At 7/28/03 12:05 AM, TheJoe324 wrote:

At 7/28/03 12:02 AM, Recon_Rebel wrote: No kidding? I had the gold for about 30 minutes! Haha! I notice the deity whistle has been passed around a few times.

Yeah.. that was like, at the beginning of the system, no one really had a huge amount of "review points" (or whatever they are) now since its been around for a while, a few people have a really large amount of points, so it will be hard for other people to get gold.

Hey, you and ramagi are review mods right? Sorry if that slipped by me TheJoe324 but I've been kinda busy lately, even my voting has dropped off.

Im currious want can reveiw mods do, and how do you become a reveiw mod this whole differnet mod style is new to me can someone explain it to me please....

Allota bad reveiws for buttplug....
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view.php?id=8225

Lot of em here http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view.php?id=101059

At 7/28/03 07:02 PM, the_phantom_spancker wrote: Im currious want can reveiw mods do, and how do you become a reveiw mod this whole differnet mod style is new to me can someone explain it to me please....

I can do that..I sure I'll see you on MSN or AIM.

I like to make a suggestion, istead of postign link to the movies why not right to the reviews.
buttplug
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/readreview.php3?id=8225
Sonic the Pervert
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/readreview.php3?id=101059
It is easy to do you open the review, then go to your history and get the links. I think it makes the reviews a lot easier to see

Well TO celebrate my return to deity here are soem presents. I thnik it abvious which ones are abusive.

http://www.newgrounds.com/port...ort=date_mr&user_id=528067
http://www.newgrounds.com/port...ort=date_mr&user_id=463498
http://www.newgrounds.com/port...ort=date_mr&user_id=528136
http://www.newgrounds.com/port...ort=date_mr&user_id=561168
http://www.newgrounds.com/port...ort=date_mr&user_id=520890
Grand winner
http://www.newgrounds.com/port...ort=date_mr&user_id=473576

Thats dude at the end was definatly the grand winner....

At 7/29/03 06:37 AM, the_phantom_spancker wrote: Thats dude at the end was definatly the grand winner....

CMM_Vampire? That dude is a waste of skin. There's no excuse for that crap. He shouldn't just have his reviews removed.

At 7/29/03 03:20 PM, Recon_Rebel wrote: CMM_Vampire? That dude is a waste of skin. There's no excuse for that crap. He shouldn't just have his reviews removed.

Yea he got his accont removed from the site.

I know you said link to the reveiw but this one has too many i think page 12 it is made of all bad reveiws i better get gold for this!

Sorry bout my double posts but im acting fucky tonight.....
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view.php?id=24869

alotta bad reveiws on this game on all different pages:
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/readreview.php3?id=104710&page=1

At 7/30/03 07:17 PM, the_phantom_spancker wrote: I know you said link to the reveiw but this one has too many i think page 12 it is made of all bad reveiws i better get gold for this!

Well the goodnews is your helping keep the bad reviews off NG.
The Badnews is due to your being away when the whistle stuff came out you missed out on a ton of points. You have to hope you can mark more than Newgroundling. I only say that cause I recently took the deity away from TheJoe.

At 7/30/03 07:17 PM, the_phantom_spancker wrote: I know you said link to the reveiw but this one has too many i think page 12 it is made of all bad reveiws i better get gold for this!

I don't think you understand how many reviews/movies we have marked to get our gold whistles (and ramagi her Deity.) Also the whistle levels are based on the amount that the Deity has. A few pages of reviews are not going to get you a gold whistle, you'd have to mark a few hundred pages of reviews to catch up to ramagi/newgrundling/me. Especially since you just got back, which means we all already had an enormous lead on you and there are many other people that are closer to gold than you right now.

At 7/29/03 12:50 AM, ramagi wrote: I like to make a suggestion, istead of postign link to the movies why not right to the reviews.

That's a good idea. I'm pretty sure, though, BTW, that NGling was pasting only review links or author's reviews links, and not links to the movie pages way back a few pages ago.

It is easy to do you open the review, then go to your history and get the links. I think it makes the reviews a lot easier to see

There are two easier ways to get the URL of the review page or a user's reviews page in IE. Probably a similar workaround in Netscape, but I haven't used it in years. Either:

A) press F11, it'll go to fullscreen, and you can copy the URL.

or

B) right click inside the window, select "open frame in new window" (or type 'n' to do it quicker), and then copy the URL from the new fullsized window that opens.

At 8/1/03 10:32 AM, gfoxcook wrote: There are two easier ways to get the URL of the review page or a user's reviews page in IE. Probably a similar workaround in Netscape, but I haven't used it in years. Either:

I right click and go to properties, then copy the address from there, very easy.

At 8/1/03 10:54 AM, TheJoe324 wrote:

At 8/1/03 10:32 AM, gfoxcook wrote: There are two easier ways to get the URL of the review page or a user's reviews page in IE. Probably a similar workaround in Netscape, but I haven't used it in years. Either:

I right click and go to properties, then copy the address from there, very easy.

I dislike dealing with the URL in properties, and avoid it as much as possible. I only do that for images. And I suppose there's probably an "open image in a new window" command, so I probably don't even need to do that...

... no, there isn't. Good, I haven't been doing it pointlessly.

Anyway, the only reason I didn't mention that, and the reason I don't like doing it, is that A) the URL/address bar is so much easier to highlight things in and press ctrl-C and have your copied text superfast, as you can just click in the large white space to the right of the URL and get an instant full highlight.

In properties, you have to either click and drag over the whole URL (and sometimes miss getting the whole thing), or double click on "newgrounds", it'll highlight, then double click again to highlight the entire URL, and finally ctrl C, and have to close the properties.

I mean, hell, that almost takes as long to do as typing this post did! #;-}>

At 7/31/03 11:58 PM, TheJoe324 wrote:

:The whistle levels are based on the amount that the Deity has. A few pages of reviews are not going to get you a gold whistle, you'd have to mark a few hundred pages of reviews to catch up to ramagi/newgrundling/me. Especially since you just got back, which means we all already had an enormous lead on you and there are many other people that are closer to gold than you right now.

Thanks for telling me that, its spawned my new demand to NG,
A WHISTLE RANK LIST!

At 8/1/03 07:54 PM, the_phantom_spancker wrote: Thanks for telling me that, its spawned my new demand to NG,
A WHISTLE RANK LIST!

'twould be nifty.

But niftier still would be an official voting power top 50 or top 100.

At 8/2/03 04:52 AM, gfoxcook wrote: But niftier still would be an official voting power top 50 or top 100.

Yes, that would be much better, especially since whistle levels change so dramatically... and since they don't display "Whistle Point" counts, it would be hard to tell who is what. Basically, it would be 1 Deity (either me or ramagi, since it seems to switch back and forth between us almost daily) 2 golds (Newgrundling and either me or ramagi) and then 47 silvers... not much of a list there.

At 8/2/03 04:57 AM, TheJoe324 wrote:

At 8/2/03 04:52 AM, gfoxcook wrote: But niftier still would be an official voting power top 50 or top 100.

Yes, that would be much better, especially since whistle levels change so dramatically... and since they don't display "Whistle Point" counts, it would be hard to tell who is what. Basically, it would be 1 Deity (either me or ramagi, since it seems to switch back and forth between us almost daily) 2 golds (Newgrundling and either me or ramagi) and then 47 silvers... not much of a list there.

Yeah. Real dramatic. #;-}>

The only thing I really want to know about the whistle system and don't know is this:

how much greater of an effect does actual successful whistle blowing on portal entries have on whistle "points" than just marking one abusive review successfully.

Personally, I mark a lot more reviews than I blow whistles. And that's probably why I'm silver and have never been gold. I did get two submissions put away yesterday, though, with the help of other mysterious portal watchers... I'm confident that will help a little, at least.

But those two whistles... will they help as much as 20 abusive reviews? 100? 500?

An approximate ratio would be useful. Because if one whistle blow helps as much as 1000 abusive review markings, then I'm not going to go out of my way to mark abusive reviews anymore. #;-}>

At 8/2/03 05:19 AM, gfoxcook wrote: The only thing I really want to know about the whistle system and don't know is this:

how much greater of an effect does actual successful whistle blowing on portal entries have on whistle "points" than just marking one abusive review successfully.

My guess is that whistle blowing is a LOT more effective, since the amount of things that would actually deserve a whistle blowing are much higher than reviews.

Think about it, there are usually 2,500-3,000 reviews a day, on an average day, there are 150-200 submissions, most of which don't break the rules.

Also the fact that there is a 2 submission limit per account. So if someone is stealing movies or just making abusive/racist/hateful/porn slideshow movies, there will only be 2 per person max. You can make as many reviews as you want, so people could make 20 abusive/spam reviews a day.

And again, submissions are removed after a few people blow the whistle on it, so that means that maybe 5-10 people can get a point per movie. I've seen reviews with 0/50 helpfulness before.

So based on those stats, Whistle blowing probably counts as a hell of a lot more since its less likely to happen.

At 8/2/03 05:27 AM, TheJoe324 wrote: since the amount of things that would actually deserve a whistle blowing are much higher than reviews.

eh... meant to say lower there not higher, thinking in 2 different directions at once.

At 8/2/03 05:27 AM, TheJoe324 wrote: Think about it, there are usually 2,500-3,000 reviews a day, on an average day, there are 150-200 submissions, most of which don't break the rules.

That's a very good observation, I hadn't really thought of the ratio involved. Well, mostly cause I have no idea how many reviews per day NG gets. #;-}>

So based on those stats, Whistle blowing probably counts as a hell of a lot more since its less likely to happen.

Well yeah, but how MUCH of a hell of a lot more?

Are we actually talking 2,500-3,000 / 150-200 times more? As in 15-16 times more? That would be a relatively concrete figure, and not too shabby of a ratio for us review-markers-more-than-whistle-blowers.

Of course, there's also the question of how many of those 150-200 movies are actually stolen/whatever, and how many of those 2,500-3,000 reviews are actaully abusive, and I'd guess it might be around 20 movies and 500 reviews.

Which means the factor might be more like 25. Bah. It gets worse and worse. #;-}>

At 8/2/03 09:16 AM, gfoxcook wrote: Well yeah, but how MUCH of a hell of a lot more?

Yeah... you can't really figure that one out, the only way to really find out is to get information from the admins. But my guess is that its at least 10 to 20 times more effective to flag a movie than it is to flag a review. (Its most likely more than that, but theres no way to tell.)

At 8/2/03 09:32 AM, TheJoe324 wrote:

At 8/2/03 09:16 AM, gfoxcook wrote: Well yeah, but how MUCH of a hell of a lot more?

Yeah... you can't really figure that one out, the only way to really find out is to get information from the admins. But my guess is that its at least 10 to 20 times more effective to flag a movie than it is to flag a review. (Its most likely more than that, but theres no way to tell.)

Idle speculation is fun. Yeah, I know the admins are the only people who know (for now... they might decide to enlighten us SOMEday...), but it's still interesting to think about. Your ratio estimates would be a good way to base it.

Anyway, whether it's 10, 20, or even 50 times more effective, I don't mind that too much. I just hope it's not more than 100+ times more effect. That large a factor difference would make it disheartening to abusive review markers.

At 8/2/03 04:57 AM, TheJoe324 wrote:

At 8/2/03 04:52 AM, gfoxcook wrote: But niftier still would be an official voting power top 50 or top 100.

Yes, that would be much better, especially since whistle levels change so dramatically... and since they don't display "Whistle Point" counts, it would be hard to tell who is what. Basically, it would be 1 Deity (either me or ramagi, since it seems to switch back and forth between us almost daily) 2 golds (Newgrundling and either me or ramagi) and then 47 silvers... not much of a list there.

So what you're saying there is that 2 ppl cant have a deity whistle at the same time, 3 ppl can't have a gold whistle at the same time, and so on? And anyone that wants a deity has to have more whistle points than whoever has the deity whistle?

At 8/5/03 05:34 PM, Plike88 wrote: So what you're saying there is that 2 ppl cant have a deity whistle at the same time, 3 ppl can't have a gold whistle at the same time, and so on? And anyone that wants a deity has to have more whistle points than whoever has the deity whistle?

Thats pretty much how it is... The only time that there can be 2 deity's is if they have the exact same amount of whistle points, which has actually Happened before... Twice... And I'm not POSITIVE if there can only be 2 Golds but I have NEVER seen more than 2 golds at once. (When I would see someone else got a gold whistle, one of the 2 previous ones always lost it.) I guess there can be 3 golds at once, but all 3 would have to have the same amount of points which would be hard to accomplish.

At 8/5/03 05:55 PM, TheJoe324 wrote: Thats pretty much how it is... The only time that there can be 2 deity's is if they have the exact same amount of whistle points, which has actually Happened before... Twice... And I'm not POSITIVE if there can only be 2 Golds but I have NEVER seen more than 2 golds at once. (When I would see someone else got a gold whistle, one of the 2 previous ones always lost it.) I guess there can be 3 golds at once, but all 3 would have to have the same amount of points which would be hard to accomplish.

Yeah, no kidding. 3 golds under the system as it apparently stands now would be several several times rarer than 2 deities.

Although, 3 people competing for the 2 gold spots and exchanging it amongst themselves over a day or two might well happen if a fourth person were to get up there with you, NGling, and Ramagi.