I know you guys have already gone past this topic, but I couldn't help but notice.

At 7/3/10 05:16 AM, Aigis wrote: I find that Kyoto Animation usually improve their source material. For example, the Lucky Star manga is simply terrible (I'm not planning on getting into a discussion about how 'the anime is terrible too' by the way).

Now I quite enjoyed the Lucky*Star manga, and I even plan on buying the complete set that has been released in the US. I especially like how it's 4koma style lends itself to feeling very much like a western comic. The key to enjoying it is to not give it a consistent storyline, but look at it as if were a collection of daily comic strips of the kind printed from a newspaper (this sort of applies to the anime as well). It's sort of like Garfield; how certain events that happen may or may not affect the characters in the future, and they tend not to.

Now about the topic on hand... I keep hearing about how Naruto steals fighting scenes from other animes; is this true?

At 7/3/10 10:30 PM, firemaker60 wrote: It's sort of like Garfield; how certain events that happen may or may not affect the characters in the future, and they tend not to.

It's also like Garfield in that it's really unfunny.

At 7/3/10 10:30 PM, firemaker60 wrote:
Now about the topic on hand... I keep hearing about how Naruto steals fighting scenes from other animes; is this true?

I've never heard that, but I did hear that Nick Simmons' OEL manga Incarnate stole content from popular manga like Naruto and Bleach. Is it possible you got some stories mixed up? I get that all the time.

At 7/3/10 11:29 PM, HibiscusKazeneko wrote: I've never heard that, but I did hear that Nick Simmons' OEL manga Incarnate stole content from popular manga like Naruto and Bleach. Is it possible you got some stories mixed up? I get that all the time.

I believe he is talking about this.

At 7/4/10 12:42 AM, IlikeKorn123 wrote:

At 7/3/10 07:43 PM, Gobblemeister wrote:

No, Bram Stoker's Dracula came out first

I'm talking about anime you turbo tard ass.

Well your talking about rip offs. Everything that has ever been about hunting a vampire is ripping off Dracula, that was my point.

It's shonen, there really isn't much in the way of art and beauty in them

There is beauty in them, if video games can be art, so can animes.

I didn't say animes, I said shonen, you know anime for 12-17 year old boys. I know anime as a genre can be artistic.

Nah Son! I'm too busy watching all my cool original shows like Naruto and Bleach to check out new stuff.

Bet you do because your a shallow motherfucker.

Oh I do, I get so absorbed in the characters it's like I know them. The action scenes are so badass and the plotlines are never at any point derivative of anything ever!

Well alright then, you're entitled to your opinion

I am defeated

At 7/4/10 01:06 AM, Mendou wrote: And the relationship between Sasuke and Naruto is a tragic and a complex one.

Yes.

At 7/4/10 10:40 PM, IlikeKorn123 wrote: Anime can still be made by america and it would just be american anime.

You're misunderstanding the meaning of the word 'anime'. It means 'animation made in Japan'.

At least, that is the Western meaning of the word.

Saying anime can be American is like saying American animation can be Japanese.

Does it really matter?

Avatar is a good show, one that is similar enough to Anime to be discussed similarly

If it came up I'm sure we could talk about it like we would any anime.

It doesn't have to be called 'Anime' to be pretty much the same thing.

Does it have to be called 'Anime' to be relevant?

Yes, this is the anime club and therefore anime should be discussed.

But I think it would be perfectly reasonable to assume that Avatar could be discussed here seeing as it has all the qualifications to be anime other than it's birthplace.

It's kind of like Presidency, you could be the coolest 35 year old man in American politics but if you weren't born in America, no presidency for you!

I think calling Invader ZIM an anime is a bit of a stretch but I think Avatar is close enough to be accepted here as a relevant topic for discussion.

At 7/4/10 11:17 PM, IlikeKorn123 wrote: I know I'm right, I made many points to say why these shows should be called anime for they're styles except for the fact that they're AMERICAN.

The word 'anime' doesn't describe a style in which an animation is drawn. It just describes the country of origin of the animation. That is, Japan.

It just so happens that Japan is particularly unoriginal with the styles of its animation.

At 7/4/10 11:30 PM, LaForge wrote: I never said Avatar shouldn't be discussed, I said it doesn't qualify as true anime. Anime comes from Japan. I mean, it's where the word "anime" was derived. It's short for "Japanimation".

Actually, anime is short for 'animeshon'.

At 7/4/10 11:30 PM, LaForge wrote: I never said Avatar shouldn't be discussed, I said it doesn't qualify as true anime. Anime comes from Japan. I mean, it's where the word "anime" was derived. It's short for "Japanimation".

I don't watch Avatar though because I'm not 13 years old.

Oh come on, it's a pretty good show

In fact, it benefits from not being Japanese because it carries with it more maturity than the average shonen anime and isn't littered with bad jokes and fanservice.

Avatar has gags and sometimes it is funny but it doesn't try or force the jokes. The focus is always on the characters and their development.

Isn't that what good anime is about?

Plus the well choreographed action scenes are sweet too.

At 7/4/10 11:54 PM, LaForge wrote:

At 7/4/10 11:41 PM, Gobblemeister wrote:

I've never seen a full episode so honestly I'm just talking out my ass on that subject. I don't plan on tuning into Nickelodeon anytime soon, tho.

It get's a lot better in the second season IMO because Earthbending and Earthbenders are badass. Not to mention Toph is one of my favorite characters in the series.

Some of the episodes in the first season seem a bit pointless because they're almost entirely character development instead of plot advancement. They ditched that for season 2 though because by then we already connected with the main cast and even the majority of the villains.

It also is one of only a few series I've watched that wraps up nicely. Avatar is as atypical to Nick as you can get.

At 7/5/10 12:02 AM, LaForge wrote:

At 7/4/10 11:59 PM, Gobblemeister wrote: Avatar is as atypical to Nick as you can get.

That intrigues me. I may delve into this series a bit.

Each season is less than 20 episodes and there are three seasons so it shouldn't eat up as time as other series

Anyway, who has seen the original Hellsing series and who agrees Alucard is the most badass vampire character of all time?

I've been considering getting into Hellsing, but yes Alucard is badass

At 7/5/10 12:21 AM, LaForge wrote: I meant this Alucard =].

I know =}

At 7/5/10 12:03 AM, IlikeKorn123 wrote: hellsing ripped off vampire huntered, all vampire series are boring.

It has a similar premise, but I wouldn't say it 'ripped it off'. They're very different in terms of content, style, and tone.

The monster who fights other monsters premise has been used in a bunch of things. Vampire Hunter D can't copyright that idea.

Off the top of my head I can think of:

Hellsing
Soul Reaver
Angel
Blade
Blood+
(True Blood?)

And the idea was inevitable. It's just "Hey, what if in Dracula, van Helsing was also a vampire?"

At 7/3/10 12:28 PM, LaForge wrote:

At 7/2/10 10:14 PM, BaronVonBadGuy wrote: Samurai Champloo for the first time.

Prepare to have your favorite anime changed.

I just finished it last night, first thoughts are pretty damned awesome (though [SPOILERS] last ep or 2 got a bit stupid with all the dying and not-quite-dead-ing going on)

Loved it, but not sure whether i'd rank it over Cowboy Bebop. Obviously both are pretty damned similar but I think the mushrooms ep of Cowboy Bebop just nudges it to first over Samurai Champloo.

At 7/5/10 06:34 AM, BananaBreadMuffin wrote: I just finished it last night, first thoughts are pretty damned awesome (though [SPOILERS] last ep or 2 got a bit stupid with all the dying and not-quite-dead-ing going on)

Those episodes were purpousfuully silly.

Loved it, but not sure whether i'd rank it over Cowboy Bebop. Obviously both are pretty damned similar but I think the mushrooms ep of Cowboy Bebop just nudges it to first over Samurai Champloo.

Champloo is visually better than Bebop, mostly because it's newer and had higher producton values. But I agree that Cowboy bebop had a lot going for it that Champlooo doesn't. The plot in CB is better IMO. That, and despite being a hip-hop fan, Jazz is more epic. 23 Skidoo, hepcat.

Hey, I know this is the anime club, but can anyone help me finding a chapter of a manga?

Heart no Kuni no Alice

I'm trying to find chapter 25, can anyone help?

At 7/3/10 04:29 PM, IlikeKorn123 wrote: I heard that Hellsing is a ripoff of Blood and Vampire HuntereD!

why do anime guys get away with that!

First of all, the only thing Hellsing has in common with those is vampires, which have been found in many many works of fiction for a very long time. Second, I'm pretty sure Hellsing was around before Blood.

At 7/3/10 06:14 PM, IlikeKorn123 wrote: they are rip offs and really boring too, it's just stupid that they had hellsing rip off everything else.

But they're not even similar.

there are no original animes anymore like they had with monster rancher. meta bots, gundam wing escalfone, or things like beyblade.

Oh, so you're joking, then.

At 7/5/10 08:05 AM, JohnnyWang wrote:

At 7/5/10 06:34 AM, BananaBreadMuffin wrote: I just finished it last night, first thoughts are pretty damned awesome (though [SPOILERS] last ep or 2 got a bit stupid with all the dying and not-quite-dead-ing going on)

Those episodes were purpousfuully silly.

Yeah I spose you're probably right. Still shit rocked.

At 7/5/10 12:03 AM, IlikeKorn123 wrote:
hellsing ripped off vampire huntered, all vampire series are boring.

This is what irratates me about some anime fans, modern anime is ripping off something else, wheather its vampires, mechs, magic, or other shit like that. I'm sure someone mentioned it before, but just because they have a similar plot/style doesn't automatically mean it's a ripoff of an older anime.
Oh, FYI, Hellsing {The OVA} is the shit, Boobs, Blood, Nazis, Star Wars references for the lolz, you can't go wrong with that, but don't just take my word for it.

Also, this may be me, but everyone seems to missing another anime with is somewhat similar to CB,It's long, underrated, forgotten cousin, Outlaw Star, and If I remember correctly, it was the same studio that made CB.

That's enough plugs for one day.

At 7/5/10 08:00 PM, orangebomb wrote: just because they have a similar plot/style doesn't automatically mean it's a ripoff of an older anime.

They don't even have that, really, especially a similar style. just vampires.

Also, this may be me, but everyone seems to missing another anime with is somewhat similar to CB,It's long, underrated, forgotten cousin, Outlaw Star, and If I remember correctly, it was the same studio that made CB.

Well, you ain't been 'round these here parts long. Everyone knows that one. I still love that show. People seem to compare this show to Cowboy Bebop a lot because they think of it as a space bounty hunter show, even though Gene and Jim aren't really bounty hunters. They take odd jobs and happen to catch a bounty in like two episodes, one of those episodes having nothing to do with that beyond the one scene where Gene apprehends the guy (Death Rob), and the other pretty much being a filler episode about their tight money situation.

Korn is very homosexual and liking them is a great sign of shitty taste, so who cares about your opinion?

At 7/5/10 09:23 PM, IlikeKorn123 wrote: you just like shit like metallica, who are hasbeens.

fuck off right now asshole and don't disrespect my choices.

I do love the blatant hypocrisy.

I wonder if I was this annoying when I was 13.

This thread...it is full of suffocating...murderous intent!!!

At 7/5/10 09:23 PM, IlikeKorn123 wrote: Korn is the best band of all time, your just too stupid to appreciate their thoughtful music, when they sing about rape victims and standing up for what's right.

DAAA BUM NOP DA MMMMMM NOM NA NEEMA

Even if it were true that they have good lyrics, that wouldn't be enough to compensate for their failure in every other area.

I bet you like Slipknot, too.

fuck your jumpdafuckup nu-rock bullshit.

you just like shit like metallica, who are hasbeens.

Metallica was alright back in the day. never was that into them.

fuck off right now asshole and don't disrespect my choices.

FIIIIGHT
SOME
NEEE NAAAAAW NA NEEEMAOOOOOOH
FIIIIGHT
SOME THINGS THEY FOOOOIGHT

lol You're not even entirely wrong about vampires in anime.

At 7/5/10 09:32 PM, Aigis wrote: I wonder if I was this annoying when I was 13.

13, eh? I know I had the bad taste, but I refuse to believe I quite had the horrible attitude.

At 7/5/10 09:36 PM, IlikeKorn123 wrote: If we were near eachother now in life, I'd kill you like in mortal kombat and rip yourhead off...

I AM OFFENDED

amused