At 2/17/17 06:34 PM, HerbieG wrote: It should be checked and determined which medals exactly work in it and what medals do not. I just ended with over 1200 kills and the medal did not work. I also remember that once I was crazy enough to grind the score to that ridiculous number of one million, but the medals for 1 000 000 and 500 000 did not unlock either. No idea about what are those secret medals for...
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/614956
Also it should not be expected that the author will ever fix anything in this game...

That's because that game timeouts like crazy. It's the whole medals API timing out problem that plagues quite a number of games, except this one has no means to save play and resume from a saved game, so you can't even use that workaround on it.

If you can find some way to keep the medals API open the entire time (how??) then you could in theory obtain all the medals.

It's why, for example, the medals that stop working differ for different people, yet very few would have all the medals.

I should have all the medals in that game (I definitely earned them) but of course suffered from the medals API timeout issue, so you can check whatever I do have on that game to see whereabouts the medals API decided to timeout for me on that game.

So really this one is a much bigger issue than just this one game because it's the whole medals API timeout issue. Probably the absolutely most annoying medals issue on the entire website, considering it'll tend to affect those medals which require lots of time and effort to obtain, thus being the ultimate troll to the player as well.

As for the secret medals in the game, you haven't figured it out yet? I know he has some really arcane secret medals in some of his other games, but the ones in this game should be pretty obvious how to obtain, at least once you start obtaining a few of them (which you should already have some).

At 3/1/17 07:23 PM, NeonSpider wrote:

At 2/17/17 06:34 PM, HerbieG wrote: It should be checked and determined which medals exactly work in it and what medals do not. I just ended with over 1200 kills and the medal did not work. I also remember that once I was crazy enough to grind the score to that ridiculous number of one million, but the medals for 1 000 000 and 500 000 did not unlock either. No idea about what are those secret medals for...
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/614956
Also it should not be expected that the author will ever fix anything in this game...

That's because that game timeouts like crazy. It's the whole medals API timing out problem that plagues quite a number of games, except this one has no means to save play and resume from a saved game, so you can't even use that workaround on it.

If you can find some way to keep the medals API open the entire time (how??) then you could in theory obtain all the medals.

It's why, for example, the medals that stop working differ for different people, yet very few would have all the medals.

I should have all the medals in that game (I definitely earned them) but of course suffered from the medals API timeout issue, so you can check whatever I do have on that game to see whereabouts the medals API decided to timeout for me on that game.

So really this one is a much bigger issue than just this one game because it's the whole medals API timeout issue. Probably the absolutely most annoying medals issue on the entire website, considering it'll tend to affect those medals which require lots of time and effort to obtain, thus being the ultimate troll to the player as well.

Yeah, I am aware of that. Some of the developers deal with it by adding some additional code to the game that forces it to connect to the NG API before unlocking the medal. There are also several - but not many - games that are using Newgrounds-based saving system, so they are constantly connected.

As for the secret medals in the game, you haven't figured it out yet? I know he has some really arcane secret medals in some of his other games, but the ones in this game should be pretty obvious how to obtain, at least once you start obtaining a few of them (which you should already have some).

Well, I unlocked few of them, but in their description there is only a part of a story told and nothing about the requirements for unlocking them, so I even have no idea when and why I earned them. I thought that they are maybe appearing while you are playing the game - the longer you play the more of those medals you get, but since the game disconnects from Newgrounds it may also not be possible to get the latest of them.

It seems like I'm not getting medals for any games. Is anyone else experiencing this?

At 3/2/17 03:55 PM, Ickalo wrote: It seems like I'm not getting medals for any games. Is anyone else experiencing this?

Well, as I can see you have some medals on your account :-) Which games were you playing recently and you did not get medals from? On what browser? Do you have any AdBlocking devices turned on or anything that can interfere with the Flash Player for example? Is your Flash Player up-to-date?

At 3/2/17 10:44 AM, HerbieG wrote: Well, I unlocked few of them, but in their description there is only a part of a story told and nothing about the requirements for unlocking them, so I even have no idea when and why I earned them. I thought that they are maybe appearing while you are playing the game - the longer you play the more of those medals you get

That's a bingo. That's precisely how you obtain them.

but since the game disconnects from Newgrounds it may also not be possible to get the latest of them.

Also correct. You're at the mercy of the medals API not timing out prior to the medal being obtained.

This is why precisely where it decides to timeout (and thus precisely how far different people have managed to get medals-wise) will differ from one individual to another.

It's the same problem in any games that take some time to obtain medals. And particularly bad in games where you must do it all in one go and no save feature, so you can't even do the save the game, reload the page, reload from save, then obtain medal workaround.

There are quite a few games where I should have all medals in-game but lack a few of them due to this exact issue.

Now if there's some way to tell the Newgrounds API to not disconnect and hold your horses and stay connected the whole time so you can get the medals? Then yeah then you could get them.

There may be some way to do that but I don't at present know of such a way.

Yes it's a fault of design of the game programmer, but also it's a fault of design of Newgrounds itself. And especially if there is lack of information hammering it into developers' heads that, yes, you really do need to work around this exact problem (and also couldn't hurt to allow medal resubmit functionality).

When you have essentially zero quality control combined with amateur programmers, combined with these programmers not knowing you gotta do all these workarounds in your code so you don't break medals for your players, then yes you're going to have these exact issues.

So of course the better coders do code in workarounds and even code in medal resubmit functionality in the best of cases. But for every matt-likes-swords you'll have hundreds of MiscritsQuests.

It's only fortunate that most of the truly bad games submitters haven't figured out how to include medals in their games, but obviously some of them have.

At 3/2/17 08:04 PM, NeonSpider wrote:

At 3/2/17 10:44 AM, HerbieG wrote: Well, I unlocked few of them, but in their description there is only a part of a story told and nothing about the requirements for unlocking them, so I even have no idea when and why I earned them. I thought that they are maybe appearing while you are playing the game - the longer you play the more of those medals you get

That's a bingo. That's precisely how you obtain them.

but since the game disconnects from Newgrounds it may also not be possible to get the latest of them.

Also correct. You're at the mercy of the medals API not timing out prior to the medal being obtained.

Guess what? Somehow this game has a medal re-checking feature of some sort since I just entered it and it gave me the medal for 1000 kills and another secret medal. I'll never fully understand how the games made by this author are working...

Some complain about this game:

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  Cat Advemture

  by L147r0j41bu54mh4

  A simple platformer game. Escape the flaming meadow before you burn !!

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  6,471 Views

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I cannot get the medal for finding the secret level. This has much to do with the fact that I cannot find the secret level at all. I wrote a bit about it

here

some months ago. To sum it up, I thought that the secret level only could be played this date 5:13 PM. I played the game today. Started some minutes before 17:13. The game was like normal. At 17:13 I had refreshed to the 'play' button. I tried to press the invisible button. Nothing happened. I pressed 'play' and the game started as normal. I refreshed and did this again. When the game had begun I played the game like normal when the clock went over to 17:14 on my computer. On a side note: Holy canoly this game is hard.

What I write may be taken lightly rather than as conclusions. It is not clear what this secret is, or how it is supposed to be found. You americans can try to find this secret level if you happen to read this post before 5:13 PM today. Maybe the level was only available at Mars 17:th 2016. Maybe the level disappeared that day instead, and the hidden timestamp being there either to warn about something changing that day or later telling that something went away that day. In both cases, the medal should be removed due to not being obtainable any longer.

@JME10135

Okay, no, this is not how this works. Medals aren't broken merely if no one has obtained them. Perhaps no one has legitimately obtained it yet but it is still possible to obtain.

Also, with secret medals, unless you know exactly how to get the medal, you really have no proof of anything.

And I'm fairly certain all the medals in all of @l147r0j41bu54mh4 games are obtainable, even though I've not obtained them all, because I've never had any problems with earning medals and then those medals not awarding in his games nor have I seen this to be the case with anyone else.

And medals simply being hard is not a good reason to remove them. Yes that guy's games are very hard. It actually would be an improvement across the board if we had more games like that and less games like all these "gimme" type games anyone can do.

It's only a broken medal if you've met the requirements for obtaining it (and are 100% sure you have), and it didn't award, and you already tried all the workarounds (clearing cache, playing again, save file API timeout workaround (not applicable in this exact case but is in others), etc...) Basically only if you've done everything right and the medal never awards.

At 3/19/17 06:23 AM, NeonSpider wrote: @JME10135

Hi : O

Also, with secret medals, unless you know exactly how to get the medal, you really have no proof of anything.

Well that is not really my concern in this case, but okay.

And medals simply being hard is not a good reason to remove them. Yes that guy's games are very hard.

It is a bad reason indeed.

It actually would be an improvement across the board if we had more games like that and less games like all these "gimme" type games anyone can do.

Just no <: X

It's only a broken medal if you've met the requirements for obtaining it (and are 100% sure you have), and it didn't award, and you already tried all the workarounds (clearing cache, playing again, save file API timeout workaround (not applicable in this exact case but is in others), etc...) Basically only if you've done everything right and the medal never awards.

I see you are very clear in your statements, and so I also want to be:

I came here to start a discussion about how the medal for finding a secret level is supposed to be unlocked. My intention earlier was to play cat adventure that day and time, find the secret level, post about it in the 'medals games and tips' thread and explain how to get to it. Since I was wrong about how to find the secret level, I posted about it here instead to bring up a discussion that hopefully would clear out how to earn that medal once and for all. In case it turns out to be broken we would already be in the correct thread for that.

The OP states that such matters should be brought up in the other medals thread, but that was back in the day when the people there most likely would test how the medals in question could be earned. Now it would probably escalate to something else, if it would escalate to something at all. I have seen you guys discussing similar matters in this thread before lately, and I hope that this topic could start an interesting discussion as well.

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  The Quick Brown Fox

  by OMBG

  A simple one-button concentration game where timing your jumps right is key.

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Everytime I could unlock a medal, the game crashes/freezes in Firefox and gives this message:

An error occured running the Unity content on this page. See your browser’s JavaScript console for more info. The error was: TypeError: NG.medals is undefined

At 3/2/17 04:18 PM, HerbieG wrote:

At 3/2/17 03:55 PM, Ickalo wrote: It seems like I'm not getting medals for any games. Is anyone else experiencing this?

Well, as I can see you have some medals on your account :-) Which games were you playing recently and you did not get medals from? On what browser? Do you have any AdBlocking devices turned on or anything that can interfere with the Flash Player for example? Is your Flash Player up-to-date?

Sorry it took me a while to respond. I just turned off Opera's built-in AdBlock and Disconnect for Newgrounds, and now the medals work, haha.

At 3/17/17 03:08 PM, JME10135 wrote: Some complain about this game:
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/669631
I cannot get the medal for finding the secret level. This has much to do with the fact that I cannot find the secret level at all.

3rd screen of the boss fight. Avoid his laser, the fire from above and the second laser standing at the highest platform. When the boss tries to leave the screen, jump over him and wait. The screen will start to fill with flames in the background. The secret level will start eventually. It is maybe necessary to enter the 4ths screen later as well, in case the secret level doesn't trigger. Since I am still the only person who unlocked the achievement for it I think this is still an unanswered question. And even when this is the wrong post now people can at least figure out if the medal currently works. I am not going to delete mine to test it :P.

At 4/17/17 04:49 PM, Syrreal wrote:

At 3/17/17 03:08 PM, JME10135 wrote: Some complain about this game:
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/669631
I cannot get the medal for finding the secret level. This has much to do with the fact that I cannot find the secret level at all.

3rd screen of the boss fight. Avoid his laser, the fire from above and the second laser standing at the highest platform. When the boss tries to leave the screen, jump over him and wait. The screen will start to fill with flames in the background. The secret level will start eventually. It is maybe necessary to enter the 4ths screen later as well, in case the secret level doesn't trigger. Since I am still the only person who unlocked the achievement for it I think this is still an unanswered question. And even when this is the wrong post now people can at least figure out if the medal currently works. I am not going to delete mine to test it :P.

Aww I had hoped it was something that could be done earlier in the game, like, before it starts. Thanks anyway. Perhaps I would give it another try if it wasn't for the scrolling clouds. There is way too much movement to the left in games. >>:c

After NeonSpider successfully taged our dear author for this game, I got a PM from Lsrtkjhlitth.dvm.kgnerhjbfd(leetspeakwtf) telling me that the numbers at the loading screen simply were notes to himself about when the latest update was. I then saw that he for some reason changed the placement for these numbers to the opposite corner. He also gave me a hint: The secret level has something to do with the image of the medal for finding the secret level. Not that any of this consern us in any way now.

Could somebody check one thing? I think the medal codes in this game are all messed up.

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  Crush The Castle 2

  by joeybetz

  Crush The Castle is back and bigger than ever.

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  880,698 Views

  (Ages 13+)

It gave me prematurely 3 medals so far: the prohibition, the air burst and the lumberjack. They all unlocked alongside with other medals, although I didn't get those in-game achievements. I will unlock them anyway since they aren't hard to get, so no big deal, but something is wrong here. And I don't like to get medals for nothing, even the 5 points ones.

@Shantom - I remember that you had a list of games with messed medals, is that game on this list?

At 4/28/17 09:43 PM, HerbieG wrote: @Shantom - I remember that you had a list of games with messed medals, is that game on this list?

Actually, I don't have a "medals that unlock for no reason" list, but I added it to one of the lists though :P
Seems like an old game with an inactive author, so I guess we can't do much here.
At least they're working? :o

Are the medals in this game still working? I scored enough to get 2 more of them, but they did not unlock.

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  Road Closed

  by glorygamestudio

  Blow up the barriers on the way or this cute dog will fly away

  Game

  5,015 Views

  (Everyone)

At 4/30/17 10:46 AM, HerbieG wrote: Are the medals in this game still working? I scored enough to get 2 more of them, but they did not unlock.
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/686301

I also scored enough but nothing worked. PMed the author.

At 4/30/17 11:26 AM, Shantom wrote:

At 4/30/17 10:46 AM, HerbieG wrote: Are the medals in this game still working? I scored enough to get 2 more of them, but they did not unlock.
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/686301

I also scored enough but nothing worked. PMed the author.

Just when I learned to play this game a bit ;-)
Speaking about the list of games: I meant the list of games with messed achievements, being awarded in a wrong way, like - if I remember it correctly - the Smokoko's Made in Mafia.

At 4/30/17 01:08 PM, HerbieG wrote: the Smokoko's Made in Mafia.

Thanks! :o

I got a question related to this game, anybody remembers it/?

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  Linker

  by Charcoa1

  A physics puzzle game, with a difference!

  Game

  11,286 Views

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Was there a scoreboard in this game? Because there is this medal for getting number 1 score and nobody unlocked it for about 4 years now. There is also no built-in scoreboard in the game itself.

At 5/6/17 12:19 PM, HerbieG wrote: I got a question related to this game, anybody remembers it/?
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/612269
Was there a scoreboard in this game? Because there is this medal for getting number 1 score and nobody unlocked it for about 4 years now. There is also no built-in scoreboard in the game itself.

There is a snapshot of this game from March the 3rd 2013.
https://web.archive.org/web/20130303004750/http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/612269
There was no scoreboard on NG at least and as far as I can remember the game it just unlocked after getting a top (good/high/awesome - not ranking wise) score in one stage (which should unlock before you finish Hardcore).

At 4/30/17 10:46 AM, HerbieG wrote: Are the medals in this game still working? I scored enough to get 2 more of them, but they did not unlock.
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/686301

Probably. I seem to remember that game requiring multiple runs to win medals. Like some runs you couldn't get any medals at all, and others were fine.

You probably just need to play it some more.

At 5/13/17 06:22 AM, NeonSpider wrote:

At 4/30/17 10:46 AM, HerbieG wrote: Are the medals in this game still working? I scored enough to get 2 more of them, but they did not unlock.
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/686301

Probably. I seem to remember that game requiring multiple runs to win medals. Like some runs you couldn't get any medals at all, and others were fine.

You probably just need to play it some more.

So this is a similar situation to the one you mentioned some time ago, I mean this game:

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  Arise 2

  by Mantis1

  Wall-jump and evade a volcano's wrath!

  Game

  14,277 Views

  (Ages 13+)

As you can see the 10 000 medal has been removed. The difference is that in the Road Closed nobody earned any medal for few months now, so the medals should be fixed or removed.

By the way, I just played an interesting game that you played recently... adjust your review! ;-)

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  Build a Snowman

  by Raiper34

  Build a Snowman is a logical game.

  Game

  6,247 Views

  (Everyone)

I am certainly getting curious if there actually are any medals for finishing the 2nd and 3rd world.

By the way, the medal for completing world 1 in this game is a perfect example of an undervalued medal that should definitely be worth more than just 10 points. Lots of games just give the same for clicking on something.

At 5/15/17 03:14 PM, HerbieG wrote: So this is a similar situation to the one you mentioned some time ago, I mean this game:
As you can see the 10 000 medal has been removed. The difference is that in the Road Closed nobody earned any medal for few months now, so the medals should be fixed or removed.

Actually, not the same at all. In Bird Hop 2/Arise 2, no matter how many times I achieved the goal or in what browsers, or how much I cleared cache etc, it was literally never going to give the medal to me. Because apparently it checks high scores before giving you the medal, but if your high score was already above where it should have given you the medal, yet for some reason had not given you the medal, then it's impossible to get the medal. I PM'd game author, he checked, acknowledged this was the problem, and removed the medal, no thanks at all to a certain argumentative medal mod.

The reason this is not the case in Road Closed is you can still get those medals. Play the game and make sure it is doing the medal popups as you play because if it's not, then it's not going to award medals in that run, and if it is then it'll award any medals you earn in that run. I mean I just checked right now and it's still doing the medal popups, meaning it's still working. (If it's not doing medal popups for you in a run, keep refreshing until you get a run where it does work). This game was *always* like this and I (and I suspect everyone else) had to put up with this when we were obtaining the medals for it.

There were definitely medals I had to earn multiple times before they awarded in that game and I figured out you needed a run where you were getting the medal popups.

Broken medal is more like the medal isn't obtainable at all, not you just have to use workarounds to obtain it.

By the way, I just played an interesting game that you played recently... adjust your review! ;-)

You should be around Newgrounds long enough by now to know reviews are permanent and there's no such thing as "adjusting your review". Besides, if you mean number of people who have achieved that one medal, I did say at the time of the review in the review itself, so that's correct no matter how many people achieve it beyond that time.

The only thing incorrect in my review of Build a Snowman was I thought the game hadn't any major problems, but I was wrong in this. Because the game freezes once you clear world 2, so even if there were a medal for clearing world 2 you can't get it, and you can't ever play world 3, which would mean you also can't get a medal there, if there is one.

I am certainly getting curious if there actually are any medals for finishing the 2nd and 3rd world.
By the way, the medal for completing world 1 in this game is a perfect example of an undervalued medal that should definitely be worth more than just 10 points. Lots of games just give the same for clicking on something.

I would guess there probably are hidden medals for those (I don't like how Newgrounds auto-hides medals no one has after a time, by the way, unless they are broken). In this case they do happen to be broken though since after beating world 2, the game freezes the instant you do the final move.

Thus it's not possible to get a medal for world 2 or to even play world 3 at all, which explains why no one has those medals, in this case.

At 5/16/17 08:19 AM, NeonSpider wrote: Because apparently it checks high scores before giving you the medal, but if your high score was already above where it should have given you the medal, yet for some reason had not given you the medal, then it's impossible to get the medal.

If the problem was with your high score, I could've easily removed it so you can attempt it again. The author shouldn't have removed a working medal just because it didn't work for you.
I spent an hour or so to confirm whether the medal is working or not, just to have it removed? because it wasn't working for you?
Did anyone else try? No.
I asked in my post ( here and here) for others to confirm it but no one did (only HerbieG 'who followed my first post' attempted the 5k medal and achieved it after a while.)
That medal was working until the 3rd user confirms otherwise.
Removing your high score never occurred to me until now. Maybe it would've fixed your problem (since it was only on your side and the medal was clearly working.)

Checking Aventuras do Sr Riso again.. I see you achieved that medal you said "100% not working"... What changed?
The game was not updated since then, which means it was working all this time.
So, instead of calling me a bias (even though you really don't know me), you could've done a better job at testing. And again, I always welcome a 3rd or a 4th party member but no one showed up.

Simply put, if a medal worked for someone after it failed to work for someone else, then the medal is working. You either had a problem back then or there is a certain trick to obtain it. The more people to confirm it, the better.
(even if the medal is not working for me but working for someone else, it stays.)

At 5/16/17 10:31 AM, Shantom wrote:

At 5/16/17 08:19 AM, NeonSpider wrote: Because apparently it checks high scores before giving you the medal, but if your high score was already above where it should have given you the medal, yet for some reason had not given you the medal, then it's impossible to get the medal.

If the problem was with your high score, I could've easily removed it so you can attempt it again. The author shouldn't have removed a working medal just because it didn't work for you.
I spent an hour or so to confirm whether the medal is working or not, just to have it removed? because it wasn't working for you?
Did anyone else try? No.

Ow... waitaminute... I think that I'll bring attention of the author to this discussion, here goes: @Mantis1
So if the medal was actually working... then I demand my 100 points back ;-)
A question to the author: why it couldn't be simply done like this: I open the game, the game recognizes the account, checks the highscore and awards me with all the medals I should have earned by reaching it?

At 5/16/17 08:19 AM, NeonSpider wrote:

At 5/15/17 03:14 PM, HerbieG wrote:

There were definitely medals I had to earn multiple times before they awarded in that game and I figured out you needed a run where you were getting the medal popups.

Broken medal is more like the medal isn't obtainable at all, not you just have to use workarounds to obtain it.

So the way suggested by Shantom to earn the 10 000 medal in Bird Hop 2 (that new name is weird) by removing the highscore could be such a workaround.

As far as I remember even when I earned the first medal in Road Closed game there was no medal pop-up. And this game was working for me only in Chrome, in Firefox - black screen.

If more people would try to earn medals in this game and everybody would fail - then it would mean that the medals are indeed broken.

By the way, I just played an interesting game that you played recently... adjust your review! ;-)

You should be around Newgrounds long enough by now to know reviews are permanent and there's no such thing as "adjusting your review". Besides, if you mean number of people who have achieved that one medal, I did say at the time of the review in the review itself, so that's correct no matter how many people achieve it beyond that time.

You didn't sense a joke in my post. Don't take everything so seriously :-)

At 5/16/17 11:54 AM, HerbieG wrote:

At 5/16/17 10:31 AM, Shantom wrote:

At 5/16/17 08:19 AM, NeonSpider wrote: Because apparently it checks high scores before giving you the medal, but if your high score was already above where it should have given you the medal, yet for some reason had not given you the medal, then it's impossible to get the medal.

If the problem was with your high score, I could've easily removed it so you can attempt it again. The author shouldn't have removed a working medal just because it didn't work for you.
I spent an hour or so to confirm whether the medal is working or not, just to have it removed? because it wasn't working for you?
Did anyone else try? No.

Ow... waitaminute... I think that I'll bring attention of the author to this discussion, here goes: @Mantis1
So if the medal was actually working... then I demand my 100 points back ;-)
A question to the author: why it couldn't be simply done like this: I open the game, the game recognizes the account, checks the highscore and awards me with all the medals I should have earned by reaching it?

I wish I had the ability to award medal points :(((

I revived the medal, it's back in your account.

That medal was super iffy if I recall. Some users asked me to remove it. I tried going in the source code to fix it but it was a nightmare, I blame the beta newgrounds medal API and my shitty coding skills at the time. I'll look around the project today, see if I can implement your solution.

So the way suggested by Shantom to earn the 10 000 medal in Bird Hop 2 (that new name is weird)

Agreed on weird name, but still better than a cease and desist. I'm taking suggestions for a better name if you have one!

At 5/16/17 10:31 AM, Shantom wrote: If the problem was with your high score, I could've easily removed it so you can attempt it again. The author shouldn't have removed a working medal just because it didn't work for you.

Yes and you would have had to manually remove it each time it didn't work, something a normal user and non-moderator couldn't do. And not just for me, but for anyone else who should have obtained it but didn't, etc... So yes it really was broken.

I spent an hour or so to confirm whether the medal is working or not, just to have it removed? because it wasn't working for you?

No. Because it actually was broken.

Did anyone else try? No.

It's a lengthy medal to obtain, so few people would have it *anyway*. It's not like a medal hundreds of people were going to have. I'm sure other people did try but simply didn't make it far enough, as the high score tables would be proof enough of whoever it affected.

I asked in my post ( here and here) for others to confirm it but no one did (only HerbieG 'who followed my first post' attempted the 5k medal and achieved it after a while.)
That medal was working until the 3rd user confirms otherwise.

That's not how computer programs work.

Removing your high score never occurred to me until now. Maybe it would've fixed your problem (since it was only on your side and the medal was clearly working.)

Except removing the score would have given me only a single attempt at it, etc... plus if anything went wrong during that attempt, same manual workaround (not doable by the regular users themselves). Plus the same exact thing could have happened with anyone else and you are literally *LUCKY* it didn't happen to you! Although in your exact case you can delete your scores so it wouldn't matter, but you're not a normal user either.

And that's not at all "on my side" when it is literally on the server side. Should anyone else encounter the problem where the high score registers but the medal doesn't award even once, they would then *never* be able to obtain the medal. Even if the initial reason for that is client-side, the persistence of it is server-side. But I'm not sure you're following.

Can regular users delete their scores? No, they can't. So that's not a viable workaround.

Checking Aventuras do Sr Riso again.. I see you achieved that medal you said "100% not working"... What changed?
The game was not updated since then, which means it was working all this time.

No it doesn't. Have you considered asking me how or why it unlocked this time but not before? During the time I unlocked it I had Supporter status and prior to that I did not. The game literally spams the Newgrounds API to the point it gets temporarily blacklisted (and you'd know this if you thoroughly read through the actual information available for games programmers in the newgrounds.io site). But of course you haven't. You're not a programmer. You're actually not qualified to make this judgment.

So, no, it wasn't working. It was spamming the medals API. It just so happens perhaps Newgrounds is a bit more tolerant of this spam if it happens to come from a Supporter account rather than a regular account is all.

So, instead of calling me a bias (even though you really don't know me), you could've done a better job at testing. And again, I always welcome a 3rd or a 4th party member but no one showed up.

Hold up. I did not call you biased "because I did not know you". I called you biased because your actions were biased. I evaluated your actions at the time, not your personality. I even said that perhaps you were not aware of your own bias, and perhaps it was not consciously done. Go look up something called bias blind spot. It's not an uncommon human condition. Basically people don't tend to be aware of the biases they hold.

Simply put, if a medal worked for someone after it failed to work for someone else, then the medal is working.

Not necessarily. See above arguments.

You either had a problem back then or there is a certain trick to obtain it. The more people to confirm it, the better.
(even if the medal is not working for me but working for someone else, it stays.)

The problem is that game spams Newgrounds API because it is badly coded. So if you get the medal before the temporary blacklist, you get the medal. Otherwise you don't (and you have to wait hours before you try again, at which point get temp blacklist again). And it just so happens Newgrounds is more tolerant of Supporter accounts spamming the API, so your odds on obtaining that are much greater with a Supporter or better account versus a regular one.

At 5/16/17 11:54 AM, HerbieG wrote: So if the medal was actually working... then I demand my 100 points back ;-)
A question to the author: why it couldn't be simply done like this: I open the game, the game recognizes the account, checks the highscore and awards me with all the medals I should have earned by reaching it?

Well that's how the medal should have been done, but wasn't. If that were the case then I could have easily loaded the game up, the game detecting I should have that medal, and awarding it, but it didn't work like that. But I agree if it were correctly implemented like that that would have solved the problem for that game for everyone.

So the way suggested by Shantom to earn the 10 000 medal in Bird Hop 2 (that new name is weird) by removing the highscore could be such a workaround.

Not at all. It is not something a regular user can do. Even if Shantom is willing to remove it once for one user for that particular game, will he be willing to remove it 10 times if necessary? 100 times? For 100 different users? etc... It doesn't scale well. Not that many people would have met the requirements *anyway* in that particular case but just sayin'. Also what if he wasn't around at the time, etc?

It's not a workaround if only moderators and administrators can perform the action.

As far as I remember even when I earned the first medal in Road Closed game there was no medal pop-up. And this game was working for me only in Chrome, in Firefox - black screen.

Play it in Firefox. It works fine in Firefox for me. Sometimes you have to wait a while for the initial load though. Try this. Load up the game in Firefox, wait 30 minutes (even if it has a black screen/white screen/etc), refresh the page. Does it work now? Oftentimes that will work for me.

If more people would try to earn medals in this game and everybody would fail - then it would mean that the medals are indeed broken.

Well the medals are broken or not regardless of how many people have them. In that game, there should be medal popups at the upper-left corner of the window as you pass the achievements (easiest is look for the first popup when you hit 10). If that's not there, refresh the page until it's working (takes only a few seconds to hit 10 and test this). Once it is working, don't reload or touch anything -- get all your medals on that run.

I literally did test it again at the time I wrote that reply and at that time I was getting the medal popups.

Also I can't guarantee if it'll work on Chrome or not. Use Firefox. And you might have to be patient with game loading.

Try all of that and just see if it works. It's very common in games that sometimes they seem to not load, but actually the game just isn't good at telling you it's loading (hence waiting 30 minutes then refresh page and see -- if it's loaded it should be cached and should just come right up)

@NeonSpider @Shantom

Guys guys guys, I admit it's my fault for neglecting on updating Bird Hop 2 for the past year. Sorry for the trouble!

I made the following changes to the game (Your saved games are okay).
- Updated Newgrounds.io to the latest available version (09/2016)
- Game now sends your highest saved local score at every death.

If you have a saved game with a score higher than the medal requirement but the medal is still locked:
1- Load the game.
2- Die a couple times in the game
3- Refresh the page again.
Let me know if the medal is unlocked or not.

I'm working on displaying the medal name on screen when you unlock it, but I didn't want to stall this hotfix. I'll post another update tomorrow when that feature is done.