At 3/2/17 10:44 AM, HerbieG wrote:
Well, I unlocked few of them, but in their description there is only a part of a story told and nothing about the requirements for unlocking them, so I even have no idea when and why I earned them. I thought that they are maybe appearing while you are playing the game - the longer you play the more of those medals you get
That's a bingo. That's precisely how you obtain them.
but since the game disconnects from Newgrounds it may also not be possible to get the latest of them.
Also correct. You're at the mercy of the medals API not timing out prior to the medal being obtained.
This is why precisely where it decides to timeout (and thus precisely how far different people have managed to get medals-wise) will differ from one individual to another.
It's the same problem in any games that take some time to obtain medals. And particularly bad in games where you must do it all in one go and no save feature, so you can't even do the save the game, reload the page, reload from save, then obtain medal workaround.
There are quite a few games where I should have all medals in-game but lack a few of them due to this exact issue.
Now if there's some way to tell the Newgrounds API to not disconnect and hold your horses and stay connected the whole time so you can get the medals? Then yeah then you could get them.
There may be some way to do that but I don't at present know of such a way.
Yes it's a fault of design of the game programmer, but also it's a fault of design of Newgrounds itself. And especially if there is lack of information hammering it into developers' heads that, yes, you really do need to work around this exact problem (and also couldn't hurt to allow medal resubmit functionality).
When you have essentially zero quality control combined with amateur programmers, combined with these programmers not knowing you gotta do all these workarounds in your code so you don't break medals for your players, then yes you're going to have these exact issues.
So of course the better coders do code in workarounds and even code in medal resubmit functionality in the best of cases. But for every matt-likes-swords you'll have hundreds of MiscritsQuests.
It's only fortunate that most of the truly bad games submitters haven't figured out how to include medals in their games, but obviously some of them have.