One thing about the taker kane match at wrestlemania is that they're is gonna be some kind of stipulation

I hope Kane goes to SmackDown! cause I swear to GOD that if Smackdown! looses one more freakin' good wrestler.....::gets M16 ready::

So. . . is anyone going to WrestleMania 20 or whatever ? I wish i was

I think it's every true wrestling fans dream to be at WM. I'd love to be there personally..I wish they would have kept that nightclub open, just in case I ever get to visit NY, but alas they closed it..

Man I'd kill to go to WM XX! I've heard that rumor has it that its going to be the best ever and will showcase some of the best matches ever devised. My mom went to one of the Wrestle Mainias and she said it was one of the best experiences of her life

At 10/6/03 12:19 PM, -Rook- wrote:

well, i'd personally take what i can get. see, i live in Newfoundland, and there's FUCK ALL here.Absolutely nothing of value ever goes on. WWE has only been here once before, so i'd just be happy to attend at least one house show. And just because they didn't have matches, Jericho, Michaels, Nash, etc. might still have been there, right? (i've never been to a house show, so i don't know if they do segments between matches or not)

I have never seen segements at a house show involving people who werent scheduled for a match. In fact I have never seen segemnts/skecths/interviews at a house by ever.....

Also I went to wrestlemania 18 in toronto (im from winnipeg, my mom lives in toronto and she bought me wicked seats) I am going to wrestlemania 20 with a bunch of my friends..... its going to be awesome..... I love fan axxess where they have all the wrestlers sign autographs and interact with the fans, i hope they do it in new york...... but i havent heard about it yet.......

Damn you are lucky! I've been to Armagedon twice, thats about it for PPV, I've also been to house shows and smackdown/raw tapings. I love live stuff, it's always a blast!

HAHAHA you wish to go to wrestlemania I'm actually going to wrestlemania whooooooo.

So...whos your favorite diva.

At 10/6/03 07:18 PM, E-Rayz wrote: So...whos your favorite diva.

torrie or stacy. The rest are to manly......

My favorite diva would have to be Torrie Wilson she's just so damn hot

why did it take 3 commercial breaks to get Kane out of the limo???? just wonderin is all.....

I've got some comments about Raw, but I'll wait until the Rook review is out.

Rook's RAW Review
Kane def. Rosey the SHiT - well, this match confirmed what we all knew: Rosey is not meant to be a singles competitor. Not a bad match, but nothing worth watching either. I did get at least one chuckle out of it. Kane couldn't lift Rosey. Anyway, Hurricane is an idiot. What kind of petty, vindictive superhero is he? Kane didn't continue to assault Rosey, so why did he have to step in? Anyway, the Shane stuff was pretty cool, but it didn't WOW me. Maybe I'm just desensitized...The only problem i had with it is that they spent all that time demonizing Kane with stuff like being able to escape an inferno unscathed, but then they humanize him by showing him going to the hospital. Make up your mind. Do you want a monster or just a crazy guy?
Lita def. Gail Kim - not bad. Finally, a women's angle with NO Trish Stratus or "Puppies!" The match was pretty good too. I really don't have much more to say besides "Welcome home, Lita."
Scott Steiner def. Spike Dudley - ok, this pissed me off. They start the match during the commercial break, then cut half of it to show Kane go to the hospital? What a pile of shit. For what we saw in the match, it wasn't bad. Really makes Steiner a better heel to have him annihilate people who can't fight back. Of course, Bubba and D-Von show up. Test saves the day. Maybe I'm looking to far ahead, but could we possibly be seeing new tagteam champions, or maybe Stacy becoming the Dudleys manager?
Lance Storm&RVD def. Chris Jericho&CLB - I like Christian, but "Creepy Little Bastard" suits him for some reason. Anyway, the Coach, Y2J and CLB gave some valid points. Why do they continuously have Stone Cold make rematch after rematch until things go his way? Stone Cold is an asshole. He's washed up. Time to cut your loses and ditch the texas rattlesnake. If he was wrestler, it'd be cool, but now he's lame. Still, it is stupid that Austin can't touch anyone, but over on Smackdown, Vince can smack Angle with a chair if he wants, or book himself in matches (remember Hogan/McMahon at WM?) Anyway, the match spectacular. Best of the night. We had 4 of RAW's most talented performance putting on one hell of a match. It was so appropriate to have Storm get the pin on Jericho. Come on WWE, follow this up with a Storm/Jericho fued.
Evolution def. Garrison Cade&Mark Jindrak - another great tag team match. Jindrak got one of the best dropkicks in the biz. From seeing this, I think its safe to say that even if Cade goes nowhere, Jindrak has a bright future ahead of him. Hell, for a moment, I actual thought J&C would get the win. Great stuff. 2nd best match of the night.
Maven&Trish def. Stevie Richards&Victoria - remember when I said "No Trish or Puppies?" I was wrong! Damn you, Lawler! Pretty good match, all things considered. Maven vs. Flair next week? Sounds good to me. Flair has more titles then Maven's had women? That logic doesn't follow through. Lets say Maven's only had one woman, but he had that woman three times a day for a year. Now who's the winner, Flair? And they need to give Richards better matches. He's always in either a squash match (which he loses) or a mixed tag match (which he loses when HE gets pinned. Never Victoria)
Goldberg def. Mark Henry - ok, no one will agree with me here, but I liked this match. Its refreshing to see one man just toss Goldberg around like a doll. They should've had the title on the line though. They make it seem like money is more important than the title, which shouldn't be the case. Considering his size, Henry can move pretty fast too. And Goldberg comes across as a jerk. He speared Michaels, but wouldn't help him, or apologize. Some face. He really needs a heel turn. Also, two things I'd do different. First, I'd have face and heel alike go after Goldberg. Everyones got a price. I'd also have made it a Title Match and gave Henry the win. Here's why: When a wrestler has a manager, its the manager has the title, in my view. When Brock won the first time, it wasn't his title, it was Paul Heyman's since he made Lesnar. Same deal with Henry. It'd be Theodore Long's title, since he made Henry.
TEH EDN!

This saturday on Confidential, they'll go backstage with Eric Bischoff to show how RAW is done. Hurray for Bischoff! I don't usually watch Confidential, but I'm like the #1 Bischoff Fan (okay, i'm exaggerating) Yeah Bischoff!

Did anyone else but me notice the screw up thay had with the limo? Kane busted up the back window as well as the sunroof before he got in, but when the limo drives into the truck you can clearly see the window in tack. That was actually shot earlier in the day and Kane busted the windows live..

Something bothers me about Cade and Jindrak..We know absolutly nothing about them! They almost never talk, and The commentators barly give us background info. They have no true gimmick eitjer...it's like they are just there.. Everybody needs some soret of thing going for them, even maven has a gimmick to follow. Guys with no story to them, no insight are real hard to get behind. They are talented, I give them that but they need to be doing more.

Mark in white scares me..

While on the subject of tag-teams Rook reported earlier that in the Raw house showthe team of Dreamer and Richards was there. I hoestly think that could be a great tag-team to bringto tv. Think about it, both Former ECW stars, former hardcore champs, and former tag-team champs in ECW. Dreamer has also been the ECW champ. Thats a highly qualified veteran team. Also storyline wise, Neither has been extremly sucsessful on their own, so maybe together they could get big.

I have to agree with you on the Jindrak And Cade tag team they don't have a gimmick and people usually use their matches to go to the bathrooms you never hear them respond to anything Cade and Jindrak they're both very talented but they really need a gimmick.

A RVD/Jericho fued would be good I think..Each time they are together they put on one hell of a match.

Ok, wrestlemania is coming up, and I was curious as to what matches you would make if you ran things. Just try to stick with wrestlers who are not retired, have been with the wwe at least once, and more or less stick with the brand extension limitations (although i myself will break this rule once)

On the RAW side, I'd have a Fatal Fourway for the Heavyweight title between Hunter, Jericho, Shawn Michaels and Booker T. I'd also have ladder match for the IC title between RVD and Jeff Hardy. I'd change Thuggin and Buggin a bit and have Jindrak/Cade vs. Mack/D'Lo Brown for the Tag Titles. I'd have a grudge match between Nash, Michaels and Flair against Orton, Batista and Maven. Finally, I'd have Goldberg vs. Stone Cold where the loser has to retire (that way no one will be upset, as both men suck)
For Smackdown, I'd have Kurt Angle vs. John Cena for the Undisputed Title. I'd have Triple Threat for the Cruiserweight Title between Ultimo Dragon, Tajiri and either Kendrick or Kidman. A US Title SteelCage or Hell in a Cell match between Eddie Guerrero and Sean O'Haire (i like O'Haire, and I'd give him the push he needs. Sue me) A Tag Team Title Match between the reunited tandem of Rey Mysterio and Edge against either APA or Benjamin&Haas. As for the very last match of the night, I'd cheat a little and book either Hogan/Rock (but this time Hogan'd win) or Kane vs. Undertaker in either an Inferno, Casket or Buried Alive match.

At 10/7/03 09:00 PM, -Rook- wrote: stuff

Ok, I made two mistakes. Omit Michaels from the fourway and make it a triple threat. Add both Kendrick and Kidman and make the cruiserweight match a fourway. My bad =P

Well a couple of those matches could happen stone cold vs goldberg and Taker vs Kane. Since I'm talking about Taker supposedly he's going to have a buried alive match against Vince at the survivor series keep your eyes peeled because that could be interesting

What do you guys think about No Mercy so far Taker will go against Brock for the title and for some stupid reason Vince is fighting Stephanie do u think No Mercy is shaping up to be a great ball of suck?

At 10/7/03 09:18 PM, pepeatumi wrote: What do you guys think about No Mercy so far Taker will go against Brock for the title and for some stupid reason Vince is fighting Stephanie do u think No Mercy is shaping up to be a great ball of suck?

sort of. Benoit vs. A-Train looks like crap, but we will get Mysterio vs. Tajiri, and I hear they may also put in Guerrero vs. Big Show and Angle vs. Cena. It might be pretty good.

At 10/7/03 09:16 PM, pepeatumi wrote: Well a couple of those matches could happen stone cold vs goldberg and Taker vs Kane. Since I'm talking about Taker supposedly he's going to have a buried alive match against Vince at the survivor series keep your eyes peeled because that could be interesting

well, i already knew about Kane/Taker, i was just stating the stipulation i'd make. I didn't know about Austin/Goldberg, but hopefully my perdiction will come true. Though i'd perfer if Goldberg won. I can at least tolerate him, but I hate Austin

Those matches are pretty good,but you forgot a title. i'd have Lita, Jazz, and Molly go at it..They at least can wrestle..Maybe Ivory.

At 10/7/03 10:13 PM, Outlaw88 wrote: Those matches are pretty good,but you forgot a title. i'd have Lita, Jazz, and Molly go at it..They at least can wrestle..Maybe Ivory.

I didn't forget. I just couldn't think of a cool match. See, i'd want to spice it up somehow. Maybe a women's StreetFight, or Tables Match? Something that hasn't been done before. I drew a blank, so I ignored the Women's Title. But the reason I wrote this was i was curious as to what everyone elses "Fantasy Wrestlemania" would be. (You'll also notice I omitted Lesnar, but every other big draw is there, so who cares? )

At 10/7/03 09:00 PM, -Rook- wrote: stuff

I would have the following card:

"Stone" cold Steve Austin vs "The Heartbreak kid" Shawn Michaels- for the title- raw side

Bret "The Hitman" Hart vs Kurt Angle- for the title on smackdown

"Razor Ramon" vs "Diesel"

Randy Orton vs John Cena

Undertaker vs Kane vs Mick Foley in a Cell match

HHH vs Y2J vs Goldberg vs Brock Lesnar vs Edge vs The Rock in an elimination chamber

Booker T vs Christian vs RVD vs Eddie Guerrero vs Rey vs Kidman vs Tajiri vs Benoit in a US/Intercontinental TLC unification match

Hulk Hogan vs Rick Flair

This is a PERFECT card! notice: no a-train, no big slow, no dudleys, no crap.....enjoy.....

At 10/8/03 12:20 AM, shadowmoses_sol wrote: I would have the following card:

Good list of matches you got there.
Look at mine.
Hulk hogan vs Randy savage,
Bret hart vs kurt angle,
Brock lesnar vs goldberg for the raw & smackdown championship,
If jeff hardy comes back he should fight tajiri for the cruiserweight title,
Another gimmick battle royal,
And last but not least, Rob van dam vs eddie guerrero
for the intercontinental & u.s titles

wow those would be cool. I'm drawing a blank right now..God I hate mornings..