At 1/13/10 01:43 PM, SpiffyMasta wrote:

At 1/13/10 01:29 PM, Sizzlebuzz wrote:
I already saw the cat. But no secret medal. I will sit there again.

It's not the cat itself, but it has to do with that scene. Pay attention.

That's great, l saw the cat for one second..sure, it was creepy as hell, but as a clue, frankly....

I thought the clue was very obvious.

Just sit there and watch the video. Leave your cursor in the middle of the screen, don't click anything.

At 1/13/10 02:08 PM, waynerz99 wrote: I thought the clue was very obvious.

Just sit there and watch the video. Leave your cursor in the middle of the screen, don't click anything.

....been there, done that.
I'm gonna find it sooner or later...

Bah, got it, saw the word in a random review...l still have absolutely no idea about what it means...
For the sake of other players l'm gonna post it on my userpage.
cheers

What fun is that?
Just being told the word.
It takes all of the fun out of it.

At 1/13/10 02:21 PM, HeavyTank wrote: Bah, got it, saw the word in a random review...l still have absolutely no idea about what it means...
For the sake of other players l'm gonna post it on my userpage.
cheers

Party pooper!

Much more fun to let everyone figure it out on their own.

At 1/13/10 02:41 PM, SpiffyMasta wrote:

Party pooper!

Much more fun to let everyone figure it out on their own.

Are you kidding me?
The guy who wrote the walkthrough is PM'ing the word to anyone who asks, so why not tell it immediately?
At least l'm not pretending to be the "good guy" who doesn't want to horribly "spoil" that game..

At 1/13/10 02:49 PM, HeavyTank wrote: Are you kidding me?
The guy who wrote the walkthrough is PM'ing the word to anyone who asks, so why not tell it immediately?
At least l'm not pretending to be the "good guy" who doesn't want to horribly "spoil" that game..

He doesn't pm the word to anybody. If you want me to show you his pms, you can see yourself.

I haven't pm'ed the word to ANYONE!
I just tell them to find the cheshire cat.

Go flaunt you ignorance elsewhere

Ask any of these people if i told them the word.

http://coop83.newgrounds.com/ He's a mod

http://spiffymasta.newgrounds.com/ And He's got the most medal points on NG

http://kevinchewy.newgrounds.com/

http://alex12345269.newgrounds.com/

http://alexsmith531.newgrounds.com/

http://sanchez150894.newgrounds.com/

http://ivanbb.newgrounds.com/

http://kunstzinnig.newgrounds.com/

At 1/13/10 02:53 PM, SpiffyMasta wrote:

He doesn't pm the word to anybody. If you want me to show you his pms, you can see yourself.

What l know is that whenever someone asks for the word, he just says "check your inbox", and then the guy who asked never posts again (and has the medal on his profile)...what does that mean?

At 1/13/10 02:57 PM, bdash1990 wrote: I haven't pm'ed the word to ANYONE!
I just tell them to find the cheshire cat.

Go flaunt you ignorance elsewhere

lol rage

Ask any of these people if i told them the word.

do you really think l'm gonna do it?

http://coop83.newgrounds.com/ He's a mod

http://spiffymasta.newgrounds.com/ And He's got the most medal points on NG

...aaaand so what?

so you're telling me that these guys figured it out by themselves just because you told them to check the cat...which is what they probably did anyway (and what l did).

Well come on. If anyone had told me you had to look for that word I would have found it. I saw that word like 5 times. I never thought of doing anything with it. Man, I am way too tired.

At 1/13/10 02:59 PM, HeavyTank wrote:

At 1/13/10 02:53 PM, SpiffyMasta wrote:

He doesn't pm the word to anybody. If you want me to show you his pms, you can see yourself.

What l know is that whenever someone asks for the word, he just says "check your inbox", and then the guy who asked never posts again (and has the medal on his profile)...what does that mean?

That means that they figured it out.
And just because they didn't comment twice doesn't mean that I didn't converse with them through PM's.
Ask any of the people that I listed if I gave them the word.

Go ahead. Why don't you start with Coop83

At 1/13/10 02:59 PM, HeavyTank wrote:

At 1/13/10 02:53 PM, SpiffyMasta wrote:

He doesn't pm the word to anybody. If you want me to show you his pms, you can see yourself.

What l know is that whenever someone asks for the word, he just says "check your inbox", and then the guy who asked never posts again (and has the medal on his profile)...what does that mean?

It means that these people are smarter than you and can find the secret medal if you give them a slight clue like "Go find Cheshire Cat".

At 1/13/10 03:03 PM, bdash1990 wrote: That means that they figured it out.

Rrrright.

And just because they didn't comment twice doesn't mean that I didn't converse with them through PM's.

So you were having a conversation with 6 different people at pretty much the same time instead of just saying the damn word?Why would you do that?

Ask any of the people that I listed if I gave them the word.

Go ahead. Why don't you start with Coop83

Because l can't be arsed to do it, that's why.If you're telling the truth, it means that they know something that l don't, because apparently the word is really easy to find out if you know that something l don't...
Whatever, l got the medal, they have the medal, so everyone is happy now.

At 1/13/10 03:06 PM, DigDogy wrote:

At 1/13/10 02:59 PM, HeavyTank wrote: What l know is that whenever someone asks for the word, he just says "check your inbox", and then the guy who asked never posts again (and has the medal on his profile)...what does that mean?

It means that these people are smarter than you and can find the secret medal if you give them a slight clue like "Go find Cheshire Cat".

I smell something burning. ROFL

Seriously, if you wanted to figure out what the hell he was pm ing, you should've asked him yourself. You jumped to conclusions as to what he said. That's called a being a premature jerkoff.

At 1/13/10 03:08 PM, HeavyTank wrote:

At 1/13/10 03:03 PM, bdash1990 wrote: That means that they figured it out.

Rrrright.

And just because they didn't comment twice doesn't mean that I didn't converse with them through PM's.

So you were having a conversation with 6 different people at pretty much the same time instead of just saying the damn word?Why would you do that?

Because there's no point in having a secret medal if you tell everyone.
It's like an easter egg, the fun is in finding it for yourself. if people told you where they are there's no point.
like knowing what you're getting for christmas, why bother to wrap it?

At 1/13/10 03:11 PM, SpiffyMasta wrote:

I smell something burning. ROFL

Naw, l'm not in the mood for that right now...

Seriously, if you wanted to figure out what the hell he was pm ing, you should've asked him yourself. You jumped to conclusions as to what he said. That's called a being a premature jerkoff.

That's called examining the clues and reaching a logical decision..you have to admit, it IS logical, even if may be wrong.
Now what l need to know is what did l need to know to figure that out...if it was related to Alice in Wonderland, then it's no wonder (c wut l did thar) l didn't get it...

At 1/13/10 03:14 PM, bdash1990 wrote:
Because there's no point in having a secret medal if you tell everyone.
It's like an easter egg, the fun is in finding it for yourself. if people told you where they are there's no point.
like knowing what you're getting for christmas, why bother to wrap it?

How many secret medals are NOT revealed in a walkthrough?No, seriously, how many?Check it out and you'll get your answer.
As for the presents, l always ask for anything l might want (when l have the chance to do it of course)..

At 1/13/10 03:20 PM, HeavyTank wrote: How many secret medals are NOT revealed in a walkthrough?No, seriously, how many?Check it out and you'll get your answer.

I'm pretty sure that on Wylo's Wylina page it says, and I quote:

SECRET MEDALS WILL NOT BE REVEALED HERE

The best way to figure out secret medals is to look for a user with all the medals and see which one you are missing.

Revealing secret medals takes the fun out of it. If you don't want to have any fun, then you can do whatever the hell you want.

They're called SECRETS for a reason, right?

At 1/13/10 03:08 PM, HeavyTank wrote:

At 1/13/10 03:03 PM, bdash1990 wrote: Ask any of the people that I listed if I gave them the word.

Go ahead. Why don't you start with Coop83

Because l can't be arsed to do it, that's why.If you're telling the truth, it means that they know something that l don't, because apparently the word is really easy to find out if you know that something l don't...

For what it's worth, I wasn't told the word that was required to unlock said medal. I was just told to find the Cheshire Cat. In retrospect, I think that bdash could include this in the walkthrough under spoiler alerts where it comes to the medal details, but with this in mind, I personally think it's a good way to deal with this, because especially in linear point and click games, it doesn't feel like you've accomplished anything until you've worked out the medals yourself, which I still feel I've done.

At 1/13/10 03:29 PM, SpiffyMasta wrote:
I'm pretty sure that on Wylo's Wylina page it says, and I quote:

SECRET MEDALS WILL NOT BE REVEALED HERE

That's because there aren't any actual walkthroughs on that page...but if you check the links, most of them contain spoilers about secret medals.

Revealing secret medals takes the fun out of it. If you don't want to have any fun, then you can do whatever the hell you want.

I don't really think so.Maybe it takes the "OMG I ACTUALLY FOUND IT" out of it, but as for the fun factor, l dunno.

They're called SECRETS for a reason, right?

I guess so, but if someone wants to spoil his fun it's his right, right?

At 1/13/10 03:32 PM, HeavyTank wrote:
I guess so, but if someone wants to spoil his fun it's his right, right?

Yea, that's why I said you can do whatever the hell you want, just warn people about it, so that only those that really want to know see it.

At 1/13/10 03:34 PM, SpiffyMasta wrote: Yea, that's why I said you can do whatever the hell you want, just warn people about it, so that only those that really want to know see it.

Yeah, of course, that's why you can simply say "spoilar alert"...
By the way, Basting Agent seems really tough...but the medals don't work yet, right?

At 1/13/10 03:32 PM, Coop83 wrote:

At 1/13/10 03:08 PM, HeavyTank wrote:

At 1/13/10 03:03 PM, bdash1990 wrote: Ask any of the people that I listed if I gave them the word.

Go ahead. Why don't you start with Coop83

Because l can't be arsed to do it, that's why.If you're telling the truth, it means that they know something that l don't, because apparently the word is really easy to find out if you know that something l don't...

For what it's worth, I wasn't told the word that was required to unlock said medal. I was just told to find the Cheshire Cat. In retrospect, I think that bdash could include this in the walkthrough under spoiler alerts where it comes to the medal details, but with this in mind, I personally think it's a good way to deal with this, because especially in linear point and click games, it doesn't feel like you've accomplished anything until you've worked out the medals yourself, which I still feel I've done.

Being told to look for a word would have made me more aware of a word. Being told to look for a cat made me think it has something to do with the cat itself. I played that game 3 times. I saw the word needed like 5 times. When I finally read what needed to be done, I still felt like I had accomplished it.

Point and click games are fun either way.

At 1/13/10 03:34 PM, SpiffyMasta wrote:

At 1/13/10 03:32 PM, HeavyTank wrote:
I guess so, but if someone wants to spoil his fun it's his right, right?

Yea, that's why I said you can do whatever the hell you want, just warn people about it, so that only those that really want to know see it.

Which is why I encourage people to find it with as little help as possible.

Secrets make the medals fun and interesting. People want those medals more than regular medals because they are secret.

Nobody would care about area 51 if you could go on tours of it. or at least not be as interested.
It's the idea of having what most don't. It makes people feel a little bit special.if only for a little while.
The difference between "Hey, I just beat the game and got a medal that THOUSANDS of other NG'ers have"
and "Hey I just earned a secret medal that only a few hundred NG'ers have."

I feel special being one of (if not the) first person to get that secret medal. If Spiffy got it before me and just told me, it's like "whoop-de-doo"/sarcasm.
The fun is in punching your desk or the wall/banging you head against the wall until you finally get the medal.

At 1/13/10 03:49 PM, bdash1990 wrote:

The difference between "Hey, I just beat the game and got a medal that THOUSANDS of other NG'ers have"
and "Hey I just earned a secret medal that only a few hundred NG'ers have."

The only medals that only a few people have are the ones that are either very hard or very grindy...

The fun is in punching your desk or the wall/banging you head against the wall until you finally get the medal.

Well, if that's your idea of fun, who am l to stop you from doing it? :D

At 1/13/10 03:51 PM, HeavyTank wrote:

At 1/13/10 03:49 PM, bdash1990 wrote:

The difference between "Hey, I just beat the game and got a medal that THOUSANDS of other NG'ers have"
and "Hey I just earned a secret medal that only a few hundred NG'ers have."

The only medals that only a few people have are the ones that are either very hard or very grindy...

Which is why they matter more than other medals. Because those people had the dedication to earn those medals. If you could just be told the password to get those insane medals, then they wouldn't be insane anymore.

The fun is in punching your desk or the wall/banging you head against the wall until you finally get the medal.

Well, if that's your idea of fun, who am l to stop you from doing it? :D

exactly. So why ruin other's fun by telling them the secret?

At 1/13/10 03:20 PM, HeavyTank wrote: Now what l need to know is what did l need to know to figure that out...if it was related to Alice in Wonderland, then it's no wonder (c wut l did thar) l didn't get it...

You were given the correct hints, heck, you were even doing the correct thing. You just lack patience, young padawan. Yet another clue. Obvious enough now?

This whole argument over who pms secret medal info and who reveals them in walkthroughs etc. is plain silly.

At 1/13/10 03:58 PM, queenofbabes wrote:

This whole argument over who pms secret medal info and who reveals them in walkthroughs etc. is plain silly.

Seeing as how NEITHER happened.
You're right it is stupid.

you must be a woman. cause no dude say silly on the forums. actually no dude says silly EVER.

Oh Shi..

At 1/13/10 03:58 PM, queenofbabes wrote:
You were given the correct hints, heck, you were even doing the correct thing. You just lack patience, young padawan. Yet another clue. Obvious enough now?

Yah, l probably do lack patience...next time, l'll try to earn my secrets by bashing my head on the wall, Master.