wow, i can't believe the BPB is actually gone :0 they had a long run... at first i thought the cartoons were kinda funny, but overtime as bobblehead started making all the cartoons as he shut off contact with himself and the outside world, they all started looking like the exact same cartoon. it lost what little humor it had :(

so if the BPB series has come to an end, hopefully more crap from the portal will come to an end, i know there's no way we can completely stop all spam, unless we had portal mods or something, but who says its up for them to decide whats crap and whats not, so this won't work.

i'll miss those sexy BPB entries, and the memories will still live on :P

i'd just like to end this with an "im sorry wade"

no one point fingers, we all know what happened here :X

I'm glad these stupid entries are being removed. I am sick of seeing that my vote of roughly 6.5 or 7 has no effect on stopping KK or other rubbish flashes.

I've always voted on the submission properly under judgement and then I vote 5 or 0 on some well known flashes so I can get XP.

Meh, miss being a review mod so I can get rid of these idiots who flag reviews which shouldn't be flagged just because they say some of these KK things are rubbish.

Go Wade!

At 10/12/06 03:53 PM, naojason wrote:

At 10/12/06 03:14 PM, WadeFulp wrote:

At 10/12/06 02:39 PM, naojason wrote:

As for the answer to your question: Take it away. One person, one vote is more fair than one person, thirteen votes any day. As History has proven (both in and out of the Internet), one's experience with voting does not necessairly prove they are capable of making a good voting decision and hence should not be a reason to increase their voting power. As far as I'm concerned, even weighing someone's vote more than one is abuse.

Most users that have a high enough voting power to really impact whether a flash passes judgement or not are mature enough to make intelligent votes. I can't really picture Denvish or ramagi for example thinking ''LOL V0T3S DA FIFEN!!!' on a submission that shouldn't pass judgment just as they woulnd't zero a submission that has merit. And besides, the high power voters aren't all online at the same time anyways. It can be unfair if there are users that do so but doubt many do. I wouldn't call it abuse, that's going a little far...

If you truly want a system where one's opinion and feelings about the worth of a Flash movie should be more heavily weighed than others because they've voted on more and have more experience voting (example, Chrome- before he was deleted), then you simply need to respect the overall decisions of the 200 voters that resulted in the overall passing of a movie (considering the relative weights on all ends), no matter what your personal opinions are. As long as people aren't unfairly garnering extra accounts and proxies to vote, I do not see a real problem in the context of the current system, as it then does what it is supposed to.

Your arguments about how 'the system is flawed' are good and I don't deny in any way that it isn't perfect, however... Groups that go ahead and deliberatley try to break the system just to show that it isn't perfect isn't what I would call 'helping Newgrounds'. The system runs fine without SS, UU and KK pointing out it's flaws. And when there are anomalies like an undeserving submission passes judgment or a quality submission gets blammed, there will be mods there to make sure that justice is carried out. Breaking something in order to make it better isn't productive, it's ignorant.

Sidenote

The award for 'Most mature response of the day' goes to...

At 10/12/06 03:42 PM, jn wrote: rupeeclock is a faggot

At 10/12/06 04:30 PM, GarlicJr wrote: What's big penis brigade.

Until their deletion, they uploaded two minutes a day with the same incredibly long and "Flashy" intro before the actual content, which was never worthy of passing judgement.

After 70 or so submissions of this all being the same thing, it was finally deleted and rules against such a thing were introduced.

At 10/12/06 04:32 PM, RupeeClock wrote:

At 10/12/06 04:30 PM, GarlicJr wrote: What's big penis brigade.

Until their deletion, they uploaded two minutes a day with the same incredibly long and "Flashy" intro before the actual content, which was never worthy of passing judgement.

After 70 or so submissions of this all being the same thing, it was finally deleted and rules against such a thing were introduced.

They also caused world peace, and had we managed to make it to 80, we would have cured cancer.
You hear that? A CURE FOR CANCER.
But now they are gone.
No cure for you!

At 10/11/06 11:45 PM, Washu-chan wrote: It looks like wade is picking off the stars one by one. It is only a matter of time before all the stars are deleted off of NG at this rate if you ask me.

I fucking hate the stars, with a passion.

Wade supports my oppinion. Said it in paltalk, and he's like. FUCK YES! I should just terminate them all!

*Waits idley with pointer on block button on inbox.*

BRIIIINNNGG THE SPAMMMM ONNNNN, BIIITTTCHHEEESSSS!!!

At 10/12/06 03:16 PM, bigexplosions wrote:

At 10/12/06 03:06 PM, WadeFulp wrote: ARE YOU ON FUCKING CRACK!?!?!?

Hahahahahahahaha.

Lol! Can I use this?

I find I might be the odd man out in that, recently, I don't hate the stars/glocks/clocks/locks/uzis/whatever, I just find them to be an annoying part of the NG puzzle. I don't hate them, I just don't understand their flawed logic.

At 10/12/06 03:34 PM, WadeFulp wrote: How about we terminate their accounts instead instead of punishing everyone else?

Yes, do this.

Also, be sure to reveal who they are after they get TERMINATED. :D

Alright, Wade. So you're saying a good 50 out of 500,000 like the submission truly, and vote 5 on the submission, whether they liked the effort put into the intro, the humor, or characters should be deleted because they voted on something the majority doesn't like?

I imagine a lot of users are 11 year old anime faggots who wouldn't know good humor if it bitch slapped them across the face.

I understand that most of these are considered spam by most people and I understand you don't enjoy these submissions Wade, but this is perfectly legal in the portal's eyes. There is no rule that says you cannot have a good intro in the begining of the movie to show off what you can really do.

A submission of mine which was a TooF parody didn't need too much help. I only voted 5 once, and asked no one else to vote five. It passed with a good enough score. I even threatened to ote 5 if a person voted 0 on it, but I didn't, I just fibbed, but the score went up anyway, wthout my help.

Mabye instead of lashing out at users, you can draw more attention to under judgement submissions by making a front page post, or making a sign in the portal saying, " THESE SUBMISSIONS NEED YOUR VOTE " so it would be at a better audience, or a button that says, " View a Random Under Judgement entry!"

Something like that. Put the swastika down, Wade, there are ways to handle this.

how about you don't delete anything?

At 10/12/06 04:58 PM, Adam wrote:

At 10/12/06 04:56 PM, Ying-yong wrote: There is no rule that says you cannot have a good intro in the begining of the movie to show off what you can really do.
s.

"-If your submission has a long and fancy introduction, followed by crap, we will probably delete it."

Ahh, I see now. Guess that's what happens when you submit only one movie a month.

At 10/12/06 04:51 PM, ggk wrote:

At 10/12/06 03:34 PM, WadeFulp wrote: How about we terminate their accounts instead instead of punishing everyone else?

Yes, do this.

Also, be sure to reveal who they are after they get TERMINATED. :D

Smart. "Hey, lets make martyrs out of them and cause a revolution."

There are fans of the Star Syndicate you know. Just the ones that have been deleted thus far like Chrome-, SevenStar and Penisstar have all become martyrs. One thing the Orwellian Thought Police had right was that to keep people from revolting, you don't make a martyr out of someone... you convert them.

While wade still looks at this topic, I figure i'll ask why he didn't make it harder to get diety, I mean it's pretty damn easy to get diety atm, but more then half the people who will get diety will just quit flagging just because he/she has the diety whistle, and likes how it looks in her profile and will say there is no need to flag anymore, I think you should make it tougher to get diety, but not as tough as it was before you implemented the new whistle system, that way you will have more people who flag longer. But I know what you're thinking, what are they gonna do when they reach diety then? Dunno I guess they will stop flaggin, I think only the true people who will keep flagigng are the ones who visit the abusive review thread almost every day to flag, BEFORE you inplemented the whistle system, just because they did it and loved doing it.

woop woop!!! go wade!!! kick der paki asses!!!!!!!

this is what i do not understand:

why does Adolf hitler around the world continue to exist while BPB does not?

i never paid attention to either of these series because I knew what they contained: not that much.

but if one certain user is removed for "abuse", how come another still remains? I say abuse in quotes because I'm sure it was never the intention of either of these people to up their own blam points by submitting their own movies considering there are exponentially more by other people that are submitted every few minutes. the creators of Adolf hitler around the world have noticeably high blam ranks as it is anyway, why would they need to up their count by just one?

as for the BPB, I feel that its existence was created out of boredom. the BPB wanted to make an odd spinoff of something like dailytoons except in a very twisted manner. their desires could not have been for stats, considering bobbleheaddick was not a "main" account, but simply out of reaction. a desire to generate a negative buzz amongst the unlucky few who would come across the BPB movies similar to the adolf hitler around the world submissions except a lot more intentional.

i'm not saying that BPB's deletion is the end of all days because i mean, it was just a side project, right? but the adolf hitler series has created much more negative influence than the BPBs and yet it is still around. is it due to the length of the introduction? the people involved? i am not sure.

At 10/12/06 05:36 PM, Revolver0celot wrote: why does Adolf hitler around the world continue to exist while BPB does not?

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

wade come on, if you're going to be an asshole for no reason, at least be consistent

I highly doubt it's 00.1% users enjoying spam entries. LOTS, and LOTS of users would be super pissed if this were to happen.
Including me, of course.

At 10/12/06 05:49 PM, Orangebeef wrote: I highly doubt it's 00.1% users enjoying spam entries. LOTS, and LOTS of users would be super pissed if this were to happen.
Including me, of course.

yeah i agree with you.

At 10/12/06 05:48 PM, F00D wrote:

At 10/12/06 05:36 PM, Revolver0celot wrote: why does Adolf hitler around the world continue to exist while BPB does not?

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

wade come on, if you're going to be an asshole for no reason, at least be consistent

unlike the BPB the intro wasn't super long for starts and also as wade did say he found the ATWI80D series funny to some point. plus the series was never the same place or costumes only the same music.

At 10/12/06 05:48 PM, F00D wrote:

At 10/12/06 05:36 PM, Revolver0celot wrote: why does Adolf hitler around the world continue to exist while BPB does not?

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

wade come on, if you're going to be an asshole for no reason, at least be consistent

listen to da f0dc

At 10/12/06 03:34 PM, WadeFulp wrote: So 0.01% of our daily audience enjoys these entries. Yet, we should change our system because these 0.01%? How about we terminate their accounts instead instead of punishing everyone else?

yes... yes! YES!!!!! GO WADE KILL THEM ALL!!! xD

At 10/12/06 05:49 PM, Orangebeef wrote: I highly doubt it's 00.1% users enjoying spam entries. LOTS, and LOTS of users would be super pissed if this were to happen.
Including me, of course.

You highly doubt? What proof do you have to show other wise? Also it's probably not even 0.1% of our audience that enjoys spam. Keep in mind 500,000 is a daiy stat, in a month we have millions of visitors. So that makes the percent of people who like spam even lower.

Also they don't like spam becasue they think it's good, they like it because they think it's funny to fuck with Newgrounds. It's like laughing while you egg someone's house. It's funny to some people, but you can be arrested for it. Or someone might laugh at someone egging someone's house "Haha, look! He's egging that house! I love it!" That still doesn't make it right, and it doesn't get the person throwing eggs off the hook because other people think he should be allowed to do it.

At 10/12/06 06:13 PM, WadeFulp wrote: Also they don't like spam becasue they think it's good, they like it because they think it's funny to fuck with Newgrounds. It's like laughing while you egg someone's house. It's funny to some people, but you can be arrested for it. Or someone might laugh at someone egging someone's house "Haha, look! He's egging that house! I love it!" That still doesn't make it right, and it doesn't get the person throwing eggs off the hook because other people think he should be allowed to do it.

unstopable OWNAGE!
one more noob have invalid arguments to post???
come on, post while wade is reading this.

At 10/12/06 06:22 PM, GoldenHammer wrote: unstopable OWNAGE!
one more noob have invalid arguments to post???
come on, post while wade is reading this.

Haha, yeah, I'm the first to admit I don't always agree with Wade, but he's RIGHT on the money with this one.

At 10/12/06 06:13 PM, WadeFulp wrote: they like it because they think it's funny to fuck with Newgrounds.

Um, I don't think they like because of that, I think they like it because it's so stupid, it gives them some laughs.

At 10/12/06 06:27 PM, Patrick-Star wrote:

At 10/12/06 06:13 PM, WadeFulp wrote: they like it because they think it's funny to fuck with Newgrounds.

Um, I don't think they like because of that, I think they like it because it's so stupid, it gives them some laughs.

lol, that's pretty much what he's saying... They basically feel like rebels or like they've beaten the portal. They can get any of their spam through the portal with ease... That's fucking with Newgrounds.

At 10/12/06 06:28 PM, DFox wrote:

lol, that's pretty much what he's saying... They basically feel like rebels or like they've beaten the portal. They can get any of their spam through the portal with ease... That's fucking with Newgrounds.

I guess so. I liked the other Badger and Zekey Collabs though, like Truth About Masterbation, which i don't call malicious spam content.

Wade check your inbox.

At 10/12/06 06:13 PM, WadeFulp wrote: Also they don't like spam becasue they think it's good, they like it because they think it's funny to fuck with Newgrounds.

How are you so sure of this, Wade?

I just voted 5 on an uzi union flash because I liked the drawings, the humor, the overall feel of the flash, the shading, and the music. I now risk my points being taken away because I enjoyed something the majority doesn't like.

'Twas something that needed to burn in hell anyway. I actualy sat thru a couple of them, total crap.