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The Reason Thread

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Response to The Reason Thread 2005-07-15 13:23:03


obsolete, eh? you better figure out where you're getting your stuff from.

anyways, like i said, this is a thread for Reason program users and for people who otherwise have questions/interests about Reason. this isn't a thread to argue over Reason vs. Acid or whatnot...let's try to keep it relevant here.

cheers an g'day.

-Ted Johnston

Response to The Reason Thread 2005-07-15 17:16:40


every music program that ppl use on here is great reason FL or Acid wuteva u use they all have goid points and bad points but everyone can make good music on each program
stop bitchin at each other and get along thas the reason y the audio portal hasn't got big because artists are too busy arguing like bitches about which program is better

fuck that and get along all the programs are good
so shut the fuck up about which is better


don't hate me because i make hip hop i ain't gonna say nothing i let my music speak for itself

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Response to The Reason Thread 2005-07-15 19:17:05


At 7/15/05 05:16 PM, Poetic_Reven wrote: ...

i agree with you dude, but again...that's not what this thread is for...uhh, yeah.

anyone tried the Reason 3.0.3 update yet? any bugs or whatnot? hahaha...i'm always hesitant with Propellerhead updates.

coolness. cheers an g'day.

-Ted Johnston

Response to The Reason Thread 2005-07-15 22:56:41


I use reason and Fl the stringz on reason are breath takin it's crazy


don't hate me because i make hip hop i ain't gonna say nothing i let my music speak for itself

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Response to The Reason Thread 2005-07-16 03:06:07


Is this thread meant for getting answers or something?
Can anyone in here explain exactly what gating is? Can you provide some examples of what happens?


Audio | Alter | It sounds like a fire hydrant went off in an old folks home with screaming babies field recorded, glitched, and spontaneously played back.

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Response to The Reason Thread 2005-07-16 03:18:39


Reason 3.0 is the coolest program ever!
I wish they would had some programmable I/O-like options though, instead
of just the given waveforms in the synthesizers.
Also, the 'transporter' I find somewhat lacking, compared to other
programs.

Gating is like an on / off switch, but also includes 'amount'. For example,
if you connect a drum kit's Gate Out to a synthesizer's Gate, whenever
the drum kit makes a sound the synthesizer will also make a sound.
Or, if you connect the gate of a Matrix (a patternbased sequencer) ,
the "Gate / Amount" field (at the bottom of the Matrix) controls the amount
that gets "gated" to the synthesizer.

I know it sounds a bit confusing... there are some good tutorials and
samples on the Propellerheads website Propellerheads Site .

Hope this helps, though!

~ Ratatosk.

Response to The Reason Thread 2005-07-16 14:07:08


At 7/16/05 03:06 AM, JonH2O wrote: Is this thread meant for getting answers or something?
Can anyone in here explain exactly what gating is? Can you provide some examples of what happens?

this thread is just for discussing anything Reason related.

there were some pointless arguments on the front page that jarrydn insisted on having in this thread, but that's done and over with now. but, it looks like he's annoyed all the actual Reason users away...so this thread is probably dead for the most part.

if you have any Reason related questions/discussions, this is the place. cheers an g'day.

-Ted Johnston

Response to The Reason Thread 2005-07-23 09:53:30


There´s a special edition on Computer Music Magazine that is 100% dedicated to Reason 3. Lots of good tip in there I´m tellin y´all... Go get a copy!

I belive my music will improve after reading that editition :)

/Rucklo


Wakka wakka

Response to The Reason Thread 2005-07-23 16:16:49


At 7/23/05 09:53 AM, Rucklo wrote: ...

i know, i've been trying to get my hands on one of 'em too. it also comes with a CD with some special refills i believe...

the synths in Reason are amazing...if you go into the 3.0 demo folder, there's this one song (Arithmatrick, i believe) that was completely made with Reason synths, drums and all! no samples! craziness...

well, that is all. cheers an g'day.

-Ted Johnston

Response to The Reason Thread 2005-07-24 05:23:48


At 7/23/05 04:16 PM, TedJohnston wrote:
At 7/23/05 09:53 AM, Rucklo wrote: ...
i know, i've been trying to get my hands on one of 'em too. it also comes with a CD with some special refills i believe...

the synths in Reason are amazing...if you go into the 3.0 demo folder, there's this one song (Arithmatrick, i believe) that was completely made with Reason synths, drums and all! no samples! craziness...

well, that is all. cheers an g'day.

-Ted Johnston

Go check out my song "Teknokrator" , there are only two samples in that song (hi-hat and snare), everything else is made on 2 malströms and one subtractor(the baseline).
I never saw that song ur talking bout on that cd though...

/Rucklo


Wakka wakka

Response to The Reason Thread 2005-07-25 14:40:25


I've just got Reason3.0 and am starting to mess with it. I was wondering if anyone can help me solve a little problem I have.
I have a Cd full of .wav samples of 8-bit/lo-fi beats that i would like to use in Reason. I stick the cd in, I create a new NN-XT Advanced Sampler in Reason and i go to find the afore-mentioned loops. When i open up the directory where the loops are, nothing is there. I dont understand why is .wav not the right format?. Any help please, am I doin something fundementally wrong?

Response to The Reason Thread 2005-07-25 14:58:14


Take a look to the right, where the sampler thingy is located (a keyboard or some shit like that is visual). There is where you open up your .wav the other open-folder is for some other kind of sample thingy, or like some "samplecollection" where many of the keys usually have been filled up with samples. I´m not very good at using the samplers myself, I allmost never use the NNXT, simply cause I never took the time to learn it :P

If i´m OL, just ask me stuff bout reason mate! :)

/Rucklo


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Response to The Reason Thread 2005-07-26 03:12:32


yes, there are two places to load files on the sampler. the first place is where you can load a premade patch that has all the samples with key assignments, settings, etc. the second place is where you load the actual samples.

hope that helps. cheers an g'day.

-Ted Johnston

Response to The Reason Thread 2005-07-26 10:57:07


I've got love for Reason I used in in some of my more serious songs (not the ones I submit here) it definatly comes in handy and I would take it over Acid or FL anyday. I can't say it's my favorite audio app but it's still great.

Response to The Reason Thread 2005-07-26 20:55:47


hey, i totally get what you're saying. i wasn't really referring to you directly anyhow (although alot of people certainly took it out of context), i was more referring to the lazy people out there ^_-

i still think that the most powerful method would be to use all these programs together. just my thoughts. cheers an g'day.

-Ted Johnston

Response to The Reason Thread 2005-07-27 14:22:21


At 7/25/05 02:40 PM, monkeybullman wrote: I've just got Reason3.0 and am starting to mess with it. I was wondering if anyone can help me solve a little problem I have.
I have a Cd full of .wav samples of 8-bit/lo-fi beats that i would like to use in Reason. I stick the cd in, I create a new NN-XT Advanced Sampler in Reason and i go to find the afore-mentioned loops. When i open up the directory where the loops are, nothing is there. I dont understand why is .wav not the right format?. Any help please, am I doin something fundementally wrong?

take a look at this picture. First you probably want to save all of your sounds onto your computer (maybe). Make a new NN-XT device, then click the arrow, and then load a sample. A new file will come up under G samples. You can doo that as many times as you want. The long bar spanning uner the keys is what keys respond to the sound. So, if you want to move a sound father down the piano, make sure and rotate the root key knob accordingly so you'll keep its pitch.

If you want to load another sample, make sure and deselect the previous one, otherwise it will override it. =)

The Reason Thread


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Response to The Reason Thread 2005-07-27 14:51:13


Cheers mate, that's very useful, thnx to evryone else too:D

Response to The Reason Thread 2005-07-31 08:23:41


I'm havin trouble rewiring, and its driving me mad. I do what the instructions say in Acid Pro 5, but firstly

Where hell is channel one and two?

Secondly, i insert them and it does nothing.

I want to be able to use the synths i've used in reason and mix n master in acid pro, as thats the programme i'm best with, but i get nothing when i press the play button in acid, what do i do?

Response to The Reason Thread 2005-07-31 22:02:27


i'm not too knowledgable about Rewire stuff...but from what i remember, you have to start-up Reason after you start-up the program that it's going to Rewire to...if i'm not mistaken, that's how you do it with all Rewire progs? start the slave prog after the primary?

anyways...about the routing problem, if you flip the rack around by hitting 'Tab' and then scroll up to the very top, you should see the output channels. usually only 1 and 2 will be used and they would be connected to your main mixer or a Mastering Suite Combinator, or anything of the like.

usually, the other ones are used with external audio interfaces for full 5.1 channels or even more if you're feeling crazy. the most i ever use is 3, two for a stereo out and the third for a separate 'click' track. the reason being, when i use Reason live, it's usually along-side a band which means the drummer would need the click...but yeah, that's a whole 'nother arena.

anyways, that top module should help you with any Rewire routing problems you're having. hope that helps! cheers an g'day.

-Ted Johnston

Response to The Reason Thread 2005-08-01 07:17:48


Thanks for the tips, i've not tried again yet but i will at some point.

Response to The Reason Thread 2005-08-01 15:42:05


At 7/23/05 09:53 AM, Rucklo wrote: There´s a special edition on Computer Music Magazine that is 100% dedicated to Reason 3. Lots of good tip in there I´m tellin y´all... Go get a copy!

I belive my music will improve after reading that editition :)

/Rucklo

You're so right, i read an article about Malström in there that taught me using the true HARDCORE power of it. I was so impressed i signed up for a year of the magazine:)


I HAS MYSPACES

__^^ check it ^^__

Response to The Reason Thread 2005-08-01 18:03:21


Cool man. It´s an awsome mag indeed, and that special edition was rreally something, yeah? :D

/Rucklo


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Response to The Reason Thread 2005-08-08 11:25:29


What the hell is polyphony? What does it do?

I understand the literal meaning - more than one voice, but i need some context.

Response to The Reason Thread 2005-08-08 14:12:09


Reason is perfect for classical/orchesteral pieces. The fact all the included soundbanks are duty free, and there are so many others available make it perfect for the job, even if not to publish your composition, but only to hear what it would sound like if it was actually played as it should be.

As for me, I love reason, but i havnt composed a single song complely on it. This is mostly because of the latancy issues between the midi surfaces and the actual program due to what it has to do to make the sound. I compose all my sounds on cubase sx3 (which is another great program) then re-wire them across to reason, or if i'm in the mood, midi-import them. I wouldnt say reasons the best for purely making the music, but for making a compositions excelent, its perfect. You cant really put a midi track on the AP and get away with it. Trust me, i've tried.

Response to The Reason Thread 2005-08-08 19:42:14


At 8/8/05 02:12 PM, Khuskan wrote: ...

eh...i disagree with you on some parts of that.

one advantage with Reason is it's large sampled sound and loop database that comes free with the program...but this is hardly the program's main strong point. the true power between Reason is in it's synths. now, you're probably thinking at this point, 'WTF? the synths? graintable and subtraction? where's the modeling synthesis?' seriously...Reason's synthesizers are the most overlooked part of the program, and is where most of the true power of the program lies. i've heard some pros make songs using only the Subtractor synth (that's right, using Subtractor to make drum sounds!)...and it's crazy. the possibilities are endless with Reason's synths. now all Propellerhead needs to do is add Modeling Synthesis in version...oh, 5.0? hahaha.

At 8/8/05 11:25 AM, SpamWarrior wrote: What the hell is polyphony? What does it do?

I understand the literal meaning - more than one voice, but i need some context.

copy/paste from your other thread Spam:

actually...no.

polyphony designates how many notes you can have playing at once. so if you set the value to '1', then it can only play one note at a time...so that means if you drew in a two-note chord into the sequencer track, it would either play only one of the notes, or just completely ignore that input. so...you're probably asking now, 'well, how is that useful? why don't i just set it to the highest setting and never touch it?'

the reason that parameter can be useful is for releases and carryovers. let's say i have a bass sound in a Subtractor, and i want a nice resonating bass sound, but i don't want any of the notes bleeding over into each other. i would have a fairly moderate 'Release' setting to make the notes carry, but i would only set 'Polyphony' to '1', so that whenever an note plays, it cuts the previous note off.

get what i'm saying? hope that helps.

yeah...that's a short rundown of polyphony...

hmm...i guess all the Reason users aren't dead. cheers an g'day.

-Ted Johnston

Response to The Reason Thread 2005-08-09 04:52:45


At 8/8/05 07:42 PM, TedJohnston wrote:
At 8/8/05 02:12 PM, Khuskan wrote: ...
eh...i disagree with you on some parts of that.

the synths? graintable and subtraction? where's the modeling synthesis?' seriously...Reason's synthesizers are the most overlooked part of the program, and is where most of the true power of the program lies.

The synths are great, but i was talking about creating classical/orchesteral tracks and they dont really have a place there over samples :P

I used the synths a lot in some of my tracks, Subtractor mostly over malstrom. After all, reason is a soft synth. and a sequencer. and many other things. :O

Response to The Reason Thread 2005-08-09 19:12:30


well yes, i know Reason is great for any orchestral/classical stuff...it's probably the best i know for that genre...

but i'm saying that sampled sounds isn't Reason's only strength...and is by far not it's greatest strength.

many hardcore synth junkies usually overlook Reason's synths just 'cause they don't include Modeling Synthesis...n00bs. hahaha ^_- Propellerhead will probably incorporate Modeling Synthesis into Reason when its users will need it (if ever...probably somewhere around version 6.0 hahaha).

cheers an g'day.

-Ted Johnston

Response to The Reason Thread 2005-08-10 05:22:17


probably the best thing about reason is the fact that you're not stuck to a VST editor or a drop down menu of effects and such. You're free to make your own, plug things into other things in ways they should never be plugged, and make some seriously good sounds. It also teaches you how to use things which is useful. I've learnt more about synthesizers, effects modules and sequencers in reason than i did in the entire gcse music course.

Response to The Reason Thread 2005-08-10 08:39:53


I find that the most powerful tool for hardcore synths in reason must be malström.


I HAS MYSPACES

__^^ check it ^^__

Response to The Reason Thread 2005-08-10 08:46:57


hellspawn guitar 4 teh win <3