At 8/20/04 08:12 PM, BonusStage wrote: pettyness

Let me go now!!!!

At 8/20/04 06:29 PM, tom_s00 wrote: well i hope to be able to proove myself and in the future become a member.

As long as you don't mind waiting, and post good things here often, you will probably become a member.

But when I say "don't mind waiting" I mean it.
I have been posting here for about seven months, along with a few other people, and we are not yet members.
They add one knew member every few months are so.

Post here to enjoy yourself, not just to become a member.

Mike

At 8/20/04 08:12 PM, BonusStage wrote:

At 8/20/04 08:10 PM, Dire_Wolf9 wrote: I know, I just didn't pay attention to that.

Thanks!

So basically, what you are trying to say to him is, sukmehwang *moves hand up and down*

What the heck is that supposed to mean, I don't think that's what I meant!?

What kind of error message is that?
P.S. I just like to use screenshots! That way people have more proof that it's real!

At 8/20/04 10:25 PM, BonusStage wrote:

At 8/20/04 10:20 PM, Dire_Wolf9 wrote: What the heck is that supposed to mean, I don't think that's what I meant!?

its a saying that i just recently learned, sort of a my school only thing, just my quote of the week i guess

What does that mean? And do you change your sig pic every week with your quote?

At 8/20/04 07:42 PM, Dire_Wolf9 wrote:

At 8/20/04 07:39 PM, Dire_Wolf9 wrote: I remamber, don't worry, and yes I do like them!

Remamber* ha caught that before BonusStage!

Remember* ha caught that before the both of you!

At 8/20/04 09:18 PM, Baron_Von_Bad_Guy wrote: I have been posting here for about seven months, along with a few other people, and we are not yet members.

Haha, if that were me, I'd be taking a hint. Whether that hint was intentionally implied or not is a different matter...

I was accepted in in a little over a month (I lost my accurate count when I changed my profile message and deleted the back up. Oops). This place was even less populated than it is now, so I had no compeition. If I did, I don't remember them.

Now that I think about it, seven months is harsh. You sure are dedicated Baron.

At 8/20/04 10:26 PM, Dire_Wolf9 wrote: What kind of error message is that?

There have been a lot of users complaining about not being able to use the text search feature of the BBS, so liljim has personalised the error message a bit more in order to stop most of them. Would you rather a "Error: text search is disabled. Please go back and try again" message?

At 8/20/04 10:29 PM, FlGMENT wrote:

At 8/20/04 07:42 PM, Dire_Wolf9 wrote:

At 8/20/04 07:39 PM, Dire_Wolf9 wrote: I remamber, don't worry, and yes I do like them!

Remamber* ha caught that before BonusStage!

Remember* ha caught that before the both of you!

Actually no you didn't, I tried to correct it, but I had already 4 posts so I had to wait "approximately 23 minutes" the messege I wanted to post was "Darn! Remember*, there I think I got it!"

At 8/20/04 10:26 PM, Dire_Wolf9 wrote: What kind of error message is that?
P.S. I just like to use screenshots! That way people have more proof that it's real!

The User Profile feature and text based BBS searches were both disabled due to the drain they made on the DB resources. Think about it ... you can type in 3 characters and have the BBS text search spit out every entry with that combination in them. Even if it's an entire quote you are tyring to find, it still has to read through all of the posts to find it. Although less exstensive, the User Profile feature was in a similar boat, having to read 300k+ user names (at the time it was disabled) to generate your answers.

All of the hardware and software upgrades they have done, and will be doing, have made it possible that these functions may return. There's a big hardware upgrade due in September and James is gearing up to prep for that rather than trying to implement any new features. Sometime late fall/early winter is likely the best "hope" for either (both?) to return.

At 8/20/04 10:52 PM, BonusStage wrote:

At 8/20/04 10:36 PM, D0GMA wrote: due to the drain they made on the DB resources.

May i inquire as to what a DB resource is?

The quick answer is to run a highly intensive graphics program on your PC. Minimize it. Run a search for all *.txt files on your system. Both processes suffer as your computer tries to do both. Eventually it accomplishes both tasks, but it does them poorly.

Warning: gross overgeneralizations in progress Danger Will Robinson Danger

All systems are finite and semi-autonomous. Most virii work by overloading all available resources. As the normal allocation of resources is chewed up, more processing is "borrowed" from other systems until there's nothing left that it is allowed to borrow ... then you get your crash. The searches were a non-virus form of that.

There's a limited number of gateways into, and out of, any system, which are historically the biggest problem with interacting with any system. Every time you communicate, your coding of what to do (be it an e-mail, uploading an image, whatever) is chopped up into little bits. Each of those then select the route that, at the millisecond they are looking, is the fastest way to get where it's going. Once there, all the little bits use the code that was added to them to figure out how they are supposed to fit back together. Then they line up at the gateways with everyone else's actions to get into the server to get what you want done.

Once they get IN, the server chops them up again as needed, and processes the action(s). The response (usually just the next page loading) then has to stand in line at another gateway trying to get out and then goes through the same process trying to get back to you.

NG had the problem that everything went through the same gateways. You'd have to try and vote (10-30 seconds each) 2-8 times to get a vote queued up "just so" to get it processed. DB searches used those same gates and the same servers as the rest of NG. If the answer (or vote) glitched, and you went to repeat it, you just added to the problem by drawing on more processing. Since the total number of actions that can be processed is limited, when you shift resources to one, they are not able to be used by something else.

The obvious, and most vital, concern for NG was to make the Portal run smoothly. The easy answer was to sacrifice features that use a lot of resources, but aren't inherently vital to its operation. Since the BBS searches are now limited to searching for topic names and authors, it only has to read through ~120k topic names or ~560k user names it is done much more quickly than searching through ~2.3M posts looking for a word. Since it's done more quickly, that processing is then freed up for the next action that much sooner, etc.

Ugh i barely find the need to use the search *pfeh*

The bonus to the old search was that, by my quoting you above, any search for that word would spit both of our replies out. Most typically it was used by people trying to find out in what threads their name had come up. It's how Bevin found the BP list lol I mentioned that she had ranked up to Captain and a day later she had found the thread.

At 8/20/04 11:38 PM, BonusStage wrote: but wouldn't it only slow down YOUR own computer if its you searching for something in the text search.

It slows down your computer while it locks up waiting for an answer. The thing you are forgetting is the other computers that are doing the search for your computer. You are only stalled while you wait for those computers to tell you the answer. While the servers slow down trying to find results for you, everything else they are supposed to be doing (showing flash to someone, loading a BBS page, etc.) also slows and everything they are doing slows you down even further in return.

Even if your computer had direct access to the DB, the only way you could search through it without affecting anyone would be to download it in its entirety and search through those file ON your computer ... which neglects the fact that simply downloading that volume of information would slow everything down while it tried to give it all to you.

Firstly Bevin isssss???

Bevin is the name of a user who found the BP thread by typing Bevin into a BBS text search. She's since gone essentially inactive.

Secondly i get that much, so that means that some people used to use the text just to see if their names had come up recently?

I don't know that that's the case, but I started thinking of it that way when she mentioned that was how she found the BP thread.

In case anyone is curious about the recent election results I've e-mailed both spancker and the winner to find out what's taking so bloody long. I received an e-mail from the winner today and he said he'd post in here as soon as his internet problems were solved. spancker hasn't replied yet (he's probably still reading the e-mail I sent him haha). I also jumped ahead of Crono- a few minutes ago to take over the number 4 spot on the top 50 list. Looking at the point gap I have to cover if I want a shot at catching ramagi or gfox makes me sick to my stomach.

At 8/21/04 12:59 AM, Recon_Rebel wrote: I also jumped ahead of Crono- a few minutes ago to take over the number 4 spot on the top 50 list.

awesome. i should go change my sig now for that and the VP update.

Good luck on trying to pass either Gfox or ramagi ( fixit should be easy.. as long as the robot stays dead)

At 8/21/04 01:43 AM, Crono- wrote:

At 8/21/04 12:59 AM, Recon_Rebel wrote: I also jumped ahead of Crono- a few minutes ago to take over the number 4 spot on the top 50 list.

Good luck on trying to pass either Gfox or ramagi ( fixit should be easy.. as long as the robot stays dead)

Thanks a lot Crono-. My main concern now isn't catching ramagi or gfox but trying to maintain the variable point buffer between Bila and myself. If and when I decide to take my vacation (I've taken only 6 days off in almost 2 years, so I'm due) I want a huge point gap between myself and whoever happens to be behind me at the time. Getting someone reliable to deposit for me shouldn't be a problem.

Hey Recon_Rebel, i seppose you noticed it (duhh) but i see you are few days from level 18. cheers :D

At 8/21/04 12:59 AM, Recon_Rebel wrote: I also jumped ahead of Crono- a few minutes ago to take over the number 4 spot on the top 50 list. Looking at the point gap I have to cover if I want a shot at catching ramagi or gfox makes me sick to my stomach.

Very well done Recon. So as far as humans go, it's ramagai, gfox, and Recon. Sounds a bit weird because it happened all of a sudden. I think we all can thank the portal for shooting out a plethora of submissions all week, raising our daily averages.

I'm Level 25!

At 8/21/04 02:11 AM, innphernoe wrote: I'm Level 25!

whoa! you've reached the level icon that i really want. congrats innphernoe!!!

At 8/21/04 02:11 AM, innphernoe wrote: I'm Level 25!

Hot damn, you magnificant bastard. That's my favorite level of them all. Congratulations on your prestigious level.

At 8/21/04 02:11 AM, innphernoe wrote: I'm Level 25!

Now im finally gonna post that (the third time lol):

I personally think that level 25 looks a lot more spiffier than the level 30 level icon. The detail of the glove really makes it look like gold.

At 8/21/04 02:14 AM, MPA wrote:

At 8/21/04 02:11 AM, innphernoe wrote: I'm Level 25!

Nice work innphernoe. Holy shit! I was audibly pronouncing your name and finally figured out what it means. ** kicks self **

Hot damn, you magnificant bastard. That's my favorite level of them all. Congratulations on your prestigious level.

I think the level 25 icon is one of the most popular out there MPA. It's my favorite too. I may be roughly 6 years from reaching the gold gauntlet (ugh) but I should be upgrading to silver in about a week. That's a consolation prize I can live with.

A big congrats to innphernoe, reaching level 25 takes forever and it's also a good looking icon.

At 8/21/04 12:59 AM, Recon_Rebel wrote: In case anyone is curious about the recent election results I've e-mailed both spancker and the winner to find out what's taking so bloody long. I received an e-mail from the winner today and he said he'd post in here as soon as his internet problems were solved.

If anyone else wants to know, the problem was a broken fibre optic cable that aand it took several hours for the internet connection to come back. And the winner is me!
Member get!
W00T!
I would like to thank my parnets, friends and the other Wi/Ht members, you all did a terrific job and so on and so forth. For those who didn't get in, just remember there's next time. And that I can vote for one of you.

I also jumped ahead of Crono- a few minutes ago to take over the number 4 spot on the top 50 list. Looking at the point gap I have to cover if I want a shot at catching ramagi or gfox makes me sick to my stomach.

It's quite a jump but you can do it. Congrats for getting #4.
One thing, the e-mail you sent was at 4:35AM in my timezone. So you sent that at 2:35PM in grounds time, when I couldn't exactly do anything, since I was asleep. So in future, remember that when a new grounds day starts, it's 2PM here.

At 8/21/04 02:44 AM, Qwoxyl wrote: And the winner is me!
Member get!
W00T!
I would like to thank my parnets, friends and the other Wi/Ht members, you all did a terrific job and so on and so forth. For those who didn't get in, just remember there's next time. And that I can vote for one of you.

Congratulations Qwoxyl, it's been a funny 24 hours watching you and spancker talk to eachother here about emailing and such, as I'm guessing it was for the other members just wanting to say, "For the love of God Qwoxyl, you are our newest member." You'll be a good addition. You're helpful, mature, and funny at times. Also, you're not "lolwtf omfg ROFL" annoying and what have you. Welcome aboard.

At 8/21/04 03:20 AM, MPA wrote: Congratulations Qwoxyl,

Thanks.

it's been a funny 24 hours watching you and spancker talk to eachother here about emailing and such, as I'm guessing it was for the other members just wanting to say, "For the love of God Qwoxyl, you are our newest member."

Yeah, I thought it was about the election, but for some reason it never crossed my mind that I had won. Probably because I didn't even think I was nominated. The only time I was mentioned for anything other than the usual stuff was spancker's post.

You'll be a good addition. You're helpful, mature, and funny at times.

That's nice of you to say that. It will brighten my so far crappy day until someone will evenutally say "funny AT TIMES".

Welcome aboard.

Glad to be there.

At 8/21/04 02:31 AM, Recon_Rebel wrote: I think the level 25 icon is one of the most popular out there MPA. It's my favorite too.

I still think the level 16 icon is the best.

If only they had a gold version of it too...

If only.

At 8/21/04 04:09 AM, TheJoe324 wrote: I still think the level 16 icon is the best.

If only they had a gold version of it too...

If only.

Wow that looks cool!
Level 13 gold can be cool aswell....

Yes, congratulations Qwoxyl!!!

I knew you were going to be the one inducted, with all that e-mail volleying and so forth.

I will be adding you to the Wi/Ht vs Mod list tomorrow.

At 8/21/04 01:43 AM, Crono- wrote:

At 8/21/04 12:59 AM, Recon_Rebel wrote: I also jumped ahead of Crono- a few minutes ago to take over the number 4 spot on the top 50 list.

awesome. i should go change my sig now for that and the VP update.

Awesome?! ...

Good luck on trying to pass either Gfox or ramagi ( fixit should be easy.. as long as the robot stays dead)

Urgh... good luck?! Apparently you've got it in your head that being passed on the top 50 list equals GOOD or something, as you're pleased about being passed, and wishing the same for me and ramagi and all, but... heh. Well, I think it's really neither. But it's something I'd prefer to avoid, at least in the near future. I wouldn't mind getting into a back-and-forth situation with ramagi, however. The last time I had one of those was with alexsmolik and chaotic1, back in the 7000-8000 b/p range... I miss that kind of competition. ;_;

Anyway, I'll just say good luck to Recon on passing fixit, but hell no am I gonna wish him good luck in passing me and ramagi. heh. #;-}>

And congrats to both you, him, and Joe for just plain having tons of b/p and being so high on the list, whoever's passing whomever on any given day.

At 8/21/04 03:20 AM, MPA wrote:

At 8/21/04 02:44 AM, Qwoxyl wrote: And the winner is me!
Member get!
W00T!
I would like to thank my parnets, friends and the other Wi/Ht members, you all did a terrific job and so on and so forth. For those who didn't get in, just remember there's next time. And that I can vote for one of you.

Congrats, Qwoxy. Yes, that's right, Qwoxy. It's my new nickname for you. Pronounced Kwahhhkkk-zeee, you see. Ummmm hmmm. #;-}>

Congratulations Qwoxyl, it's been a funny 24 hours watching you and spancker talk to eachother here about emailing and such, as I'm guessing it was for the other members just wanting to say, "For the love of God Qwoxyl, you are our newest member." You'll be a good addition. You're helpful, mature, and funny at times. Also, you're not "lolwtf omfg ROFL" annoying and what have you. Welcome aboard.

Well, I wasn't sitting around looking at all the silliness in here, but I replied to spancker's e-mail from two days ago or whenever exactly with a "I'll update the memberlist later tonight" comment and he e-mailed back with "NO! DON'T CHANGE IT! IT'S IMPORTANT!" which made me go WTF?!?!?!?!?!? IMO, conducting invitations via e-mail is a baaaad idea. The BBS is much more quick, secure, and why on earth should an invite be in secret, anyway? I guess spancker was thinking that if Qwox didn't want to join for whatever reason, then the second place would then be asked, but by that happening here, the second place guy would know he was the second choice. But whatever, anyone who knows they were being voted on possibly already knows they lost to Qwoxyl now, so... BLEH!

Anywho, I'm dealing with my own sense of frustration:

Thank you for your deposit, gfoxcook!
You now have 6,720 experience points.
You need 3 more to get to level 17.

I love leveling up... yet I hate leaving 16 behind. Oh well, it was inevitable. And tomorrow, the day finally comes.

My main alt is at 13 right now. Perhaps when he gets to 16 and is almost to 17 (yeah, in like 2 years), I'll stop depositing for awhile to keep him there. Heh.

At 8/21/04 04:19 AM, RedCircle wrote: Yes, congratulations Qwoxyl!!!
I will be adding you to the Wi/Ht vs Mod list tomorrow.

Good job on that. I get to bring the Wi/Ht stats down for everything except for the number of blam points. The exp rank goes up and the b/p rank also goes down, but in the b/p case it's good. I've got a lot of work to do.

At 8/21/04 05:24 AM, gfoxcook wrote:

At 8/21/04 03:20 AM, MPA wrote:

At 8/21/04 02:44 AM, Qwoxyl wrote: And the winner is me!

Congrats, Qwoxy. Yes, that's right, Qwoxy. It's my new nickname for you. Pronounced Kwahhhkkk-zeee, you see. Ummmm hmmm. #;-}>

Thanks, and I will call you gfoxy. Or not Q_Q.

Congratulations Qwoxyl, it's been a funny 24 hours watching you and spancker talk to eachother here about emailing and such,

Qwox

Shortening my name? Again!?!
But seriously, while the intentions were good, I agree that the e-mail idea was a bad idea. One thing, has anyone ever turned down the invite before?

Anywho, I'm dealing with my own sense of frustration:

Thank you for your deposit, gfoxcook!
You now have 6,720 experience points.
You need 3 more to get to level 17.

I love leveling up... yet I hate leaving 16 behind. Oh well, it was inevitable. And tomorrow, the day finally comes.

That level 16 icon is a favourite for many and now you get to reach a hand level again. At least you're getting closer to all the good levels.

My main alt is at 13 right now. Perhaps when he gets to 16 and is almost to 17 (yeah, in like 2 years), I'll stop depositing for awhile to keep him there. Heh.

You mean my main will pass your alt one day? But it sounds like something Baron would do to keep the pipe level if he deposited for his alt.