Are those bouts from FMW? FMW was an influence on ECW, and the two actually had a professional talent sharing relationship (it's how guys like Mike Awesome and Masato Tanaka got into ECW in '99 and 2000, and it allowed ECW to make their title a true world title as it was defended in Japan under the FMW banner a time or two).

I am hearing Amish Roadkill will be working the tapings tonight for ECW, and from the way it sounds, most of the developmental talents that have been called up will be working for ECW, I'll get you an update from ECWwrestlingnews in a minute or two on all the names. Re-christening tonight, and I have a feeling that we're going to be seeing another jump from WWE to ECW, oh I can not wait for 10 p.m. on sci-fi!!!

Partial Source: PWinsider.com

Roadkill and Shelly Martinez have been told to report to tonight's SmackDown!/ECW taping. They are both expected to debut with the ECW brand.

Barbie Blank is also expected at the taping, most likely to be part of the ECW launch.

Aaron Stevens and KC James have been called to the taping as well, possibly for a dark match although they could debut on either SmackDown! or ECW.

Also they are now taping the ECW show because Sci-Fi freaked out about the chants they heard on Sunday, and they want to try and have those off the tv product...good luck with that guys. It makes you wonder if Sci-Fi really understands what kind of product they've signed on to promote. Maybe USA would have been smarter to put this on their network, rather then a channel that seems averse to some of the more controversial aspects of the product.

At 6/13/06 07:42 PM, aviewaskewed wrote: Are those bouts from FMW? FMW was an influence on ECW, and the two actually had a professional talent sharing relationship (it's how guys like Mike Awesome and Masato Tanaka got into ECW in '99 and 2000, and it allowed ECW to make their title a true world title as it was defended in Japan under the FMW banner a time or two).

Yes. The Electric pool match, The Hayabusa vs Atsushi Onita match, The Cactus Jack vs W*ING Kanemura match, The Megumi Kudo vs Combat Toyoda match, and the Hayabusa & Masato Tanaka vs Mr. Pogo & Terry Funk match are all from FMW. The Zandig vs Wifebeater match and the Cage of Death 5 match are from CZW. And the Great Muta vs Hiroshi Hase match, The match that created the Muta Scale, is from NJPW. Did you ever see the Rob Van Dam & Sabu vs Jinsei Shinzaki & Hayabusa match from Heatwave 1998? It was one of the best tag team matches that I have ever seen. It's on YouTube but the only bad thing is that the video got flagged. I saw the match before it got flagged. The only way to see the RVD & Sabu vs Jinsei Shinzaki & Hayabusa match is to sign up on YouTube and verify you are 18 or older.

The only Hayabusa tag match I've seen is Hayabusa and Tommy Dreamer vs RVD and Sabu, that one's from FMW.

ECW is almost on for my area. That's right, 9'o clock, I see the debut of the greatest wrestling ever made. The review will appear afterwards. I swear.

As for those matches Lord Kooler posted, the explanations are graphic themselves. Oh My GOD! The dude used a weedwacker? ...I guess you never seen it all until you watch those deathmatches...watch them if you haven't, kids.

Until then, ....the show is about to begin...

This crowd sucks. What happened to all the boos for Cena?

They need to stop the WWE vs. ECW storyline.

Just checking in with you after the first segment with some thoughts:

Excellent move with the ECW title. Van Dam is presented with the belt, yet the WWE title is in no way harmed by it, it's used as the reason to make Van Dam ECW champ, and help establish that belt's importance a bit more. It was also great to see them not try to screw with the belt's design, and present the classic belt.

I'm also happy with the use of Edge here, ECW guys have been sucker punching WWE guys for so long it makes our roster look like little bitch heels, so it's nice that WWE played fair and had Edge cheap shot our champ and number 1 face on our shows and Joey to say "that's how WWE does things". I also am glad Cena showed to just beat on Edge (so far) and didn't lay out RVD, since that would have made our champ look bad on our first night.

I'll be back on the next commercial break with more thoughts : )

The WWE creative group has got to be in control of ECW, because "The Zombie" is worse than Eugene.

The Sandman over The Zombie? That better not become a weekly thing...that one just left me kind of flat, and wasn't really funny.

So...we have Kelly the exhibitionist saying she's going to strip? Yeah...they're gonna get away with that one on TV.

So one really good segment, and one fairly bad one thus far in. This is not exactly coming off as truly alternative to RAW and SD! thus far.

At 6/13/06 10:22 PM, -CM- wrote: The WWE creative group has got to be in control of ECW, because "The Zombie" is worse than Eugene.

Probably did because its on the Sci-fi Channel but they turned into a good segment with The Sandman showing up and beating down the Zombie.

I can appreciate they want Kurt Angle getting over as unstoppable and all, and giving him the Taz like push of mowing people down to do it, but could it have NOT been at the expense of someone like Justin Credible? Just maybe?

Up next some girl plans to strip...riiiiight.

At 6/13/06 10:23 PM, aviewaskewed wrote: This is not exactly coming off as truly alternative to RAW and SD! thus far.

I agree, even though I hate WWE. I wish they would leave the creative control to ECW, and stop the whole WWE/ECW invasion storyline.

This show may need another hour to ever really succeed...I mean...what in the hell are they really doing here? We've so far seen vampires, zombies, and a girl who likes to strip, and a Kurt Angle match, is this what the new ECW is supposed to be all about? I hope this extreme battle royal can end this show on a good note, because so far this thing is pretty bad, and a damn train wreck.

Stevens A.'s ECW review

Hello everyone, and welcome to the first ECW show on Sci-Fi. I hope you enjoy this review.

RVD segment- It was all good, considering that RVD finally got the ECW World Heavy Championship. And, for a minute, I thought would show the respect RVD deserves and leave. But, it appears we'll have a heck of a match at Vengeance. Of course, Cena had to ruin everything. Damn you, Cena. Oh well, you'll get your's eventually, Cena....

The Zombie vs. The Sandman- Er, does the Zombie resemble the Ultimate Warrior to any of you guys? Eh, screw that...A great way to start of ECW.After his famous entrance, Sandman instantly opens a can of whup ass on this Zombie and beats him in about 30 seconds. Afterwards, Sandman beats his ass all the way to the back. After the match, a girl named Kelly says she's gonna take it all off at the end of the show...ooooook? Moving on...

Reflection on ONS segment- Practically, it shows how Lawler gets his ass kicked and booed out of the building. Very enjoyable. Anyways...

Kurt Angle vs. Justin Credible- Angle instantly starts attacking Credible as soon as he gets in the ring. Practically, we see Angle wipes the floor with Credible in the beginning. Then again, Credible never really had a chance. Angle won with the Rear Naked Choke in the end. After the match, he vows to make Orton tap out at Vengeance. Eh, afterwards, a battle royale is announced where all weapons are legal and the winner would face Cena at Vengeance. Then, after that, this Kelly girl appears again. What is freaking up with her? Ah well, I wouldn't mind seeing her "assets"....

Before the next segment, it shows a Vampire character showing his "teeth". Eh, I guess Paul E. wasn't kidding when he said vampire guys we're coming.

Kelly segment- Heh heh heh....God, I'm speechless. Damn, I wish I was recording that. Cuz, she was fucking hot! Ah well, moving on...

Extreme Battle Royale- Tommy Dreamer gets in the ring, Sabu gets in the ring, and a bunch of other people get in there, like Stevie Richards, Amish Roadkill, Little Guido, and Al Snow; the list goes on. Until, wait a minute! Big Show shows up and starts clearing house. Hell, he takes every damn participant out like yesterday's trash. One by one, Show throws them out. Then, when Big Guido gets thrown out, he tries to take Show with him. Eventually, Sabu smacks the chair across Big Show and takes him out. Sabu will now be facing Cena at Vengeance. But, from the looks of it, I don't think Sabu will be able to contend with Cena because it looked like Sabu's ribs were broken. Course, we'll find out then, won't we. Thank you for watching and good night.

How was that, guys? I see you guys been watching and commenting as well. I'll give my comments tomorrow. Good night!

Well, at least Sabu won that thing, so they avoided sending the message that only the defecting WWE guys matter, but damn, that show was such a train wreck and feels way too much like WWE creative is in full control of this thing. This debut can't really be called successful, and if the ratings are high, it's only gonna be because people were suckered into believing this was totally Paul E. controlled. I'll give it at least next week, but if it dosen't improve, I'm bolting. What should have been a triumphant return has pretty much been ruined for me here.

Disappointing show.

Things ECW needs to do to survive:
- Stop pushing Angle and Big Show so hard.
- Stop feuding with WWE.
- 2 hour shows.
- No more Sandman 30 second ass kickings.
- GET RID OF THE ZOMBIE
- Bring in CM Punk and give him his rightful push.
- No more filler things. (i.e. Kelly stripping. Yes, she was super hot, but it was a waste of time.)
- Give creative control to ECW.
- Bring in alot more non-WWE talent.
- No more 10-40 second choke out matches.

At 6/13/06 11:07 PM, aviewaskewed wrote: Well, at least Sabu won that thing, so they avoided sending the message that only the defecting WWE guys matter, but damn, that show was such a train wreck and feels way too much like WWE creative is in full control of this thing. This debut can't really be called successful, and if the ratings are high, it's only gonna be because people were suckered into believing this was totally Paul E. controlled. I'll give it at least next week, but if it dosen't improve, I'm bolting. What should have been a triumphant return has pretty much been ruined for me here.

Well, I thought for the most part it was entertaining. Although, the Zombie wasn't fricking needed, it was nice seeing Sandman cane his ass. But, for one hour, it was kinda mediocre. They should give them at least two hours for a good show.

Although ECW is good, they aren't TNA. Until then, more comments tomorrow.

PS: Shit, I thought Paul E. WAS in control...WHAT THE HELL'S GOING ON?

wow if Avie here is upset and saying that an ECW show was bad.. then dear god. And judging by the reviews, from what I can tell there were more non-action segments then there were matches. I have a pretty good feeling that this was not the first showing that Paul E. would have wanted if he was in control. But I'm sure Steph must be thrilled to death at the idea of ECW failing so she can get rid of it. Don't let her win Paul, cut the crap and go for what you know best.

It wasn't just bad, it was horrible I feel. It was exactly what ECW SHOULDN'T be, it was like WWE trying to do ECW. They had a solid opening, and then it was just all down hill from there. This was the sort of garbage show that forced Tod Gordon to become so fed-up with wrestling that he formed ECW in the first place. It was a slap in the face, it was disrespectful to the legacy of the show, and now instead of looking forward to future shows like I SHOULD be, I'm dreading them.

Horrible horrible night this has turned out to be.

Do you guys think that the new ECW will get inducted into Wrestlecrap? And did you watch the Death Matches that I posted on page 451 Outlaw88?

At 6/14/06 12:02 AM, aviewaskewed wrote: It wasn't just bad, it was horrible I feel. It was exactly what ECW SHOULDN'T be, it was like WWE trying to do ECW. They had a solid opening, and then it was just all down hill from there. This was the sort of garbage show that forced Tod Gordon to become so fed-up with wrestling that he formed ECW in the first place. It was a slap in the face, it was disrespectful to the legacy of the show, and now instead of looking forward to future shows like I SHOULD be, I'm dreading them.

The problem is we were just expecting too much too soon its only the first night so we couldn't expect five-star matches but it was a bit too WWE for my tastes but since it is Paul Heyman I have to give him a chance because I think after Vengeance the whole ECW-WWE angle will be over and ECW can go about their business.

And ECW better bring up and use CM Punk.

At 6/14/06 12:35 AM, pepeatumi wrote: The problem is we were just expecting too much too soon its only the first night so we couldn't expect five-star matches but it was a bit too WWE for my tastes but since it is Paul Heyman I have to give him a chance because I think after Vengeance the whole ECW-WWE angle will be over and ECW can go about their business.

I understand the first night is going to have problems, but when you're billing yourself as an alternative to the other wrestling shows out there, you don't do pretty much exactly what they do, only infinitely crappier. I'll give them a chance to change my mind, sure, it's entirely possible I'll be saying after next week how good the show was, but goddamn my expectations have been completely dropped into the crapper, because that was an ugly ugly show.

wow that really blew ecw sucked. I watched the Vengeance press conference and god DX really is lame. Those are just fucking retarded childish predictable my god. No!

I have a question, I'm pretty sure I know the answer but I want to be sure. Was that Gangrel looking at the "ECW Tonight" sign?

At 6/14/06 02:49 AM, boloneyman wrote: I have a question, I'm pretty sure I know the answer but I want to be sure. Was that Gangrel looking at the "ECW Tonight" sign?

NO. It was actually Mordecai... Who? Mordecai, you know long white hair was in Smackdown for like two weeks and got to squash Scotty 2 Hotty (who doesn't?). But that's not the end of the "supernatural" storylines on ECW...

Last night at ECW's debut, WWE filmed vignettes with a tarot card reading witch portrayed by Shelly Martinez.

And of a bit of a side note yet more anti-Cena signs were confiscated along with a couple more...

-John Cena Sucks
-Enter Sandman
-We Want CM Punk... Why in the hell did this get confiscated the dude is just saying what everybody wants.

I checked up on some things at ecwwrestlingnews.com.

Paul Heyman Writing ECW To Please Vince McMahon
Added on 06/14/06 at 10:16 AM

The debut ECW return show was written by Paul Heyman and then put through the WWE creative team who then edited it to how they think it should go.

Paul Heyman does not have the entire control of the ECW brand as you saw last night. Vince McMahon wants the product how he sees it. Paul Heyman wrote last night’s show in order to to meet McMahon's expectations and visions of ECW.

Paul Heyman Not Happy With ECW/SCI-FI Debut
Added on 06/14/06 at 10:14 AM

People who saw Paul Heyman backstage at the ECW show said that it was pretty clear that he thought the show was a train wreck.

Everyone in the company also felt the same way. Everyone knew that the show wasn’t how they wanted it to succeed and failed.

Also, "The Zombie isTim Arson from Northeeastern Independent Wrestling.

Well there is a problem right there. WWE is not letting ECW be ECW. The crowd should be able to express what they want.

I also think just having it on a channel that has never had wrestling on it is going to cause problems. Si-fi is already gettling flack from it's die-hard fans saying wrestling does not belong there, it got scared of ECW and made it so it was not a live showing, and of course only gave it an hour time-slot.

and as for thoes Death matches LK, I haven't yet but I will. I'm going to start with the Cactus Jack one since I'm a die-hard foley fan.

For you ECW fans that are completely ticked off at what is going on, the only sign of hope that I can give you is that some sources within WWE feel that this whole RAW vs. ECW thing is a way to build the Vengeance PPV and ECW brand and then after that, ECW will be on its own. Vince basically feels he needs to use RAW's ratings to get the product known to the WWE fans in hopes that ECW can survive on its own when there is no hype from RAW or SmackDown. Then again, there is talk of pushing the ECW vs. RAW angle through SummerSlam.

Look to tell you the truth if the whole ECW-WWE angle is going to continue through Summerslam you can pretty much stick a fork in ECW if it runs through Vengeance then I think ECW will be fine because it would mean only one more week of this WWE vs ECW crap.

It's becoming apparent as well that Sci-Fi is going to be worse then TNN in controlling show content, as they are demanding even more supernatural characters, and stopped them from having Sandman cain an alien on the show, so they went with The Zombie instead.

ECW got beat up by a couple of WWE guys on their show last night. It was ridicolous that the ECW locker room didn't come out and flank the ring when Edge came out just in case he was gonna try something, ditto with Cena. The show came off as just a way to hype Vengeance and RAW. If ECW isn't allowed to beat the shit out of the RAW guys on monday, they'll just keep looking like wannabes. It seems obvious Vince has no clue what is going on, and there's reports that he and Vince and Kevin Dunn were already fighting about elements of the show, in which Vince and Dunn won out. Like I say, I'll give it maybe another week. But I don't expect anything to change, I expect Vince will keep doing it his way, Sci-Fi will keep meddling with it, and I'll just turn off WWE programming forever.

dude, those deathmatches are sick, lordkooler, and besidesdon't you have to kill your oppenent to win a deathmatch? that's what I've heard your supposed to do in a "deathmatch"

D-X is officially re-united, and RAW is 100% better because of it.

ECW was mad awesome yesterday. In case you haven't heard, "The Zombie" and that vampire thing (which, like many others, I'm guessing is Gangrel.) were included at the request of Sci-Fi. I hope they really do sign Gangrel, I vaguely remember he was pretty cool back in the days of The Brood and The Undertaker's Ministry of Darkness"