At 10/12/06 01:14 AM, DFox wrote:

At 10/12/06 01:09 AM, King wrote: Hobo is right.

"ZoMG WAID MAK ME A MOD plz lol!"

These arn't the people you want to be modding.

You can say that again.

As an active Newgrounds user, I don't want these children moderating my reviews.

Yeah because this they were people who make decent reviews would be banned and the NG system would be topsy tervey.

At 10/12/06 01:11 AM, zach9311 wrote:

These arn't the people you want to be modding.

I guess hoboporn is right!

But i would like to be Mod one day!

mmm Ok

I Hope Wade Reads this has a sense of humor comes back in here and loudly annoinces in the rudest way possible that none of you will ever be mods lol

I Hope Wade Reads this has a sense of humor comes back in here and loudly annoinces in the rudest way possible that none of you will ever be mods lol

STFU nOOb 1m rap1ng y0r m0m

Do you want an asshole who will right this on your ban message after he bans you because you said something actually Decent like" sure um I'm no Flash artist but that
could use a decent new intro! and then vote 6,5,8,2,7,6

At 10/12/06 12:29 AM, WadeFulp wrote: If the people who are abusing their power can't understand this, then we're going to have to take away their power. If I took away the points of the main players in this game, these entries would start being blammed.

Are you talking about only removing their voting power or their experience points and/or B/P points?

Or couldn't you just make it so that a majority vote overides voting power?

At 10/12/06 01:21 AM, zach9311 wrote:

I Hope Wade Reads this has a sense of humor comes back in here and loudly annoinces in the rudest way possible that none of you will ever be mods lol

STFU nOOb 1m rap1ng y0r m0m

Shesh i guess some people cant take a Joke, Oh Btw Feel Free to rape my mom shes a compleate bitch to me and i no longer live with her so i dont give 2 shits

I wonder what will go next do to this it might be the SPS series since it is simaliar to the BPB thing except the intro has better music.

At 10/12/06 03:20 AM, ApeWithAMallet wrote: hey bud how about you delete them hitler: atwi80d shits

WTF is that!

Hope Wade brings down the hammer on these spammers

to be honest i am not suprised that they were deleted. i was suprised they even made it through to portal.

At 10/12/06 03:28 AM, 36Holla wrote: Hope Wade brings down the hammer on these spammers

the GoldenHammer :P

At 10/12/06 04:15 AM, rammstein-321-kitten wrote: Wade, you're the admin, so you can do whatever you want... but If I were you I would think of the consequences of making the portal a ghost town. I think you are going overboard, and you should relax a bit..
I agree with Kes, and not just because he's our leader, but because he is right.

only in your dreams, if someone will leave NG or stop submiting will be the spammers. Wade's actions will not damage good artists. He is not only an allmighty-admin, he knows what he is doing.

At 10/12/06 12:23 AM, WadeFulp wrote:

At 10/12/06 12:14 AM, bigexplosions wrote: And also, can you REALLY see what people voted on these flashes? If you can, can you show us at least a small picture so I can fully believe it?

User votes by bigexplosions (3680 experience points)

Ok, NOW I believe you. :O

I feel so violated. :'(

At 10/12/06 12:00 AM, WadeFulp wrote: Also it's obvious to us what these groups are doing. They are submitting all this crap to get more points. Be it protection points, generating abusive reviews to flag, etc. I can see every user who votes and what they vote. I see it's always the same users voting 5 on this crap, whlie the MAJORITY of the users are voting 0. It's probably around 18-20 users voting 5, some maybe users just being fooled by the long fancy intros, which the BPB took to far. Then the other 200 users are giving 0's, 1's, and 2's. The only reason they aren't being blammed is because the users voting 5 have like 3,000-5,000 experience or more, and a lot of blam and protection points. So they are over powering the masses. It's like if you gave bigger guns to the police and then they turned on the town they are supposed to be protecting. That's what they people are doing and I know damn well who they are. It's up to them if they want to knock it off, because wouldn't it be stupid to abuse the site to get more points only to have them all taken away?

Woah woah woah, Wade you're totally off here.

People do this because they like to piss off other people. Reading reviews saying "LOL YOU SUCK BLAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" is hilarious on our sake. It has nothing to do with all the fancy stuff NG is pumped up with. See, now... Newgrounds users 5 these flashes to get the protection points, not thinking that they're the ones actually letting the movies pass. See, i'm not afraid to admit i'm one of the people having fun with stuff like this, mainly because it ain't against the rules.

Don't worry, Wade. These people aren't out to ruin Newgrounds, just piss off the majority of NG.

I guess it leaves the annoying flashes of the [KK] crew now those are annoying.

Lol, I guess no more protect points.
R.I.P.

At 10/12/06 11:45 AM, PT wrote: These people aren't out to ruin Newgrounds, just piss off the majority of NG.

So they aren't out to ruin Newgrounds, they are just out to ruin Newgrounds?

At 10/12/06 11:59 AM, WadeFulp wrote:

At 10/12/06 11:45 AM, PT wrote: These people aren't out to ruin Newgrounds, just piss off the majority of NG.

So they aren't out to ruin Newgrounds, they are just out to ruin Newgrounds?

I think what he's saying is that their intentions aren't to ruin Newgrounds, just piss off the users.

At 10/12/06 11:59 AM, WadeFulp wrote:

At 10/12/06 11:45 AM, PT wrote: These people aren't out to ruin Newgrounds, just piss off the majority of NG.

So they aren't out to ruin Newgrounds, they are just out to ruin Newgrounds?

Hey Wade how about those [KK] movies those are preety annoying.

thank god for that
finally some of the spam clogging up the portal got deleted

At 10/12/06 11:59 AM, WadeFulp wrote:

At 10/12/06 11:45 AM, PT wrote: These people aren't out to ruin Newgrounds, just piss off the majority of NG.

So they aren't out to ruin Newgrounds, they are just out to ruin Newgrounds?

No, this ain't what i'm saying.

They aren't out to ruin Newgrounds. If they were, why wouldn't they have tried to hack the database or something? No, you can't ruin Newgrounds by submitting spam flash.

If you really want to know how to get rid of them, tell all Newgrounds users to just ignore these movies, not to review, not to 0, just plain ignore them. They will go away.

There is only one flaw in this. It will never happend. Even if you PM'd all the users on NG, people would still leave angry (Or in this case, funny as hell) reviews. An easier way to do this, is to remove the review system and the awards. But, this will also leave NG stoned dry. You can't tell me you want a website with 13-year old kids who likes Naruto and speks lyek dis.

Also, deleting them or IP banning them wouldn't stop the spam from coming in. You'd have to permaban the half of newgrounds. If you do this you would end up with the 13 year olds who likes Naruto we just spoke off.

Think about it. Close your eyes and picture a Newgrounds without spam movies. Would it be a good portal? Or a bad, slow, boring one? Ask yourself that questions.

At 10/12/06 11:56 AM, Black-Flame wrote: Lol, I guess no more protect points.
R.I.P.

Damnit, I didnt know how these flashes were passing so I thought "why blam it when I know it'll pass".
I've read the thread and now regret that.

At 10/12/06 12:12 PM, PT wrote: Also, deleting them or IP banning them wouldn't stop the spam from coming in. You'd have to permaban the half of newgrounds. If you do this you would end up with the 13 year olds who likes Naruto we just spoke off.

You're an idiot. These Flash entries are being made by, and being voted through the portal by, 20-30 people. We average 500,000 unique visitors to Newgrounds everyday.

At 10/12/06 12:17 PM, Black-Flame wrote: Damnit, I didnt know how these flashes were passing so I thought "why blam it when I know it'll pass".
I've read the thread and now regret that.

This is the problem. To many users are voting based on if they think it will pass or not, istead of giving it an honest vote, a vote the user thinks the movie REALLY deserved. If everyone did this, they would get their points.

At 10/12/06 12:20 PM, WadeFulp wrote:

At 10/12/06 12:12 PM, PT wrote: Also, deleting them or IP banning them wouldn't stop the spam from coming in. You'd have to permaban the half of newgrounds. If you do this you would end up with the 13 year olds who likes Naruto we just spoke off.

You're an idiot. These Flash entries are being made by, and being voted through the portal by, 20-30 people. We average 500,000 unique visitors to Newgrounds everyday.

More like 125,000 people enjoys this stuff. But that's not what we're arguing about.

Just look at the people who makes these movies. ZekeySpaceyLizard, BlueHippo, Rtil, all very good artists.

Now i'm beginning to babble, i had a rough night. Now, whatever insults you're gonna reply with, i still think that you should consider my POV and take it to interest. It's all based on the truth,

Also, if it's the intros this is all about, it's not us who makes people vote 5. They do that themselves. They've even seen the intro a 1000 times before, yet they still vote 5. The Uzi Union has like 20 members, and the members are probably not higher levels than 9 or 10.

Wow like you didin't like to get insulted by Admins.

What Wade says about shit passing because of a few people voting 5 for points sounds very true, I've changed my tactics to vote 0 on movies I don't like now no matter what, and I've noticed a few KK and UU flashes being blammed because of this. (Don't like them so much.)

I'm thankful the BPB is gone now, hopefully ZuneClock, who's been doing this Small Penis Syndicate will stop that as well.

hitler around the world in 80 days should be next

Seconded

At 10/12/06 11:45 AM, PT wrote: People do this because they like to piss off other people.

Piss of newgrounds users is piss of NG itself, the users are the soul of NG.

Don't worry, Wade. These people aren't out to ruin Newgrounds, just piss off the majority of NG.

no? lol! fill the portal with drap its not ruin it?

At 10/12/06 12:20 PM, WadeFulp wrote:

You're an idiot. These Flash entries are being made by, and being voted through the portal by, 20-30 people. We average 500,000 unique visitors to Newgrounds everyday.

OWN3D!

At 10/12/06 12:29 PM, PT wrote:

More like 125,000 people enjoys this stuff. But that's not what we're arguing about.

LOL if u say 10,000 ppl like shity spams will be too much

Just look at the people who makes these movies. ZekeySpaceyLizard, BlueHippo, Rtil, all very good artists.

we dont care if they are good artists, they are wasting their talent in a stupid and selfish fun

Also, if it's the intros this is all about, it's not us who makes people vote 5. They do that themselves. They've even seen the intro a 1000 times before, yet they still vote 5. The Uzi Union has like 20 members, and the members are probably not higher levels than 9 or 10.

its the same to give a gun to a thief and say to him: do not use it to steal.

Sorry Wade, but I'm not changing my voting preferences just because you want me to vote something I don't feel. I'm part of the Star Syndicate. I wouldn't be in the Star Syndicate if I didn't enjoy their humor.

I vote 3 ways normally Under Judgment (and this will apply to many):
0 if it's blammable (and I don't find it funny)
2 if it's passable (but I hate it)
5 if I love it, or if it's so stupid it's hilarious (e.g. - Most of Star Syndicate's stuff and even some of Kitty Krew's and other groups).

Once it's out of judgment, I vote honestly (but the "so stupid it's hilarious" part still applies if I see it that way afterwards).

And by the way, I have whistled or 0ed Star Syndicate entries in judgment if they're particularly bad.

I rarely vote 1 or 3 or 4. That's just how the system has evolved. Maybe you should take an approach like Retrogade does and just get rid of the BP system so there's no incentive for people to build up their levels by not voting honestly.

And if it's a MINORITY voting 2 and above for these movies, then that implies that something is wrong with the system itself, not the users of that system. Right now, this system is like giving the politically educated 10 votes each, and the rich 5 votes each, and the poor one vote each. Who's at fault if the elite vote for a bad President because it benefits them while most vote against? I hope you're not apt to blame the elite, because they simply voted how they felt and the system benefitted them.

You don't have to like me, but I expect since you're an adult, you can understand what I'm saying here and be willing to take that point despite the individual posting it.

By the way, you know the funny part? The Star Syndicate exposes the problems in your system. They're actually doing you a service by making you aware so perhaps something can be changed for the better.

At 10/12/06 02:04 PM, naojason wrote: By the way, you know the funny part? The Star Syndicate exposes the problems in your system. They're actually doing you a service by making you aware so perhaps something can be changed for the better.

Here's the thing though, they're the ones who mostly abuse the system and encourage others to do that.

At 10/12/06 02:06 PM, RupeeClock wrote:

At 10/12/06 02:04 PM, naojason wrote: By the way, you know the funny part? The Star Syndicate exposes the problems in your system. They're actually doing you a service by making you aware so perhaps something can be changed for the better.

Here's the thing though, they're the ones who mostly abuse the system and encourage others to do that.

It usually takes more than one individual to abuse a system enough to expose the problem though. Very rarely can one person abuse the system and cause enough impact to warrant attention, although the MsBlaster worm was one of those rare cases.

(Haha, if Microsoft would have taken the guy seriously and patched the security hole when they knew about it, the MsBlaster worm would have been useless).