At 9/13/09 05:34 PM, blokeice wrote: hey, I was wondering if I could join the BBS department. If that would be feasible, please contact me with any information that you think i should have.
sincerely, blokeice.

You have amazing forum skills for such a recent comer to the BBS, so I'd say it would be OK IF we were accepting new members at this time. However, the NGDD is currently in a sort of overextended hibernation period, as you would know if you had read at least the most recent page of the thread. Thus, we're not accepting new members at this point. Feel free to stick around and discuss what direction this place might take from here though, if you're serious about joining when the Department is rebuilt.

At 9/4/09 04:39 PM, michelinman wrote: Hope to see this place up and running soon!

As do we all... Don't worry, I recognize you as a regular from the EGB. DS gave his ideas on the previous page, discuss those ideas as you see fit.

DARKSOLDIER IF YOU ARE STILL READING PLEASE READ THIS:
We have been waiting for over a month since your last post (not counting that warning against replying to GOTHCLAWZ). Is there any news from your end? Any word from Phantom or yourself concerning new Department leaders? Or have you no free time in which to run the NGDD?

Gentlemen of the NGDD, I would love to join your fine estableshment. However, I know it's closed for renovations. If possible, I would love to help with the renovations, or if not possible, I would absolutly love you if you sent me a PM when it opens back up.

- X

At 9/13/09 06:22 PM, SoulMaster71 wrote: DARKSOLDIER IF YOU ARE STILL READING PLEASE READ THIS:

I know I've been kind of busy, almost too busy to run the NGDD. Of course, I'm not the one with the plans on who this building is going to get renovated, and it may be too late. We had the members a while ago, and we were getting some momentum. But it was all lost when nothing got done.

So I ask again, is this place worth keeping up, or should we just put her to sleep so she doesn't have to suffer anymore?

Being completely honest, I feel the humane road would be to kill this thread now. If Dark still wants to keep this place going, he can find members who promise they will join and stay active and make a new thread.

But no matter how the votes are split, You need to realize that some things must die. Even though you love your 103 year old great-grandfather, what life is he living when he's confined to a hospital bed, soiling himself? Even though you love Rocky I and II, why would seeing Rocky III, IV and V continue the magic? Even though you love the Department of Defense, what kind of future is it going to have? Is it worth spending time and energy to do, when it'll just end up as an old boys club where a few old guys sit around drinking and reminiscing about how great this place was?

You need to take a good look around here and see that none of the old guys - except for 2 or 3 - have interest anymore. There's nothing that we do that the EGB or the NGPD doesn't do or can't do. Newgrounds has changed since this place began, and other, mightier clubs and threads have fallen: Rage's, Are We Still Friends?, and many more have become stuff of memories, legends that the old guys pass on to the new members. Do you want to end up like the Newgrounds Mafia, a group of guys talking with a bunch of 1 posters, or do you want to die with whatever dignity we have left?

I say we end the pain and kill it now. Kill it now before it becomes embarrassing. If you want to continue, wait 6 months, find a few older guys who'll keep posting, and let the new guys not be so intimidated. But turn off the respirator on this thread.

At 9/14/09 07:14 AM, Lizzardis wrote:

At 9/14/09 12:45 AM, TheThing wrote:

You really know how to put things into perspective don't you?

Well, it started out kind of short and supposed to be kind of light hearted, but it turned out really serious. I just didn't have the time to go back and fix it.

Just let it go....

Now, I don't think that the idea of the NGDD should die or move to the EGB or NGPD. But clearly, this thread has stagnated. Like I suggested, wait 6 months to a year and open a new thread. Have an idea that would distinguish us from the EGB, and see if Phantom and Lizzardis will come back, and recruit a few guys from the EGB and NGPD and guys you know from the rest of the forums. I know I'll come back, but I can't speak for the rest of the guys.

So, we're just waiting for Dark and Phantom to cast a vote.

I disagree with both of you. If you read DS' post on the last page about his plans for the Department, It looks very promising. It isn't taking it's last breaths, it's just now taking its true form. Read the post about the new system on the last page and it makes the thread look like it's got a bright future. The EGB and NGPD are COMPLETELY different. They are just report threads for malicious activity. The NGDD covers a much larger area, and includes a diverse rank structure over all sections of NG, and that's why it's taking so long for all of this to go through.

He's just waiting until he has the time to kick this thread back into full gear, because as soon as he contacts the new department heads, there's no turning back, and it is gonna take a lot of time and effort to get the place up and running again through the new system. However, it can, and most likely WILL be done. It should be fairly easy to recruit members for this thread, as it is a really fun idea. Just give it some time and everything should work itself out. I understand how you guys feel as members from before, but as someone who wasn't involved, looking at this thread from the third person, it looks like it's gonna jump back up. It may be different, but it will work.

At 9/14/09 05:46 PM, TheThing wrote: Everything TheThing said.

To be honest I've been watching this thread for a while. You guys haven't moved a page in over a month and it's pretty sad. There used to be so much activity and now it's not really working out too well here. I know my opinion doesn't really count for much anymore, but I agree with Thing, wait some time then rebuild.

At 9/15/09 09:16 AM, AnalPenguinFarming wrote:

To be honest I've been watching this thread for a while. You guys haven't moved a page in over a month and it's pretty sad. There used to be so much activity and now it's not really working out too well here. I know my opinion doesn't really count for much anymore, but I agree with Thing, wait some time then rebuild.

I would like to add that the club was at it's most active peek in the last year right before I was kicked. As soon as I was kicked people started slowly leaving and stopped posting. The club itself isn't really needed though anymore as the EGB really does enough if not more than what this thread has done in the last year or so. I think you guys should just let it die out and/or lock it. You just keep posting that you're going to do something, but every time it's the same thing about being too busy. Something that would honestly take a total of one day to do on top of it.

DS, I need ya pal.

Knight rider reference wins.

Someone called?

At 9/15/09 12:10 AM, michelinman wrote: I disagree with both of you. If you read DS' post on the last page about his plans for the Department, It looks very promising.

I understand that the new system looks promising, but so did the last one, and the one before that. This, if my memory serves me, is the third redesign this particular thread of the NGDD has had. And you know what? After each redesign, there was a slight spurt of interest, and then people went on their way.

Look at the last page (not the one with the Hoff as the first post, but the page before it). The thread hadn't moved in 2 months. People just don't care any more. If DarkSoldier was serious about this redesign, he would have done something when a good amount of people were rounded up and posting here.

Look, if you want an NGDD, wait until Spring of 2010 before making a new thread. There will be a new cast of regulars that would be willing to come in, and Dark could refine his system. I'm not opposed to reopening the NGDD; I loved this place. But nostalgia can't sustain a thread.

At 9/15/09 08:28 PM, DarkSoldier wrote: Someone called?

We're all waiting on you. The vote, as it stands, is 1 for keeping the thread, 3 for closing it. We're waiting for Phantom to stop by and cast his vote.

At 8/23/09 06:09 PM, GOTHCLAWZ wrote: Why was he in power?

I maybe a month late in replying, but time is irrelevant. And to answer your question, I was in power because I knew what I was doing, some people came here looking for guidance, not a BFF. I don't even plan anything against you, I am just one man who believes you are the best example, of everything wrong in this BBS, this website, the internet, the United Kingdom and the world.

Now, on to matters important here. I haven't been around in a while due to prior affairs, but it is still painfully obvious this place in its current setup just won't thrive. I leave the important of this decision, to my most trusted NGDD men, so that they may choose our next step, should their be one.
Thank you.

Oh, and "CLAWZ", as long as there is even one human out there willing to stand up to your oppression, you will never succeed in making the world a douche factory. 4 out 5 doctors agree; the world would be better if your kind just shot themselves in the mouth with a shotgun, and took a big, long dirt nap.

So no one wants to step up and say anything in reference to Phantom's post? Well then clearly no one wants this to continue. I check every day for something to happen here. So if no one wants to take the role of continuing with the NGDD, then it's time to let the NGPD and the EGB start doing what we left off with. It was a good run for everyone, but maybe this just isn't the time for the NGDD to be up and running again.

I'm calling it to give some time and let the planning work itself out. Start the NGDD in a few months when everyone may have time again. Don't close the topic, but let people gradually come back and see how it turns out. It isn't an end or a beginning of an end forever, but instead it's a time when we need to sit back and see if Newgrounds really needs a place like us anymore.

Those are my thoughts, if anyone else has an opinion, then state it.

Did I come in at a bad time to join?

At 10/8/09 10:57 AM, AnalPenguinFarming wrote: Those are my thoughts, if anyone else has an opinion, then state it.

I've tried to talk to DarkSoldier about this, and he hasn't repsonded. It's been almost a week after the deadline I gave him to make a convincing argument on why this should stay alive and prove that his mythical new LD system will be able to sustain life here. As far as I'm concerned, the main opponent to the NGDD's closing doesn't care anymore.

I say we lock this thread. I'll still have the link on my userpage for reference. It'll also be there for when (and if) the thread pops up. But I think I've made my arguments pretty clear over the last few pages. The only thing I would like to add (or reiterate), is that with a new thread, it gives the NGDD a fresh face, and a less intimidating demeanor. It'll attract a slew of new members, and I'm sure a few old guys will help run it and keep it going. But this thread has become stagnant and unable to support itself under its 470 pages.

So that's it. If DarkSoldier or Phantom have nothing to say, and TheThing is against the idea of continuing here, then we need to shut the whole place down. I won't be the one to do it, but one of you should. If this place is started back up I would join, assuming it had more organization. I'm not cut out to be a leader of this place anymore, it takes too much time. In my senior year of college I don't have time for much of anything anymore.

Good luck to you all.

Sorry guys, my computers video card was broken for the past 15 days. And I am very sorry to TheThing for not replying to you on PS3.

I personally think the NGDD thread should stay open. It leaves a door for opportunity. If it's locked and someone then wants to re-create it, I doubt we'll get a mod to open this thread. And therefore causing us to start a new thread and what will the first post be of that thread? The LD System was suppose to be a sort of beta of the New-NGDD system. So personally, I would hope this thread stays open but if you guys feel that it's better off closed then I won't object to it...

I just been really busy and working on the LD System has been hard. When I look at the overall progress of the LD System, it looks good but then I think about the commitment that people in the NGDD will have to put forward in order for the system to not fail and I start to be concerned. People are busy with their lives and that's fine, I'm busy with mine too. The LD System would need every NGDD member being an active member of their position/rank in the NGDD. If one person would to mess up or not do their work, the whole system could fall...

John~

At 10/13/09 10:40 PM, DarkSoldier wrote: I personally think the NGDD thread should stay open. It leaves a door for opportunity.

I see what you're saying. It would be easier to have this thread remain open so it coudl be revied easier. But I think a new thread is needed anyway. I was for a new thread when the NGDD was redesigned. We've changed drastically since that first post, and I think a new thread would reflect that. As I've said, it'll draw in many new members who don't know about this old thread, and it'd be nice to not have any of the shenanigans posted here or the disappointing ending.

Mods (especially the rare non-douche ones) usually don't mind either re-opening a thread that was requested to be shut down or allowing a new thread of the same club reemerge. If we can secure permission and keep a record of it, it should be no problem.

I just been really busy and working on the LD System has been hard. When I look at the overall progress of the LD System, it looks good but then I think about the commitment that people in the NGDD will have to put forward in order for the system to not fail and I start to be concerned. People are busy with their lives and that's fine, I'm busy with mine too. The LD System would need every NGDD member being an active member of their position/rank in the NGDD. If one person would to mess up or not do their work, the whole system could fall...

If that's the case, we need to rethink the LD system. Things change on Newgrounds very rapidly, as do lives. What I can commit to today may not be the case in 3 months. We need a system that does not rely on everyone being at the right place at the right time. People can be unreliable at times, and we need a system that will be able to compensate for that.

I can see that you agree we need to take time off from the NGDD. I'm glad something is progressing. I say we use this thread in order to discuss how the LD system can change to make it less reliant on everyone working cohesively. Unless there's some place else we can go to talk about it of course. If there is a place to go, I say we work on securing the proper permission to close this thread and either reopen it later or make a new thread.

John~

~Eric

This sounds interesting. I would like to join the Department of BBS. Who do I talk to in order to learn more?

At 10/18/09 01:25 AM, OpsMan92 wrote: This sounds interesting. I would like to join the Department of BBS. Who do I talk to in order to learn more?

Sorry, we're not taking new members. It's still up in the air on what's happening with this club, so I suggest checking back in a few months.

Reason this has failed now is the fannying around with a new sytem, it took me and Dave 2 days to come up with the last one, this has taken 2 months I think so far and then people wonder why people don't post.

I have a few ideas but since i'm not a member anymore you probably don't want to hear them so I won't post them unless asked.

At 10/27/09 07:25 PM, WastedWizard wrote: Reason this has failed now is the fannying around with a new sytem, it took me and Dave 2 days to come up with the last one, this has taken 2 months I think so far and then people wonder why people don't post.

I have a few ideas but since i'm not a member anymore you probably don't want to hear them so I won't post them unless asked.

I don't know. DarkSoldier apparently has this huge plan, but he is never on to discuss it or how to make it better.

Been looking around NG, looks like its dying slowly. I remember when I had to skip to the third page to get to the NGDD when the last post was 1 day ago. Now 3 pages in and theres topics from weeks ago, shame I guess but maybe there is just generally not enough people on for this to be worth while.

Id like to join the Department of Flash if there is room. I meet the b/s points requirement, i've got more then 30 good reviews and im making my way to a silver whistle.

At 11/19/09 06:25 PM, Hedzshot01 wrote: Id like to join the Department of Flash if there is room. I meet the b/s points requirement, i've got more then 30 good reviews and im making my way to a silver whistle.

This place is, apparently, closed for a few months until an inevitable reboot of some sort. Because the NGDD is closed, it's not accepting new members at this time.

At 10/27/09 07:25 PM, WastedWizard wrote: I have a few ideas but since i'm not a member anymore you probably don't want to hear them so I won't post them unless asked.

By all means say something.

Hey I would like to join. I'm a little new but I would like to be a part of the audio department even though I don't have any of the requirements.

So, this place kind of just...died, didn't it? That's some sad stuff. I have many fond memories of it.

Just thought i'd check up on the ol' NGDD, rough times i guess.

At 3/6/10 08:10 PM, Cole wrote: So, this place kind of just...died, didn't it? That's some sad stuff. I have many fond memories of it.

Yeah, I'll always remember this place. One day though, it will be brought back and active again. :)

At 3/20/10 11:58 PM, DarkSoldier wrote:

At 3/6/10 08:10 PM, Cole wrote: So, this place kind of just...died, didn't it? That's some sad stuff. I have many fond memories of it.

Yeah, I'll always remember this place. One day though, it will be brought back and active again. :)

I'm up for a reboot.