At 1/15/11 09:00 PM, zrb wrote:

At 1/15/11 08:40 PM, PSILeo wrote: Download my own personal personalized and cooler preloader. :D

Don't start posting that everywhere, a thread for that is enough :P

Mind showing it to me? I'm still new here. ._.

At 1/15/11 09:39 PM, zrb wrote:

At 1/15/11 09:35 PM, PSILeo wrote: Mind showing it to me? I'm still new here. ._.

The thread you created lol ?

Riiiiiiiiight, well sorrrry for not being knowledgeable. :p
Thanks for the advice anyways, dood.

At 1/15/11 09:39 PM, zrb wrote:

At 1/15/11 09:35 PM, PSILeo wrote: Mind showing it to me? I'm still new here. ._.

The thread you created lol ?

That thread doesn't have anything to do with his preloader.... the preloader doesn't really need a thread though, the loading bar has just been made green.. :|

At 1/17/11 11:37 AM, Innermike wrote: Cool, I just got a job offer from the makers of doodle god iPhone, not bad.

Nice!
How did you manage that? I mean, did you apply or did they seek you out?
Also, going to take it?

At 1/17/11 12:41 PM, Innermike wrote: Awesome stuff

Wow, congrats on moving up in the world!

... so. How's the forum been over the past six months?

Great, another weekend lost to homework. I haven't had time to myself in nearly three weeks, I feel so unaccomplished recently--there's just no time to program anymore...

Also, congrats, Mike.

At 1/17/11 12:41 PM, Innermike wrote: if I had plans of an iPhone version

If you're talking about bandit dash, I told you so. Also congratulations.

This must be the longest lasting thread i've seen in my life. All the regulars still active, or did the trolls finally think of a mutinous plan to take over?

At 1/18/11 09:05 AM, Bufu wrote: This must be the longest lasting thread i've seen in my life. All the regulars still active, or did the trolls finally think of a mutinous plan to take over?

i don't think trolls care enough to take over this thread

At 1/18/11 09:05 AM, Bufu wrote: This must be the longest lasting thread i've seen in my life. All the regulars still active, or did the trolls finally think of a mutinous plan to take over?

You've never seen some of the threads in Clubs & Crews then. Clubs like Metal Hell have well over 2000 pages and are still going strong!

At 1/17/11 12:41 PM, Innermike wrote: I'm a lying bastard

Hey, not to burst your bubble, but everyone pay attention to what I'm going to say.

A good friend of mine (Tyler, Doodlebin) thought up both the idea, and created most of the art for the game. They never really finished it off, and now Mike took his art and idea, finished it and put it on flashgamelicense to sell it. He sold it without giving my friend:
1. Any notice of finishing the game.
2. Any kind of credit in game
3. Any money he got from the sponsorship.

AND NOW HE'S GOT A JOB OFFER FOR THIS TREACHEROUSNESS?

Everyone here needs to realise this nothing but ordinary theft.

At 1/18/11 02:39 PM, tomdeaap wrote: Everyone here needs to realise this nothing but ordinary theft.

I hope that was a joke. But not sure if that is what is meant by

At 1/17/11 12:41 PM, Innermike wrote: Well I sold this unoriginal, badly made game...

Have you got any real proof of this story apart from your word? You could be the one lying about this.

dun dun duuun

At 1/18/11 02:47 PM, funkycaveman wrote:

At 1/18/11 02:39 PM, tomdeaap wrote: Everyone here needs to realise this nothing but ordinary theft.

I hope that was a joke. But not sure if that is what is meant by

At 1/17/11 12:41 PM, Innermike wrote: Well I sold this unoriginal, badly made game...

Have you got any real proof of this story apart from your word? You could be the one lying about this.

As much as I'm hurted and disgraced that my word isn't enough, and a serious case like this gets disregarded by the lack of physical proof. Yes I do:

Proof

As you can see there's more (in the same style) art then is stolen and used in the game. Also some small changed have been made to it.

Can't be bothered to try and understand what's going on, way too tired.

Just popping in. Hi you sexy people.

At 1/18/11 04:44 PM, zrb wrote: I'm gonna go with Mike on this one.
Seems legit.

Meh, people are over reacting for no reason.

Mike should just work with me, I'm as reliable as a condom.

Really none of my business, but if the artist agreed to a commitment and bailed then that's basically akin to stealing in itself. Except you aren't stealing artwork you are stealing the programmers time & effort.

At the same time had the programmer made money off the project without sharing some money then that seems equally unfair. How are they to agree on a fair payment if the artist only completed part of his job.

My thought on the matter is thus. If the project completely broke down then that's it. Dependant on the terms written up in the agreement (and if you didn't write anything up, well shucks...) the artist and programmer are perfectly free to cannibalise and recycle the project.

Having not actually seen the finished product or the works in progress (literally stumbled back here) can't really judge if mike has ripped the guy off completely, or whether it's simply a case of patching up a few holes and releasing the project as it was. But if the artist wants beef, I'm sure he has mike's number, and doesn't need someone protecting him on a forum.

After all. Nothing was really stopping the artist from finishing the game at HIS end either and doing exactly the same thing... okay missing source files maybe but that again is down to mismanagment and not keeping hold of what you're working on.

Trust in these things are good, but always remember your partner may get lazy, may be unprofessional, may vanish, may die, may sue, and may simply just plain drop out. These things, sadly enough, need to be discussed at the setup stage of a collaberation because when real money ends up on the line, or potentially ends up on the line, things get ugly when they break down...

Back home after three months of travelling, can't wait to get back to work!

At 1/18/11 05:49 PM, KaynSlamdyke wrote: Trust in these things are good, but always remember your partner may get lazy, may be unprofessional, may vanish, may die, may sue, and may simply just plain drop out.

How's the art for Edenspace coming along?

At 1/18/11 05:07 PM, Sam wrote: Mike should just work with me, I'm as reliable as a condom.

Condoms work 98% of the time.

At 1/18/11 07:35 PM, funkycaveman wrote:

At 1/18/11 05:07 PM, Sam wrote: Mike should just work with me, I'm as reliable as a condom.

Condoms work 98% of the time.

So... Sam works 98% of the time? Wow, that only leaves 2% of the time for eating and sleeping.

At 1/18/11 07:35 PM, funkycaveman wrote:

At 1/18/11 05:07 PM, Sam wrote: Mike should just work with me, I'm as reliable as a condom.

Condoms work 98% of the time.

Actually it's 98% of couples per year don't get pregnant so you could use them 2000 times in one year and still not let anything unintended happen if you are one of those couples. You must be pretty reliable Sam, will you be my condom?

At 1/19/11 03:00 AM, Starogre wrote: Actually it's 98% of couples per year don't get pregnant so you could use them 2000 times in one year and still not let anything unintended happen if you are one of those couples. You must be pretty reliable Sam, will you be my condom?

oh really? 98% of couples, that's sounds about right. I must be wrong. Why be a couple just to be safe and have a threesome+, not exactly sure of the chances of more than a couple.
Anyway.
Nice one Sam.

At 1/19/11 03:00 AM, Starogre wrote: Sam, will you be my condom?

But with a condom as reliable as that, I can't have your babies =(

At 7/6/09 03:05 PM, Starogre wrote: Doomsday-one please have my babies

And yes, I do intend to hold you to that.

At 1/19/11 05:04 AM, funkycaveman wrote: oh really? 98% of couples, that's sounds about right

It's also worth noting that a large number of condom faults occur because of mistakes made by the couple too. So, if you treat your Sam with respect, he'll almost never let you down.
And if he does: morning after pill.

And I have sprung a discussion about condoms!

I guess I did overreact a little, but shit like this needs to be said out in public. Maybe Mike screws over another 3 artists if I ( or the artist himself for that matter ) wouldn't have done anything. Now I'm guessing he's learned his lesson, and from what I'm hearing everything is sorted out between the 2 of 'm.

I'm by no means trying to imply that Mike is a bad person. What he did was wrong, but his (your if you're Mike) explanation seems legit.

Also I don't think this is a matter to pick sides on, it's just something to learn from. We basically all have agreed that it's better to make clear agreements beforehand. This is the perfect example of what could happen otherwise.

At 1/19/11 10:28 AM, tomdeaap wrote: Also I don't think this is a matter to pick sides on, it's just something to learn from. We basically all have agreed that it's better to make clear agreements beforehand. This is the perfect example of what could happen otherwise.

Condom discussion has also been created thanks to this dilemma. All is well in the world!

At 1/19/11 10:28 AM, tomdeaap wrote: This is the perfect example of what could happen otherwise.

Nothing happened. It's you who started shouting.