At 7/5/09 01:14 PM, EggSaladSandwich wrote: So I got EPICHEROES(Beat the game with all 6 heroes) But never got my 4MUSKETEER medal for beating it with just 4...Any advice on a way I could get that short of clearing my saved data and re-doing 4 of the heroes?

i think that medal is broken, so just wait.

For all of you saying this game is challenging, it's as challenging as Runes of Whatever, or Duckhunt. Honestly. Where's the challenge in mindless jumping and landing?

Spewer was challenging. This is just bullshit.

At 7/5/09 01:32 PM, KrevZabijak wrote: Where's the challenge in mindless jumping and landing?

Where's the challenge in mindless jumping and landing?
mindless jumping and landing

At 7/5/09 02:12 PM, PiGPEN wrote: whargarbl

Hey!!! PiGPEN just made a game with medals involving Luigi and/or Mario!! You heard it here first, see his above post for a screenshot!!!!
I had no idea!!!! Since when?

Thanks for letting us know with that informative post completely relevant to the point I was making, and double thanks for your well-worded explanation and point/counterpoint disassembling soliloquy of eloquence that so daintily extrapolated on the chaotic nature of medal games and th... oh wait sorry, you just quoted and chopped like a /b/tard.

This is why we can't have nice things.

I don't think that lastman is bullshit, persay but I do think the controls are kind of sketchy. I could care less about good graphics. The ad's were terrible and are now at least a little better. I just wonder...has any major brand of disinfectant or germ killer (whatever that mochi ad is) ever made noticable profitby advertising on a flash game? If anything the irritaion that would come with playing this game coupled with the ad taking time out of me trying to beat the game, I would probably buy a competing brand. I understand that the Ad rep from that specific company isn't talking directly to Pigpen and saying sure we'll advertise on last man. But they should think about those things!

epic war 3 is glitched
4MUKETEEER IS BROKEN
and i completed the game 100%
and i only have 29 cards

At 7/5/09 02:26 PM, KrevZabijak wrote: whargarbl

Hey, KrevZabijak (whatever the fuck that means) just made a reply to PiGPEN's post but offered no counter point in the entire thing! Maybe he could learn a thing or two about making games and suggest constructive criticism next time!

At 7/5/09 01:32 PM, KrevZabijak wrote: Where's the challenge in mindless jumping and landing?
Spewer was challenging. This is just bullshit.

Depends on how exactly you define "challenging".

All plattformers are "mindless jumping and landing" and yet I bet some of them are so challenging that you can't beat them without practicing hard.

So did we ever find out if the "Someone Set Us Up With The Bomb" Medal worked or not, does anyone have it?

Also side note, I PM'd artlogicgames(Epic War 3) to see if they could put in a "Confirm Medals" button. Waiting for reply. I think that all medal games with saved data should have one. Or at least the ones that take a long time to beat no matter how good you are at it.

At 7/5/09 03:57 PM, EggSaladSandwich wrote: So did we ever find out if the "Someone Set Us Up With The Bomb" Medal worked or not, does anyone have it?

i've seen it on a couple of profiles. I earned it tons of times when the medal wasn't working and now I can't 3 in a row.

Man, I like that Lastman game. Reminds me of I Wanna Be The Guy...

At 7/5/09 07:07 PM, Alex12345269 wrote: Lastman is another example of how medals are just turning into a way to torture us and waste our time to get them. First OCD+, now this pile of shit.

Actually he just wanted to make a hard game. Medals were put in as a way to reward the brave warriors who battled their way through the game. To have MEDALS THAT MEDAL WHORES LIKE YOU WILL NEVER HAVE is a great achievement!!

Says the kid with 845 points.

At 7/5/09 08:48 PM, KrevZabijak wrote: Says the kid with 845 points.

I don't know if that's an insult or a compliment

I'll take it as a compliment though because I pride myself in not spending all my time beating every single overrated flash game on the internet

So what you are saying is "I can release an incredibly hard game, and then proceed to annoy the people playing it because sense the game has medals, they will never be able to stop. When they complain, I can act like I am superior to them and they still can't so anything about it!"
At least Pigpen wasn't a dick, although he did get annoyed. You sir, are a dick, with the same mindset of the person who made OCD+. Now ironically, I'm going to go back to playing Lastman because I have a one-track mind who needs his medal points, and I because can't do anything about your decision to release and extraordinarily hard medal game.

At least it's better than Stickya.

At 7/5/09 09:32 PM, Another-User wrote: So what you are saying is "I can release an incredibly hard game, and then proceed to annoy the people playing it because sense the game has medals, they will never be able to stop. When they complain, I can act like I am superior to them and they still can't so anything about it!"
At least Pigpen wasn't a dick, although he did get annoyed. You sir, are a dick, with the same mindset of the person who made OCD+. Now ironically, I'm going to go back to playing Lastman because I have a one-track mind who needs his medal points, and I because can't do anything about your decision to release and extraordinarily hard medal game.

At least it's better than Stickya.

First, I didn't design the game. He gave me sprites of the characters and I did box art.

Second, no that is not what I am saying. I am saying medals have nothing to do with the game. You people with over 11k medal points don't understand. The game is satisfying to beat because it's very difficult, not because there are medals. I'm sorry to say but nobody cares how many medal points you have. Beating the game should be enough satisfaction in your skill level rather than adding more points to your worthless library of flash game guides. Until Newgrounds gives store credit or something for medal points, they are worthless and THEY, sir, are the ones sucking your time away and laughing in your faces.

Third, I didn't design the game.

At 7/5/09 09:40 PM, Starogre wrote: First, I didn't design the game. He gave me sprites of the characters and I did box art.

I will be honest, that box art is hilarious, the look on the guy's face is priceless.

Second, no that is not what I am saying. I am saying medals have nothing to do with the game. You people with over 11k medal points don't understand.

I beg to differ, the medals have a A LOT to do with the game. Do you honestly think so many people would be playing such a frustrating game so many times if it wasn't for medals? While you might not think it, but the medal-whores are basically 90% of the people playing the game right now, and the number keeps getting higher as the non-medal whores rage quit. =/

The game is satisfying to beat because it's very difficult, not because there are medals.

Now are are splitting hairs. The reason it is satisfying is because it is difficult to beat. The reason anyone will beat it is for the medals. I can guarantee you that nobody with a medal score under 6000 will get the medal on your game.

I'm sorry to say but nobody cares how many medal points you have.

You sound like one of those people with 20 posts saying a post count isn't very important, it's so cute. ^_^

Beating the game should be enough satisfaction in your skill level rather than adding more points to your worthless library of flash game guides.

Once again, splitting hairs. People will be satisfied they got the medal. How do you do that? Beating the game. Every single time a person brags about getting the medal, that is pretty much the same satisfaction of beating the game, albeit with a different name.

Until Newgrounds gives store credit or something for medal points, they are worthless and THEY, sir, are the ones sucking your time away and laughing in your faces.

Medal points are a reward on their own. You talk about the satisfaction of beating a challenging game, yet say that getting a difficult medal to a challenging game is a waste of time. Where is the line drawn?

Third, I didn't design the game.

I'm still choosing to be bitter at you, just because whether you made the game or not, someone with a "holier-than-thou" attitude like yours makes by blood boil. >=/

Oh hi gu-Uh oh, I'm outta here.

At 7/5/09 02:33 PM, gdfsgdfg wrote: epic war 3 is glitched
4MUKETEEER IS BROKEN
and i completed the game 100%
and i only have 29 cards

Your missing the meteor card. Not sure if it makes a difference, but I got the card on my last conquest. I think it was orange. If you completed the game 100%, you should of gotten it.

On a side note, that guy took a VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY long time. But by the time you get done, your deck is awesome. Just too bad the best the rarest cards are almost useless. Exception to berserker. That is handy, just too bad I did that cave trial last lol, cave trial 4 wouldn't of been so bad.

At 7/5/09 09:53 PM, Another-User wrote: You sound like one of those people with 20 posts saying a post count isn't very important, it's so cute. ^_^

Sign up date is the only thing I care about. It's permanent and does not change. As a user that is...As a developer I'd look deeper into their submissions, if they have any.... My medals panel is at the bottom of my page for a reason

I'm still choosing to be bitter at you, just because whether you made the game or not, someone with a "holier-than-thou" attitude like yours makes by blood boil. >=/

I'm still choosing to say that a hard game is hard for the people that breeze through every other game out there, not for medal whores. The controls are different from Mario for that reason.

It boils my blood wondering if you're being serious about how important medal points are. I'm sure it's because you're scared that a fellow peer will beat it and surpass you in points, but it's okay because you'll find something worthwhile to do eventually.

At 7/5/09 10:12 PM, Starogre wrote: Sign up date is the only thing I care about. It's permanent and does not change. As a user that is...As a developer I'd look deeper into their submissions, if they have any.... My medals panel is at the bottom of my page for a reason

So what you are saying is "I only look into things that I already am really good in, and use that as the only comparison between two people!"
Wow, how egomaniac of you. >.>

I'm still choosing to say that a hard game is hard for the people that breeze through every other game out there, not for medal whores. The controls are different from Mario for that reason.

I've already said your game was hard, and you are not personally out to get medal whores. I have said that considering we are the only ones really playing your game, you could not be a dick towards them. However, they are so obsessed over medals, pretty much no matter what you do, people can't do anything about it.

It boils my blood wondering if you're being serious about how important medal points are. I'm sure it's because you're scared that a fellow peer will beat it and surpass you in points, but it's okay because you'll find something worthwhile to do eventually.

Actually, I have doubts I'm even in the top 50, my medal points value actually sucks. Now I love how you keep playing the "They aren't that important card" when I could easily say 1/3 of all the times Jumpman has been played it was by people doing it solely for the medal. In turn, 33% of your ad revenue for that game comes from medal-whores. Ironically, no matter how you act towards the people allowing this, they will still keep coming back at a shot for the medals.

I should make a game where there is a 100 point medal, and all a person has to do is watch ads a few dozen times. If only I could program something more sophisticated than Pong...

My complaint two pages ago wasn't necessarily about the game. I found the game fun, but I'll never come around to beat it. Nothing really bothered me, except for the hit box (when -you- get hit). The game bothered me in the beginning, and then I realized the "a" button was for running. I mean, to be honest, it would have been nice to know that because I pressed "a" to see what it did, confused and just frustrated at the game.

I don't think I'm a huge medal wh0r3, since I don't always try to go for medals I should have earned, but I think I'm not below 6000 (because I'm not). I think people gung-ho on medals will be frustrated at the game, and people who'd like to experience a kaizo mario world kind of game will get a kick out of it. I don't consider myself a hardcore gamer in this way, knowing my place.

Do I think the game deserves medals? No, I personally don't think so. If I did, then I would say have a medal for a half-way point. Why? It would actually serve somewhat as a checkpoint, and I think few people will get that far. I really feel that the "easy" games with the "simple" medals are all right, as long as their medal points' worth are worth it. The current 100 value of beating the boss seems low and not worth it, considering that, besides Alkie Kong 2, there's nothing that really tries to push gamers to the limit.

Do I think the game is fun? Of course! I can enjoy a platformer to a certain extent. It was a nice platformer with graphics reminiscent of the 8-bit era and a difficulty harder than any games out today.

The one thing I'd like though is a better medal system with someone regulating the system. I understand that the games themselves are in beta, but I think there should be a beta testing team before these games can even officially have medals. I am the kind of person who likes playing games, and if I played for the medals, and I've actually earned the medals, and they don't show up, I'd hate to try to play the game again. Medals are an addition to the game, not just a separate system for bragging rights, but they also help remind a person the achievement they reached. Like many of you, I'm sure we all play games, whether or not they have medals, even if you're a medal wh0r3. You're not going to remember what you've accomplished without this system, so it really helps oneself and others. It then lets people talk with others, essentially helping them, letting others enjoy the game even more, because you know that the person you're talking with has actually completed a set quota. My biggest gripe is that there might be some people who actually do get to the end of this game and beat the boss, only to find out that either the medal is bugged or you needed to clear your cache. If medals themselves weren't so buggy, then I think this game should have the medals (that I feel are worth more than 100 points). I mean, I enjoy games as much as the next person, but when you play something as challenging as this game, which is meant to be difficult, then it takes away the fun when you're playing solely for medals, which is the biggest reason why OCD+ has so many complaints, -because- a lot of us medal wh0r3s still love playing for the games themselves.

It's not my game, why would I consider medal points in the same category as artistic creations?, and obviously you don't know how little money is being made off of this. We weren't sponsored by anyone and made it for fun because we enjoy this type of game. We're giving something to a small population who enjoy things like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r86NLwCYX fk . Putting medals in wasn't my decision but if you really hate the game so much, stop playing it and don't complain. It's not impossible, just difficult. It's like shoving razors up your own fingernails and complaining to the person who gave you razors. That logic is almost fit for comedic interpretation

I fully agree with pinoyisazn. People can have medals. I really don't think there should be a point system, though. Having certain medals should be saying enough about your skill level and talk about the latest games. Points make it competitive which makes people abuse games like drugs instead of having fun. I'm sure it's a ploy of Newgrounds' system to get more regular visitors, but people need to relax and beat games just to beat them not to earn every single medal in a game, especially clicking tiny buttons during movies and crap. Seriously....quit complaining and play the games you like religiously, not every single game like it's a chore. No one is making you do it!

why make a game hard and annoying? At least add some fun elements and not make the game look like utter shit so more people play it. Alkie Kong was just as hard, if not harder, but at least PGF added good graphics and interesting scenarios.

I didn't play this thing for more than two minutes solely because of how crappy the graphics where and I don't waste time on a game that looks like no effort was put in it.

I don't care what game has medals as long as they work as they should and the game isn't glitched.

Only thing I hold against the Lastman game is the glitch where you die 50% of the time when you attack an armadillo that's balled up to kick it. Also, the going above the top the screen sends you to the bottom and then you die, which I don't know if it is an important game mechanic since I can't past this one part either due to it or am I supposed to use it.

Oh, and no mute button for annoying sound effects?

OK, so here we go:

PigPen
Lol, ok.... but i like superhard games and i provided medals not for you statwhores but as a badge of honor for the few platforming-gods/masochists who will eventually be able to actually beat this game.

And it really isnt right to compare this to OCD+......OCD+ is like Takeshi's Challenge or that unreleased Penn & Teller game.....Lastman is like SMB2 or Makai Mura or any of those superhard mario hacks.
Learn the difference....it could save your life.

Ah, so you're saying that this game is for the elite gamers and the rest can just go to hell?
That, my friend, is racism.
Games should be for everyone to play (and fun, but that's another story).

Starogre
I'm sorry but you guys are all fucking idiots. The game is hard because he wanted it to be. Beating a challenging game is much more rewarding than beating tons of shitty easy ones. I love playing the hacked Super Mario World levels that are really hard to beat because the satisfaction of beating them is much greater than most of the easy as shit games on Newgrounds. And the medals are just something to show for it in case you weren't screenrecording yourself during that run.

Being super easy is one thing, being almost unbeatable is another.
Also, as l said before, making a game that only a few people can enjoy and even less people can beat is just stupid and unfair to all the other gamers.

We shouldn't have to be posting in a forum corralling medal whores so congrats to those who beat the game and a big middle finger to those who think it's a huge ordeal and the game must be burned to hell for how hard it is. Grow a pair.

You can put that middle finger up your nose because this is just plain trolling and this post proves it.

Another post by him
don't know if that's an insult or a compliment

I'll take it as a compliment though because I pride myself in not spending all my time beating every single overrated flash game on the internet

There you go!Again, proff that you're trolling.
You don't give a fucking shit about medal games so you don't give a fucking shit about not getting these medals...but some people do.
I hate how an idiot with less than 1000 points pops up here every now and then and says :OMG medal whores why do you care so much lol.
It's like playing an online game for the first time and asking people why do they complain about a new update/nerf or whatever.
Get an idea of what this is a bout and then you have the right to talk.

Another-user
So what you are saying is "I can release an incredibly hard game, and then proceed to annoy the people playing it because sense the game has medals, they will never be able to stop. When they complain, I can act like I am superior to them and they still can't so anything about it!"
At least Pigpen wasn't a dick, although he did get annoyed. You sir, are a dick, with the same mindset of the person who made OCD+. Now ironically, I'm going to go back to playing Lastman because I have a one-track mind who needs his medal points, and I because can't do anything about your decision to release and extraordinarily hard medal game.

At least it's better than Stickya.

I agree with your post but l would have to disagree on the part about Stickya since tha game is MUCH, MUCH easier (now l can get YMBC anytime) and more fun too since it has some humour and variety.
This game is boring, has crap graphics (with the excuse of wanting to make them look "retro") and is impossibly hard.

Wylo
I don't care what game has medals as long as they work as they should and the game isn't glitched.

Oh, and no mute button for annoying sound effects?

Yay, and we now have a loser attitude (read: ATTITUDE, l am not saying that you're a loser).
So you are actually OK with a game that probably 2 or 3 users wil beat?

OK l'm done.
Have fun replying to this.

Ok I figured out in lastman that speed is everything. I can get up to the part where there are 3 of those cannon shooter things lined up but still can only get to the block in between the second and third before getting stuck. I also got the die 127 times medal and it didn't unlock which kinda pisses me off cause i spent a good 45 minutes dying that many times.

I'm done with medals...too many bullshit flashes getting them and it is growing even more seemingly pointless to get them. They were fun while they lasted.

At 7/6/09 03:24 AM, HeavyTank wrote: Ah, so you're saying that this game is for the elite gamers and the rest can just go to hell?
That, my friend, is racism.

Lol??
So "gamers" are a race? Maybe you should look up those words before you use them carelessly.

Wylo
I don't care what game has medals as long as they work as they should and the game isn't glitched.

Oh, and no mute button for annoying sound effects?

Yay, and we now have a loser attitude (read: ATTITUDE, l am not saying that you're a loser).
So you are actually OK with a game that probably 2 or 3 users wil beat?

Where's the fun if there where only games that everyone could beat and the only thing that can bring you to the top of the medal points list isn't skill but how much time you can sink into those games?

Seriously, all this bitching about "how hard" the game is, is just annoying.

At 7/6/09 01:04 AM, Wylo wrote: Only thing I hold against the Lastman game is the glitch where you die 50% of the time when you attack an armadillo that's balled up to kick it.

Not a glitch, stop running into it...being on past it's midpoint in the direction it is moving = death.

Also, the going above the top the screen sends you to the bottom and then you die.

Not a glitch, fear the warp ceiling zones.