At 11/4/04 10:16 PM, MPA wrote: As for the fixit talk: MACHINE who is out of commission due to the programers' move or some circumstance where the program is unable to run due to computer limitations of perhaps said move or many other options which could only be guesses on our part. OR said machine was programmed to stall at 49,000 until #2 gets to XX,XXX b/p then start up again, which is the more unlikely option.

umm so the program would also increment the account's amount of experience every day until the program fails to continue its task. When did fixit's madness end?

Something doesn't make any sense.. if fixit was programmed to gain b/p pts, how would the program know that a flash is passing or not? Would it wait that the flash has 50 votes, 100 views or another necessary stat to vote the flash because it can't judge correctly a flash that only received 3 votes. It could still make mistakes but not as much as voting flashes without a significant amount of votes.

BTW, fixit was flagging reviews, flashes, etc. He has a silver whistle. Isn't that weird? I know that the program can't stop the real user to use the account whenever he wants (that would explain the posts) but if he wasn't dedicated to voting, how could he be dedicated to whistle?

Sidenote: j00bie has his own club in the c&c section, that's the last that ng bbs needs. How can this guy manage to get fans?
hehe sorry j00, I don't have anything personnal against you. It's just that sometimes you get really annoying.

At 11/4/04 10:31 PM, Lacie wrote:

At 11/4/04 05:52 PM, QuikFox wrote: Also, congratulations to BonusStage on his 5,000th post.

YES CONGRATULATIONS,
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Its about time that spammer got that high of a post count.
I'm surprised it took him this long to get it that high, lol. Plus, he made me come and congratulate him on this, he said if I didn't

Said the guy with 18 posts per day... </lawls>

Yes congrats to BS for the big 5k.

Yep, his post amount is bigger than anything else he has :D </cough>
except his amount of blams.

As for me i did make my 2000th posts tonight yay.

Congratulations and good luck spamming all night. See you in two weeks when you will get your 3000th...

</fun over> :( It doesn't mean I hate you guys :)

At 11/4/04 10:42 PM, EKRegulus wrote: umm so the program would also increment the account's amount of experience every day until the program fails to continue its task. When did fixit's madness end?

I believe March, but I could be wrong.

Something doesn't make any sense.. if fixit was programmed to gain b/p pts, how would the program know that a flash is passing or not?

You know that little info screen that pops up when you mouseover the flashes in the "50 Most Recent" column? It used to say what the Batting Average was for the author. I bet that he used the program to "read" that Batting Average and vote based on that.

Would it wait that the flash has 50 votes, 100 views or another necessary stat to vote the flash because it can't judge correctly a flash that only received 3 votes. It could still make mistakes but not as much as voting flashes without a significant amount of votes.

Think of all the ways that your brain decides on if a flash is going to be good or not. Things like size (if it is 30KB, do you automatically vote 0?), Grammar in the Authors Comments (if he is talking like a three year old, or says that this is his first flash, do you auto-vote 0?), or if his batting average in his profile is really high (assuming he has a profile, if it is 4.00, then can you assume that his next flash will pass judgement?)...etc. These are all things that you can make a program do.

BTW, fixit was flagging reviews, flashes, etc. He has a silver whistle. Isn't that weird? I know that the program can't stop the real user to use the account whenever he wants (that would explain the posts) but if he wasn't dedicated to voting, how could he be dedicated to whistle?

A Silver Whistle isn't hard to get. Maybe he spent some time using his account without the program running. That might be why he doesn't have a Normal Whistle.

At 11/4/04 07:32 PM, BonusStage wrote: Same here, and i swear if anyone did, but tried to use sarcasm to cover it up, they are a whore <3

You're absolutely right! Damn those sarcastic, level-up hiding, people who accept payment in exchange for sexual favors!

At 11/4/04 10:52 PM, RedCircle wrote: A Silver Whistle isn't hard to get. Maybe he spent some time using his account without the program running. That might be why he doesn't have a Normal Whistle.

I can't even remember the last time I blew the whistle on a submission or marked a review abusive. Ha! I'm waiting for one of my alternates to drop to bronze before I start working on this account again. It's kind of a test to see how long it takes. I never thought I flagged that many reviews.

... and I still think fixit was a voting program.

At 11/4/04 10:52 PM, RedCircle wrote: I believe March, but I could be wrong.

I was asking for an exact date :( Dogma will save us! *calling him* Doooooooogmaaaaa! Doooooogmaaaaa!
I could also check previous pages on this topic or dogma's egrl topic but that would need too much of my time. I want to waste it on something else.

You know that little info screen that pops up when you mouseover the flashes in the "50 Most Recent" column? It used to say what the Batting Average was for the author. I bet that he used the program to "read" that Batting Average and vote based on that.

ok, ok Is there a way to guess the batting average if it wasn't determined yet? <?> doesn't mean much
I'm sure that he had a way to find out the current score of a flash.

Think of all the ways that your brain decides on if a flash is going to be good or not. Things like size (if it is 30KB, do you automatically vote 0?), Grammar in the Authors Comments (if he is talking like a three year old, or says that this is his first flash, do you auto-vote 0?), or if his batting average in his profile is really high (assuming he has a profile, if it is 4.00, then can you assume that his next flash will pass judgement?)...etc. These are all things that you can make a program do.

I'm sure that they are easier ways to implement a b/p program...

A Silver Whistle isn't hard to get. Maybe he spent some time using his account without the program running. That might be why he doesn't have a Normal Whistle.

That's what I said. You are repeating me.

At 11/4/04 11:09 PM, BonusStage wrote:

Said the guy with 18 posts per day... </lawls>

Says the guy with more than him, ever since he began posting more than likely ;P

I'm counting this post.

728 posts since 9/18/04

It means 15,166666666 posts per day which is smaller than 18 posts per day. It seems that I don't have more posts than him since I started to post regularly.

Next time, you should try to justify yourself before you post so you can avoid miskates like that one. :D

At 11/4/04 11:02 PM, EKRegulus wrote: I was asking for an exact date

April.

ok, ok Is there a way to guess the batting average if it wasn't determined yet? <?> doesn't mean much
I'm sure that he had a way to find out the current score of a flash.

He read the HTML of the page. It searched for where it said A+, B+, C+, D+, F+ and voted based on that number.

And if the author didn't have a BA yet, then it was random or he voted based upon the above reasons (size, grammar, etc.)

Now after that system stopped, then he stopped. There was also a system of voting that included random characters that one would have to type in everytime someone voted, but thankfully, it was discarded.

I'm sure that they are easier ways to implement a b/p program...

Easier ways don't necessarily mean smarter...

A Silver Whistle isn't hard to get. Maybe he spent some time using his account without the program running. That might be why he doesn't have a Normal Whistle.

That's what I said. You are repeating me.

Actually, I didn't say anything you said below:

At 11/4/04 10:42 PM, EKRegulus wrote: BTW, fixit was flagging reviews, flashes, etc. He has a silver whistle. Isn't that weird? I know that the program can't stop the real user to use the account whenever he wants (that would explain the posts) but if he wasn't dedicated to voting, how could he be dedicated to whistle?

Getting Silver Whistle doesn't require someone to be dedicated.

At 11/4/04 11:32 PM, RedCircle wrote:

At 11/4/04 11:02 PM, EKRegulus wrote: I was asking for an exact date

April.

OMFG thats only one twelth of the month... NOT EXACT!
haahahah.

well, theres been heaps of talk of voting programs and what to blam, and i like it :P haha.
D0GMA - on page 807, you said that each of your alt accounts have over 65K b/p.... lol, i dont think so :P

He read the HTML of the page. It searched for where it said A+, B+, C+, D+, F+ and voted based on that number.

yeh, that was a pretty good way to easily vote if you were low on time...
its easy to figure out whether to 0 or 5 something, i'd say.
first off, look at the filesize. second, see if they've got any other flashes - check their scores.
third, read the authors comments, if they seem intelligent, hover over the '2' button, haha.
if you're still unsure, look at their profile.
i'd say most people with a level 10 account, decent amount of B/P points and reviews would know what is crap, and probly wouldnt submit a free blam.
if you're still unsure... watch the damn submission!
hahah.

Getting Silver Whistle doesn't require someone to be dedicated.

damn straight it doesnt. i got it in about a week from when i started flagging reviews.
i recken it took me about 20 reviews... and i probably got like 6 points overall from it :)

At 11/4/04 11:32 PM, RedCircle wrote: April.

Very exact.... are you playing a game or something?

He read the HTML of the page. It searched for where it said A+, B+, C+, D+, F+ and voted based on that number.

Possibly

And if the author didn't have a BA yet, then it was random or he voted based upon the above reasons (size, grammar, etc.)

Somehow, verify the comment of the author and consider it when the program votes seem difficult to implement. Would his program search for key words? and then grammar.. ummm it seems very unlikely.

We could try to guess it all day, we might never find how the program was coded...

Now after that system stopped, then he stopped. There was also a system of voting that included random characters that one would have to type in everytime someone voted, but thankfully, it was discarded.

That's an interesting fact. It would mean that whoever coded fixit's b/p program couldn't find the exact scores. By exact scores, I mean the number that is usually hidden from us.

Easier ways don't necessarily mean smarter...

It means easier to code which makes it more interesting. He didn't need a perfect program to get an insane pace, espicially if he ran the program 24-7. We even have the proof that the program was missing many possible b/p pts probably because his voting system wasn't perfect.

Actually, I didn't say anything you said below:

At 11/4/04 10:42 PM, EKRegulus wrote: BTW, fixit was flagging reviews, flashes, etc. He has a silver whistle. Isn't that weird? I know that the program can't stop the real user to use the account whenever he wants (that would explain the posts) but if he wasn't dedicated to voting, how could he be dedicated to whistle?

Getting Silver Whistle doesn't require someone to be dedicated.

Although, we both said that a real person took the time to whistle some flashes/abusive reviews. oh yeah, and a silver whistle doesn't show how dedicated or not was a person because it takes a huge amount of whistled abusive reviews/flashes to get a gold whistle. We don't know how many gained whistle pts that he has.

At 11/4/04 11:47 PM, M-A-R-C-U-S wrote:

At 11/4/04 11:32 PM, RedCircle wrote:

At 11/4/04 11:02 PM, EKRegulus wrote: I was asking for an exact date

April.

OMFG thats only one twelth of the month... NOT EXACT!
haahahah.

one twelth of a month... ummm so each period of 2,5 days in november has a new name :O

Nice typo there.

At 11/1/04 06:07 AM, BonusStage wrote:

Congrats Recon for regaining the #4 position on the blam/save list. :)
You are going to finish the day ahead of me. I have too many other commitments tonight.
Happy Holloween

Commitments either means A. doin' his wife :o or B. Treating the kids he PROBABLY HAS to a good times (non-sexual time of course :o)

LOL no actually I've been taking on working nights this week.
It's killing my deposits, but it's gotta be done

At 11/4/04 11:53 PM, EKRegulus wrote: one twelth of a month... ummm so each period of 2,5 days in november has a new name :O

well actually, the word 'April' would narrow it down to 1/12...
for you see, i have no idea what you're talking about, and have no idea what date you were asking for.
so when someone asks for an exact date of something, i would say the word 'April' narrows down all possibilities in the year to 1/12th of what it was before.

Nice typo there.

umm, it wasnt.
:P
im gona go check the ng quick draw... i deposited at 12:00:09 today...

(RedCircle reporting)

Pure_lionheart now has 2,600 experience points.

No need to congratulate Pure. I figure one post every 10 days isn't bad. Just keeping track of his numbers.

At 11/5/04 12:12 AM, M-A-R-C-U-S wrote: well actually, the word 'April' would narrow it down to 1/12...
for you see, i have no idea what you're talking about, and have no idea what date you were asking for.
so when someone asks for an exact date of something, i would say the word 'April' narrows down all possibilities in the year to 1/12th of what it was before.

I thought that you would need to say 1/12 of a YEAR but the problem might be my limited skills in english. Maybe I'm thinking in french while reading in english... it happens all the time.

I KNEW WHAT YOU MEANT, i just thought that you made a typing mistake.

"Congrats everyone who deserves it!" ;D

I deposited today at 12:00:03!!! Im so close grr... :D

At 11/5/04 12:02 AM, Bila wrote:

At 11/1/04 06:07 AM, BonusStage wrote: Commitments either means A. doin' his wife :o or B. Treating the kids he PROBABLY HAS to a good times (non-sexual time of course :o)

LOL no actually I've been taking on working nights this week.
It's killing my deposits, but it's gotta be done.

So does this mean I have a chance to take back the #4 spot Bila? If your blam/protect points are really suffering I should see a decrease in your daily gains via SK's total listing. You're lucky I haven't grabbed a computer yet old man.

At 11/5/04 12:15 AM, EKRegulus wrote: I thought that you would need to say 1/12 of a YEAR but the problem might be my limited skills in english. Maybe I'm thinking in french while reading in english... it happens all the time.

I KNEW WHAT YOU MEANT, i just thought that you made a typing mistake.

ohh okie dokie. well i thought that you had previously discussed dates about whatever you were asking, and 1/12th was wrong, :P hahah.
well, its all good then, eh?

oh, i see 'tu habite a Gatineau! Tu parle Francais? eh, je parle un peu.' haha, cant do accents on the bbs with my keyboard... it pisses me off! i've done french for a couple of years now in school. we dont learn much, but its not too bad :)

well done Carmel! today i deposited at 12:00:09, thus putting me in the 10th spot for the SECOND day in a row, hahah. i really dont know how you can get it right on the dot...

At 11/5/04 12:28 AM, M-A-R-C-U-S wrote: oh, i see 'tu habite a Gatineau! Tu parle Francais? eh, je parle un peu.' haha, cant do accents on the bbs with my keyboard... it pisses me off! i've done french for a couple of years now in school. we dont learn much, but its not too bad :)

The best french courses you could find are in Quebec and France. It's better to learn it where most people use it.

Lorsque tu utilises le pronom "tu", n'oublie pas d'ajouter un "s" à la terminaison du verbe au présent. Je suis certain que tu le savais, mais ça me dérangeais trop pour que j'évite de faire une remarque.

Here's how I would type it ( I will keep it simple): Quelle surprise! Tu habites à Gatineau. Est-ce que tu utilises régulièrement le français? J'ai appris ce language, mais je ne suis pas encore assez à l'aise pour finir mon paragraphe en utilisant le même language avec lequel je l'ai commencé.

<--- If you can understand exactly what I just typed, you aren't that bad :P I probably made 2-3 mistakes but it doesn't matter on the internet. I didn't follow any french courses since 2 years mainly because I'm learning something else at a bilingual university where most teachers know much more about their subject than the language that they use. It obviously hurts the quality of my sentences.

It's good to know that you know something about the place where I live. :)

At 11/5/04 12:28 AM, M-A-R-C-U-S wrote: well done Carmel! today i deposited at 12:00:09, thus putting me in the 10th spot for the SECOND day in a row, hahah. i really dont know how you can get it right on the dot...

Haha i dont know how to, i only know TheJoe knows how to always be the first :D
Im just looking at my time (7 in the morning) and im pressing it while its switching from 6:59 to 7:00, mostly its not in time so i have to click the random submission button as fast as i can ;D

At 11/5/04 12:49 AM, EKRegulus wrote: The best french courses you could find are in Quebec and France. It's better to learn it where most people use it.

ever noticed how the average European person can speak atleast 2 languages?? it pisses me off, that we're so uneducated...

Lorsque tu utilises le pronom "tu", n'oublie pas d'ajouter un "s" à la terminaison du verbe au présent. Je suis certain que tu le savais, mais ça me dérangeais trop pour que j'évite de faire une remarque.

umm, indeed. lol. i've only started to learn about the verbs and stuff a week or two ago. its simply been building my vocab over the past few years, and learning the extreme basics.
i would think you said something like " 's' terminates the present tense of a verb. you are certain that i -something-. (what does trop mean again? i should know it). and then you said something about something or other :P all new words for me. :)

Here's how I would type it ( I will keep it simple): Quelle surprise! Tu habites à Gatineau. Est-ce que tu utilises régulièrement le français? J'ai appris ce language, mais je ne suis pas encore assez à l'aise pour finir mon paragraphe en utilisant le même language avec lequel je l'ai commencé.

'what a suprise! you live in Gatineau.' i have no idea what the next sentence means... 'i can speak a little of the language, but i cannot understand more than a paragraph'.... well, i really have no idea, but something along those lines... maybe.

<--- If you can understand exactly what I just typed, you aren't that bad

well, i've got no fucking idea :P

P I probably made 2-3 mistakes but it doesn't matter on the internet. I didn't follow any french courses since 2 years mainly because I'm learning something else at a bilingual university where most teachers know much more about their subject than the language that they use. It obviously hurts the quality of my sentences.

eh, yeh i guess. so, you dont speak french as a first language? eh... i learnt just today how to use the verbs avoir, etre, aller and faire in past tense sentences... i think im AWESOME! haha.

It's good to know that you know something about the place where I live. :)

lol, i've never heard of Gatineau! XP hahaha. i had a look see in your profile :P
have you got MSN? i've got a French exam coming up :P hahah.
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BOO-YA!

At 11/5/04 12:22 AM, carmelhadinosaur wrote: "Congrats everyone who deserves it!" ;D

I deposited today at 12:00:03!!! Im so close grr... :D

What's up with the depositing right on the dot??? Do you get some kind of a reward or something?? Please explain...

At 11/5/04 01:03 AM, SeeD419 wrote:

At 11/5/04 12:22 AM, carmelhadinosaur wrote: "Congrats everyone who deserves it!" ;D

I deposited today at 12:00:03!!! Im so close grr... :D

What's up with the depositing right on the dot??? Do you get some kind of a reward or something?? Please explain...

It's just a game to see who can be the first to deposit their experience points after midnight. You don't win a cookie or respect points. You just prove you have nothing better to do with your time (I'll win one of these days).

At 11/5/04 01:06 AM, Recon_Rebel wrote: You just prove you have nothing better to do with your time

Hahahaha so true XD
That was a great one!!
I think i succeed beeing the first 2 or 3 times... ;P

At 11/4/04 08:39 PM, philonous wrote:
Of course, that now gives me an excuse to mention that I just got Elite Guard Corporal ;-) - it's not much, but hey it's a rank-up.

Rank-ups always count. Grats =)

At 11/4/04 11:02 PM, EKRegulus wrote:

At 11/4/04 10:52 PM, RedCircle wrote: I believe March, but I could be wrong.

I was asking for an exact date :( Dogma will save us! *calling him* Doooooooogmaaaaa! Doooooogmaaaaa!

I can't give you an exact date, but like I've said a bunch of times, it was the end of April. 22 April update he had 49,404 so it was within the next day or two that he stopped. He stalled at 49,500 then picked up the other 3 points over the next few weeks, which is what kept him from getting italics for a while.

At 11/4/04 11:32 PM, RedCircle wrote:
He read the HTML of the page. It searched for where it said A+, B+, C+, D+, F+ and voted based on that number.

And if the author didn't have a BA yet, then it was random or he voted based upon the above reasons (size, grammar, etc.)

Tha BA was coded into a mouseover, much like now you will see tha author name and size of the flash when it is UJ, and see the score of it as well once it passes. IIRC authors with no BA got a 0.

fixit stalled several months before JC's autovoter was released ... it's not to say he wasn't using it or something similar, just that there's no correlation between the removal of the BA from the page coding to fixit stalling. As I recall, Syme and fixit stalled about the same time and I was making some joke about how they were off on some beach together,

At 11/4/04 11:47 PM, M-A-R-C-U-S wrote: D0GMA - on page 807, you said that each of your alt accounts have over 65K b/p.... lol, i dont think so :P

What I said was

At 11/4/04 08:03 AM, D0GMA wrote: All accounts = over 65k BP. Once I stall this one I can get back to work.

I did not say each account. I don't make silly comments like you claiming to earn 6500 in a day :-P~~~

yeh, that was a pretty good way to easily vote if you were low on time...

There was an even easier way, but they closed that loophole end of July or so.

At 11/5/04 12:58 AM, M-A-R-C-U-S wrote: ever noticed how the average European person can speak atleast 2 languages?? it pisses me off, that we're so uneducated...

It's kinda needed to learn more than one language in Europe.
I don't even know how to speak english correctly, I'm also very uneducated :P <--- I exaggerated a little bit on the uneducated part of the sentence.

umm, indeed. lol. i've only started to learn about the verbs and stuff a week or two ago. its simply been building my vocab over the past few years, and learning the extreme basics.

I learned the extreme basics before I went to school ;P The same happened to you for the english language.

i would think you said something like " 's' terminates the present tense of a verb. you are certain that i -something-. (what does trop mean again? i should know it). and then you said something about something or other :P all new words for me. :)

Alright, all words that follow a "tu" in french for the PRESENT TENSE end with a "s" BUT their the rest of their terminaisons really depends on the terminaison at the normal tense. errr how do you say "indicatif present" in english? It's like the " to verb" tense but it's not called the same way. "Trop" usually means too in most contexts.

'what a suprise! you live in Gatineau.' i have no idea what the next sentence means... 'i can speak a little of the language, but i cannot understand more than a paragraph'.... well, i really have no idea, but something along those lines... maybe.

It will take me too many lines to explain it on here and this topic wasn't made to learn french. You could go to the quebec club sometimes, they might help you :P I don't participate in that club but I might post sometimes.

well, i've got no fucking idea :P

hehe

eh, yeh i guess. so, you dont speak french as a first language? eh... i learnt just today how to use the verbs avoir, etre, aller and faire in past tense sentences... i think im AWESOME! haha.

I do speak french as my first language, I just don't MASTER my language. I'm very good at using that language, I'm just not perfect.

lol, i've never heard of Gatineau! XP hahaha. i had a look see in your profile :P
have you got MSN? i've got a French exam coming up :P hahah.

Gatineau is in Quebec if you know what I mean. Right beside Ottawa.
tankydude@hotmail.com Current MSN nickname is Dan. (can you guess my real name....)

I know all languages. Edn.

At 11/5/04 01:26 AM, RedCircle wrote: I know all languages. Edn.

I DIDN'T SEE IT COMING </huge sarcasm>

That joke is so overdone. :D

At 11/5/04 01:21 AM, EKRegulus wrote: It's kinda needed to learn more than one language in Europe.
I don't even know how to speak english correctly, I'm also very uneducated :P <--- I exaggerated a little bit on the uneducated part of the sentence.

hahah, fair enough.

I learned the extreme basics before I went to school ;P The same happened to you for the english language.

yep yep, thats right.

Alright, all words that follow a "tu" in french for the PRESENT TENSE end with a "s" BUT their the rest of their terminaisons really depends on the terminaison at the normal tense. errr how do you say "indicatif present" in english? It's like the " to verb" tense but it's not called the same way. "Trop" usually means too in most contexts.

are thats right, too... yeh thats it. eh, the 'to verb'... i dunno really.

It will take me too many lines to explain it on here and this topic wasn't made to learn french. You could go to the quebec club sometimes, they might help you :P I don't participate in that club but I might post sometimes.

hahaha. yeh i dont think we should go through it in here :P haha.
D0GMA would go skitz most likely.

I do speak french as my first language, I just don't MASTER my language. I'm very good at using that language, I'm just not perfect.

ahh fair enough. well, i'd say i have a pretty good grasp on English.

Gatineau is in Quebec if you know what I mean. Right beside Ottawa.

yep i knew it was in that area, just never heard of it :P

tankydude@hotmail.com Current MSN nickname is Dan. (can you guess my real name....)

lol yeh, mine too. :)
ill add ya.
marcus_jwm@hotmail.com

At 11/5/04 01:33 AM, EKRegulus wrote: I DIDN'T SEE IT COMING </huge sarcasm>

Dude, what the fuck is up with you today? I'm just giving a nice link to a website that happens to have an excellent language translator on it, and you insult me? Plus, I try to make it funny, and bleh...you make this place more serious than it needs to be.

That joke is so overdone. :D

Well, this was the first time I've used the joke ever (and I haven't seen it done anywhere else), so go screw yourself.