At 12/24/11 05:23 PM, MudkipsPiano wrote: Yeah, a lot of people poke fun at Vickie now. She's not really doing a serious role at all, as opposed to the beginning of this year with Edge. Miz definitely, since he's been more in the spotlight than Ziggler.

Vickie's heat is what I call the X-Pac heat. The Miz is a pretty damn good heel, but the edge goes to CM Punk when he was the leader of the Nexus.

I am at the highest level of happiness about the state of wrestling that I have been since I started watching again. Gonna remember this while I can before Vince crushes all my hopes and dreams before Mania.

At 12/24/11 05:17 PM, MudkipsPiano wrote: Rookie of the year, definitely messed that one up. Sin Cara definitely.

I think he's the name that broke out the most. Despite the botches and everything else, even the injury, Cara made an impact with your average fan and got over. I think you have to give it to him since WWE didn't really develop anyone else new this year.

But like yeah also Comeback of the year has to go to Kane.

I say Henry. Kane hasn't even had a single match back yet. Henry may not have been overcoming or coming back from an injury, but he definitely came back from just floating around and being irrelevant into a legitimate star and main eventer. Henry wins this hands down because I don't think this should be restricted to guys that got hurt and came back. Although if you ARE going to do that, then I think Big Show should take this one, since he came back to have a better program with Henry then anyone thought he could, and has been better on the stick and what not of late.

But by most embarrassing wrestler I probably didn't elaborate on what I meant by that, I mean their wrestling technique. Kane's the dude and all but he can't wrestle. At all.

Disagree, Kane isn't the best worker in the world, but he's a vet, he knows how to get heat, and he's good at what he knows how to do. I think things like "technique" get very subjective based on what the viewer wants.

Also, the Miz being at the top of PWI 500 is AAWWWEEEESSSSOOOOMMMEEEEEE, but I don't know if it's exactly well deserving.

The fuck are you talking about? Of course it's deserved! Look, if CM Punk doesn't finally get his moment in July, this would have been year of the Miz. Guy turned himself into a legitimate top guy. He beat John Cena at Wrestlemania (only the second time a heel has retained the belt at the event), he's been everywhere for them in terms of press. He consistently takes whatever they give him and hits. Like I say, he's been overshadowed by Punk in July, but if that didn't happen, you would have had to give 2011 to the Miz, so I can see why PWI could make the case that for total year and quality, it's Miz.

Well, whoever called that having Ziggler drop the US title in a effort to go after the WWE Championship was right on. I mean, I wouldnt see Punk dropping the title, but cementing Ziggler as a contender is a pretty good move, considering ADR was kinda meh as the champ. In my opinion, anyway.

Also whoopee, R Truth is back.

Oh cool, Kane's recycling Cody Rhode's old gimmick behind his facemask.

At 12/26/11 10:58 PM, Porkchop wrote: Oh cool, Kane's recycling Cody Rhode's old gimmick behind his facemask.

Recycling? Kane did that gimmick before Cody Rhodes was even here.

At 12/27/11 07:26 AM, The-Great-One wrote:

At 12/26/11 10:58 PM, Porkchop wrote: Oh cool, Kane's recycling Cody Rhode's old gimmick behind his facemask.

Recycling? Kane did that gimmick before Cody Rhodes was even here.

And back when Mick Foley was Mankind, they were roughly doing the same gimmick. I meant that Kane went all these years unmasked then as soon as Cody Rhodes after running around in an uncomfortable mask in the premise that his face was too ugly to be seen, he unmasks and Kane's going around doing the same thing. I'm not saying Kane's never done that gimmick, but it's kind of funny how short of time went by before they brought it back out.

At 12/27/11 10:54 AM, Porkchop wrote: And back when Mick Foley was Mankind, they were roughly doing the same gimmick. I meant that Kane went all these years unmasked then as soon as Cody Rhodes after running around in an uncomfortable mask in the premise that his face was too ugly to be seen, he unmasks and Kane's going around doing the same thing. I'm not saying Kane's never done that gimmick, but it's kind of funny how short of time went by before they brought it back out.

Well you look at them together it is short. I don't really care though, I'm just really happy to see Kane with his mask and hair back. What he said to John Cena last night still gives me goosebumps.

The sad thing is that Cena will rape Kane in the next PPV for all the retarded little kids no matter how strong Kane looks now.

At 12/28/11 04:13 PM, bhsqad15 wrote: Randy orton injured

And the fate of Daniel Bryan having a good title run is secured.

At 12/28/11 04:13 PM, bhsqad15 wrote: Randy orton injured

Yep.

Tonight's SD! Was a house show, not a Syfy show.

That said, I had pretty damn good seats.

The announcer came out and said that while Orton had been injured, Wade Barrett's match against him would now take place against Sheamus as a street fight. Which was pretty decent, Sheamus for the win with a Brogue Kick after kicking out of an attempt to hit Wasteland, post match Drew McIntyre came out and kicked the shit out of Sheamus.

The only other matches that were really worth mentioning was Air Boom going over Epico and Primo after the ref ordered the match to restart following a bad decision in favor of Epico and Primo for the Tag Championship and Daniel Bryan going over Big Show and Mark Henry for the WHC. It was a steel cage match, and quite frankly, it was mostly between the Big Show and Daniel Bryan, as Mark Henry basically gave handjobs the entire damn time. After Daniel Bryan won the match, Drew McIntyre and Wade Barrett beat down on Show and Bryan of them until Sheamus came out to help.

Aside from those, there was a mehtacular divas match, and 2 other filler matches featuring Jinder Mahal, Ted Dibiase, Tyson Kidd and some other guy whose name kept coming out retarded over the announce.

At 12/29/11 01:21 AM, MudkipsPiano wrote:

At 12/28/11 04:13 PM, bhsqad15 wrote: Randy orton injured

hahah I didn't see the smackdown taping yet, but I can't wait to see this!

Fuck Orton

From what I've heard the clown is a spoiled asshole, also it is NEVER funny when someone gets injured.

At 12/28/11 10:20 PM, MattTheParanoidKat wrote:

At 12/28/11 04:13 PM, bhsqad15 wrote: Randy orton injured

And the fate of Daniel Bryan having a good title run is secured.

Barrett for the WHC, anyone?

At 12/29/11 11:19 AM, Dream-of-Duke wrote:

At 12/28/11 10:20 PM, MattTheParanoidKat wrote:

At 12/28/11 04:13 PM, bhsqad15 wrote: Randy orton injured

And the fate of Daniel Bryan having a good title run is secured.

Barrett for the WHC, anyone?

Not anytime soon, hopefully. Not saying that Barrett wouldnt be good for it, I just really like Daniel Bryan as WHC. Hell, maybe Show can hold it for a while if DB drops it.

At 12/29/11 11:19 AM, Dream-of-Duke wrote:

At 12/28/11 10:20 PM, MattTheParanoidKat wrote:

At 12/28/11 04:13 PM, bhsqad15 wrote: Randy orton injured

And the fate of Daniel Bryan having a good title run is secured.

Barrett for the WHC, anyone?

I'd rather see Sheamus with the title after DB, though it won't happen soon since they won't do that kind of face vs face match. I think they'll be pursuing the David vs Goliath type matches with Henry and Show awhile longer. But Barrett will get there eventually if he sticks around. He's on the border between mid card and main event.

At 12/29/11 06:55 PM, MudkipsPiano wrote:
Orton got handed a contract because of his dad, and I find it hilarious that he got injured, not funny.

Better to be handed a job that makes you money then using your parent's money to fly across the country and get front row seats to every WWE even you go to.

I don't care what a wrestler has done to make you not like them, it is despicable to laugh at them for getting injured. They are making a living from entertaining us, even if you don't like them.

I had to post this here.

An amazing tribute to "The Summer of Punk" set to the Dr. Horrible soundtrack. Definitely not your run of the mill wrestling tribute video.

At 12/30/11 02:23 AM, boloneyman wrote: I had to post this here.

An amazing tribute to "The Summer of Punk" set to the Dr. Horrible soundtrack. Definitely not your run of the mill wrestling tribute video.

That really was rather amazing, i liked the song at 3:40.
good recap of the feud. (Y)

At 12/29/11 06:55 PM, MudkipsPiano wrote: Orton got handed a contract because of his dad, and I find it hilarious that he got injured, not funny.

I never used to be a fan of Orton, but I would never have found it funny for someone to get injured. It's a shame because he seems to have grown up somewhat since his hotel trashing days, and his character, to me at least, is finally entertaining.

He far surpassed anything his dad ever did, too, so I think he justified his hiring...

Just watch Brock Lesner get knocked the fuck out.

Who wants to see him come back to the WWE for a stretch? I know I sure as hell do.

At 12/31/11 06:03 AM, Shaun wrote: Just watch Brock Lesner get knocked the fuck out.

Then he retired.

Who wants to see him come back to the WWE for a stretch? I know I sure as hell do.

I could see him doing it on a very short term basis. But I think it would be for an amount of money and a number of dates Vince wouldn't necessarily like. I could see him at Mania next year, right now Dana White has made clear Brock couldn't go back to wrestling or do anything like that without his permission because he retired while under contract to UFC. So if Vince wanted him now, he'd be paying Lesnar whatever he wants (which will be a lot considering his UFC drawing power) and paying White whatever he wants to let Lesnar do it.

At 12/31/11 08:39 PM, aviewaskewed wrote:

At 12/31/11 06:03 AM, Shaun wrote: Who wants to see him come back to the WWE for a stretch? I know I sure as hell do.

paying

I don't think there is any rush on it, people aren't going to forget who he is too quickly.
He obviously isn't healthy at the moment, So I don't see him rushing back to WWE any time soon.
In 2 or 3 years time however to see him return for a wrestlemania would be rather cool.

Lesner in a short run might be good, though I do wonder how fans may react. The last time he was in WWE he was booed out of the building along with Goldberg. Then again I haven't heard any negatives for them including Brock in the WWE game so maybe the fans do want to see him again.

I'm never happy to hear when someone is out with injury so I wish Orton a speedy recovery.

Here's to wanting awesome wrestling in 2012!

Well, the first Raw of 2012 will finally put those wiggity wiggity wack It Begins vignettes down. And on top of that, 2012 might be the year we see John Cena flip shit and make an admittedly awesome heel turn.

And sooner or later, we'll probably see the Undertaker come along and set something up for Wrestlemania, I figure. Or not, who knows. He might come along next year. :P

That said, i'm pretty excited for Raw tomorrow.

At 1/1/12 10:59 AM, Outlaw88 wrote: Lesner in a short run might be good, though I do wonder how fans may react. The last time he was in WWE he was booed out of the building along with Goldberg. Then again I haven't heard any negatives for them including Brock in the WWE game so maybe the fans do want to see him again.

I think you have to consider the market that happened in. NY tends to be very net savvy and know what's going on behind the scenes. Also I think the problem there as well was the fans knew both guys were leaving, so what they saw as a much hyped Mania match that some of them may have even held as the reason to see the show, was now rendered meaningless since neither man would be back the next night. Also a lot of that audience has probably moved on, and/or doesn't hold the grudges the way some older school fans might.

Considering his health, his lack of enjoyment of being in the public eye, and that I really doubt he needs the money at this point, I see Lesnar either doing a one off Mania shot for a big pay day, or coming in on a Rock level part time basis. The only issue I find with that is that by that wisdom, Lesnar should be jobbing almost every time he comes in to make a new star, or if he gets a win, needs to give it back and lose whatever series he's booked into. Part of Brock's issue last time clearly seemed to be getting put into a situation where he would have been booked to lose a program.

Tonight, we will be graced by the Ayatollah. ^_^ We all know it's happening. Hadn't thought about Year 2nd January, though......Jericho, you clever bastard, you. Or, at least, whoever comes up with these promos for ya, if it's not you who does.

RAW (last week):

"LIL' JIMMIE SAID IT WAS OKAY!!!"

That crazy whackjob gimmick really grows on ya. :P Now, Ron, DON'T FUCK UP AGAIN! Ya got one more chance, here, or YOU GONNA GET GOT!

So, Kane's reason for returning & assaulting Cena.......is to convert Cena over to The Dark Side of the Force? Emperor PalpaKane?

Oooooh, Laryngitis is looking for a knee to the face.......

SD:

Wait......they're ACTUALLY GOING TO DO SOMETHING WITH D-MAC!? God, FINALLY! Why the fuck has it taken this long for WWE to quit being bitter over something that WASN'T EVEN HIS FUCKING FAULT!? HE EVEN DIVORCED THE BROAD! WHAT MORE DO YA WANT!?!?!?!?

Ok, where was I......oh yes, D-Mac is being given airtime. He may still be jobbing now, but there's a plot behind it similar to MVP's, so I can only assume he'll win riiiiiiiiight when Teddy makes a Career-Threatening Match, beginning his long-overdue climb back up to the top he should STILL BE AT.

The end of SD was pretty crazy; not that I haven't seen that scenario happen before, but it was still crazy. Shame he's injured, bec\ause I still like Orton, despite his getting Cena-like booking, but this does help keep DBD & Barrett & anyone else available to flourish while he's away.

This weekly Miz Beatdown was brought to you by Little Jimmy, where you WILL GET GOT..

Moment of the night so far.

At 1/2/12 09:49 PM, Jonny wrote: This weekly Miz Beatdown was brought to you by Little Jimmy, where you WILL GET GOT..

Moment of the night so far.

HAPPY NEW YEAR MIZ.

I lol'd. Is it just me or does this show tonight seem like it's kinda dragging on?

At 1/2/12 09:49 PM, Jonny wrote: This weekly Miz Beatdown was brought to you by Little Jimmy, where you WILL GET GOT..

Moment of the night so far.

I just love watching Miz get his ass kicked. He's such a little prick.

R-Truth has certainly gained my respect.

Disregard my previous post, CM Punk just annihilated Laryngitis.

"This guy is gonna come in real handy, 'cause you're gonna wanna sue me, and I'm gonna be in jail. Know what I'm gonna be in jail for? Animal Cruelty. 'cause I'm gonna beat you like a bitch."

Bro points to Punk!

Still waiting for Y2J.