LordKooler's Friday night Smackdown review
1.Christian & Orlando jordan vs Chris benoit & Booker T
This was originally a match between Benoit & Christian but it became a tag team match when Booker T & Orlando jordan got involved. Christian & Orlando jordan won at the end.
2.The No.1 contender for the WWE title
Smackdown GM Theodore long and "UPN network executive" Palmer cannon are in the ring to announce the no.1 contender for Batista's World heavyweight championship at No mercy. The No.1 contender is Eddie guerrero. Eddie guerrero? I thought it would be Randy orton. Eddie tells Batista he is a changed man and then Batista gives Eddie a hug.
3.Legion of doom vs MNM
A rematch of last week's tag team championship match. LOD won by DQ after MNM attacked them with the tag team titles.
4.Rey mysterio vs JBL
Rey mysterio has a new theme song. But it's not "Crossing borders" from WWE originals. It's a different theme song. Rey mysterio pulls a huge upset in the end.
5.Ken Kennedy vs Jobber
Ever since debuting on Velocity last month as Ken anderson, Ken kennedy has been undefeated. Kennedy won at the end.
6.Batista vs Nunzio
I thought Batista would wrestle a jobber like Simon dean. But instead it's Nunzio. The cruiserweight champion. Vito was on Nunzio's corner in this match. Big vito was part of a tag team in WCW with Johnny stamboli called the Mamalukes won won the Tag team titles and had a brief stint in TNA last year as a member of the New york city connection with Glen gilberti, Trinity, and Johnny Parisi. Batista won at the end.
7.Randy orton vs Undertaker
A U-haul truck came out during the match containing a casket containing an Undertaker lookalike. Undertaker won at the end.

At 9/16/05 10:23 PM, Outlaw88 wrote: well, it's like I said before, Sd is the tamer of the two shows and it hurts it in the long run.

It's the superstars for me. Before the draft, I preferred Smackdown, but after the draft, I like RAW just a little bit better.

I'm in Western time, so Smackdown still hasn't started yet. But after reading spoilers (damn me) it sounds like there are some interesting developments.

What the fuck baseball took over smackdown I don't know for how long. Fuck.

At 9/16/05 11:35 PM, AnzRage wrote: What the fuck baseball took over smackdown I don't know for how long. Fuck.

cause baseball is better then wrestling in the eyes of UPN. that is why wwe can't wait till their contract with upn runs out so that they can go somewhere else and do a better show

At 9/16/05 11:35 PM, AnzRage wrote: What the fuck baseball took over smackdown I don't know for how long. Fuck.

I was pissed about that, too. Sucky thing is, tomorrow I have to get up at 5 am to ride for 2 hours to go somewhere else, so I won't get back home until 3 or 4. So I'm taping Smackdown and watching it later, even though I already know the results. I shouldn't have read the spoilers. :(

Oh, and earlier in the thread, somebody mentioned that WWE was going to have Randy Orton ally himself with Rey Mysterio and Batista with Eddie Guerrero. He said that they were skipping alliances and going straight to Orton vs. Batista, but now that Eddie apparently has befriended Batista, does this also mean Orton is gonna do stuff with Rey?

And I also wasn't aware until now that Cruiserweights were eligible for the Heavyweight Championship. Eddie IS a Cruiserweight, isn't he?

After watching Smackdown tonight, I merely predicted everything. I must say, the fake undertaker was a big suprise though, and was very strange. I want the Undertaker to come to Raw, he's been on smackdown too long, and I think legends such as the undertaker belong on Raw, because raw has greater story plots, because they always create something new out of something already exhisting. While smackdown just does the same old crap again and again, like LOD vs. MNM, or small guys vs. Batista. On raw, the stroy may be similar also, but there is more intensity, integrity and intelligence put into the plot. Thus mind I mentioned the 3 Is of old school Kurt Angle. But it's true... and how come Benoit switches shows almost every single year? Triple H never switches shows, and big show jumps all the time also, undertaker only comes to wrestle now if there's a story line involved. and I think Ken Kenedy vs. Simon Dean would be a very good confrontation story line. Simon offers drink to Kenedy, Kenedy does his own entrance thing, but Simon attacks him, perfectly new story line made right there.

So when is SmackDown going to be shown again? Due to the Baseball?

At 9/17/05 12:53 AM, AnzRage wrote: So when is SmackDown going to be shown again? Due to the Baseball?

12:30. At least for me it is.

At 9/17/05 12:55 AM, cornontheconn wrote:

At 9/17/05 12:53 AM, AnzRage wrote: So when is SmackDown going to be shown again? Due to the Baseball?

12:30. At least for me it is.

Where do you live at and what channel?

At 9/17/05 12:32 AM, cornontheconn wrote: Oh, and earlier in the thread, somebody mentioned that WWE was going to have Randy Orton ally himself with Rey Mysterio and Batista with Eddie Guerrero. He said that they were skipping alliances and going straight to Orton vs. Batista, but now that Eddie apparently has befriended Batista, does this also mean Orton is gonna do stuff with Rey?

Yeah, that was me, there was talk internally about skipping straight to Orton/Batista, but it looks like smarter heads prevailed, and they've decided to go with the original plan of Eddie vs. Batista and Orton vs. Mysterio.

And I also wasn't aware until now that Cruiserweights were eligible for the Heavyweight Championship. Eddie IS a Cruiserweight, isn't he?

Eddie could be considered one, but Cruiser seems to mean guys who can't compete in the bigger weight classes, and or Velocity filler, this is honestly one thing that WCW actually managed to do better then Vince, that being utilize the Cruisers.

On the Warrior DVD? If you're a fan of the guy, you will find some of his best matches, but everything else around it will be offensive, this DVD has been described by insiders in the company and those who saw advanced copies as an out and out burial of the man and the character. It's so bad from what I understand, that Vince and Co almost make themselves out to be idiots for ever pushing this guy. If you hate the Warrior, well, this will be great for you to check out, me? I doubt I'll get this one, it's insane to me that Vince would want to use his tape library in this way, to go out and bury a guy that is in no way hurting him, or threatning his product. Just yet another example of how Vince can't let things go. I haven't heard great things about the Warrior, I've seen the guy make an ass of himself, but to put out a DVD just ripping him a new one, without giving him the chance to answer the criticisms and charges is immoral, irresponsible, and renders this DVD irrelavent as a chronicle of history (which is what all these DVD's purport themselves to be).

He couldn't get Goldberg over because he kept tweaking the gimmick and making him lose to his son-in-law.

-Goldbeg was week and couldn't play a part to make himself great if he wanted to past the WCW. He had ONE persona, and couldn't adapt.

:routinely humiliates Eric Bischoff on RAW.

-Eric Bischoff is a pawn and always was a pawn from Ted Turner, and he's still a pawn in the WWE.

He drove just about every regional promoter out of business in the 80's to expand nationally

-Sounds like tough and good business to me... sorry.

He's the guy putting out a DVD to bury the Ultimate Warrior, and he's got the ability to re-write history to suit his whims (and often does).

-Ultimate Warrior was an arrogant f***,(as some of the 80's fans remember) as were alot of the other wrestlers in the days of the 80's (Andre, Hogan, etc..) just some of them lived to make up for their sinfull ways and make up excusess. Blame it on Steroids and 80's hair metal.

:There are numerous examples throughout his tenure as WWE/F owner which show that people Mcmahon has a liking to on a personal level are pushed harder then those who may not have the same relationship,

-If you owned a business, wouldn't you want to promote the people you had the most confidence in to promote your business, to make your business the most money? Silly question.

Trust me, I don't say things that I don't have at least some evidence in support of.

Well, not much thought was put behind your argument, look at all the angles (slams) and think from all the views before you present your evidence.

I think some matches between eddie and batista will be awsome.

At 9/17/05 02:24 PM, Outlaw88 wrote: I think some matches between eddie and batista will be awsome.

Im still waiting for my damn batista and orton match!
Anyways I just ordered the new taker dvd, hope its pretty good?

im just want to known why is raw moving to the usa network

At 9/17/05 06:36 PM, RemRulzz wrote: im just want to known why is raw moving to the usa network

because they would get better ratings on USA then they would on SPike. maybe cause USA offered more money to get them back. their are alot of reasons. Personally. I think that spike dropped Raw so that they can get TNA

I am loking forward to seeing a few of the wrestlers that I liek again. I'm pretty sure
Raven is still a part of TNA.... right?

but raw is better then tna,i think spike if this the cast they drop the ball on this one

At 9/17/05 06:46 PM, RemRulzz wrote: but raw is better then tna,i think spike if this the cast they drop the ball on this one

you obvioulsy have no clue of what you are speaking of. TNA is better cause it si not watered down repeatitive shit

At 9/17/05 01:33 AM, AnzRage wrote:

At 9/17/05 12:55 AM, cornontheconn wrote:

At 9/17/05 12:53 AM, AnzRage wrote: So when is SmackDown going to be shown again? Due to the Baseball?

12:30. At least for me it is.

Where do you live at and what channel?

I can't tell you where I live. You're a stranger. :O

At 9/17/05 08:01 PM, DuMa_RyoHahn wrote:

At 9/17/05 06:46 PM, RemRulzz wrote: but raw is better then tna,i think spike if this the cast they drop the ball on this one

you obvioulsy have no clue of what you are speaking of. TNA is better cause it si not watered down repeatitive shit

your going to tell me you like tna,come on roh give better show then them,but its true wwe always come back to the same story over and over again,but its better then no story like tna and worst tna was no good talent aj styles,please he just wanabee etc....

At 9/17/05 03:31 AM, Stephan_M wrote: -Goldbeg was week and couldn't play a part to make himself great if he wanted to past the WCW. He had ONE persona, and couldn't adapt.

That one persona made him and WCW a lot of money, Vince just wouldn't push said persona because there's no way he'd let a WCW guy do that to his locker room, so knowing that, I don't understand why Vince put out the money for Goldberg, it's an investment that didn't pan out because Vince could not use him effectively.

-Eric Bischoff is a pawn and always was a pawn from Ted Turner, and he's still a pawn in the WWE.

Let me say right now, I HATE Eric Bischoff, I hate the man on a personal level, and for his professional ethics, but with that said, what you said is just ignorant. Bischoff is the ONLY guy that ever made WCW any money, he was not just another Turner pawn minding the money losing WCW store (that's what the people after him, and most of the people before him were for). Granted, Bischoff caused his own downfall, there's no denying that, when his well of good ideas ran dry, it ran as dry as the sahara, but when the man was on, he was most definitely on. He didn't beat Vince's ass for 82 weeks by pure luck.

-Sounds like tough and good business to me... sorry.

If you're competing? Sure, but the thing is, the territorial promoters never competed, everyone was on a handshake deal not to, and the NWA insured you didn't. I can understand both sides of that arguement though, Vince had a vision, and he pushed for it, and really? The regional guys hurt themselves, and if they had realized what Vince was doing earlier, and really gotten their shit together, they probably could have stopped him. So I'll concede the point there that that probably isn't the greatest example of "Vince the dick" as much as it's "Vince the cut throat" and whether or not it was a dickheaded move is a matter of debate and interpretation.

-Ultimate Warrior was an arrogant f***,(as some of the 80's fans remember) as were alot of the other wrestlers in the days of the 80's (Andre, Hogan, etc..) just some of them lived to make up for their sinfull ways and make up excusess. Blame it on Steroids and 80's hair metal.

Ok, so because the guy was a jerk, that gives Vince the right to make a DVD that should more aptly be titled "My Revenge on The Ultimate Warrior"? I think it's immature, and Vince should just grow up and move on, I think he could make much more money, and endgender more fan goodwill, if he'd do this project with Warrior's cooperation, or at least give the man a chance to respond to the charges against him. Just slamming him for the sake of slamming him is totally wrong and unethical.

-If you owned a business, wouldn't you want to promote the people you had the most confidence in to promote your business, to make your business the most money? Silly question.

I would, you're right, it's a silly question to ask. But Vince's problem is that he insists on pushing a lot of people who have proven they CAN'T make him money (JBL) I can understand the theory that those that owe you the most loyalty are the guys you can build around, but Vince is in the position where he is the untouchable master of wrestling at a national level (though TNA will be challenging that at some point should they manage to maximize their oppurtunities), there's no reason to push guys who can't draw, JBL is somebody who can fill out a mid-card spot nicely I feel, but the man isn't built to be a headliner, the box office proves it, and the audience apathy proved it, yet this is the sort guy Vince chooses to push over and over. When you're losing money, you're making a bad business decision, no matter how loyal the guy, if he can't make you money, you can't make him the flag bearer of your business.

Well, not much thought was put behind your argument, look at all the angles (slams) and think from all the views before you present your evidence.

I'd say the same thing to you, since I just invalidated almost all your arguements as easily as you thought you invalidated mine.

At 9/17/05 06:44 PM, Outlaw88 wrote: I am loking forward to seeing a few of the wrestlers that I liek again. I'm pretty sure
Raven is still a part of TNA.... right?

Yeah, though he just sadly dropped the NWA title back to Jarrett...hopefully Jarrett has it just to drop it again on the first episode of Impact! because an extended Jarrett title reign isn't what TNA needs right now because it looks too much like what WWE does with putting the belt on an older guy, and Vince will be able to say "well, I have my belts on young guys now, and that guy used to work for me, as a MID-CARDER". They really need to have him drop it as soon as possible, on camera, and it needs to be to someone who can take the ball and run with it, and someone that Vince would not give the ball to at that (it's very important they establish themselves as different, which I believe they can do).

Time is counting down. 13 days from now will be the first episode of TNA impact. I really have to tell you that this is going to be a breathe of frsh air for a old fan like me. you know folks here is homework for you people out their. watch the last raw on spike on the 26th, then watch the first episode of TNA on saturday the 1st. and compare whihc gave you more action, better thrills, and what kept you intrested not bored to death. Just cause Raw is going back to USA does not mean that it will breakout new and better stuff. it willbe the same shit just on adifferent network

Doesn't Jeff run TNA? Im have always felt that if your the booker of teh show, as well as the wrestlers you shouldn't keep yourself as champ or top performer. I hate when people do stuff like that. Jeff giving himdelf the belt over and over just because he runs it is a bad thing to do.

At 9/18/05 01:04 PM, Outlaw88 wrote: Doesn't Jeff run TNA? Im have always felt that if your the booker of teh show, as well as the wrestlers you shouldn't keep yourself as champ or top performer. I hate when people do stuff like that. Jeff giving himdelf the belt over and over just because he runs it is a bad thing to do.

true but at the same time, if he is the boss why not make himself top dog? Imean people who run companies give themselves pats on the back and bounses for no reason. if you run a wrestling company and wrestle yourself, why not be at the top of the mountain?

what do people think is beta raw or smackdown i think smackdown is because it has the world heavyweight belt also it has the bigger names like batista and orton and jbl i think whatever show has got the heavy weight belt will be the best and another thing when is tiple h coming back and i hope he goes to smackdown because raw hasnt got the wrestlers with the most talent also when triple h comes back i wonder what storyline they put him in

At 9/18/05 01:16 PM, DuMa_RyoHahn wrote: true but at the same time, if he is the boss why not make himself top dog? Imean people who run companies give themselves pats on the back and bounses for no reason. if you run a wrestling company and wrestle yourself, why not be at the top of the mountain?

Keeping yourself near the top is a good idea, it allows you to be able to switch the belt back to someone you can trust if a guy trys to hold you up for money, and use your title as a hostage. However, it's not a good idea to consistently run yourself as champion, since the fans always wind up turning against it as it becomes stale and repetitive (Triple H anyone?) plus, Jarrett is a competent worker, but I just don't buy him as a main eventer.

http://www.pwinsider..asp?id=13103&p=1

Great article remembering Ted "Rocco Rock" Petty. One of the shining stars of ECW early on. R.I.P. Champ.

At 9/18/05 03:15 PM, aviewaskewed wrote:

:Jarrett is a competent worker, but I just don't buy him as a main eventer.

Yeah, Double J was ok but he was never good enough to headline a show. didn't they try to get him to do that in WCW? Egh well he better hope he knows what the deal is. once he hits spike he will be up against vince and if vince feels a tiny breeze of uncomfort it will be "bye bye" to TNA

Wouldnt it be cool to see TNA put WWE outta business ? Not fucking likely but funny none the less. =)

Yes outlaw as far as I know Raven is still on TNA.