At 11/4/04 02:32 AM, Recon_Rebel wrote:

At 11/4/04 12:20 AM, EKRegulus wrote: It must be broken now :P Does anyone know why fixit is gone? That guy was and still is very mysterious.

fixit was never a real person as far as I'm concerned. It was an auto voting program someone tried to implement but eventually got busted for. I find it very difficult to believe a single person could pass ramagi so easily in b/p points.

i would disagree. keep in mind there are some people who literally have no lives. i think that fixit may or may not have been one of these people, but one thing is for sure... of the life he did have, there was not much of it at all.

damnit! egh. i changed windows for a second, came back here, and wanted a new line in my post... pressed enter, and what do you know? its posted... fekc. sorry everyone.

At 11/4/04 02:23 AM, SeeD419 wrote: Well, fixit's still in first place so, he's b/p. And as for the other thing, I still find it hard to believe that getting to level 30 would take 90+ years. Why the hell would they have structured it like that. That would be ridiculous. I'm too lazy to do the math, but it just seems a little too weird that tom and wade never thought of that...

ok, heres my other theory on fixit.
he's simply made an alt account, and his user name for it is Ya_Ya... there have been people who've done similar things before, and i think that he may be trying to get TWO accounts into the EGSC rank on NG... man, that would be the day, i swear.
i think this, because its very unlikely that a machine/human such as fixit would suddenly leave, and not collect a single BP point for months at all.
but, someone tell me this: is he depositing?
if not, it IS possible that he may have actually died, or mad an extremely life altering descision about his lifestyle some time ago.
also: has Ya_Ya posted on the BBS? if not, i think that it could be fixit, and if so, he wouldnt be posting becaus he may not want to reveal that he's trying to get an alt account into the EGSC rank.
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i would appreciate it if everyone went here: i really, really like this thread. its only 11 or so posts long atm, so dont hesitate to go there, please.
http://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic.php?id=192121

At 11/4/04 02:51 AM, M-A-R-C-U-S wrote:
he's simply made an alt account, and his user name for it is Ya_Ya...

Certainly possible.

there have been people who've done similar things before,

/me whistles tunelessly looking up at the sky

and i think that he may be trying to get TWO accounts into the EGSC rank on NG... man, that would be the day, i swear.

/me scuffs the ground and tries to sneak out unobtrusively.

i think this, because its very unlikely that a machine/human such as fixit would suddenly leave, and not collect a single BP point for months at all.

He's "left" on several occasion before.

but, someone tell me this: is he depositing?

No. I passed him in XP a few weeks ago. He's been stalled since ~April.

if not, it IS possible that he may have actually died, or mad an extremely life altering descision about his lifestyle some time ago.

Or more simply, he was at a college and using its computers to vote/run a vote program. By the time he settled in elsewhere, he didn't know his password. If he had a program running it, it's more than likely that he had long since forgotten the password and the e-mail account under which he set it up.

also: has Ya_Ya posted on the BBS? if not, i think that it could be fixit, and if so, he wouldnt be posting becaus he may not want to reveal that he's trying to get an alt account into the EGSC rank.

fixit had essentially no posts anyway. One more ID who doesn't post doesn't mean anything.

At 11/4/04 03:17 AM, D0GMA wrote: Certainly possible.

indeed it is.

/me whistles tunelessly looking up at the sky

hehehe, how many did you achieve?

/me scuffs the ground and tries to sneak out unobtrusively.

lol... you've been a bad little ... 'thing' in the past, havent you?

He's "left" on several occasion before.

oh, okie dokie then.

No. I passed him in XP a few weeks ago. He's been stalled since ~April.

fair enough....

Or more simply, he was at a college and using its computers to vote/run a vote program. By the time he settled in elsewhere, he didn't know his password. If he had a program running it, it's more than likely that he had long since forgotten the password and the e-mail account under which he set it up.

hmmm, well thats valid... but, is it possible? i mean, who could you utilize college computers in such a way? wouldnt somebody need to use them and shut it down?
also, how the hell would the program know how to vote?
or does fixit have like 49,000 blams and like 3 protects?

fixit had essentially no posts anyway. One more ID who doesn't post doesn't mean anything.

very true. i made those theorys because i know absoluetly nothing about fixit... at all. haha.

I was playing this game and I can't believe it has a score below 3. It's a bit hard and in the big levels everything moves slower, but it's a good game and if you haven't already, vote 5.
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/201144

At 11/4/04 01:09 AM, M-A-R-C-U-S wrote:

At 11/4/04 12:42 AM, Qwoxyl wrote: Congrats to SCD for 8,888 posts, TRA for 1337 posts and 2k exp, Jerkclock for 2k saves, dr1zzt for level 10.

eh... what about meh 1337 stats?

"Congrats to me cause I rock"? No, just no.

Super dupa kulupa congratulations to Bila for 38,000 b/p points and ramagi for 48,000.

eh... dont reply to me huh? well... well now i have nothing to post about!

Hey, I did reply to you. You deposited all your money, I said I didn't get it (the money) and that Bonus called you the Spammer King. And if you have nothing to post about, don't post, it's that simple. ;)

At 11/4/04 01:49 AM, EKRegulus wrote: Keep the special congratulations for rank/level-ups and normal ones for anything else :P.

Alright, special congratulations to level 10 dr1zzt and normal congrats to everyone else.

At 11/4/04 02:23 AM, SeeD419 wrote: And as for the other thing, I still find it hard to believe that getting to level 30 would take 90+ years. Why the hell would they have structured it like that.

I suppose they would have thought the level 30 user wouldn't deposit for 90 years, or they would add extra levels at some point. The system was meant to favour people who had been depositing for longer, and it still does, as long as they don't stop depositing (otherwise they drop levels very quickly).

At 11/4/04 03:44 AM, M-A-R-C-U-S wrote:

/me whistles tunelessly looking up at the sky

hehehe, how many did you achieve?

We shall neither confirm nor deny the existence of these so-called "alts."

/me scuffs the ground and tries to sneak out unobtrusively.

lol... you've been a bad little ... 'thing' in the past, havent you?

Well, let's put it this way. I've been known to start clan wars ... when I'm in neither clan and someone from one of them just happened to upgrade from nuisance to annoyance. All it takes is a little knowledge, a little skill, and the "right" ID names. The best is still the time my friend and I started a clan war between allied clans back in Archmage days. It took them weeks to sort it out, by which time my clan had supplanted both of them from the top 50.

i mean, who could you utilize college computers in such a way? wouldnt somebody need to use them and shut it down?
also, how the hell would the program know how to vote?
or does fixit have like 49,000 blams and like 3 protects?

All his voting was back in the days when you could still see BAs on UJ flash, so it's entirely possible that something similar to JC's autovoter was in use. At a college as a comp sci major, you could certainly set something up to run off one of the servers. If that were the case, those long absences of his could be easily attributed to someone doing maintenance on the server and fixit not realizing the program had been reset in the process. A month or two later he notices it and starts it up again. If you can program an auto-voter, setting it up to only vote during certain times (to at least make it look like it's not a program) is a piece of cake.

Qwox - when i said i was depositing all of my money into the bank account, it was because you had said you were open for donations... so, i was stashing all of my money away!!
*taps head with finger to indicate the 'smarts'... yes, the smarts i dont have :P*

At 11/4/04 04:24 AM, D0GMA wrote: We shall neither confirm nor deny the existence of these so-called "alts."

oh no, ofcourse not. i myself have an alt, i signed up for it over a month ago...
a newly aquired level 9 account since 3 hours ago! hahaha.
but what im asking you is... how many b/p points do you have on your alt?

Well, let's put it this way. I've been known to start clan wars ... when I'm in neither clan and someone from one of them just happened to upgrade from nuisance to annoyance. All it takes is a little knowledge, a little skill, and the "right" ID names. The best is still the time my friend and I started a clan war between allied clans back in Archmage days. It took them weeks to sort it out, by which time my clan had supplanted both of them from the top 50.

well, thats all very bad ass of you... but wtf do you mean by 'clans'? how tf, do you have clans, on a website like this? or are you talking about online gaming or something man... i got no idea.
eh, you're a good little 'thing' now, but...
every devil has a past, every saint has a future.
(well, its not exactly like that, but something along those lines :P)

All his voting was back in the days when you could still see BAs on UJ flash,

yes, but all that showed was the Authors already-made BA... not the actual movies score. i've tested this... example:
TOXICBOMB - had an average of A+... had a movie... as you do, UJ...
it sais 'A+', i click on it, and its almost a free blam. i zero it, and its score is like 0.6...

so it's entirely possible that something similar to JC's autovoter was in use. At a college as a comp sci major, you could certainly set something up to run off one of the servers. If that were the case, those long absences of his could be easily attributed to someone doing maintenance on the server and fixit not realizing the program had been reset in the process. A month or two later he notices it and starts it up again. If you can program an auto-voter, setting it up to only vote during certain times (to at least make it look like it's not a program) is a piece of cake.

WHO IS THIS JC? AND WHERE CAN I GET ONE? lol, is there like an NG rule stating you cant use programs to get bp's? or is it already illegal to have devises like it anyways?? you must explain...
eh, i myself wouldnt like having one of those anyways for b/p.... because i wouldnt get that feeling of... well you know, i'd know i hadnt done anything, i hadnt achieved anything...
im not the sort of person that can enjoy that sort of thing (anymore).
eh, if what you say about this fixit character being a literal fixit-bot, them i'm impressed. hah.

Ugh. I'm in a semi-foul mood. I slept all day yesterday, and even though I needed the sleep, I'm like in a semi-dream state. Everything is just....weird.

Sorry about not posting so much tonight, but I do have one accomplishment for myself.

I'll see ya tomorrow. You all take care, and I'll be "chipper" later, I promise.

"Yes sir, I would like the Triple Cheeseburger, Large Fries, Small Vanilla Milkshake, and 2,000 Saves!" ^_^

At 11/4/04 05:03 AM, RedCircle wrote: Ugh. I'm in a semi-foul mood. I slept all day yesterday, and even though I needed the sleep, I'm like in a semi-dream state. Everything is just....weird.

lol, insomnia perhaps? lol, i love my sleep, cant get enough... (apart from when i wake up :P)

Sorry about not posting so much tonight, but I do have one accomplishment for myself.

and what's that? collecting more data? eh... 'tis grim without your presence...
well, to a degree :P

I'll see ya tomorrow. You all take care, and I'll be "chipper" later, I promise.

eh, im off soon... Stargate is on in... ohhh... 15 odd minutes... another 2 hours, YES. hahaha.
so yeh, im out soon.

"Yes sir, I would like the Triple Cheeseburger, Large Fries, Small Vanilla Milkshake, and 2,000 Saves!" ^_^

NOISHE! i got that on... Sunday morning i think (Saturday night for you rank yanks :P). i love it.
...
omfgz0r, probly already mentioned it like an hour ago, but its so cool.
im one of three people on NG with all of their stats over 2,000! tee... muther fekcing... hee hee. yes.
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...i was going to mention somehting else... but Rammstein made me forget... *bashes winamp*.. freaking windows media player screwed me over this evening! wouldnt freakin work! hahah.
well, i guess thats it from me for now.
congrats to everyone with an achievment as of recently, you deserve it :P hahah.
yep, thats it. im out. laters.

Congrats Red on the 2k saves, alos to MARCUS' alt for level up.

MPA

I use the phrase "old bean" quite alot on this forum, just ask MrX we had quite a discussion about it a week ago :)

All this talk of Fixit-Bots has made me hungry, i dunno why, but it has, so please stop :)

Hi there! I'm a n00b. I have shitty stats. I like Newgrounds.

So, how is everyone? :D

At 11/4/04 06:28 AM, Rio_MacHargintar wrote: Hi there! I'm a n00b.

Hey bud!

I have shitty stats.

I noticed ;-)

I like Newgrounds.

So do we all!

So, how is everyone? :D

After reading you post, actually a lot better. That was one great post. Keep it up man!

At 11/4/04 06:50 AM, RedCircle wrote: After reading you post, actually a lot better. That was one great post. Keep it up man!

Don't partonise me, Mike. >:P

At 11/4/04 06:57 AM, Rio_MacHargintar wrote:

At 11/4/04 06:50 AM, RedCircle wrote: After reading you post, actually a lot better. That was one great post. Keep it up man!

Don't partonise me, Mike. >:P

*patronize lol

:-P~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

At 11/4/04 06:57 AM, Rio_MacHargintar wrote: Don't partonise me, Mike. >:P

I can't believe it. My 10th post and I misspell a word. Pah.

Nevermind, eh? :P

At 11/4/04 06:28 AM, Rio_MacHargintar wrote: Hi there! I'm a n00b. I have shitty stats. I like Newgrounds.

So, how is everyone? :D

Helllo!!. I indeed with the stats, and i also like newgrounds.
AND IAM FINE >:(

At 11/4/04 06:03 AM, Slightly_Crazy_Dude wrote: Congrats Red on the 2k saves, alos to MARCUS' alt for level up.

thank you.
and helloooooo n00bie! hahaha, its like having a little kid running around the house... except its older than me!?! ahhh!!
hahahah.
well, im out. be back in...
maybe 9 hours, if i get up early enough :P

At 11/4/04 06:11 AM, BonusStage wrote: Fact is that that estimate isn't an exaggeration :\

Yup, but I am sure Newgrounds will do something about it. Its not like they are not aware of this problem. If you can call it a problem.

At 11/4/04 07:12 AM, StarshipTrooper wrote:

At 11/4/04 06:11 AM, BonusStage wrote: Fact is that that estimate isn't an exaggeration :\

Yup, but I am sure Newgrounds will do something about it. Its not like they are not aware of this problem. If you can call it a problem.

ahhh, i see you question the mystery of the 'exp points' hahah.
well, there is an extremely simple explanation for why it will take you 94 years or whatever to reach level 29-30.
for you see, everytime HumanTarget52 deposits (the lvl 30 dude), the max exp for every level from 10-29 goes up...
if you dont get what i mean... eg: your exp is something like 468/1,244... SAY.
when human target deposits tomorrow, that will change to 1,245... after the next day it will do nothing, and the day after that, up to 1,246.
it gets worse and worse as the levels go up. i think it was either RedCircle or D0GMA who has explained it before.
from waht i remember, it goes something like this:
max exp levels:
level 10 - 0 , 1 , 0 , 1 , 0 (goes up 1 exp point ever second day.)
level 11 - 1 , 1 , 1 , 1 , 1
level 12 - 1, 2 , 1 , 2 1
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level 29 - 9 , 10 , 9 , 10 , 9 ....
so as you can see... the reason why it will now take you so long to get up there in the high levels, is because by the time you reach say level 14 or so... the max exp for the higher levels will be so freaking high, it will take you forever to level up... and, as you can see, 94 years to reach level 29-30, hahah.
also, you signed up like... on the first day!! you must hardly ever, ever, EVER come here. haha.
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today i got 6 ppd!! YAH!!
well, with that, i bid you, adew.

At 11/4/04 06:03 AM, Slightly_Crazy_Dude wrote: Congrats Red on the 2k saves, alos to MARCUS' alt for level up.

Thanks man ^_^ Now I'm closer to being on j00bie's "2000+ in everything list" (back when even j00bie wanted to get into the list realm).

Marcus...I that list you stated above was originally done by Newgrundling, or Geefox, or Nemesis, or TheJoe...They were the original gangstas :-D

At 11/4/04 07:47 AM, M-A-R-C-U-S wrote: stuff

Yeah, I know...all of that. And i do come here, nearly every day In fact. I was away for a good few months back in 03 but thats it. I just never, ever submited my exp. Or blammed / Saved an entry. Only now, I have decided to bother. Probably because I have nothing better to do.

At 11/4/04 04:49 AM, M-A-R-C-U-S wrote:
oh no, ofcourse not. i myself have an alt, i signed up for it over a month ago...
a newly aquired level 9 account since 3 hours ago! hahaha.

Grats =) I just hit the point where I have no accounts that will level up within 2 months. Even though levels are meaningless, it's kind of sad.

but what im asking you is... how many b/p points do you have on your alt?

All accounts = over 65k BP. Once I stall this one I can get back to work.

well, thats all very bad ass of you... but wtf do you mean by 'clans'? how tf, do you have clans, on a website like this? or are you talking about online gaming or something man... i got no idea.

Gaming.

In Diablo II, there's one clan war (of 4) that's never been traced back to me. I started that one in 2000 and when I quit playing last year everyone who still played hated each other.

Before that was Archmage, an online, turn-based, strategy game. Started at least 6 there.

There was some online strat game my brother got me into before that ... started some guild wars there ... was kind of fun to log on and see half the city in flames from the guilds fire-bombing each other's shops. Forget the name but it was British I think. Only got a couple going before I moved on to AM.

Before that was Case's Ladder Euchre, back before Yahoo figured out how to make a ranking system. No real clans or guilds there, but there were cliques. I'd get an alt in good with one, playing really well with them right up until a critical game against me (or a friend of mine) ... then mysteriously tank it ... all the while spreading rumours of what some other clique was saying about them. Funny thing was, when I finally got caught at it, they runged me for "ladder manipulation and collusion," (only runged me, and only one ID) and it took me all of a day to go from 20000 back to being ranked 3rd.

eh, you're a good little 'thing' now, but...

Yeah, well, if you say so. What's that saying? 51% sweetheart ...

WHO IS THIS JC? AND WHERE CAN I GET ONE? lol, is there like an NG rule stating you cant use programs to get bp's? or is it already illegal to have devises like it anyways?? you must explain...

Yes it's illegal. JC got too full of himself and made a program that auto-voted for users. He claimed it was to point out a loophole in the voting. IMO the way to point out a loophole is to e-mail liljim, as we've done here. He distributed it and a lot of people used it. A lot of people got busted down to 0XP citizen for using it. The basis was that it read the html that gave the author's BA on UJ flash as you mouseover. IIRC if it read a C+ or better it voted to save it, and if it was D+, F+, or a new author, voted to blam it. Maybe it was B+ and higher it saved ~shrug~

ST...I love those links in your profile. Good for a quick laugh!

At 11/4/04 08:04 AM, RedCircle wrote: ST...I love those links in your profile. Good for a quick laugh!

Starship, I meant to say signiture (not profile) :-X

At 11/4/04 05:03 AM, RedCircle wrote:
I'll see ya tomorrow. You all take care, and I'll be "chipper" later, I promise.

No worries :)

"Yes sir, I would like the Triple Cheeseburger, Large Fries, Small Vanilla Milkshake, and 2,000 Saves!" ^_^

Grats =)

At 11/4/04 06:11 AM, BonusStage wrote:
Also Ya_Ya and fixit are easily not the same person, since the program (assuming Ya_Ya is one too) that YY uses wouldn't be as good AT ALL, because of the fact that he gain a lot of points yes, but I, MPA, and Denvish have beat him

A "smart" cheater would have known from the beginning to get a lot, but not enough to stand out too much. Maybe he's simply learned ... or it's someone who didn't need to get taught?

At 11/4/04 07:12 AM, StarshipTrooper wrote:

At 11/4/04 06:11 AM, BonusStage wrote: Fact is that that estimate isn't an exaggeration :\

Yup, but I am sure Newgrounds will do something about it. Its not like they are not aware of this problem. If you can call it a problem.

It's not a problem and I doubt they'll do anything to "fix" it. The only "fix" would be to add more levels, which is utterly meaningless.

Reposted:

Levels are arbitrary markpoints that have absolutely no bearing on NG. Trying for a new level keeps people motivated by giving them short term goals to attempt to achieve. Gaining a level does nothing but give you a new BBS icon. Consider the following:

When you are born, your parents are 20.
When you are 5, your parents are 25, and you are 20% of your parents' age.
When you are 10, they are 30, you are 33% of their age.
When you are 20, you are 50% of their age.
When you are 40 you are 67% of their age.
When you are 60, you are 75% of their age.
When you are 80, you are 80% of their age.

Your percentage of their age continuously increases, yet at no time are you ever closer than 20 years younger. Your daily increases in base voting power are an identical situation. You constantly increase your percentage of the level 30(s) total, but, unless they miss a deposit, you will never close the actual gap in experience points.

(Level 30 XP - 400)/21 = level split

((Target level - 9) * level split) + 400 = level requirement

More levels increases the denominator of 21, but does exactly nothing else.

This has happened a couple of times before, and I'm wondering why. Once was that dickelodeon crap, but Wade or whoever at least dropped a not on it saying that they forced it to pass. Two other times I've see flash come out of judgment with scores well below the 1.60 required to pass ... like not that they passed and got voted down, but had under 210 votes and were already under 0.50. This week's turd came out of judgment with a 0.25.

Anyone know what's up with this shit?

At 11/4/04 08:03 AM, D0GMA wrote:

All accounts = over 65k BP. Once I stall this one I can get back to work.

Why do you need this much??? Explain.... ;-)

Grats to anyone...

At 11/4/04 08:43 AM, Snowy_Beast wrote: Why do you need this much??? Explain.... ;-)

My VP with 30,000 BPs = My VP with 100,000 BPs

It's handy to have spare VP laying around when I want to do things like keep Error from getting turd.

Hmm, that program you mentioned, how did Wade or Liljim find out who were using it ? Was this the program used to vote on all the under judgement animations/games when they upped the votes to 250 or 300, you know anyway. Just interested i guess. I remember there being an atou voter out there, but just not when it was. I was wondering if theres any links you would know of that i could catch up on this interesting little story. I havent been this interested in a long while.

Catch up time. Hearty congrats to:

IM_KOOL_R_U - 9.0 VP
BonusStage - 5000 posts
ShittyKitty - 1000 NG days
Qwoxyl - 19000 BP no money available, sorry
Slightly_Crazy_Dude - 8888 posts. RC beat me to the screenshot by cheating. BIG FAT CHEATER!!!
-TRA- - 2000 exp, 1300 posts
ramagi - 48000 BP (did I say that already?)
Bila - 38000 BP (ditto)
Snowy_Beast - 3500 BP
JerkClock - 2000 protects
dr1zztt - Level 10
DRD1982 - EG Sergeant Major
RedCircle - 2000 saves
Rio_MacHargintar - for being honest

Sorry not feeling terribly talkative atm so I'll just say well done bbl