At 3/21/17 12:10 PM, PrettyMuchBryce wrote: Maybe some of you would be open to helping me test in a couple of months?

I've been flaky on the forum for a while but I'll check back here and there in case you need testers.

Not sure who here is from my period around - but I was surprised at how accurate and capturing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFS7APAApBA captures that Newgrounds.

To everyone who remembers me from that period - you are awesome, thanks for making that period of my life so much better for me. I wish you all the best.

At 3/31/17 06:09 PM, Inglor wrote:

To everyone who remembers me from that period - you are awesome, thanks for making that period of my life so much better for me. I wish you all the best.

<3

boop boop boop.

At 4/1/17 09:31 AM, dELtaluca wrote: boop boop boop.

would be cool to hear from all the regs from the original reg lounge, im curious how many people are retired and with 5 grandkids etc

Got married, moving to Japan, working in games on the technical side as ever.

At 4/1/17 09:48 AM, Luis wrote:

At 4/1/17 09:31 AM, dELtaluca wrote: boop boop boop.

would be cool to hear from all the regs from the original reg lounge, im curious how many people are retired and with 5 grandkids etc

get a life

At 4/1/17 09:58 AM, dELtaluca wrote: Got married, moving to Japan, working in games on the technical side as ever.

At 3/31/17 06:09 PM, Inglor wrote: Not sure who here is from my period around - but I was surprised at how accurate and capturing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFS7APAApBA captures that Newgrounds.

To everyone who remembers me from that period - you are awesome, thanks for making that period of my life so much better for me. I wish you all the best.

By the way I only come on here once in a blue moon, and just by coincidence I checked in just as these two legends posted. Hope you're doing well guys, sorry for my shit posting when I was a kid! :)

Whoa. This all brings me back to years ago when I was a total amateur thinking I was hot shit and knew everything.
.. Wait, nothing's changed.

In all seriousness, learning from the old (and current!) regs and just BSing around on here was and is always great.

At 4/1/17 10:07 AM, Rustygames wrote:

At 4/1/17 09:58 AM, dELtaluca wrote: At 3/31/17 06:09 PM, Inglor wrote:

Hope you're doing well guys, sorry for my shit posting when I was a kid! :)
At 4/1/17 01:33 PM, egg82 wrote: BSing around on here was and is always great.

Dude, all you guys rock, wouldn't trade those years for anything

This is great.

I'll have free time within a week when I finish my Masters presentation. Then super free time in a month after my thesis is due.

BREAKING: Attackers can gain sensitive information by reading computer screens.

At 3/27/17 09:25 PM, egg82 wrote: Even has Python for Diki :)

Well that's neat. Not sure if I would ever need it, though—I've always gotten by just fine with the official docs. But I could see it being very useful for someone new to the language.

Yeah, I'm responding to a rather old post; I wasn't tagged. Come at me, bro.

At 4/4/17 08:10 PM, Diki wrote: Well that's neat. Not sure if I would ever need it, though—I've always gotten by just fine with the official docs. But I could see it being very useful for someone new to the language.

It's not really for the base language, per se. It's usefulness comes from the fact that it includes thrid-party libraries, so you can see how they work even if they have poor to no documentation. Seriously, every language needs this website.

Yeah, I'm responding to a rather old post; I wasn't tagged. Come at me, bro.

Whoops! Forgot the @.

At 4/4/17 08:59 PM, egg82 wrote:

At 4/4/17 08:10 PM, Diki wrote: Well that's neat. Not sure if I would ever need it, though—I've always gotten by just fine with the official docs. But I could see it being very useful for someone new to the language.

It's not really for the base language, per se. It's usefulness comes from the fact that it includes thrid-party libraries, so you can see how they work even if they have poor to no documentation. Seriously, every language needs this website.

That's pretty good, then. Even has lots of info on Flask, my favourite web framework for Python. (Django is damned good, but I've never needed such an absolute beast of a framework for what I've done with Python.)

I'll bookmark it and keep an eye on it when doing work with third-party stuff.

Ho. Ly. Shit.

I mean.. I figured these guys were making bank, but oh my christ on a fucking bike..

The temptation to the dark side is real, guys o.o

Edit: I know @3D-Xelu and @OmarShehata can probably weigh in with more accurate summaries of what's happening. Hopefully the tags worked, I haven't seen them in a minute.

At 4/5/17 12:18 AM, egg82 wrote: Ho. Ly. Shit.

I mean.. I figured these guys were making bank, but oh my christ on a fucking bike..

The temptation to the dark side is real, guys o.o

@TheEnkian found our new business model

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did anyone else suddenly lose the ability to scroll the bbs via mouse wheel? other sites work for me, even NG front page works.

At 4/7/17 03:19 PM, GeoKureli wrote: did anyone else suddenly lose the ability to scroll the bbs via mouse wheel? other sites work for me, even NG front page works.

Weird, what browser / version / OS are you on?

At 4/7/17 03:43 PM, TomFulp wrote: Weird, what browser / version / OS are you on?

Chome PC Version 57.0.2987.133

I can scroll with the arrow keys and space, still.

Weird, it suddenly came back about 3 minutes after I posted this. I have an old tab open and that one still doesn't scroll.
I can keep the tab open if you want the new vs old source diff

At 4/7/17 04:59 PM, GeoKureli wrote: I can keep the tab open if you want the new vs old source diff

That wouldn't really work; Chrome reloads the page when you view source.

That's a pretty bizarre bug, though.

At 4/5/17 12:18 AM, egg82 wrote: Ho. Ly. Shit.

I mean.. I figured these guys were making bank, but oh my christ on a fucking bike..

Strange timing, last week I found out about this, although these guys seem like Team Ico compared to your video

Asset flippers suck, obviously, and Steam would be crazy to dedicate resources to stopping what would ultimately cut their own revenue.

That being said, asset bundles also suck, and they really don't have much value other than asset flipping, or a student project, or a generic looking game.

The real problem I have with this is the consumers, buying generic-ass games (and generic ass-games) with no interesting gameplay, giving them good enough reviews for the guy to stay afloat.

At 4/5/17 12:18 AM, egg82 wrote: Ho. Ly. Shit.

I mean.. I figured these guys were making bank, but oh my christ on a fucking bike..

The temptation to the dark side is real, guys o.o

Oh boy using steamspy to estimate revenue, and he gets that this piece of shit (Space Journey) earned over 300k?

"Lets take the low end of the sale price which is going to be 8$" steamspy's graph shows the sale price as 4$,

Secondly on steam the game has 13 "bought on steam" reviews compared to 70 "other" (steam key) reviews, which indicates that pretty much 85% of people got it for free

you can multiply all this shit together (and steams cut), being generous to them, and end up with 18-20k in profit there. which still doesnt take into consideration refunds (which would be high for a game like this), or the fact that that "85% got it for free estimation" is not terribly accurate, or the fact that purchases from countries like russia or brazil are like 30% of what the US price indicates

Trading cards are not significant enough extra revenue to include in those estimations, Closure's only earned a few hundred total from those (and we got like 400k owners according to steamspy [humble bundle woo!])

13 reviews is indicative of a game that sold less than 1000 copies, not the 40k steamspy is showing.

Steamspy is accurate for number of owners. Anything else from that number is barely more than a guess

Asset flips are dumb but these guys aren't "making bank" off of it, theres a reason these scams only come out of countries with really low cost of living like eastern europe / russia.

At 4/8/17 02:42 AM, Glaiel-Gamer wrote: Oh boy using steamspy to estimate revenue, and he gets that this piece of shit (Space Journey) earned over 300k?

From what I've heard, Steamspy isn't usually off by much. Might be different for people playing the "trading card bot" game, though.

"Lets take the low end of the sale price which is going to be 8$" steamspy's graph shows the sale price as 4$,

Asset flips are dumb but these guys aren't "making bank" off of it, theres a reason these scams only come out of countries with really low cost of living like eastern europe / russia.

I'm hoping you're right. It does put a damper on things, thinking someone with zero talent can make a lot more money than someone with skill and drive.

I don't want to post in the Scirra Construct thread, but here is what I wanted to say there:

Lol

At 4/8/17 02:42 AM, Glaiel-Gamer wrote: humble bundle woo!

I did a tally, and 50% of my steam library is from humble bundle, and 10% of my money towards steam games went to humble bundle. There's over 2 dozen HB games I gave to friends because I already own them or don't want them, and I usually pay well over twice the HB minimum, for charity's sake. My entire steam library vs total spent means my games cost $6 on average and it could go down to $4 if I were less charitable

I'm honestly wondering if Humble Bundle is doing more harm to the game industry than good. I have a back log of games that I want to play but couldn't burn through in a year if I tried. I think I'm going to be in a perpetual HB hangover until the next big bundle.

What's your experience with Humble bundle, did it seem like it helped the game, or rather did the game help the charity cause?

At 4/8/17 07:19 PM, MSGhero wrote: Lol

Yup

At 4/8/17 12:11 PM, egg82 wrote:

At 4/8/17 02:42 AM, Glaiel-Gamer wrote: Oh boy using steamspy to estimate revenue, and he gets that this piece of shit (Space Journey) earned over 300k?

From what I've heard, Steamspy isn't usually off by much. Might be different for people playing the "trading card bot" game, though.

Steamspy is accurate for OWNERS. Its horribly inaccurate to try and figure out revenue from number of owners. Doing it the naive way for Closure (http://steamspy.com/app/72000) is off by a factor of 20 for instance

At 4/8/17 08:06 PM, GeoKureli wrote: What's your experience with Humble bundle, did it seem like it helped the game, or rather did the game help the charity cause?

none of the devs in humbe bundle care about the charity aspect of it. Its only like 10-15% of the sales go there (and humble bundle pays it so its not like the devs get to write it off on taxes or anything). These days its only good for games that didnt sell well, theres definitely some long term negatives for going in a humble bundle so it really depends if you think the flat money you get from that outweighs it hurting sales performance in the future

At 4/8/17 08:36 PM, Glaiel-Gamer wrote: Steamspy is accurate for OWNERS. Its horribly inaccurate to try and figure out revenue from number of owners. Doing it the naive way for Closure (http://steamspy.com/app/72000) is off by a factor of 20 for instance

The more you know!

At 4/9/17 03:56 AM, Glaiel-Gamer wrote: none of the devs in humbe bundle care about the charity aspect of it. Its only like 10-15% of the sales go there (and humble bundle pays it so its not like the devs get to write it off on taxes or anything). These days its only good for games that didnt sell well, theres definitely some long term negatives for going in a humble bundle so it really depends if you think the flat money you get from that outweighs it hurting sales performance in the future

So how would that work from a business perspective?

Let's say you have a game that you just released and HB wants to include it. Would it be better to say no for now and hope they come around again later? Will they?
Or how about a game that's older but is still selling a lot of copies? Same thing as above? How many times will they ask?
Or is it just best to hope they come around when it's starting to lose sales or you've all-but-forgotten about it?

Does HB renew sales from Steam directly and "refresh" the game, or is it only what HB gets?