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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2006-08-15 20:01:30


At 8/15/06 04:26 PM, TheUndertaker666 wrote: Lita is a S L U T and she defiently doesn't deserve the WWE Women's Championship

Mickie James was an okay wrestler, but seriously Lita is the best wrestler in the business, the only reason she doesn't seem that good is because those neck problems she has. Also Edge has been the best heel in 2006.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2006-08-15 20:13:43


I think Lita and Mickie are both great wrestlers for the Women's Division. Their match was one of the better women's matches that I've seen.

Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2006-08-15 23:11:49


Don't forget to add Victoria to the list of women that can actually wrestle. I still think that Widow's Peak move is cool. Shame we haven't seen it in what seems like forever.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2006-08-15 23:15:11


At 8/15/06 11:11 PM, Outlaw88 wrote: Don't forget to add Victoria to the list of women that can actually wrestle. I still think that Widow's Peak move is cool. Shame we haven't seen it in what seems like forever.

Yea, the widows peak is crazy.
Also, she's not with us anymore but I think the best female wrestler of all time was Chyna, she really opened up the doors for female wrestlers in the WWE. She is like a icon to most female wrestlers.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2006-08-16 02:31:20


Report card tommorow, but congrats to Sabu on becoming the number 1 contender to the ECW title. Did you EVER think Sabu would be wrestling a world title match at SummerSlam?


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2006-08-16 02:33:12


At 8/16/06 02:31 AM, aviewaskewed wrote: Report card tommorow, but congrats to Sabu on becoming the number 1 contender to the ECW title. Did you EVER think Sabu would be wrestling a world title match at SummerSlam?

Haha, never, just saying that sentence makes you say "WTF!?@"


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2006-08-16 09:00:51


At 8/16/06 02:31 AM, aviewaskewed wrote: Report card tommorow, but congrats to Sabu on becoming the number 1 contender to the ECW title. Did you EVER think Sabu would be wrestling a world title match at SummerSlam?

Not at all. Not many many people can honestly say that they expected to see Sabu compete in Summerslam much less for a major title, I will say this the man deserves it... but what happened with the ladder? Did Sabu just slip?

One thing that bothered me about ECW waas the whole Flair/Foley thing I mean why is this on ECW when the purpose is clearly to promote a Raw match.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2006-08-16 11:33:12


wow so Sabu won and will be on SS. Should be one hell of a match. Will it be under extreme rules?


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2006-08-16 12:00:24


At 8/15/06 08:13 PM, cornontheconn wrote: I think Lita and Mickie are both great wrestlers for the Women's Division. Their match was one of the better women's matches that I've seen.

Yes,but why does the whore have to win??

Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2006-08-16 12:00:50


At 8/16/06 11:33 AM, Outlaw88 wrote: wow so Sabu won and will be on SS. Should be one hell of a match. Will it be under extreme rules?

I'm not sure about that. I haven't heard anything about it being an Extreme rules match but it would make sense to make it that.. Who knows something might happen between today and Sunday.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2006-08-16 13:24:29


lol since were tlkin abat this i just watched wwe jeff hardys returning but which show any1 know? and hopefully the most legendry match of all time ric flair and mick foley an "i quit" match r.i.p eddie guerrero its been a year but we still miss u viva la rasa!!!!


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2006-08-16 21:34:51


Ratings are in, and ECW spanked the competition yet again:

This week's edition of ECW On Sci Fi did a 2.3 cable rating, with a 4 share. The show was consistent in the quarters, doing 2.2s for the first three, a 2.1 for the fourth and a 2.5 for the five minute overrun.

As we mentioned earlier, this week's edition of the show was the highest rated show on basic cable for last night. Rescue Me, which is a truly great show and its main regular competition, did a 2.1 cable rating, with a 3 share.

I'm sure WWE will be tempted to say the higher rating is due to Flair and Foley's prescence, which probably helped the first quarter-hour, but the show stayed consistent, and I believe the ladder match had more to do with keeping people interested in the show. I'm going to do some checking on the title match situation, but I would assume it will be Extreme Rules since they do have two either title bouts on the show, and they should be looking to make ECW seem new and different from the other brands.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2006-08-16 21:45:58


Well, the winner for the 3rd Add a Caption was The_Redangleprince! Well done.
BTW, to win the contest you must get five wins. Whoever reaches that first wins.
I will have a prize as well, probably some sort of gift card.

The Standings in the Add a Caption contest are

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The fourth installment later.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2006-08-16 22:49:01


Report Card for ECW on SciFi 8/15

Last night's show was all about Summerslam, they had two angles to promote for it, and they also kept the other storylines of the brand (Sandman/Dreamer vs. Test/Knox, CM Punk's continual evolution as a player) going. All in all an enjoyable show, let's get to the grading.

Paul E. medically suspends Kurt Angle: This was a good segment in my view. WWE was smart to pull Angle out of the ladder match and not have him risk further injury or bodily damage. I also really enjoyed that they were honest about why Angle wouldn't compete, and turned it around to get more heat on Heyman and Show. Honesty was a hallmark of the old ECW, it's good to see they went that route here, rather then some over the top hokey angle. Grade: A

Foley Flair segment: Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too WWE for me. I know people can make the arguement that this sort of cross-promotion helps bring the RAW fans over to try ECW, but this segment just ran too long, and this just wasn't all that funny or interesting to me. Foley's busted mouth helped, but would it have killed them to use the time between Flair coming out and attacking Foley with an ECW guy who could at least get in Foley's face for the crap he talked on ECW back in June? I'm all for ECW getting more and more ratings, and cross promotion will do that, but this to me was an angle that did nothing to help ECW in any way, and that's something I'm against. Grade: F

CM Punk vs. Justin Credible: Nice that Credible got a little video to say the other week was a fluke, but it's becomeing obvious Credible is the "talented jobber" that gives the bigger guys a rub. A real shame. I'd actually like to see Credible and Punk have a little feud, an easy way to do this would be to give Credible a cheat win or two over Punk the next time they clash. But the boat may have already sailed on this one. Punk looked good here, but not quite as good as the prior week, but I think that comes down to wanting more time for the ladder match, then any defiency by Punk or Credible. Grade: A-

RVD video package: Solid package, decent promo, RVD is a guy where I think the video package is always going to be stronger then the promo after...so maybe we should just stay with the video package? Grade: B

Rene Dupree promo: A better promo this week, as we actually got to see what Dupree's character is going to be in ECW, so that right there puts it up past last week's rushed effort. With that said though, Dupree playing a narcissistic pretty boy who's going to be "beautiful and extreme" is going to get him eaten alive. I think Dupree can pull the gimmick off, but he and WWE had really better be ready for loud and rabid "get off my TV fuck head!" sort of heat until he really proves himself. The ECW crowd WILL be merciless to this character. Grade: A-

Test and Knox vs. The FBI: Hey FBI! Thanks for coming guys! I'm never a fan of a quality team jobbing out so blatantly, but I will agree with Dave Scherer in giving Test props for looking nasty and aggressive since his return to TV. Usually I'd say this was a good match to establish that Knox and Test ARE a unit, but Knox got so little to do here, that it may as well have just been a singles bout with Test working against one member of the FBI. It was good for what it was, and The Sandman/Dreamer run in made sense and was fun. I'm interested to see if they warm to the idea of Kelly leaving Knox during this angle, as they're interaction reminds me of Randy Savage and Miss Liz back in the day when Savage was a heel that treated her terribly. Grade: C+

Sabu video package: Same thing as RVD. Sabu has great intensity with his delivery, but the content is just so wooden and crappy, he may as well not talk. Grade: B

Kurt Angle attacks!: This was a really good segment as it made sure to leave no doubt that Angle was ready willing and able to fight. I think the idea of arresting Angle works here better then many other arrest angles, because it sends the message that only a group of trained police officers can stop a pissed off Kurt Angle (which may just be a damn shoot, I would not fuck with Kurt Angle under any circumstances), and I also like how Big Show got to get some smarmy heel heat out of the deal too. Grade: A

Sabu vs. RVD, winner is #1 Contender: What a good good match these guys had. RVD is still a bit rusty from the lay off, but he worked hard here, and Sabu was a stud as ever, there were some risky spots missed, but that's ok because they were so "either you hit it, or ya don't". Both guys worked hard, and got some really interesting spots off. Big Show coming out was totally in character, and helped insure that RVD will have a legit claim whether Show keeps the belt, or loses it on Sunday. I also liked how Sabu got the win at Show's expense here. Sabu absolutely deserves the push he's getting right now, he's paid his dues, and it's great to see him in a high profile main event program as he career inevitably winds down. Grade: A

Overall: A good show, not a great show, you got a good match, a solid match, and a really good main event. Some promos to help push characters along, and the general pace of the show was continously forward moving. Nothing spectacular, but certainly better then what I think the much longer RAW show was this week. Grade overall: B

All thoughts and comments are welcome as ever.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2006-08-16 22:55:27


At 8/15/06 11:11 PM, Outlaw88 wrote: Don't forget to add Victoria to the list of women that can actually wrestle. I still think that Widow's Peak move is cool. Shame we haven't seen it in what seems like forever.

I think the best Women wrestlers currently in no order are: Lita, Trish Stratus and Victoria


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2006-08-17 00:07:38


ECW's main event was fantastic. RVD monkey-flipping the ladder at Sabu was the best move of the night, in my opinion, and the finish was clever.

ECW's been consistently great with their main events (save for the one they had at Hammerstein, which was somewhat of a mess). But I do find their regular events somewhat lacking, even if some of them are good.

TNA, in contrast, I believe is the other way around, which uninteresting main event characters, but fantastic mid-card and otherwise non-main-event talent (X-Division in particular).

Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2006-08-17 03:17:42


I tend to agree with you there corn. But I feel the real difference is that ECW is working on getting the middle of the card established, they certainly have some very talented guys there already, and I think they're bringing along some of the rest. It's like I keep saying, with only an hour of TV time, and so many guys that have (like on every other WWE brand it seems) seemingly been brought onto television before they're ready, ECW has a tough task ahead of them in getting these guys over, especially with no PPV's of their own to build to where a lot of these guys can get real big match experience. I'm hoping come Survivor Series ECW gets to contribute more then one bout to the show.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2006-08-17 06:53:32


That ladder match sounds like it was a good one. I hope they have it on wwe.com so I can watch. Sad that they are jobbing Credible, but considering that's all WWE did with him last time he was with the company I'm not all that surprised.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2006-08-17 07:23:56


So, Apperantly, Layla (eww) Won the 25,000 Diva Search Contest. She Beat Jen (Nobody with taste has a cellphone nowadays) Which Sucks because Something about Jen Just gives me the vibe that she may be a Half-decent Wrestler.

*ahem* TONIGHT ON TNA: iMPACT!

Double J plans a CELEBRATION For the opening of the Show! Chriatian Also Explains his betryal! WHAT WILL STING HAVE TO SAY?!!?

FINALLY! THE FOUR-WAY Tag Team Match!

America's Most Wanted The Naturals!
vs.
Bentley & Kazarian! The New Ag....The James Gang!

will there be hurricane rules? TUNE IN AND FIND OUT!

Dutt, Lethal Sabin vs. The Paparazzi (Shelley & Devine) & Petey Williams!
WHAT'CHA GONNA DO, WHEN THE X-DIVSION RUNS WILD ON YOU?!!?

AND! For your Main Event!

Samoa Joke*cough**cough* Samoa Joe Vs. Ron "The Truth" Killings!

It's All Tonight on iMPACT!


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2006-08-17 07:24:59


At 8/17/06 07:23 AM, redface wrote: America's Most Wanted The Naturals!
vs.
Bentley & Kazarian! The New Ag....The James Gang!

That Totally Did not come out the way I wanted it to...*sigh* you get the Picture...


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2006-08-17 11:51:26


Avie mentioned Survivor Series so I wonder... will ECW be involved? Like a classic Survivor Series elimination match... except WWE vs ECW.

Let's say five of the WWE's best vs five of ECW"s best, I really think that is this were to be done correctly it could draw a lot more fans to ECW... so it probably won't happen. Although an ECW team would be loaded and would probably wipe the floor with the WWE's best.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2006-08-17 12:16:45


I'll join your club. I don't like Smackdown! that much, but I watch RAW everytime it's on. My favorites are:

John Cena
Hogan
DX
Rey Mysterio
And Stacey Keibler :-)


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2006-08-17 13:54:14


Well, our cable got disconnected, so I DEFINITELY won't be watching RAW or ECW anytime soon....although it wouldn't have mattered - the TV it was hooked up to is on the edge of death, anyway. I can still watch SD! in my room, though, so I'm not out just yet. ^_^

At 8/17/06 07:23 AM, redface wrote: So, Apperantly, Layla (eww) Won the 25,000 Diva Search Contest. She Beat Jen (Nobody with taste has a cellphone nowadays) Which Sucks because Something about Jen Just gives me the vibe that she may be a Half-decent Wrestler.

Aw, give her a break; Layla looked better than the other contestants last week, whether it was the same routine or not. That's just her thing.

At 8/17/06 12:16 PM, Fragment wrote: I'll join your club. I don't like Smackdown! that much, but I watch RAW everytime it's on. My favorites are:

John Cena
Hogan
DX
Rey Mysterio
And Stacey Keibler :-)

Hey, you're definitely not a noob, so you shouldn't have a problem getting in, but I'm not a vet, so I can't officially say.

Oh, and Stacey ain't there no mo. She went off to pursue her new dancing career..........GODDAMMIT!!!!

And where the feck did Christie Hemmie go? I miss her..... ^_^


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2006-08-17 14:22:59


At 8/17/06 01:54 PM, Assi9 wrote:
And where the feck did Christie Hemmie go? I miss her..... ^_^

Christy is in TNA now..

Now for a bit of ECW news... first a spoiler for Summerslam so if you don't want to know just don't read it..

Source: PWInsider

The following is a SummerSlam spoiler, stop reading now if you don't want to be spoiled for the ECW title match on Sunday.

Right now it looks like Kurt angle will somehow be involved in the ECW title match on Sunday, possibly making the match a three-way dance.

And speaking of ECW....

Paul Heyman was interviewed today in the Poughkeepsie Journal regarding ECW's return to the Mid-Hudson Civic Center at this link. Highlights from the interview:

What the new ECW needs to be: "You really need to help people understand that this can't be a nostalgia show. It's great to go to Yankee Stadium for Old Timers' Day. It does great business one day a year. But nobody wants to see Stan Musial step up to the plate. They want to see A-Rod. Well, maybe not how he's hitting today. But they want to see the A-Rods, the Mike Piazzas, the Johnny Damons. Once a year, it's wonderful. But presenting these guys as though it were still 1999 is not going to happen."

The first ECW One Night Stand: "I thought it was great closure. It was a night everyone waited five years for. But people wouldn't stop buying the DVDs, the books, the t-shirts."

The new ECW vs. the old: "It's far different. Before I was the sole proprietor. I was doing the creative and I was taking creative input from everybody, whether it was the top star or the janitor. Here, it's a huge corporation and as lead writer, the buck stops with Vince McMahon. I organize all the pitches and the concepts, but it's much different. It's much more a large entertainment conglomerate than eccentric and personality-driven."

CM Punk's Potential: "You have to look into the eyes of a guy like CM Punk. Five years down the road, this is the guy that stands in Rob Van Dam's and Sabu's and Kurt Angle's shoes. The groundwork from today has to be laid for tomorrow."

Dealing with Vince McMahon: "It's an interesting clash of two eccentric personalities with two totally different takes on the business, but who respect each other's visions."

ECW Fans Not Happy with the New Vision: "This is what everyone has been clamoring for. If you just sit on the sidelines, it's going to go on without you. ECW can go on without Tommy Dreamer or The Sandman or RVD or Paul Heyman. You've got to be in it to win it. If you're not involved, you're not going to be able to get the product structured the way you like it. If you want something different, be vocal about it."

Being an On Camera Character: "I'm always surprised, on a weekly basis, that I am still performing. I live vicariously through the other performers. I get this giant thrill working with people, adding depth and layers to the characters we create. But I always find myself in these situations where I subject myself to public ridicule."


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2006-08-17 17:23:56


At 8/17/06 06:53 AM, Outlaw88 wrote: That ladder match sounds like it was a good one. I hope they have it on wwe.com so I can watch. Sad that they are jobbing Credible, but considering that's all WWE did with him last time he was with the company I'm not all that surprised.

Yeah, it's sad that he's being treated like the talented put over guy. Al Snow I can kind of see why that's done, Al's probably going to be best used in a role like that, considering his age, and the age of his gimmick, but Justin still has quite a bit he could contribute.

You can actually watch the ECW show online with the "Hardcore Hangover" option at ECW.com.

As for the Survivor Series. I think the idea of ECW vs. the other two WWE brands in a SS match could be really good, but my only fear is that it would be a situation where they would either be jobbed out, or it would be like when SD! faced RAW last year. It'd be 5 ECW main eventers, and then 5 mid-carders from the other brands. Meaning it's lose/lose for ECW no matter what in that match.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2006-08-17 17:50:54


At 8/17/06 05:23 PM, aviewaskewed wrote:

As for the Survivor Series. I think the idea of ECW vs. the other two WWE brands in a SS match could be really good, but my only fear is that it would be a situation where they would either be jobbed out, or it would be like when SD! faced RAW last year. It'd be 5 ECW main eventers, and then 5 mid-carders from the other brands. Meaning it's lose/lose for ECW no matter what in that match.

You make a good point, however you have to remember that the mid-carders on Raw and Smackdown are among the most over wrestlers with fans. Look at Lashley, Kennedy, Carlito even Finaly they're all mid-carders but the fans love them

I said it could work if done correctly the could even use someone like Taker who is always putting other wrestlers (even Khali) over, or if Edge is feuding with someone else come November they could use Cena.

I would love to see this happen and I hope it does but I'll say it again only if its done correctly.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2006-08-17 17:54:28


You make a good point pep.

Here's a possible follow up to the SS ECW title match spoiler, this can be found in Joey Style's MEP column this week at ECW.com, this is only a POSSIBLE spoiler:

As an ECW fan first and an ECW announcer second, I would love for Kurt Angle and Rob Van Dam to return the favor to Paul Heyman and Big Show respectively by crashing the Biggest Party of the Summer this Sunday and interjecting themselves into ECW's only match at WWE's SummerSlam.

After all, the original ECW was about breaking the rules of sports-entertainment set by WWE…so why should the new ECW be any different?

That's an interesting comment right there...is Joey hinting at what is already planned? Or is this just Joey playing his character? I guess we'll find out on Sunday.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2006-08-17 18:51:13


At 8/15/06 04:26 PM, TheUndertaker666 wrote: Lita is a S L U T and she defiently doesn't deserve the WWE Women's Championship!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I nominate here for the world SLUT award of the century!!!LOL fuck Edge fuck Lita(i mean that hoe)and ummmmm I like Skittles!!!!

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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2006-08-17 19:12:48


You know what? We should all just be happy that crappy female wrestlers like Christy Hemme, who is also hideous, are gone to TNA which isn't bad but thank god it isn't mainstream like WWE.

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At 8/17/06 07:12 PM, anthony_richer wrote: You know what? We should all just be happy that crappy female wrestlers like Christy Hemme, who is also hideous, are gone to TNA which isn't bad but thank god it isn't mainstream like WWE.

She may have been crappy but you must be on drugs to call her hideous!


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