At 7/6/09 02:03 PM, HeavyTank wrote: And seriously, l DON'T want to start a flame war.
Please.
Stop talking shit about me and l'll do the same.

Telling the other person to put away their guns after you've just taken several shots does not a man make =P

I think that this game suffers from the Band Wagon effect. People are hating it because other people do, rather than taking their own view on the game.
If you can't think of at least one or two positive aspects of the new game, you're either suffering from this effect and/or you're a horribly stubborn person with a one-track mind.
You're entitled to your opinion, but please make sure that it is yours!

Either way, I quite enjoy the punishing aspect of Lastman. The game reminds me of others much like it, such as the Mario levels mentioned and I Wanna Be The Guy; a game so random and frustrating that it is considered hilariously so by its now massive fanbase.
And what is so cruel about rewarding the people who endure it? If someone gets those medals, you really can't discredit the person with "that game is too hard; the medals don't deserve to exist". That is just unfair to the people that do enjoy it and go out of their way to win.

Waaaaah! Can someone help?

At 7/6/09 03:00 PM, PikaRobo wrote: Waaaaah! Can someone help?

Just so you know, Its much harder then it looks because the picture is more narrow then the actual obstacle.

At 7/6/09 02:49 PM, Alex12345269 wrote: Not even going to go for medals anymore, they won't register at all anymore. I've tried absolutely everything. Until I get a new computer my score stays as it is.

Well, as PsychoGoldfish stated a couple months back-- if AK medals still register for you, then it's a problem on your side. And it usually it regardless, to be honest.

Should some of us chip in and assist Wylina in making a separate newspost for Windows/Mac/Firefox/IE/Lynx methods of rectifying such situations? Or has that been done and I overlooked it?

At 7/6/09 02:45 PM, HeavyTank wrote: Oh, and if the purpose of the medals wasn't to troll people why do 1/2 users complain about it?
Do you think it's normal?

No I don't think it's normal! Why would we make a stupid game like all the other ones out there? Making something different is of our own artistic integrity. If we wanted to please the masses we'd name it Mario Clone 9999 and make it easy as shit

Doomsday-one please have my babies

Lastman is a fucking awesome game. It's frustrating as hell, but it's got that old-school charm where every jump mastered is a reward in itself. Personally, I think it's a perfect game for the medal system. It's fun and full of charm, but with out the medals most people would play for five minutes get bored and never look back. The medals force people to take a second look at games that wouldn't normally get attention, which is great for authors who try to do something different. I think that's a more important function of the medals than keeping stat-whores happy.

Sure, as far as unlocking the medals go, some people are going to cheat, but fuck 'em. They know they didn't earn anything and when I finally finish it I'll know I did it the right way and that's more important than what a bunch of anonymous douchebags on the internet think. No offense.

At 7/6/09 02:56 PM, Doomsday-One wrote:
Telling the other person to put away their guns after you've just taken several shots does not a man make =P

Hey, you read his last post, it's not like l insulted him to death without any prompt and then run away...

I think that this game suffers from the Band Wagon effect. People are hating it because other people do, rather than taking their own view on the game.

Nope, l swear to you that this is my view of the game...l don't like it.
Sure, l'll admit that it has some old-school charm n it, but it is taken away by the traps that you really can't predict...

If you can't think of at least one or two positive aspects of the new game, you're either suffering from this effect and/or you're a horribly stubborn person with a one-track mind.

Well yeah, it is fun if you don't play it for 30 minutes straight (like l did) and l guess the level design is OK...but not the traps, that's where my problem is!

You're entitled to your opinion, but please make sure that it is yours!

Indeed

Either way, I quite enjoy the punishing aspect of Lastman. The game reminds me of others much like it, such as the Mario levels mentioned and I Wanna Be The Guy; a game so random and frustrating that it is considered hilariously so by its now massive fanbase.

w00t, another masochist.
Boy, there are a lot more than l thought out there...

And what is so cruel about rewarding the people who endure it? If someone gets those medals, you really can't discredit the person with "that game is too hard; the medals don't deserve to exist". That is just unfair to the people that do enjoy it and go out of their way to win.

I absolutely agree with this, if someone earns it well...lol, he earned it!
Eh, well, the fun part is that there will be a few people getting it but the others will be jealous...but if you can't have something rightfully, you cheat to have it.
Unfortunately this will be the case with our beloved gdshfgsh...as always...
Anyway l guess your post made me calm down, but l still support my opinion 100%.Just to let you know.

At 7/6/09 03:05 PM, Starogre wrote: No I don't think it's normal! Why would we make a stupid game like all the other ones out there? Making something different is of our own artistic integrity. If we wanted to please the masses we'd name it Mario Clone 9999 and make it easy as shit

Well, you can't really say that games like red moon or portal defenders were easy (now they seem easy to us, but the first time l though that l would never beat them) but they were fun as hell...
To make a game please the masses you musn't make it "easy as shit"...just more...how to say it...accessible.
Not all the other games are crowd pleasers, but they can be both challenging and fun...

Doomsday-one please have my babies

lol

At 7/6/09 03:00 PM, PikaRobo wrote: Waaaaah! Can someone help?

Lol...please tell me how long you've left the game like that, afraid to go any further.

At 7/6/09 03:35 PM, PiGPEN wrote:

At 7/6/09 03:00 PM, PikaRobo wrote: Waaaaah! Can someone help?

Lol...please tell me how long you've left the game like that, afraid to go any further.

Well l suppose that he mustn't step on the "x" block so..well...you're pretty much screwed up, l think that you should've made a run...but this game won't let you go back so...

At 7/6/09 03:35 PM, PiGPEN wrote:

At 7/6/09 03:00 PM, PikaRobo wrote: Waaaaah! Can someone help?

Lol...please tell me how long you've left the game like that, afraid to go any further.

I tried to make it a few times,but I can't figure it out. Some people don't even make it this far.

That particular X block turns out to be a spring, but, with a running start from the left, it is possible to jump straight to the next spring.

I recommend watching PiGPEN's walkthrough.

Well, I booted up the game, and after the usual dozen losses, the game started acting weird when I started playing it again. I took 2 pictures, the first part of the game, and the game over screen, as I can't get past that anymore. I suggest someone look into this. >.>

At 7/6/09 04:05 PM, Another-User wrote: Well, I booted up the game, and after the usual dozen losses, the game started acting weird when I started playing it again. I took 2 pictures, the first part of the game, and the game over screen, as I can't get past that anymore. I suggest someone look into this. >.>

haha i showed pigpen the same glitch during beta testing. i think it has something to do with the still-beta NG ads. reloading the game SHOULD work cus it doesn't do it to me anymore

At 7/6/09 04:05 PM, Another-User wrote: Well, I booted up the game, and after the usual dozen losses, the game started acting weird when I started playing it again. I took 2 pictures, the first part of the game, and the game over screen, as I can't get past that anymore. I suggest someone look into this. >.>

Someone still managed to get the ad glitch :[
Well known to myself and starogre....and i informed psychogoldfish about it but he doesnt seem to know either. It's a glitch with the NG Ad API that happens if the ad isnt loaded correctly multiple times.....which is why when ads are shown theres a 10 second wait period.

I've never gotten this far before. Any tips on what to expect immediately after this part?

At 7/6/09 04:09 PM, Starogre wrote: haeha i showed pigpen the same glitch during beta testing. i think it has something to do with the still-beta NG ads. reloading the game SHOULD work cus it doesn't do it to me anymore

That explains it, it appears right after getting one of the adds, and the next time I got an ad, I had a fully black screen for the game, and the game over screen looked the same. At least it's a known bug, I was expecting to get accused of photoshopping it or something. =P

At 7/6/09 04:13 PM, Duffle wrote: I've never gotten this far before. Any tips on what to expect immediately after this part?

Now I'm right at the part where PiGPEN died in his video. Anyone who has gotten farther, what's next?

At 7/6/09 04:43 PM, Duffle wrote: what's next?

Glory.

At 7/6/09 04:49 PM, PiGPEN wrote:

At 7/6/09 04:43 PM, Duffle wrote: what's next?

Glory.

I don't care what all those flamers say, I find this game challenging and fun.

I'm assuming the boss is very close. Is there some sort of strategy here, besides jumping and not dying?

Yeah not dying would be a good plan at this point.

At 7/6/09 05:03 PM, PiGPEN wrote: Yeah not dying would be a good plan at this point.

I was not expecting rockets, crabs, armadillos, AND springs to be next. Nice move, PiGPEN. A death like that won't happen twice.

Uhhh guys.. i have some terrible news about that LastMan game...

Its impossible to beat. Literally. I got to the end.

The end says, "YOUR A MEDAL FAGGOT LOLLLLLL"

lolololololol

I havent gotten past the half way marker yet. :'(

WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF.

I BEAT YOUR FREAKING GAME PIGPEN. NOW WHY THE HELL DID IT STOP THE MEDAL POPUP MOVIE CLIP AND NOT GIVE ME THE MEDAL!?

See, here is the ending screen. Now that medal popping up over there STOPPED as a glitch or something. I has no medal now and I are sad.

Pffttt.

At 7/6/09 05:47 PM, FatKidWitAJetPak wrote: WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF.

I BEAT YOUR FREAKING GAME PIGPEN. NOW WHY THE HELL DID IT STOP THE MEDAL POPUP MOVIE CLIP AND NOT GIVE ME THE MEDAL!?

See, here is the ending screen. Now that medal popping up over there STOPPED as a glitch or something. I has no medal now and I are sad.

Pffttt.

Reap what you sow cheater!

At 7/6/09 05:51 PM, PiGPEN wrote: Reap what you sow cheater!

Yeah, I have serious doubts that anyone without the 127 deaths medal is going to complete the game. I'm at about 400 here and I'm about 60% of the way through.
But in all seriousness, I think I finally get what Pig is saying about "Appealing to the hardcore crowd", as I, an avid fan of games like Touhou, would love it if a game similar to it came out with medals. Most people would probably have a heart attack and die on the first level. >.>

At 7/6/09 05:55 PM, Another-User wrote:

At 7/6/09 05:51 PM, PiGPEN wrote: Reap what you sow cheater!

Yeah, I have serious doubts that anyone without the 127 deaths medal is going to complete the game.

Why? The death counter is resetted every time you close the window. So maybe a user dies about 100 times on day 1, closes the game, dies another 100 on day 2, closes the game, dies 40 times on day 3, beats it on day 4. No "127 deaths"-medal achieved, but yet the game is beaten.

At 7/6/09 06:00 PM, Haggard wrote: Why? The death counter is resetted every time you close the window. So maybe a user dies about 100 times on day 1, closes the game, dies another 100 on day 2, closes the game, dies 40 times on day 3, beats it on day 4. No "127 deaths"-medal achieved, but yet the game is beaten.

Actually, it does carry over. Lastman actually creates a save file that I assume is what is used to track deaths in the game. Now it might be possible if the person deletes the .sol file every single time they quit the game, but I highly doubt a person would go through that much trouble. >.>

At 7/6/09 06:08 PM, Another-User wrote:

At 7/6/09 06:00 PM, Haggard wrote: Why? The death counter is resetted every time you close the window. So maybe a user dies about 100 times on day 1, closes the game, dies another 100 on day 2, closes the game, dies 40 times on day 3, beats it on day 4. No "127 deaths"-medal achieved, but yet the game is beaten.

Actually, it does carry over.

If that's the case, I stand corrected. -.-

Well, it might still be possible. Or maybe the medal popped up but didn't register. Wouldn't be the first time that this is happening.

It could be possible for someone to beat the game before they got the 127 deaths medal. The medal could not be working for them, or they could have practiced the game while not logged in. That being said, I do think that most, if not all people who beat the game fairly will have that medal.

Has anyone actually beat it legitimately yet? If not, what is the farthest anyone has gotten?