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Official Broken Medals Thread

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Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2018-05-27 11:19:40


At 5/25/18 09:22 PM, Bobogoobo wrote: http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/622014
"Trapped in Space" - Game has been removed, the medals remain. Here's the user where I found them.
https://whileworking.newgrounds.com/stats/medals?compare=33310

Disabling medals now, let me know if you still see them later today.


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Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2018-05-28 13:08:44


Is any one able to access this game?

Kind of a weird error I'm getting when trying to load the game.

Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2018-05-28 18:54:55


At 5/27/18 11:19 AM, TomFulp wrote:
At 5/25/18 09:22 PM, Bobogoobo wrote: http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/622014
"Trapped in Space" - Game has been removed, the medals remain. Here's the user where I found them.
https://whileworking.newgrounds.com/stats/medals?compare=33310
Disabling medals now, let me know if you still see them later today.

It looks like they are still showing up, with point values.

Here is another set of medals with the same issue:

"mario save the world" - found

here


See my news post with medal hunting links and tools. I made a program NGMedals that finds your statistics and unearned medals.

There is also a browser script.

Maintainer of the Top Medal Point Users List and API Mod - feel free to PM with any issues.

Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2018-05-28 19:22:44


At 5/28/18 01:08 PM, SLjimbolian wrote: http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/656942
Is any one able to access this game?

Kind of a weird error I'm getting when trying to load the game.

Doesn't work for me either. I get the same error with this game:


See my news post with medal hunting links and tools. I made a program NGMedals that finds your statistics and unearned medals.

There is also a browser script.

Maintainer of the Top Medal Point Users List and API Mod - feel free to PM with any issues.

Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2018-05-29 00:22:37


@SLjimbolian @Bobogoobo

That's because those are games which require the Unity Webplayer plugin in order to work.

If you don't have that plugin (for example, it doesn't exist for your system or you can't get the thing installed) you will instead get that error message.

Personally I think they should force all the games that require that plugin to convert to HTML5 format as Unity allows you to export to this format anyway. There is no good reason to force usage of the Unity Webplayer plugin.

There are several more games which also are like that.


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Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2018-05-30 08:21:11


At 5/29/18 12:22 AM, NeonSpider wrote: That's because those are games which require the Unity Webplayer plugin in order to work.

If you don't have that plugin you will instead get that error message.

Personally I think they should force all the games that require that plugin to convert to HTML5 format as Unity allows you to export to this format anyway. There is no good reason to force usage of the Unity Webplayer plugin.

I 100% agree with you. All of those games should be be converted. That way everybody has a fair and equal chance to play them and earn the medals.

There are several more games which also are like that.

A list could be made. That way they could all be converted at once. Would make it easier that way.


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Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2018-05-30 16:09:36


At 5/30/18 08:21 AM, DoctorStrongbad wrote: A list could be made. That way they could all be converted at once. Would make it easier that way.

I mean, not like I haven't asked for games to be searchable based on platform (Flash, HTML5, Unity Webplayer) at various times in the past, and no one ever implemented that.

It's going to be very difficult for anyone other than staff to make such a list comprehensive. It would not have been difficult for staff to implement my suggestion of allowing sorting options based on platform back at the time I suggested that. In fact it would have been trivially easy for them to do this back then but they did not.

At present it may even be difficult for staff to find this information easily, short of running some script for hours or days going through *all* the submissions and flagging the ones using Unity Webplayer.

All I can do is give good advice. I can't make people take that advice.


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All medals except the secret medal are broken for me because the game literally freezes whenever the timer runs out, on both Firefox and Chrome. Can anyone play this without that happening?

Because of this, Highest Score, Max Height, Games Played, and Points Scored are permanently stuck at 0. Max Combo is permanently stuck at 1. Scoring Average is permanently stuck at nothing displayed at all. The only stat that increases is Baskets Scored, but no medals use that stat.

Since all other medals except the secret medal require that the game not freeze on you once the timer expires, they're all broken.


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Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2018-06-01 23:40:24


"Master Ball" (complete level 8) seems to be broken, I completed level 8 and the author is the only person to ever earn it. (Also "Pokemon Master" awards to everyone, but I won't complain about a free 100 points.)


See my news post with medal hunting links and tools. I made a program NGMedals that finds your statistics and unearned medals.

There is also a browser script.

Maintainer of the Top Medal Point Users List and API Mod - feel free to PM with any issues.

Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2018-06-05 22:19:30


and

Both need to be set to http

Most of Jupitron's medal games have been set to http but seems those two were missed. They both freeze upon earning a medal. All of his medal games (not just most) should be http.


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Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2018-06-06 00:21:46


This game has plenty of medals that do not work. They used to work at one time, but can no longer be earned. I have written the author twice, but have never had a response.


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Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2018-06-06 18:59:36


Also this game has had broken medals for way too long. Literally years!

All the medals Kitsukage mentions as being broken are broken, and he wrote that review back in 2015.

To give an easy list I'll repeat his list here:
Staff Of Ages
Well Done Warrior
Speedy
Cyclops Down
Mutated
Pay Up
Wrong Hole
Burn, Baby, Burn!
Let There Be Light
and also most likely Rick Roll'd is also broken

How can most of those be proven to be broken when they are mostly secret medals? Because of the youtube walkthrough where someone earns all those medals of course! The walkthrough linked in the author comments for the game itself. The only medal in question is Rick Roll'd as it's not featured in the walkthrough, but the only earns are pre-2014, and sometime in 2014 or possibly 2013 is when all those other medals break. We can be reasonably sure Rick Roll'd is probably broken too or at least a good chance it's broken given the extent of medal breakage in this game.

So you can do the same things to earn the medals and no medals. If I was to guess probably the author broke those medals in one of the several updates to the game, so the only people having those medals would be early earners back in 2013 or earlier only! Note there are a couple of documented edits to the game in 2013 and then several edits in 2014 so most likely one or more of the 2014 edits broke the medals.


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Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2018-06-15 22:16:14


At 6/15/18 12:25 PM, RightTime wrote: The medals are working now.

Yeah usually it's better to wait a while before reporting. Very frequently new games will have broken medals for a week or sometimes a month or so before they naturally get fixed and the developer is already aware and working to fix them.

I would say it's probably best not to list games that are just brand spanking new.

Instead PM the developer in those cases.


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Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2018-06-16 18:55:21



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Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2018-06-20 03:18:37


At 6/16/18 06:55 PM, NeonSpider wrote: http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/650231
This game doesn't seem to be awarding any medals

I tried it on IE, firefox and chrome and did not receive any medals.


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Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2018-06-20 13:17:25


This should not belong on the medals list. All the medals are broken and quite frankly, the game itself is broken.

Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2018-06-20 14:16:05


At 6/20/18 01:17 PM, SLjimbolian wrote: http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/712790
This should not belong on the medals list. All the medals are broken and quite frankly, the game itself is broken.

I agree with you, and the medals are all zero points. It should be removed from the medal list until it is corrected.


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Game immediately freezes on the first level. Tested it on Chrome/Firefox; same results. IE is no better as it doesn't even load.

Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2018-06-25 15:04:41


At 4/30/18 09:38 AM, TomFulp wrote:
At 4/29/18 01:08 AM, NeonSpider wrote: http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/652394
Likely needs to be moved over to HTTP.

Once you complete 5 levels, rather than award a medal the game freezes. This is the first medal in the game. Also if you replay it after that freezing, you get awful sound from your speakers and black screen unless you clear cache.
I think cases like this are when games are using Nutcasenightmare's javascript port of our original API. It depends on a third party server that only allows so many free requests per month, at which point the requests stop working. It would be ideal to get all these games ported over to newgrounds.io but that is unlikely.

Refreshing the subject of this game: I earned the medal for finishing 5 levels 3 years ago, today I finished level 11, but when I reached the green square the level did not end and the medal did not pop up. Instead the game froze and now it became unplayable for me since even in the insecure view the game is loading, but is failing to start.


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Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2018-06-26 01:52:06


One thing I've been noticing lately is the Newgrounds medals connection has been behaving extra buggy. There's been quite a few games where, if I let it load then play the game, no medals, but if I reload the page after that and replay, then I can obtain medals.

So really you almost have to let a game load to 100%, then reload the page, *then* actually play the game or the Newgrounds medals connection is just acting way too flaky if you don't. Anyone else noticing this as of late?

Certainly won't help in cases of games where the medals fully are broken, but may help avoid some unnecessary annoying replaying to an extent.

Certainly not as much of an issue in the games which let you resubmit medals, but unfortunately there are plenty of games which don't and many of those where you'd need to clear cache to try again.


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Disregard. I see I've already posted about Fatal Virility being removed but medals remaining. The medals are still there though, so they still need removal.


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Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2018-06-29 03:21:11


At 6/26/18 01:52 AM, NeonSpider wrote: One thing I've been noticing lately is the Newgrounds medals connection has been behaving extra buggy. There's been quite a few games where, if I let it load then play the game, no medals, but if I reload the page after that and replay, then I can obtain medals.

I have also noticed it. Was there a recent update that caused it?

So really you almost have to let a game load to 100%, then reload the page, *then* actually play the game or the Newgrounds medals connection is just acting way too flaky if you don't. Anyone else noticing this as of late?

Yes, it can be a pain. Some games I have to reload three times just to play it.

Certainly not as much of an issue in the games which let you resubmit medals, but unfortunately there are plenty of games which don't and many of those where you'd need to clear cache to try again.

All games should be required to have the resubmit medal function, but that is a conversation for a different topic.


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Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2018-07-01 19:55:19


I guess this would go in the broken medals thread?? Considering these are likely medals which were previously awarded, then removed but for some reason not removed from points on profile?? @Nijsse could you please fix these or whoever is able to fix them please fix them?

@Nijsse medals discrepancies

Little Pony Big War
11/10 (565/465 points)

Rocket Lizard
16/15 (540/490 points)

Sandwich VS Bagel
7/5 (305/230 points)

Super Snake
9/7 (130/95 points)

Symbiosis: Greenland
45/23 (995/500 points)

Transmorpher 2
16/9 (780/395 points)

Vanguard Charge
9/7 (375/225 points)


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Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2018-07-02 11:45:03


At 7/1/18 07:55 PM, NeonSpider wrote: Considering these are likely medals which were previously awarded, then removed but for some reason not removed from points on profile??

medals discrepancies


Little Pony Big War
11/10 (565/465 points)

Rocket Lizard
16/15 (540/490 points)

Sandwich VS Bagel
7/5 (305/230 points)

Super Snake
9/7 (130/95 points)

Symbiosis: Greenland
45/23 (995/500 points)

Transmorpher 2
16/9 (780/395 points)

Vanguard Charge
9/7 (375/225 points)

All of those medals are causing issues? It would explain why the numbers are not adding up correctly. Good work on finding and organizing all of them.


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Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2018-07-02 20:59:31


At 7/2/18 11:45 AM, DoctorStrongbad wrote: All of those medals are causing issues? It would explain why the numbers are not adding up correctly. Good work on finding and organizing all of them.

Well they're all broken in the sense none of them are obtainable and they're all phantom medals.

The two assumptions we could make are that a person cheated or that they were medals which used to exist, were removed, but for some reason were not removed from that person's medals points. I'm going to give benefit of the doubt and go with that second option.

This still makes them phantom medals which shouldn't be there though. And he's not the only one with phantom medals, but certainly the highest ranking and the person with probably the most phantom medals.


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Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2018-07-03 15:31:46


At 7/1/18 07:55 PM, NeonSpider wrote: I guess this would go in the broken medals thread?? Considering these are likely medals which were previously awarded, then removed but for some reason not removed from points on profile?? @Nijsse could you please fix these or whoever is able to fix them please fix them?

Should be fixed, thanks for the report

Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2018-07-04 17:21:11


At 7/3/18 03:31 PM, PulseLane wrote: Should be fixed, thanks for the report

Thanks.

Here's another I've found on another user

DJDarkDash

Street Brawler
27/22 (690/490 points)

At 6/24/18 10:41 PM, SLjimbolian wrote: http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/671533
Game immediately freezes on the first level. Tested it on Chrome/Firefox; same results. IE is no better as it doesn't even load.

Can confirm. I think this is one of those cases where it just needs to be set to HTTP.

Yes your link is http but as soon as you click it you go to the https. Reason is you earn a medal upon completing stage one, and it's a common feature of those games that need to be set to HTTP that upon earning a medal the game just freezes. Also especially when it's not a Flash game and that's not a Flash game.


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Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2018-07-05 20:49:07


Recently I've been noticing a trend where some of the newer game authors would post up their games that are still considered to be in alpha/beta mode and this causes problems with the medal count.

For example, the latest two games:

All have medals that are zero point. I was thinking we should have a system in place where games that are still in alpha/beta mode and being worked on should not count towards the medal count if it is at zero point.

Also this game it's the same issue:

Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2018-07-05 21:04:45


At 7/5/18 08:49 PM, SLjimbolian wrote: Recently I've been noticing a trend where some of the newer game authors would post up their games that are still considered to be in alpha/beta mode and this causes problems with the medal count.

For example, the latest two games:
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/713469
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/713687
All have medals that are zero point. I was thinking we should have a system in place where games that are still in alpha/beta mode and being worked on should not count towards the medal count if it is at zero point.

Also this game it's the same issue:
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/710938

Yeah, it is a problem recently. I'm trying to get in touch with as many of these authors as it is possible and urge them to submit games only with working medals. For example RiceGames promised to make the medals work, I hope they will succeed.

The ones you mentioned aren't worth 0 points, but they are currently displayed like this until they are unlocked by someone or tested by the author. Of course if they are working.

About the system you proposed: it would be a bit problematic to implement since there is no automated way to determine which game is in beta and which one is a completed work, so everything would have to be done manually. And since there is no way to "hide" a game from being included on the "games with medals" list the only way to make it happen would be removing the new medals at sight. But if the authors would fix them there currently would be no way to bring them back because of one system problem I mentioned in this thread here.


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Response to Official Broken Medals Thread 2018-07-07 08:54:36


Another update on the Swapblocks game: I entered it today and tried to load my save from Firefox; the game loaded and because of some weird glitch it gave me all the medals at once. To make it even more weird when I pressed continue I entered an empty stage with the level number of 1532... I reset the whole progress and the game started to work in a normal way, but - I removed all the medals I did not deserve yet - it was not giving me new medals. Then I started the game from scratch on Chrome and this time both the game and medals seem to be working fine.


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