:04:41


At 4/30/18 09:38 AM, TomFulp wrote:
At 4/29/18 01:08 AM, NeonSpider wrote: http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/652394
Likely needs to be moved over to HTTP.

Once you complete 5 levels, rather than award a medal the game freezes. This is the first medal in the game. Also if you replay it after that freezing, you get awful sound from your speakers and black screen unless you clear cache.
I think cases like this are when games are using Nutcasenightmare's javascript port of our original API. It depends on a third party server that only allows so many free requests per month, at which point the requests stop working. It would be ideal to get all these games ported over to newgrounds.io but that is unlikely.

Refreshing the subject of this game: I earned the medal for finishing 5 levels 3 years ago, today I finished level 11, but when I reached the green square the level did not end and the medal did not pop up. Instead the game froze and now it became unplayable for me since even in the insecure view the game is loading, but is failing to start.


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Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2018-06-26 01:52:06


One thing I've been noticing lately is the Newgrounds medals connection has been behaving extra buggy. There's been quite a few games where, if I let it load then play the game, no medals, but if I reload the page after that and replay, then I can obtain medals.

So really you almost have to let a game load to 100%, then reload the page, *then* actually play the game or the Newgrounds medals connection is just acting way too flaky if you don't. Anyone else noticing this as of late?

Certainly won't help in cases of games where the medals fully are broken, but may help avoid some unnecessary annoying replaying to an extent.

Certainly not as much of an issue in the games which let you resubmit medals, but unfortunately there are plenty of games which don't and many of those where you'd need to clear cache to try again.


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-edit-

Disregard. I see I've already posted about Fatal Virility being removed but medals remaining. The medals are still there though, so they still need removal.


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Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2018-06-29 03:21:11


At 6/26/18 01:52 AM, NeonSpider wrote: One thing I've been noticing lately is the Newgrounds medals connection has been behaving extra buggy. There's been quite a few games where, if I let it load then play the game, no medals, but if I reload the page after that and replay, then I can obtain medals.

I have also noticed it. Was there a recent update that caused it?

So really you almost have to let a game load to 100%, then reload the page, *then* actually play the game or the Newgrounds medals connection is just acting way too flaky if you don't. Anyone else noticing this as of late?

Yes, it can be a pain. Some games I have to reload three times just to play it.

Certainly not as much of an issue in the games which let you resubmit medals, but unfortunately there are plenty of games which don't and many of those where you'd need to clear cache to try again.

All games should be required to have the resubmit medal function, but that is a conversation for a different topic.


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