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Response to American Football Discussion 2012-10-04 23:52:06


At 10/4/12 11:32 PM, TheKlown wrote: On Yahoo Answers I picked Rams to win by a touchdown and so far the score is close enough that my prediction might come true.

Nope. Rams manhandled the Cardinals tonight. It looked like Arizona hired a bunch of high school kids to block for their QB. Looks like the Texans and Falcons are the only undefeated teams left in the NFL. There's been a lot of parity this year...


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Response to American Football Discussion 2012-10-05 00:03:08


Texans are better than Falcons, tho I don't know who will lose their 0 first.


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Response to American Football Discussion 2012-10-05 01:12:50


Craziest Cowboys fan ever? He broke a picture frame and last time I seen him post a video he broke a wooden stick or something like that against a fence.

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Response to American Football Discussion 2012-10-05 13:13:03


At 10/5/12 12:03 AM, TheKlown wrote: Texans are better than Falcons, tho I don't know who will lose their 0 first.

I'm thinking the Falcons are gonna be the last ones standing. I'd assume that they'll have an easier time with the Redskins and Raiders than the Texans will with the Jets, Packers, and Ravens. They could both get through all of those games with ease, though, or lose both of this week's games. Who knows...


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Response to American Football Discussion 2012-10-05 17:44:42


At 10/5/12 01:13 PM, ZJ wrote:
At 10/5/12 12:03 AM, TheKlown wrote: Texans are better than Falcons, tho I don't know who will lose their 0 first.
I'm thinking the Falcons are gonna be the last ones standing. I'd assume that they'll have an easier time with the Redskins and Raiders than the Texans will with the Jets, Packers, and Ravens.

I have to agree with the Falcons going undefeated the longest, because they don't really have a tough game until after the bye week. Texans on the other hand, will most likely lose to either the Packers or Ravens, we'll see what happens. Although the main question with Atlanta is can they do what they're doing in the postseason, and not fizzle out?


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Response to American Football Discussion 2012-10-05 19:19:48


Anyone else here subscribe to Sports Illustrated? I laughed when I saw this in my mailbox today.

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Response to American Football Discussion 2012-10-06 00:11:02


At 10/5/12 07:19 PM, ZJ wrote: Anyone else here subscribe to Sports Illustrated? I laughed when I saw this in my mailbox today.

I am, I love SI. The Ed Hochuli article was great even though the fact that they dedicated an entire 6 or so pages to a ref shows just how ridiculous the whole debacle was allowed to get.

Response to American Football Discussion 2012-10-07 00:59:37


A lot of upset today. It was just a bad day to be in the top 5 (unless you are Oregon where you can blind your opponents with your uniforms).
And who knew the West Virgina would be the team to beat in the Big 12.


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Response to American Football Discussion 2012-10-07 16:10:24


My Eagles just lost to the crappy old team Steelers. Loser Steelers team now moves to 2-3 and still will lose their division because Ravens and Bengals are best bets to win that division. God damn, Eagles... Great were 3-2 with the Giants, just great.


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Response to American Football Discussion 2012-10-07 16:42:21


Reggie Fucking Wayne lol


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Response to American Football Discussion 2012-10-07 16:59:37


At 10/7/12 04:42 PM, EternitySpent wrote: Reggie Fucking Wayne lol

There were a number of shit calls that put the Colts in position throughout the game but at the end of the day the defense just completely fell to pieces and there was nothing doing. Not to mention Crosby suddenly became unable to hit a 50-53 yard field goal which, in the NFL, is really unacceptable.

Response to American Football Discussion 2012-10-07 17:38:10


At 10/5/12 07:19 PM, ZJ wrote: Anyone else here subscribe to Sports Illustrated? I laughed when I saw this in my mailbox today.

I never loved any of the refs. They still make bad calls on the field and most of the time they know they're making bad calls probably because they don't like to admit they're wrong or possibly corruption with betting money on the game.


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Response to American Football Discussion 2012-10-07 19:21:12


At 10/7/12 04:10 PM, TheKlown wrote: My Eagles just lost to the crappy old team Steelers.

Simply put, the reason why the Eagles lost is because Vick keeps turning the ball over at the worst possible time, and even then the Steelers couldn't cash in on them until the very end. If they don't turn the ball over so much, then there is no reason why they shouldn't be undefeated by now, considering the talent that have in every position.


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Response to American Football Discussion 2012-10-08 01:41:12


Saints won, but their defense looks like garbage still.


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Response to American Football Discussion 2012-10-08 01:45:08


If Nnamdi Asomugha doesn't start doing his job, he isn't going to be an Eagle for very long and I don't know how many teams want him with how poorly he is playing lately. Hope he didn't blow that 60 million on crap that we paid him.


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Response to American Football Discussion 2012-10-08 11:33:08


Damn yo, Jamal Charles is still running I think. This is the first time I've ever had an elite RB in fantasy in his prime-time season, feels good not having ghetto RB's all day, nah mean.

Unfortunately for KC, Matt Cassel is balls, concussed balls now even. The Chiefs would probably be a playoff contending team now their D is improving, if they had a real QB. I mean what has Matt Cassel ever done at all, let alone done to prove he is a legitimate starting NFL QB. When he took over for Brady I heard it was the first game he started since high school. He was even the #2 on his college teams. But somehow still good enough for the (reasonably) big contract and starting gig for the Chiefs I guess eh? Sometimes you realize why certain franchises tend to be chronically bad, looking at you too Cleveland.


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Response to American Football Discussion 2012-10-08 13:57:13


At 10/8/12 11:33 AM, EternitySpent wrote:
Unfortunately for KC, Matt Cassel is balls, concussed balls now even. The Chiefs would probably be a playoff contending team now their D is improving, if they had a real QB. I mean what has Matt Cassel ever done at all, let alone done to prove he is a legitimate starting NFL QB.

To be fair to Cassel, he did go 10-5 in New England, {somehow missing the playoffs for whatever reason} and if I do remember correctly, he did "lead" {I use that term loosely} KC to the AFC West crown in his second year as the Chiefs QB, so he isn't a complete bust. Although after that, then he simply went downhill from there, only showing flashes of decent play the last 2 seasons. Obviously, Chiefs fans wanted to get this guy off the field when they cheered him getting a concussion, but that's a different discussion.

That's the issue with the QB position in football, it's the most glamorized position in all of sports, and with that comes an expectation of putting up big numbers, in conjuction with winning. A good amount of NFL and major college QBs do this and make it look easy, when in reality it isn't, never mind the dramatic differences between the pro and college level. Now that the NFL is a passing league now, and as I said before, there is an expectation for QBs to post big numbers and when they don't on a consistant basis, then you will be gone, or at least riding the bench.


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Response to American Football Discussion 2012-10-08 17:20:00


At 10/8/12 11:33 AM, EternitySpent wrote: Damn yo, Jamal Charles is still running I think. This is the first time I've ever had an elite RB in fantasy in his prime-time season, feels good not having ghetto RB's all day, nah mean.

I have Chris Johnson. Tom Brady has more rushing TDs than him.


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Response to American Football Discussion 2012-10-09 01:55:41


Jets could have pulled an upset off if their receivers didn't suck ass. Mark Sanchez also made a lot of mistakes tonight too but it's hard to put the blame on the quarterback when he doesn't have many good receivers to pass to. Announcers bashed on the Jet's receivers making wise-crack such as even jaguars and raiders refused to have these players as their receivers.


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Response to American Football Discussion 2012-10-09 04:07:19


Does anyone know why Patriots division always sucks? Jets, Bills, and Dolphins have sucked forever and don't just say it's because Patriots are that great because those 3 teams suck not only against Patriots but against every other team in the league. Why do Patriots have such an easy division? Patriots must make the plaoffs 96 percent of the time in recent memory because of how sorry that division is.


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Response to American Football Discussion 2012-10-09 10:26:42


At 10/9/12 04:07 AM, TheKlown wrote: Does anyone know why Patriots division always sucks? Jets, Bills, and Dolphins have sucked forever and don't just say it's because Patriots are that great because those 3 teams suck not only against Patriots but against every other team in the league. Why do Patriots have such an easy division? Patriots must make the plaoffs 96 percent of the time in recent memory because of how sorry that division is.

You have to remember that NFL teams often fade in and out of prominence. While the Jets, Dolphins, and Bills haven't been dominant in recent memory, you have to remember that the Jets and Dolphins do have Super Bowl winning teams and that the Bills were a force to be reckoned with in the early 90s.

And for the record, didn't the Jets go to the AFC Championship game in 2010 and 2011? How is that them "sucking" forever?


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Response to American Football Discussion 2012-10-09 10:43:47


At 10/9/12 04:07 AM, TheKlown wrote: Does anyone know why Patriots division always sucks? Jets, Bills, and Dolphins have sucked forever and don't just say it's because Patriots are that great because those 3 teams suck not only against Patriots but against every other team in the league. Why do Patriots have such an easy division? Patriots must make the plaoffs 96 percent of the time in recent memory because of how sorry that division is.

Jets are only a season and a half removed from back to back AFC championship appearances, so I don't know how fair it is to lump them in with the Bills and Dolphins, but yeah other than the Patriots that division has been historically week basically since the nfl shifted from 5 to 4 team divisions I guess. Just how it happens to shake out. At least that division has the Patriots, if you're going to pick on any division's quality, you should probably start with the one that couldn't muster up a .500 team to send to the playoffs last year.

Also, I think you're underselling the Patriots quite a bit. The Bills, Dolphins, and Jets may play as poorly against the rest of the league as they do the Patriots, but the Patriots also dominate the rest of the league about as efficiently as they do their own division, as well.

If you throw aside the allegations, personal biases, and general desire to hate, that comes with continued success (and being affiliated with Boston), and just focus on the accomplishments and statistics, we are witnessing historic levels of dominance here, and arguably one of the greatest dynasties in major professional North American sport. In my lifetime (23) I can only really come up with 'Michael's Bulls', 'Yzerman/Lidstrom's Red Wings', 'Jeter's Yankees', and maybe Aikman's Cowboys, off the top of my head as comparable to the 'Bellichek-Brady-Pats' current level of sustained success.

Until they dropped to 1-2 this year the Patriots hadn't had a losing (sub-500) record since early 2003. Think about that for a second.


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Response to American Football Discussion 2012-10-09 11:03:07


At 10/9/12 10:26 AM, ZJ wrote:

Oh yeah, and what happened to those Bengals last week man?

They killed me on my pointspread and I was even 5/5 on my other games too, it sucks when you only lose by a couple of points on that one game. Especially because I was stuck so I just made a bunch of crazy picks like Indy over Green Bay, Seattle over Carolina, and Patriots/Saints to cover, that all actually panned out, just to end up getting Bungled was really balls haha. Fuckin' Dolphins, didn't 'suck forever' enough last week.


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Response to American Football Discussion 2012-10-09 11:36:45


The Bills have sucked for the same reason any team sucks. They've drafted poorly, haven't had a QB since Kelly, and don't pay out enough to attract big name free agents. Obviously this year they paid out the ass for Williams and it's completely blown up in their face. Such is life for small market teams that aren't Green Bay; who haven't been bad since the 80's.

Response to American Football Discussion 2012-10-09 13:57:22


New topic: The Texans are supposed to be the newest #1 AFC Super Bowl Spot contender. Any of you agree with that? I personally can see 2013 being the year they make it. They look really strong and barring any injuries, I really do think they could go all the way.


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Response to American Football Discussion 2012-10-09 22:01:28


At 10/9/12 01:57 PM, ZJ wrote: New topic: The Texans are supposed to be the newest #1 AFC Super Bowl Spot contender. the year they make it. They look really strong and barring any injuries

That's the key, barring any major injuries to key players. Brian Cushing is out with a torn ACL, which is big, but it shouldn't affect their defense that much, but if Schaub goes down again, then there is no way they make it to the Super Bowl. I still think that New England is the de facto measuring stick of the AFC, and if anyone in that conference want to make it to the SB, then most likely they would have to beat them, either in Foxborough or wherever else in the championship game.

Of course, the AFC is a shadow of what it was 5 years ago as a conference, so you can make a decent case for the Ravens or Texans making it to the Super Bowl in the AFC.


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Response to American Football Discussion 2012-10-13 15:59:15


Just wanted to say that texas fucking sucks.
I thought OU/texas would be much closer but hanging 63 on the horns was something unreal.


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Response to American Football Discussion 2012-10-14 10:58:19


At 10/13/12 03:59 PM, reverend wrote:
unreal.

Lol.

Also, Ohio University continues to be undefeated at 7-0 with only a bunch of sub-par MAC teams left to play in the regular season (Yeah, I know my Miami RedHawks aren't that good, I've come to terms with it). I'm honestly thinking they could go undefeated this season. Will that give them a BCS Ranking though? They've only managed to beat teams in their own crappy conference, some unspectacular foes from other conferences, and a neutered Penn State....


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Response to American Football Discussion 2012-10-14 17:53:51


At 10/14/12 10:58 AM, ZJ wrote:
At 10/13/12 03:59 PM, reverend wrote:
Also, Ohio University continues to be undefeated at 7-0 with only a bunch of sub-par MAC teams left to play in the regular season (Yeah, I know my Miami RedHawks aren't that good, I've come to terms with it). I'm honestly thinking they could go undefeated this season. Will that give them a BCS Ranking though? They've only managed to beat teams in their own crappy conference, some unspectacular foes from other conferences, and a neutered Penn State....

They really shouldn't, but they probably will if the do go undefeated because of the feel-good aspect of the story for Solich and the team in general. The MAC is a piss-poor conference overall, so that might hurt their chances of going to a BCS bowl game, much less competing against a Big 12 or SEC runner-up in said game where Ohio will most likely be outmatched badly. If OU does make it, then they can troll Buckeye fans that they're going to the BCS bowl game and OSU can't. {don't know how long that'll last, but I'm sure that they'll milk it for all it's worth.}

Oh, and before I forget, WTF Bengals? A shitty Cleveland team decided now to play well against us that they couldn't do for anyone else before and probably after. {Raiders and Chiefs are probable exceptions} I just know that NG's Skip Bayless is jumping for joy.


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Response to American Football Discussion 2012-10-14 23:36:09


Can anyone explain to me when a Team is down by a lot of points in Football why some teams just give up?

Houston Texans keep making short passes the past 10 minutes of this game. When the only way they could come back is if they threw more long passes. Are their quarterbacks not capable of throwing long accurate passes or are they afraid of the quarterbacks pulling something in their arm or getting hurt some how? I don't get it, I don't like how teams just give up. They can't win a game throwing short passes when they're so far behind... What sense does that make?


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