At 10/4/08 03:21 PM, patu1 wrote: http://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic/9773 60

I almost made a post there, but couldn't think of anything to say.

toast in that case i think that you are jewish...

Well it's not nice to assume.. :/

and by the way a lot of jews don't belive in god so...

Jewish people do believe in God, but they don't believe in Jesus.

The math teaching methods at school are really bad. I have the reputation in my class of being extremely pro at maths but then I come here on the internet and I'm just a little nooby. i don't know if it makes any sense - but they teach us maths as a subjective concept and not as a logical given. for example i see x^w / y^z so for some reason in my head I divide the powers which makes no sense because

10x10x10x10x10
__________
10x10

is just like removing two tens from the divider and dividee resulting in

10x10x10
____
1

which is 10^3, and not 10^2.5

i blame school

but seriously, subjects like this really interest me. I love mathematical and physical problems and paradoxes, but I feel like I'm given the wrong schools to deal with them at school. maybe one day we could make some really nerdy "maths club" on the forums lol. it's too bad that liking maths automatically makes you a "geek" in society; i find it fascinating.

internet maths
i would really love to do the idea mentioned above with glaiel delta and gust.... well, maybe not gust :p. but i feel like there's so much stuff that i could learn from you guys that would interest me a lot.

judaism
There is a general confusion in the distinction between judaism as a religion, implying the belief in a deity; and judaism as a culture, referring to the people who were originally part of the religion, but doesn't necessarily imply a belief in anything, except a general pride in the culture. If I had to categorise myself in a religion to identify my culture it would be, if not atheism, then judaism. Obviously I feel closer to jews than muslims or whatnot because I'm israeli, which is primarily a jewish country. I, however, do not believe in any part of the torah or a deity in general.

At 10/4/08 03:36 PM, Toast wrote: i would really love to do the idea mentioned above with glaiel delta and gust.... well, maybe not gust :p. but i feel like there's so much stuff that i could learn from you guys that would interest me a lot.

Same here.
And same about what you said earlier,
i'm also great at math at school, but here i'm just a novice.

Someone teach us some difficult maths. :]

i would really love to do the idea mentioned above with glaiel delta and gust.... well, maybe not gust :p. but i feel like there's so much stuff that i could learn from you guys that would interest me a lot.

Learning what delta knows would be like trying to cram an entire dictionary into your head. It just comes to him naturally, lucky fecker. But still, there's a lot we could learn from you guys, as with toast, I'm immensely fascinated in maths. I'm a logical person though, if i see something i don't know, I'll apply what knowledge i have and try and work it out. Anyway, if you ever do a "class", i'm sure half of the coders on the site would attend.

judaism
There is a general confusion in the distinction between judaism as a religion, implying the belief in a deity; and judaism as a culture, referring to the people who were originally part of the religion, but doesn't necessarily imply a belief in anything, except a general pride in the culture.

I have such a boring heritage compared to you. I understand what you're saying, but surely the jewish way of life must involve some religion on some level?

Maths

Again, i agree with toast. I'd rather be tought the logic behind how something works rather than learn that how. If you know why you can manipulate it, change it to work out something else. One good example is trigonometry, we are just taught that cos, tan, sin etc all work, not why. Another is PI, all i've been taught is that it's a fraction, and that's all i apparently need to know. I'd really like to learn some of the actual maths behind these things from school, rather than researching them elsewhere.

This has been a public toast agreement.

At 10/4/08 04:08 PM, Depredation wrote: Learning what delta knows would be like trying to cram an entire dictionary into your head. It just comes to him naturally, lucky fecker. But still, there's a lot we could learn from you guys, as with toast, I'm immensely fascinated in maths. I'm a logical person though, if i see something i don't know, I'll apply what knowledge i have and try and work it out. Anyway, if you ever do a "class", i'm sure half of the coders on the site would attend.

it sounds like one of those ideas that everyone's excited about and then someone makes a thread about it and it dies after 2 pages. I really think we should give it a shot though, or maybe I'm just too lazy to open my eyes to the internet and found that there are already thousands of forums that cover that subject.

judaism

I have such a boring heritage compared to you. I understand what you're saying, but surely the jewish way of life must involve some religion on some level?

Nah I don't do any jewish stuff in my life. Doesn't matter what religion it is, I just think that if there is a certain group of people that generally live together for thousands of years, in the outcome you will probably find more common links between me and another person who is not part of the jewish religion, but of the jewish "culture" (aka a decent of jewish people) than with some chinese guy or whatnot. at least that's the way I see it.

Maths

Again, i agree with toast. I'd rather be tought the logic behind how something works rather than learn that how. If you know why you can manipulate it, change it to work out something else. One good example is trigonometry, we are just taught that cos, tan, sin etc all work, not why. Another is PI, all i've been taught is that it's a fraction, and that's all i apparently need to know. I'd really like to learn some of the actual maths behind these things from school, rather than researching them elsewhere.

I'm interested about both the "how" and the "why. After 3 years of using flash as a coding tool I realise that a lot of time when I learn things, I imagine it would be a lot easier for me if someone just gave me the source code of how it works. Like, in order to understand the universe, I'd rather just have the "42" than a 100 hours boring lesson from some teacher. For example, last year I found myself baffled by all the explanations in written, numerical, and graphical form that the teacher gave us just to explain functions. i just wrote
function func(x,y,n){
return x*y+n;
}
instead of all the things she wrote for x -> 0.5x or x -> 4x+2
on my notebook without bothering to listen for her other explanations, because once you have the source formula for something you generally know everything you need to know about it. I may be wrong about, but whatever.

At 10/4/08 04:08 PM, Depredation wrote: Maths

We all agree with toast :3

Although I know why most formula I need to know work now, since starting AS maths seeing as our teacher makes sure she explains why and not just how to use it which is a lot better.

well how about i start a thread about it? I got the Math exercise books from all the way from 9th grade to last grade (12th?) that my brother left. maybe i could look up some stuff that i dont understand there and post it in the thread, then more experienced people can answer and exlpain while the others learn from it.

good idea yes / no?

At 10/4/08 04:36 PM, Toast wrote: good idea yes / no?

MMHMMM. Sounds good, there may be some i can answer. I'm up for a challenge ;D.

At 10/4/08 04:36 PM, Toast wrote: good idea yes / no?

Post maths problems too which we can solve for the fun of it :3

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At 10/4/08 05:05 PM, x-factor11 wrote: portal recession much?
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/46 3070

Ahh, man.
I thought that was a blam point for sure.
Some people these days...

actually, looking at google trends, we've lost quite a bit of activity
:O

At 10/4/08 05:15 PM, x-factor11 wrote: actually, looking at google trends, we've lost quite a bit of activity

O

Google trends shows what people are searching for, not sites. If you search "newgrounds" you'll see its pretty steady.

Yeah I'm like a genius at my school but on here I feel like an 8 year old :/ I got 139/150 in my SAT'S last year which was joint 3rd in my school. A random girl got 149/150 0o

I would be game for that maths thing. Even though we're setted at school the rest of my class slow me down since I'm not in the gifted class (due to me being stupid way back in year 7?!?)

At 10/4/08 05:20 PM, UnknownFury wrote:

At 10/4/08 05:15 PM, x-factor11 wrote: actually, looking at google trends, we've lost quite a bit of activity

O

Google trends shows what people are searching for, not sites. If you search "newgrounds" you'll see its pretty steady.

It's going down here though, albeit only slightly.

At 10/4/08 05:25 PM, Xeptic wrote: It's going down here though, albeit only slightly.

check out the statistics for google, yahoo, youtube etc. They all seem to be going down :/

At 10/4/08 04:58 PM, ArthurGhostly wrote:

At 10/4/08 04:50 PM, UnknownFury wrote: Post maths problems too which we can solve for the fun of it :3

I'll never know how people can entertain themselves with number crunching.
I can't imagine there being much space for creativity.

Don't try to use the subjectivity of your personality to reason what other people like.

At 10/4/08 04:58 PM, ArthurGhostly wrote:

At 10/4/08 04:50 PM, UnknownFury wrote: Post maths problems too which we can solve for the fun of it :3

I'll never know how people can entertain themselves with number crunching. First of all, there IS space for creativity in solving problems, whether it be maths or not. Try to search for some complicated problems and the solutions, you'll see that everyone uses different patterns and thought trails to find the solution. Secondly, it's not all about creativity. Your subjectivity might lead you to think that there's no fun when there's no creativity, but I would be happy to solve something complicated even if I wasn't "creative".

You like vaginas, I like penises. Why? who knows. some people prefer to do things that other people don't.

im not gay, it was just an analogy :x

Whoops, quote fail. repost:

At 10/4/08 04:58 PM, ArthurGhostly wrote:

I'll never know how people can entertain themselves with number crunching.

Don't try to use the subjectivity of your personality to reason what other people like.

First of all, there IS space for creativity in solving problems, whether it be maths or not. Try to search for some complicated problems and the solutions, you'll see that everyone uses different patterns and thought trails to find the solution. Secondly, it's not all about creativity. Your subjectivity might lead you to think that there's no fun when there's no creativity, but I would be happy to solve something complicated even if I wasn't "creative".

You like vaginas, I like penises. Why? who knows. some people prefer to do things that other people don't.

im not gay, it was just an analogy :x

At 10/4/08 05:43 PM, Toast wrote:

im not gay, it was just an analogy :x

How many times have i heard that?

At 10/4/08 06:06 PM, ArthurGhostly wrote:

At 10/4/08 05:43 PM, Toast wrote: Whoops, quote fail. repost:

At 10/4/08 04:58 PM, ArthurGhostly wrote:

First of all, there IS space for creativity in solving problems, whether it be maths or not. Try to search for some complicated problems and the solutions, you'll see that everyone uses different patterns and thought trails to find the solution.

Yeah. I understand everyone has their own flair and way of coding/mathematic-ising. But I still can only see a few ways to reach the right answer. Maybe it's because I've never really gotten interested in it that I'm blind to the many different ways to do an equation. But it always seems like - it's those ways or not at all.

Maybe it is. I especially like stuff like the Monty Hall Paradox, because nearly all people who take it adapt a false pattern the first time they see it. That's because the way it's presented in function of the way we are trained to think, makes us see it falsely. You need to really use your head and get past the things you learnt to solve it. It's like when yoda tells anakin to unlearn what he has learned if he wants to be a jedi.

I guess it's the satisfaction of solving a problem. Something is trying to stop you and you over come it - and that's a good feeling. But again. It just feels like the same problem over and over with maths.

You could argue that art too is a lot of the same things over and over, for example most artists use very similar styles all the time. That's not the point though. I don't like doing boring maths exercises either. Most of the time in maths class I'm really bored and I wanna sleep. What I enjoy is really using my brain at its maximum to figure something paradoxical or clever. I hate the average math exercise just like you do, because probably most of the things you know about maths and logic are from learning at school - which sucks. when a clever person comes up with a challenge for me im always interested to do it. The people who write math books for schools, however, are not clever, and don't write them for clever people.

I guess you'd feel the same about painting a form and getting real meticulous with the lighting, texture and what have you...

I don't paint much, so I can't say much about lighting etc. But although I don't do it much, I do enjoy drawing. As long as it's not in an art class where I have strict rules. If I have a funny idea or something that inspired me I enjoy drawing it.

Because they satisfy you. I get it. But where as vaginas are deep and fun to explore. Penises are blunt, boring and generally don't excite me.

subjectivity ftw. for me vaginas are just empty holes, while penises are very big and elastic and it's always fun to go to the beginning of the penis and find my way to the tip of it.

How many times have i heard that?

At 10/4/08 06:15 PM, Toast wrote: subjectivity ftw. for me vaginas are just empty holes, while penises are very big and elastic and it's always fun to go to the beginning of the penis and find my way to the tip of it.

Case Closed.

At 10/4/08 06:21 PM, ArthurGhostly wrote: But once you've explored the vagina. There's a whole load of other areas to get your hands stuck into. Once you've reached the end of a penis. That's it. Sure, you could find a new penis. But it'd feel like more of the same to me.

Yes, this is turning into the general reg lounge. Please take a U-Turn a head to avoid disturbingville.

just to close the case - no one has EVER reached the end of the penis. And no one ever will until we find the answer to life, the universe, and everything else. and btw i could say the same thing about the vagina - once you've explored all the areas of the vagina, what's left to do?

but anywaaays

i got a math textbook of the last year of highschool open in front of me. I think I'll just post some exercise I don't understand in a new thread. This stuff is 3 years ahead of me in terms of school years, so don't expect me to understand all the words and shit :)

At 10/4/08 05:25 PM, Xeptic wrote: It's going down here though, albeit only slightly.

ah, alright.. but it still seems that the portal is acting too forgiving lately, I was thinking maybe because the population dropped, therefore they would be less votes, making the scores slightly higher..

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Why wasn't I invited ?!

Ungrateful noobs >:[

Jews DO believe in Jesus, they just believe he was a prophet or something.

Math = omg >.> shut up nerds...

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At 10/4/08 06:30 PM, Toast wrote: just to close the case - no one has EVER reached the end of the penis. And no one ever will until we find the answer to life, the universe, and everything else. and btw i could say the same thing about the vagina - once you've explored all the areas of the vagina, what's left to do?

Explore them again, and again, and again.

OMG it's hard to type while drunk.

At 10/4/08 09:32 PM, liaaaam wrote: Jews DO believe in Jesus, they just believe he was a prophet or something.

Suuuureee.
Anyways I'm done spamming today.