Maybe the universe is like a recurring number...

The Universe

The universe is in my opinion a different dimension. If you can imagine it I think at any direction of travel you're actually traveling on the surface of a sphere so that eventually you'll wrap around. It's odd to think about but thats what I imagine. Also, I think there is no end to the universe. If we ever managed to go in a straight line rather than following the curve of a circle we'd probably encounter a situation where there was no matter there, but we're still travelling. Similar to the clipboard in flash. It looks like it has an end but when you put an image the the edge of it the area expands and the image seems to fit. This is overly simplified because in this situation the program was created to expand the work area if something hit the edge but the idea is similar.

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Universe

Here's an interesting look at dimensional thinking.

At 3/8/08 10:31 AM, Cheektoghetto wrote: Universe

Here's an interesting look at dimensional thinking.

Here's the video link.

At 3/8/08 10:32 AM, Cheektoghetto wrote: Here's the video link.

A friend of mine showed me that video. Although I do believe that most of it's true, there are some bits from dimensions 7+ or so which are possibly debatable. It's a really cool thing to watch though, even if you need to pause 11 or 12 times to figure out what the hell he's talking about.

The universe's dimensions are how far out the matter goes. If you go farther than that, then the matter (you) goes out farther and it expands (it's expanding anyway).

Even if it is a hypersphere, I doubt you'll wrap around because if you go far enough the hypersphere will just keep getting bigger and bigger.

Wormholes are another story...

At 3/8/08 11:32 AM, Glaiel-Gamer wrote: The universe's dimensions are how far out the matter goes. If you go farther than that, then the matter (you) goes out farther and it expands (it's expanding anyway).

Even if it is a hypersphere, I doubt you'll wrap around because if you go far enough the hypersphere will just keep getting bigger and bigger.

Wormholes are another story...

I think if you could look at a 2d wormhole it'd probably look like an 8, where the wormhole is where the two openings connect and the loops of the eight are the circle you would have to otherwise travel to get to either point.

Well the earth probobly isn't in the center of the universe. Also if you believe that it is or that there is a center to the universethen that means you have to believe that the universe has an end and that there are other universes becouse if the universe is endless it has no center.
Also if you beleave that the universe is endless then you must beleive in aliens because there is no way that there isn't another planet close enogh to some sun and has good conditions for life forms
other universe
if there is another universe do you believe that it is like this crap of every descion makes a new universe or every universe bhas nothing to do with the others

i will repost this spellcheked from my computer later today...

I don't get why scientists are so desperate to explore space etc when we haven't even explored all of our own planet.

At 3/8/08 02:14 PM, UnknownFury wrote: I don't get why scientists are so desperate to explore space etc when we haven't even explored all of our own planet.

That's kind of true and false I guess. You can see it as we've studied so deeply into things like our cells, even down past sub-atomic particles, but we haven't gotten amazingly far with diseases to help us survive. Also, we're absolutely NOWHERE in studying about the ocean. I mean we've sent a few sub-type things down nearer to the ocean's bottom, but we haven't done so well about it. One other thing you also have to remember is that there are some really great power sources that have been found in space such as on the moon, and America hasn't done much about it, but China and Russia have started.

At 3/8/08 02:14 PM, UnknownFury wrote: I don't get why scientists are so desperate to explore space etc

Two words: Space Race. In addition, human curiosity extends further than our oceans.

Turning Off Gamers
Would this make you a bit wary if you saw it while playing a game? I have to store extra data for a game I'm working on, but I am worried people are going to flip when they see this.

At 3/8/08 02:19 PM, El-Presidente wrote:

At 3/8/08 02:14 PM, UnknownFury wrote: I don't get why scientists are so desperate to explore space etc when we haven't even explored all of our own planet.

That's kind of true and false I guess. You can see it as we've studied so deeply into things like our cells, even down past sub-atomic particles, but we haven't gotten amazingly far with diseases to help us survive. Also, we're absolutely NOWHERE in studying about the ocean. I mean we've sent a few sub-type things down nearer to the ocean's bottom, but we haven't done so well about it. One other thing you also have to remember is that there are some really great power sources that have been found in space such as on the moon, and America hasn't done much about it, but China and Russia have started.

The ocean was really what I was refering to here. You never know, there could be 'something' down there that could revolutionise the whole world. An alternative powersource which doesn't give off as much pollution, if any? We really don't know. Yes, we are a tiny spec in a vast universe and we should learn more about what is around us and how it all works but that doesn't mean we shouldn't spend time learning more about our own 'spec'.

At 3/8/08 02:23 PM, jmtb02 wrote: Turning Off Gamers
Would this make you a bit wary if you saw it while playing a game? I have to store extra data for a game I'm working on, but I am worried people are going to flip when they see this.

You're asking the wrong people by bringing this to developers who actually know about stuff like that :P Your average user might be put off - I'd give a more personal text-warning in the game before the box pops up, e.g:

This game may require extra storage space for data. If your player gives you any options to this effect, please click 'Allow' so that it can function correctly.

At 3/8/08 02:23 PM, jmtb02 wrote:

At 3/8/08 02:14 PM, UnknownFury wrote: I don't get why scientists are so desperate to explore space etc

Two words: Space Race. In addition, human curiosity extends further than our oceans.

I guess so. I understand about the whole space race etc but I feel now is the time to start exploring the oceans before we heat them up and kill stuff that we are let to discover. I guess we are all curious about what is 'out there' but, personally, I am also currious about what is in the depths of the oceans, like in my previous post. (sorry to double post)

Turning Off Gamers

Ordinarily it would. But seeing as it is from jmtb02.com I would trust it, but most wouldn't.

At 3/8/08 03:43 AM, ShortMonkey wrote: We are both ignorant on this subject - how could we know the truth if even great scientists haven't fully proved anything yet either?

just because there are christian sites out there peddling the belief that the earth is the center of our solar system doesnt make it a valid point of view. i can easily refute any statements you might have made.

geocentric solar system
yeah, this is a great theory. except one problem. bodies only orbit other bodies when they are held in its gravitational field. problem being, gravity is a force defined heavily on mass, and as much as i like the thought of the sun orbiting a planet 0.0003% its mass, there is no way that will fly.

no center of universe
the doppler effect, like it or not, relates to light as well as sound. most objects in the universe have an observable red-shift, which suggests that they are all moving away from us. were you to subscribe to the "big bang" concept (which the red-shift phenomenon supports QUITE strongly), this would provide a means of proving, and, some day, finding, the center of the universe.

At 3/8/08 02:27 PM, Paranoia wrote: You're asking the wrong people by bringing this to developers who actually know about stuff like that

Yeah probably, but I am not feeding this to the sharks in General.

The domain in that warning will actually display the domain the swf is hosted on, so if it's on Newgrounds it will display the domain Newgrounds.com.

is AIM down for anyone else today? I can't connect. Anyway, luis & coaly I'm sending you a PM.

At 3/8/08 02:57 PM, Swirling-Venom wrote: If steven hawking hasnt figured it out yet, you guys certainly aren't going to.

We may not know, but we can certainly reckon stuff :P

At 3/8/08 02:57 PM, Swirling-Venom wrote: Here is where the magic happens when Im doing flash:

Your room is way cleaner than I assumed it to be, heh.

Universe

This is an ongoing discussion which could last forever. I mean, there really isn't a true way to confirm these theories and we don't really know how to prove most of them. Personally, reality is already complicated enough as we currently perceive it.

At 3/8/08 03:18 PM, Masterswordman wrote: Universe

This is an ongoing discussion which could last forever. I mean, there really isn't a true way to confirm these theories and we don't really know how to prove most of them. Personally, reality is already complicated enough as we currently perceive it.

As I said on a previous page - reality is a theory.

At 3/8/08 03:18 PM, Masterswordman wrote: I mean, there really isn't a true way to confirm these theories and we don't really know how to prove most of them.

i cant make it any more clear that this "we cant prove it" comment i keep hearing is false. we can prove that the sun is the center of our solar system. it is the closest planetary body with such a large mass, and our forward momentum keeps us in orbit of it. we can prove that all of the universe is moving away from a single point in space. we can prove this with the properties of light.

how much clearer can this be?

At 3/8/08 03:25 PM, BritishMoose wrote: Tommy LM is completely lampooning Rtil, right?

Or am I just an idiot?

Both.

Yeah, sprites are retarded, but I think the issue of sprite movies is starting to clear up a bit as of late.

At 3/8/08 03:20 PM, UnknownFury wrote:

At 3/8/08 03:18 PM, Masterswordman wrote: Universe

This is an ongoing discussion which could last forever. I mean, there really isn't a true way to confirm these theories and we don't really know how to prove most of them. Personally, reality is already complicated enough as we currently perceive it.

As I said on a previous page - reality is a theory.

It's annoying how many people don't know the difference between the scientific and colloquial meanings of 'theory' :s

At 3/8/08 03:42 PM, hashbrown wrote: we should start having video game tournaments for the reg lounge. brawl sounds like fun, i dunno maybe a game night or something. we should be closer as a community and maybe the flash forum would be more fun

I liked when we used to play pictionary online, then those without consoles could join in the fun too.

At 3/8/08 03:44 PM, BoMToons wrote: I liked when we used to play pictionary online, then those without consoles could join in the fun too.

You talking about Isketch? I liked that, though it was a bit of an unfair advantage for those with art skills.

At 3/8/08 03:45 PM, Masterswordman wrote:

At 3/8/08 03:44 PM, BoMToons wrote: I liked when we used to play pictionary online, then those without consoles could join in the fun too.

You talking about Isketch? I liked that, though it was a bit of an unfair advantage for those with art skills.

Sounds like good fun :) Lets do it again sometime :D
You don't really need art skils to be good at iSketch. You have to have a creative mind and think how you can display those hard words. As long as you can draw to an extent of people being able to understand it.

At 3/8/08 03:39 PM, Paranoia wrote: It's annoying how many people don't know the difference between the scientific and colloquial meanings of 'theory' :s

My bad (looking at actual definitions). But you get what I mean ;)

At 3/8/08 03:43 AM, ShortMonkey wrote: Coaly, as I seem ignorant to you, you seem ignorant to me. It's not like we're first class scientists here. :/

Come on, I know we aren't scientists but I wish we were both rational human beings at least.

I believe that there is an end to the universe and whether the earth is the center or not, the other planets revolve around earth.

I believe, that's a great way to start of your sentence, you may as well say, "I have no idea if this is true but I think that..."

We are both ignorant on this subject - how could we know the truth if even great scientists haven't fully proved anything yet either?

Ignorance, I wish you knew, is not just lack of knowledge, true ignorance is thinking you know some truth which is in fact not true. Like thinking the planets revolve around the earth...which was disproved hundreds of years ago.

At 3/8/08 02:40 PM, authorblues wrote: i can easily refute any statements you might have made.

love ya ;]

At 3/8/08 03:56 PM, mexifry895 wrote: Is it spam flash day? Cause look at the 50 newest submissions. It's all generally the same title. and all of them are crap.

A bunch of people think its funny to submit crap just for the release of Brawl. They've done stuff like this a couple times before.

At 3/8/08 03:48 PM, UnknownFury wrote:

At 3/8/08 03:39 PM, Paranoia wrote: It's annoying how many people don't know the difference between the scientific and colloquial meanings of 'theory' :s

My bad (looking at actual definitions). But you get what I mean ;)

Yeah, I was making more of a general statement than one directed at you :) Seriously - anyone who doesn't know what the scientific definition of a 'theory' is should look it up. Here's what Wiki has to say:

In science, a theory is a mathematical or logical explanation, or a testable model of the manner of interaction of a set of natural phenomena, capable of predicting future occurrences or observations of the same kind, and capable of being tested through experiment or otherwise falsified through empirical observation. It follows from this that for scientists "theory" and "fact" do not necessarily stand in opposition. For example, it is a fact that an apple dropped on earth has been observed to fall towards the centre of the planet, and the theories commonly used to describe and explain this behaviour are Newton's theory of universal gravitation (see also gravitation), and the theory of general relativity.
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"Some scientific explanations are so well established that no new evidence is likely to alter them. The explanation becomes a scientific theory. In everyday language a theory means a hunch or speculation. Not so in science. In science, the word theory refers to a comprehensive explanation of an important feature of nature that is supported by many facts gathered over time. Theories also allow scientists to make predictions about as yet unobserved phenomena."

It's just really irritating - the nature of good science is such that it can be easily exploited by people who have a personal bias and little actual understanding.