At 7/30/10 09:54 AM, Domo wrote:

At 7/25/10 02:58 PM, Animith wrote: Aspiration of the Dead by anarcheril

What happened to that it just disappeared.I went to go review it but its not there

It's seemingly been deleted by anarcheril completely. So just review the others, when the update comes I won't count this one in the review stats as it's hard to review that which isn't there :)

At 7/30/10 10:17 AM, Animith wrote:

At 7/30/10 09:54 AM, Domo wrote:

At 7/25/10 02:58 PM, Animith wrote: Aspiration of the Dead by anarcheril

What happened to that it just disappeared.I went to go review it but its not there

It's seemingly been deleted by anarcheril completely. So just review the others, when the update comes I won't count this one in the review stats as it's hard to review that which isn't there :)

Speeking of that when is the next update I have 3 audio request to go but I want to know if I could take my time with them or should get it done NOW ASAP

At 7/29/10 03:57 PM, Soapbubble wrote: Your reviews are very good.

Much obliged. I'm glad to have your respect.

I just think we should review everything, regardless of what we think of the art.

I agree. I just said that I was growing reluctant, partly because I'm weary of pointing out the same stuff all the time. You've been here longer than I did, surely you must know how it feels.

And now he's even written that he'll take your reviews into consideration, which is awesome. We're all accomplishing stuff here.

Well, the irony is that he told me he would take my reviews into consideration, but yet doesn't seem to, even though he seems to have made it partly for me, which by the way, I appreciate.

However, I'll explain why he doesn't seem to pay much attention to my points. The three flaws I kept pointing out the moment I started reviewing his art are:

1- The fills overflow their outlines. He tells me that he likes the way it looks, but to me it's just awkward and sloppy.

2- The man doesn't have ears. At least he strives to draw ears, but it doesn't even look like an ear. It's more like a scar on the far side of the cheek.

3- You rush your art. I try in vain convincing him that anything that is made quickly and without effort is never good. Yet he submits another picture almost four times a week, give or take one.

I'm a tad ambivalent. I can't decide whether to keep taking off points for those, or not to, thinking that it's just his style and that he likes it that way, even though I don't. He has mediocre pictures and quite bad ones, though unfortunately not good ones just yet. I keep lending him a hand, but he rejects it all the time.

At 7/30/10 11:39 AM, mrty wrote:

At 7/29/10 03:57 PM, Soapbubble wrote: Your reviews are very good.

Much obliged. I'm glad to have your respect.

I just think we should review everything, regardless of what we think of the art.

I agree. I just said that I was growing reluctant, partly because I'm weary of pointing out the same stuff all the time. You've been here longer than I did, surely you must know how it feels.

And now he's even written that he'll take your reviews into consideration, which is awesome. We're all accomplishing stuff here.

Well, the irony is that he told me he would take my reviews into consideration, but yet doesn't seem to, even though he seems to have made it partly for me, which by the way, I appreciate.

However, I'll explain why he doesn't seem to pay much attention to my points. The three flaws I kept pointing out the moment I started reviewing his art are:

1- The fills overflow their outlines. He tells me that he likes the way it looks, but to me it's just awkward and sloppy.

2- The man doesn't have ears. At least he strives to draw ears, but it doesn't even look like an ear. It's more like a scar on the far side of the cheek.

3- You rush your art. I try in vain convincing him that anything that is made quickly and without effort is never good. Yet he submits another picture almost four times a week, give or take one.

I'm a tad ambivalent. I can't decide whether to keep taking off points for those, or not to, thinking that it's just his style and that he likes it that way, even though I don't. He has mediocre pictures and quite bad ones, though unfortunately not good ones just yet. I keep lending him a hand, but he rejects it all the time.

Listen as long as I like how it looks, I am happy...I just would not like it if my art looked to real and had no overfill, I know you don't like how it looks but I do so you can be like that and keep on trying to change me or you could go to a wicked awesome party that rules and has cake and more cake and tubs full of ice cream your choice...i dunno why I said something about a party so don't bother asking.

If I can throw my $0.02 in, I'm not entirely comfortable with the idea that we should criticise people for their requests or how they work or how they respond to reviews on an open thread. If you don't want to review something, you just...don't. Don't feel a need to have to justify why you're not reviewing something. Just review what you want to review.

At 7/30/10 11:16 AM, Domo wrote: Speeking of that when is the next update I have 3 audio request to go but I want to know if I could take my time with them or should get it done NOW ASAP

Glad you brought this up!

I'm actually going on holiday myself for a week. However, as it's Sunday-Sunday, it still means I can do the updates.
But as I'm leaving earlyish this sunday, what I was planning on doing is posting the requests list, but not the member update.

Then when I get back on the 8th, I'll post that week's request list, and the Member's Update for BOTH weeks. So effectively you could have til Sunday the 8th of August to finish this list and the upcoming one.

If everyone's generally okay with that plan, that's what'll happen.
If people do want to see if they've moved up spots, stats, etc.,I can post an unofficial member update this sunday, but then do a proper one on the 8th to make sure all the reviews get mentioned.

I've probably explained this quite badly :P Do say if I've confused or if I made sense xD

At 7/30/10 11:50 AM, Animith wrote:
So effectively you could have til Sunday the 8th of August to finish this list and the upcoming one.

Thats perfect.That is my B-day

May I ask you guys to review this? :D

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But as I'm leaving earlyish this sunday, what I was planning on doing is posting the requests list, but not the member update.

You're doing a great job with the updates, I'm glad the club is still going strong! I thank you for this :). Any way, I could do the update if you want, I would do a terrible work since I haven't updated anything in ages but still... :)

Great job anyway, congrats.

Hey guys could I please get one on this?

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Hey guys... just posting my points for the week as part of the initiation process. Thanks for admitting me by the way, guys. Much appreciated.

Reviewed:
The House Mouse by KieranNG = 5+1
biggie the tank engine = 5+1
You Can't Touch Neil Tyson by Alaska = 5+1
John Lennon by up-a-notch = 5+1
-+-Crash And Burn-+- by Hikigane = 5+1
John Lennon = 5+1

Posting once = 3

Thus, that's 33 points overall. Thank you, guys! I think I'm going to do more reviews once I know that I don't have to monitor them all. Maybe the whole thing of documenting my reviews sort of put me off. But this time I'll try to get 100%. But, reviewing art is hard! I don't know that much about art and technique! I didn't want to give an uninformed opinion. But thanks guys, anyway. Glad to be in the club.

Damm.I leave the best review Ive done in a while and look at what he responds.

At 7/30/10 10:10 PM, Domo wrote: Damm.I leave the best review Ive done in a while and look at what he responds.

dude does it really matter that much to you? i think you have more important things to worry about than this

At 7/30/10 11:06 PM, klik wrote:

At 7/30/10 10:10 PM, Domo wrote: Damm.I leave the best review Ive done in a while and look at what he responds.

dude does it really matter that much to you? i think you have more important things to worry about than this

I'm personally happy if they look at it and say thanks. Just so I know that they looked at it.

At 7/30/10 11:46 PM, sixflab wrote:

At 7/30/10 11:06 PM, klik wrote:

At 7/30/10 10:10 PM, Domo wrote: Damm.I leave the best review Ive done in a while and look at what he responds.

dude does it really matter that much to you? i think you have more important things to worry about than this

I'm personally happy if they look at it and say thanks. Just so I know that they looked at it.

I know he looked but I just don't think he read it.Im happy for that he responded just would of liked a little more

Sorry for the bit of inactivity. I have a bad case of what seems like gastric flu...

At 7/30/10 02:43 PM, Sonofkirk wrote: You're doing a great job with the updates, I'm glad the club is still going strong! I thank you for this :). Any way, I could do the update if you want, I would do a terrible work since I haven't updated anything in ages but still... :)

Great job anyway, congrats.

Hey Sonofkirk , good to see you again! :D

Yeah Animith has the spreadsheets right now since I'm abroad.

At 7/30/10 10:00 PM, spartacusxerox wrote: Hey guys... just posting my points for the week as part of the initiation process. Thanks for admitting me by the way, guys. Much appreciated.

Reviewed:
The House Mouse by KieranNG = 5+1
biggie the tank engine = 5+1
You Can't Touch Neil Tyson by Alaska = 5+1
John Lennon by up-a-notch = 5+1
-+-Crash And Burn-+- by Hikigane = 5+1
John Lennon = 5+1

Posting once = 3

Thus, that's 33 points overall. Thank you, guys! I think I'm going to do more reviews once I know that I don't have to monitor them all. Maybe the whole thing of documenting my reviews sort of put me off. But this time I'll try to get 100%. But, reviewing art is hard! I don't know that much about art and technique! I didn't want to give an uninformed opinion. But thanks guys, anyway. Glad to be in the club.

Excellent reviews! Yep, from now on, your stats will be monitored by the club updater, currently Animith.

At 7/30/10 10:10 PM, Domo wrote: Damm.I leave the best review Ive done in a while and look at what he responds.

Like sixflab, I don't mind too much when someone just says 'Thanks' and maybe comments about something in my review, although I surely enjoy somewhat lengthy responses to my review, I definitely feel like it's more appreciated then, and I always like seeing what people think about my reviews.

This is why when I respond to my reviews, if they're decently sized, I copy and paste the review into my response, and quote parts of it, answering to each part in a bit of detail. Not only do I enjoy doing it, but I'm showing a little more appreciation like that.

At 7/31/10 01:55 AM, lpfann2 wrote: oh wow i just realized how late of a question that is.

lol this was started in 09

Hehe yep, we always check every new member's reviews since that rule came out around a hundred pages ago :P.

So there is no update this week

I would like to you guys review this please:

http://www.newgrounds.com/art/view/spyso ciety/gone-with-the-wind

SpyS.

I made a request and it did not get put on the list so...

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At 7/30/10 10:00 PM, spartacusxerox wrote: Hey guys... just posting my points for the week as part of the initiation process. Thanks for admitting me by the way, guys. Much appreciated.

Reviewed:
The House Mouse by KieranNG = 5+1
biggie the tank engine = 5+1
You Can't Touch Neil Tyson by Alaska = 5+1
John Lennon by up-a-notch = 5+1
-+-Crash And Burn-+- by Hikigane = 5+1
John Lennon = 5+1

Posting once = 3

Thus, that's 33 points overall. Thank you, guys! I think I'm going to do more reviews once I know that I don't have to monitor them all. Maybe the whole thing of documenting my reviews sort of put me off. But this time I'll try to get 100%. But, reviewing art is hard! I don't know that much about art and technique! I didn't want to give an uninformed opinion. But thanks guys, anyway. Glad to be in the club.

Thanks! I'll be keeping track of your points from now on til Steph takes over the updates again :P
Don't worry about not knowing too much; I don't know much about art of flash techniques. Just give your opinion as a viewer! =D

At 7/31/10 03:01 PM, up-a-notch wrote: I made a request and it did not get put on the list so...
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/54 3176

You made 4 requests in one week. The rules say that you can make up to 3 art/flash requests per week, and 3 audio requests per month. That's why it wasn't on the list ;)

Sorry for my poor performance this week, people. I've been through the mill lately, family issues...

At 7/30/10 11:48 AM, up-a-notch wrote: Listen as long as I like how it looks, I am happy...I just would not like it if my art looked to real and had no overfill, I know you don't like how it looks but I do so you can be like that and keep on trying to change me or you could go to a wicked awesome party that rules and has cake and more cake and tubs full of ice cream your choice...i dunno why I said something about a party so don't bother asking.

I'll need to think this through. Also yes, I have absolutely no idea what this has to do with "a party with cake and more cake and tubs full of ice cream", but you told me not to ask you all right.

Why can't I be the master-leader of this Club???

I'm much older and prestative than Animith >:(

Just kidding. The update is going to be tomorrow, huh??

I'll need to think this through. Also yes, I have absolutely no idea what this has to do with "a party with cake and more cake and tubs full of ice cream", but you told me not to ask you all right.

oh dude sorry for the response on your mr.monicle review...really sorry...I was just mad...

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i'll (try to) respond any reviews when i have time.

Hey, I'd appreciate if you guys could review my art. No specific picture, and I don't care if you don't review all 4 of them. One is good enough.

Thank you!

At 7/31/10 05:35 PM, SayYourGoodbyes wrote: Hey, I'd appreciate if you guys could review my art. No specific picture, and I don't care if you don't review all 4 of them. One is good enough.

Thank you!

If you want reviews, we actually have to ask you to be more specific than "any" :P
Post a LINK to the ones you want reviewed here and we'll do that for you :P You can submit up to 3 requests every week. :)

At 7/31/10 04:29 PM, RogerBK wrote: Why can't I be the master-leader of this Club???

I'm much older and prestative than Animith >:(

Just kidding. The update is going to be tomorrow, huh??

ROGERRRR
I'm not the leader, I'm just the person looking at spreadsheets til Steph gets back properly.
Annnd the REQUESTS list will be tomorrow, but I'm not planning on doing a member update til the 8th (which'll have stats for both weeks). Scroll further up the page to see why mate :P

At 7/31/10 04:46 PM, up-a-notch wrote: oh dude sorry for the response on your mr.monicle review...really sorry...I was just mad...

I just realized it... Quite an outburst. I can tell by the way of your madness that you honestly don't like me reviewing your art. If so, just tell me. Be honest. Just so you know, I'm doing it to help you, not for the useless points that I get here. I want you to improve, and that's the sole reason why I'm typing all that text. If you don't want me to review your work, I can understand that. I'm not forcing anyone.

I also have to tell you however that you aren't the maturest requester I've ever seen. If you are making a review request, you need to be ready to be criticized. People are reviewing your work in order to help you, not to use it as an opportunity to take their anger out on you. The people you see here are the least cynical and rude ones you would come across, including myself.

As for the apology, don't worry about it. Regretting a mistake is much more important than having made it in the first place.

Mrty writes

Some very good points

no I want you to review me...and will try to be better about it...sorry

Sorry for not reviewing a lot this week but I was quite busy IRL because of my birthday. Oh well, I managed to get 7 points. Extremely low, I know.

Next week I'm going to review a bit more.

NOTE - READ THESE RULES, EVEN IF YOU HAVE ALREADY READ THE RULES IN THE FIRST POST. THEY ARE AN UPDATED VERSION OF THE RULES IN THE FIRST POST AND THEY HAVE NEW IMPORTANT RULES!

Hello! Welcome to the new Review Request Club thread. This thread is meant to give the club a fresh start and make it a pleasant place to stay. In order to do this, it goes without saying that you must follow the regular BBS rules and read the C&C Advice Thread before posting if you are new to this forum.

This club aims to increase the exposure of the most under-rated Newgrounds music, art and flash artists. The other major purpose of the club is to offer the Newgrounds artists high quality feedback so they can constantly improve their work.

To the requesters:
Every Newgrounds user is allowed to request a review as soon as he submitted something. To get your work reviewed, don't post here without thinking but follow these few rules:

- Post a direct link to the submission(s) you want reviewed.
- Make no more than 3 Flash and Art requests between two updates (that's one week), and no more than 3 Audio Requests between 5 updates (that's four weeks).
- Please respond to reviews, reviewers like it and some of them are statwho... oh wait, interested in stats.
- Be patient. Due to the points system, you may not see reviews until up to two weeks after you requested, or if you requested more than 1 Audio submission, you may not see reviews on your second submission up until 3 weeks after you requested, and you may not see reviews on your third submission up until 4 weeks after you requested.
- Do NOT request without posting a link, be kind, reviewers are not robots.
- Do NOT simply say "Review everything" or just link to your profile.
- Do NOT request reviews for the same submission more than once.
- Do NOT request reviews for a submission with over 50 reviews.
- Do NOT request reviews for spam. Spam is only there to annoy, not to be critically analyzed.
- Unless you are a club member, only request reviews for YOUR OWN submissions.

To the reviewers:
If you want to join the club and complete requests, simply post in the thread saying you would like to join. Then, regular members will go through your reviews and determine if they are good enough to be part of the club. Your reviews are required to be helpful, developed and well-organised. If you need help with writing good reviews, read Fro's guide to writing helpful reviews.

Once you are accepted, you can start reviewing stuff. If you are a new member of the club, once you understand how the point system works, please post - one or two days before the update - the total points you've earned during the week. This is considered as a sort of application form, and if you fail to do so, you will NOT be added to the club.

Points System:
List updaters will keep track of each member's points in order to build a list. You don't need to post your points before each update but you can keep track of your score on your own so any error can be fixed. This is how points are counted:

5 points for a review on a requested submission (movie, game, art, or audio).
1 point for writing "Review Request Club" at the bottom of a requested review.
3 points for posting at least once throughout the two weeks.
5 points for referring a new member (must mention you in first post).
7 points for reviewing all requests/recommendations between two updates.

Club Updates:
Each Sunday or Monday, a list of all the members is created, counting up their points, featuring various stats and posting a list of requested submissions. Assuming you review the submissions in that list, you will get points for them accordingly in the following members' update, around a week later.

Don't forget the lists are built and updated by humans so it may be possible the update is delayed due to various real life reasons. If it ever occurs, don't get mad; calm down and wait :).

Frequently Asked Questions:

Should we have an FAQ?
I don't know. It kinda seems like overkill.

Why a new thread?
The main idea was to give the club a new and fresh start. Since the old one was flooded by requests and not updated any more, the RRC regulars thought creating a new thread would be best for the club.

Should I link to the club in my forum signature?
There's no obligation to do so, but it's certainly appreciated. Remember that you can put a high number in place of the page number in the URL and if that page doesn't exist yet, Newgrounds will take you to the latest page, whatever it is. For example, "http://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic/107 2042/999" will take you to the latest page of this club.

RRC Signature?
Yes, at the end of each review, if you want you can write down 'Review Request Club'. There is no obligation to do so, but you'll get +1 point if you put the RRC signature in your review. You can add anything you want to it, E.G.: *Review Request Club*, |Review Request Club|, -Review Request Club-, etc, but as long as 'Review Request Club' is clearly written, you will get the point. You are also allowed to add the sig in any reviews other than requests in this club, as long as you are a club member yourself. It's all the more exposure for the club, and it's very much appreciated.

+1 point if I put the RRC signature in my review... I'm not sure if I get it correctly.
You gain 6 points for a review on a request with "Review Request Club" in the end of it, as opposed to 5 points if you hadn't added the signature at the end. If it's still not clear, read this.

Does the Review Request Club review for non-NG stuff?
No. It must be an NG submission. If you have a non-NG submission which you would like us to review, then use your common sense and upload it to NG. Also, we will only review using the 'Write a Review' method on submissions. We won't send reviews by PM, review in your newspost or review in any particular thread of yours.

Do I have to review all the requests?
No you don't have to, just do your best :). Though completing them all will give you 7 extra points.

Which requests should I review?
If you want to get points for the next member's update, look for the latest requests list in the club thread and review the requests from that list. If you review any requests from various posts in the thread which would have been posted after the latest requests list, you will be getting points for the member's update after the next one.

can u review allz mah flashz guise? kthxbai.
No.

If you have more questions, feel free to post about it in the thread or PM a member and if your question is frequently asked, it'll be added to the FAQ.

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That's all about the club, though this new version of the club couldn't be opened without mentioning the old thread regulars who have made it a great place to spend time. Kudos to Freelance-Magician for creating the original club and to milinko959 for maintaining it for so long. Thanks also to Sonofkirk for starting this new thread and doing many updates.

Have fun!

Useful links: RRC - The point system, clarified, Fro's Guide to Writing Helpful Reviews, Fro's Guide to Writing Good Reviews

Resources: Old Review Request Club thread, Club info, Google.

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new link, you do me the reviews on this flash? I would like to hear the opinion of most people!

At 7/31/10 07:59 PM, ThePigeonMaster wrote: Sorry for not reviewing a lot this week but I was quite busy IRL because of my birthday. Oh well, I managed to get 7 points. Extremely low, I know.

Personally I just review as much as I wish and not worry about points, as they don't serve any real purpose. If you are reluctantly forcing yourself to do reviews, I wouldn't suggest that. We are all here to help people and have fun while at it.