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Response to The Book Club 2005-07-21 19:40:49


At 7/19/05 09:33 AM, JackOfShadows wrote: To clear a few things up: Asimov didn't invent the word "robot", neither was he the first one to use it in the context we are used to. The word "robot" originates in a play by a Czech writer, Copec. The play told the story of a company which created robots. The word originates in the Czech word for "worker".

I am still inclined to think he used the word robot more in the context we know today and yes I heard of that Czech guy before. Asimov I think is more the true father of the word.

And I just finished One Flew Over the Cuckoos Net. I highly recomend it to anyone. It is probably one of my favorite books I have ever read and I have read a bitchload of books.

Damn shame Ken Kesey never made more books than he did. He is an incredible writer.

Response to The Book Club 2005-07-22 07:11:19


At 7/21/05 07:40 PM, FAB0L0US wrote:
I am still inclined to think he used the word robot more in the context we know today

As in a mechanical device created to do physical work? It just hjappenes to be exactly what the robots in Kopec's play were.

Asimov I think is more the true father of the word.

He did not create the word, thus he is not it's father.

Anyway, I started reading a book in by a Russian author, Alexander Mazin. It tells the story of an ex-soldier who served in the special forces. He somehow traveled in time (he just woke up and found himself in an unfamiliar place) back to the tenth century. His strength helps him very little in a world with it's own rules he doesn't know. The language is pretty slangy, which is great. It makes the book a lot more enjoyable.


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Response to The Book Club 2005-07-22 10:36:30


At 7/20/05 05:11 AM, Coop83 wrote:
On the contrary. I am enjoying reading it and I'm glad I stuck at reading Fellowship. If I hadn't, I'd have never revisited Two Towers. I'm suffering from a lack of time to read at the moment, so, even though it's going to take me long to read, I'm going to carry on enjoying it. I'm just pining slightly for the way that I can read a discworld book in a matter of hours, as opposed to weeks for a Tolkien.

Weeks?! Goddamn, thats a bit long, but i can tell your extracting every little peice of info you can, because your a cool cat ;)

Jack OfShadows is actually right, Asimov was the first person to use the word robotics, for what it is actually used today, so, he is credited for that.

Response to The Book Club 2005-07-22 14:22:14


At 7/22/05 10:36 AM, Slightly_Crazy_Dude wrote: Weeks?! Goddamn, thats a bit long, but i can tell your extracting every little peice of info you can, because your a cool cat ;)

Having the week off work just makes my reading patterns go AWOL. I've got no set rota, so I just try to get in a quick hour or two whenever I can.

Back to work on Monday, so that should sort things out.


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Response to The Book Club 2005-07-22 20:14:23


At 7/20/05 05:11 AM, Coop83 wrote: I'm just pining slightly for the way that I can read a discworld book in a matter of hours, as opposed to weeks for a Tolkien.

I might just get lynched here for saying this but I don't think I'll ever really get around to reading a Tolkien. For one thing, I'm just not really partial to the fantasy genre, and for another, if I'm a movie buff and the films bore me, there's no way in hell I'd ever be able to complete one of those books. If it's taking you months, Coop83, it'd take me years. Matter of preference, really. I like smaller, more character-based fiction. And the majority of people here appear to be the opposite. Besides, I like the idea of reading something that only a handful of people have read. There's a certain novelty to it. (All right, I'll stop with the bad book puns.) But the reason I like smaller, more character-based fiction has a lot to do with its application in daily life. I'll never be able to use a mental map of Middle Earth in the real world, but a story about things more commonplace -- what might seem to some as merely the mundane -- might yield certain insights that I'd be able to use. It gives me an opportunity to regard the world I live in from a different angle rather than separating from it entirely and embracing a new world altogether. But I'll come back to that in a minute. I've actually finished two books since I was here last but that's really no big accomplishment, seeing as how the number of pages read required to complete this seemingly-daunting task only amount to just a little over two hundred. Terry Griggs' "Rogues' Wedding" was only eighty or so pages to completion at the time and the novella I read after that was only a skimpy hundred and thirty. But I'm getting ahead of myself. Let's get back to "Rogues' Wedding".

As I mentioned before in a previous post here, "Rogues' Wedding" is by no means a terrible book, but it does pale in comparison to the other, much better-written, books I've read so far this year. Set in nineteenth century Ontario, "Rogues' Wedding" tells the tale of Grif Smolders who, terrified at the idea of consummating his marriage with his domineering newlywed wife, decides to bolt, trading a life of unwanted responsibility for the life of a free vagrant. But it doesn't end there. His scorned wife then decides to tail him in hot pursuit, culminating in the novel's climax of psychological warfare and, er, burning passion. There are many reasons that this book wasn't as good as it should have been, but for the sake of brevity, not to mention the author's ego, I shall limit myself to three. First of all, do any of you recall The Vancouver Sun's claim that "Tokyo Cancelled" was 'overwritten'? That criticism applies to "Rogues' Wedding" more than anything else in my mind. Where Dasgupta wrote with purpose, Griggs wrote for the sake of lengthening her prose. The metaphors she uses make little sense, such as when she compares a ship caught in a storm to [dramatic pause] "a paper ship" (p. 56), and frankly, there's just no need to describe a raging fire as "a sizzling hothead, a hotshot, too hot to hold" (p. 276) when you've already made your point much more eloquently by ironically describing it as "more consuming than consummate" (also p. 276), a much more clever play on words. Second, half the characters are stock characters. Fenwick Nashe, for instance, plays the age-old role of untrustworthy businessman willing to step on all the people around him in order to get ahead and Hugh, yet another unimaginative addition to the novel's motley crew of archetypes, bears a remarkable similarity to Chaucer's character of The Miller. An inability to create original, engaging characters has foundered more than one aspiring author. I'm honestly a little surprised that Griggs has gotten as far as she has. Finally, I don't understand what the main draw is between Mr. Smolders and his would-be wife. They have little to no compassion for each other, Grif's defining characteristic is ignorance and Avice, Grif's wife, seems to be a downright sadist. The only element making this novel readable is its rare moments of insight -- "There are none so wicked as represented; none so good as they should be." (p. 138) -- and its even rarer moments of genuine humour, such as Grif hearing Orion, but hearing O'Brien, and going on for the rest of the novel thinking of it as 'the Irish constellation'. Yet, the novel is a pleasant distraction. It's just that there's too much working against it for it to be classified as good. It's mostly the characters that I have a problem with. Without an attachment to the main players, it's difficult for the reader to spend a few vicariously-snatched hours in Grif Smolders' stolen shoes, which many readers are wont to do. I say pass on this one. There are better ways to spend your time. Sorry, Griggs.

Now, back to what I was saying about reading novels that give one a brand new perspective of the world. I just finished "Shopgirl", the 130-page novella by Steve Martin -- don't laugh. -- about Mirabelle, a young woman in her late twenties who, in the course of the book, becomes intimate with Jeremy, a 26-year-old libertine of only average intelligence, and a Mr. Ray Porter, whom just so happens to be about twice Jeremy's age. On the surface, "Shopgirl" seems to be another mediocre love triangle story told in 'chick lit' format, but it's actually one of the few so-called relationship stories I've read injected with a dazzling display of authenticity and intelligence. Obviously enough, "Shopgirl" is a character study, but Martin works beautifully with the material, constructing one complex character after another, each with their own set of admirable eccentricities. Take Jeremy, whose "view of the world is one that keeps his blood pressure low, sweeping the cholesterol from his relaxed, freeway-sized arteries" (p. 10). Similar excerpts dominate the first half of the book -- complete with, in my opinion, one of the funniest sex scenes ever written on page eighteen -- and several clever turns of phrase, such as a sex film actress being described as "down and going" (p. 56), add spice and variety to an already strong book. But it's the authenticity of the nature of Mirabelle and Ray's relationship that really make the novel worth reading. In short, the book analyzes the nature of all relationships from a true-to-life perspective.

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Response to The Book Club 2005-07-22 21:47:28


At 7/19/05 02:16 AM, biteme2514 wrote: -Joel-, I envy you. I envy you and your crazy book-a-day habit. It takes me weeks to finish a book, yet you seem to plow through them so effortlessly. Just so you know, there are lesser body parts that I'd part with just for that ability. I envy you.

The books I have posted reviews for are not ones that I am reading right now. However, they are ones that I have read since the beginning of 2005. So I read quite a bit, but work and social life have taken much of my NG/reading time. I did manage to finish Eragon this week and I will have a review as soon as I can write one.

That having been said, you don't remember me, do you? I knew you when you were still going by your old -Boondock_Drunk- alias. How the hell have you been? I haven't run into you in almost a year now on this here BBS.

Don't remember you? Of course I do and to tell you the truth I am surprised that you remember me. I have been well. And yeah it has almost been a year because I usually post on the general BBS and you on the C&C BBS. Right now I am off to see a movie. Catch you all later.

Response to The Book Club 2005-07-26 07:06:46


At 7/22/05 08:14 PM, biteme2514 wrote: I might just get lynched here for saying this but I don't think I'll ever really get around to reading a Tolkien.

We won't lynch you for saying that. (Well, I won't, but Ic an't vouch for SCD.) As far as I'm concerned, one of the joys of reading is that you get so much choice, you can read what you like.

For one thing, I'm just not really partial to the fantasy genre, and for another, if I'm a movie buff and the films bore me, there's no way in hell I'd ever be able to complete one of those books. If it's taking you months, Coop83, it'd take me years. Matter of preference, really. I like smaller, more character-based fiction. And the majority of people here appear to be the opposite. Besides, I like the idea of reading something that only a handful of people have read.

I'm into fantasy too. I'm big into Discworld and Anne McCaffrey's Dragons of Pern seies. Have you ever read Robert Rankin?


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Response to The Book Club 2005-07-26 07:55:13


Wow... I havent posted here in a while... I've been a little slow when it comes to reading lately... I finished the Harry Potter book in way less than a day and well... Meh... I think it could have been a lot better (i dont feel up to writing a review)...


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Response to The Book Club 2005-07-26 08:35:28


At 7/15/05 04:08 PM, Coop83 wrote: I'm THE authority on Pratchett around here.

Well, nice to meet you, then.

I believe him to be one of the funniest authors of the 20th and 21st centuries.

I fully agree with you on that point.

Ask me any question you'd like, and I'll try and give a decent answer.

Alright. What book in the discworld series comes after The Fantastic Light?

Response to The Book Club 2005-07-26 16:43:01


At 7/26/05 08:35 AM, Frostbreath wrote: Alright. What book in the discworld series comes after The Fantastic Light?

Well, there was no book after 'The Fantastic Light'. The Light Fantastic, his second Discworld Novel was followed by Equal Rites.

*swish*


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Response to The Book Club 2005-07-27 07:22:36


At 7/26/05 04:43 PM, Coop83 wrote:
At 7/26/05 08:35 AM, Frostbreath wrote: Alright. What book in the discworld series comes after The Fantastic Light?
Well, there was no book after 'The Fantastic Light'. The Light Fantastic, his second Discworld Novel was followed by Equal Rites.

Aw, crap, the Swedish title is so much different than the english one, so have no idea which one that is. Doesn't that suck bollocks?

*swish*

*swosh*

Response to The Book Club 2005-07-27 16:07:18


At 7/27/05 07:22 AM, Frostbreath wrote: Aw, crap, the Swedish title is so much different than the english one, so have no idea which one that is. Doesn't that suck bollocks?

Okay, Equal Rites was the one where Granny Weatherwax took a girl by the name of Esk to Ankh-Morpork to learn to be a wizard. This was because an old, dying wizard gave his staff to her, thinking she was an eighth son of an eighth son. Since she was a daughter, she was ridiculed by the wizards, but she wielded great power. Granny taught her some excellent basic witchcraft, giving us the best insight into her character.


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Response to The Book Club 2005-07-28 16:55:13


Well, Coop83, it looks like I know what I'm reading next. I just looked up Robert Rankin and honestly, I'm interested. I'll get around to it once I hop off this bandwagon that I'll be riding for the next month or so. I just finished Douglas Coupland's "Hey Nostradamus!" and a copy of "Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince" just made its way into my hands so I've started it. Six-hundred and seven more pages penned by Rowling. I hear it's better than the fifth one though, so that should keep me going. Just for the record, there's no way in hell I can finish the latest HP novel in one or two days like everyone else here. It'll take me a month. When I go to Hawaii mid-August for a week, Potter'll be coming with me. You know what that means. After this post, you guys won't be hearing from me in a month.

Now, on to the Coupland book. The thing is, where I live -- in New Westminster, BC which is just outside Vancouver -- Coupland's a pretty big deal just because he's our most well-known Vancouverite author. Yet, for some reason, I'd never thought to pick up a Coupland book until now. The only reason I did stemmed from the fact that I had just finished "Shopgirl", all the local bookstores were already closed and I somehow managed to find myself at a public library in Burnaby at eight o' clock at night. That, and most of my 'chick friends' (as they have now come to be called) were reading him at the time and recommended him to me. A Shannon, in particular. But anyways. "Hey Nostradamus!" is a book about spiritual crisis in the face of tragedy. The novel follows four characters over a span of fifteen years, each having their own struggles with God and misguided faith after a high school shooting shakes up a sleepy Vancouver neighborhood. Of course, by now, the high school shooting is somewhat of a cliché, thanks to endless media coverage and films like Bowling For Columbine and Elephant. (Also note DBC Pierre's "Vernon God Little", what I feel to be a much better book using a high school massacre as a backdrop.) And unfortunately, "Hey Nostradamus!" suffers as a result. Coupland is gifted in many aspects of writing; neologism, for one. Me and my girlfriend occasionally find ourselves creating imaginary characters between the two of us that only exist when the two of us are together and now we have a name for them: "fusion entities" (p. 151). But there are many reasons that I didn't enjoy this book nearly as much as I should have and here are all the reasons why. First of all, back to Coupland writing within a cliché. There are very few points in the book where Coupland actually breaks free of writing predictably. The main problem I have with the book is how weak the inciting event is. The massacre itself, the part of the book that's supposed to set everything in motion, is hopelessly dull. In an effort to elicit emotion from the reader, the narrators of the shooting keep bringing attention back to the students being shot and mentioning in passing that, say, one of them has a locker close by them or that one of them just so happens to be in their English class. However, this narration is done with a cool sense of detachment and very little emotional connection to the main event. Rather, the narrators will be talking about something else entirely taking place in the present, then jump back ten years with annoying phrases like "Back to the massacre." (p. 101) or "More about the massacre." (p. 63), which only serves to ruin whatever emotional impact that Coupland was trying to achieve. Also, at one point in the novel, it is revealed that "[a videotape] pretty much laid out what [the shooters] were going to do, how they were going to do it, and why -- the generic sort of alienation we've become all too familiar with during the 1990's." (p. 102). Distinct lack of creativity there. The story's stronger without it than with. I also have a problem with how all four characters narrating sound the same. Dead seventeen-year old girl sounds like mid-thirties stenographer sounds like aging father losing his faith sounds like late-twenties slacker. What kind of man on the other side of 60 would be saying things like "Reg was in La-La Land." (p. 235)? Furthermore, I get the sense that Coupland writes specifically for younger audiences. The spiritual epiphanies that the characters have are nothing new. Realizing that becoming religious allows converts to gain a new confidence but at the same time, forces them to lose compassion for people around them is an idea that most of us have already come to ourselves. But despite all this, it is obvious that Coupland understands more about human nature than his books would let on. At certain points in his writing, such as when one character tells another that she looks relaxed, "which is always a successful ploy, because it invariably relaxes the person you say it to." (p. 192), he demonstrates an amazing perceptual ability of how our minds work, and in the end, when all is said and done, the book's ending does have a strong impact on its reader, if only for the open ending. The book is meant to have us ask questions about our beliefs in contrast to the characters in the novel, but in this, it fails. Yet in creating a readable piece of fiction for young adults, Douglas Coupland has more than enough insight and intelligence to pull it off. I just didn't like it because none of it seemed new to me. But for other young adult readers, I can see why Coupland is such a draw. I just don't think I'll be reading too much more of him anytime soon. His writing seems too sterile for me.

See you all in a month. I know no one here cares about Harry Potter anyways, but I'll be ready to discuss it in detail soon enough. I'm really not expecting much, but hey, you have to stay on top of pop culture, right? Besides, who knows. I might be pleasantly surprised. Cheers.

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Response to The Book Club 2005-07-28 23:02:42


Eragon by Christopher Paolini (P. 497)

A poor farm boy, named Eragon, was out on his final hunt before the winter season when he finds a large, polished blue stone in the forest. He thinks of his luck with a precious rock that might have some value in the form of food for his family. But this thought is misplaced when the polished stone brings a dragon hatchling into the world. Soon Eragon falls into a world larger than the Empire he has grown up to know. Overnight his entire life is changed, and he will embark on an adventure beyond his wildest imaginations, with an old storyteller as his only source of guidance.

While this is a good book I have a few minor issues with it. First off, it is very evident at some places that Mr. Paolini started this book when he was fifteen years old. Parts of it seem a little childish at times (i.e. when he gives his dragon a name) and its idea of love parallels Lucas’s in the new trilogy.

Another issue I had with this book was that a reader can see several borrowed ideas from other fantasy novels (i.e. the way a person uses magic – see Ursula K. LeGuin). I also had problems with the idea that dragons never stop growing and can reach the size of mountains (although, as purely an idea or exaggeration would make it better).

Overall this book is rather enjoyable and is quick to grab one’s attention. It is also as easy and yet not too complex to read, so it should have a wide audience. On a side note, this book’s sequel should be out this August.

Response to The Book Club 2005-07-28 23:08:27


Blame the following on my Greek Mythology 101 Class.

Metamorphoses by Ovid (P. 364)

In this book, Ovid (43 BC - AD 17) creates a series of narrative poems from Greek mythology, Latin folklore, and legend to link them under a common theme. A harmonious order takes the place of a once chaotic universe; animals turn to stone; men and women become trees, stones, and stars. Ovid is a master of his vocation and his understanding of the human nature is surpassed by few individuals.

I would highly recommend this book to anyone who is interested in Greek mythology. However, a basic background of gods would be needed as Ovid uses the Roman names in place of the more well known Greek names.

Medea by Euripides (P. 43)

Once a powerful woman, Medea has been brought down by the betrayal of her husband, Jason. Now she seeks to harm Jason, without any thought of her own pain. One of the first depictions of divorce in literature, Medea still captivates audiences to this day.
What is seen as a dramatic script to most critics, was just bland and too over-dramatic for my tastes. While, it is a classic for the time it was written in, it falls flat with the newer generation because of Medea’s ‘struggles’ are seen as trivial (mainly since divorce is more common now).

Response to The Book Club 2005-07-29 04:03:58


At 7/28/05 04:55 PM, biteme2514 wrote: You know what that means.

Sunburn?

After this post, you guys won't be hearing from me in a month.

Oh, right. Have a good time then.

See, I told you you'd like the concept of Rankin. (I wrote a review for 'The Hollow Chocolate Bunnies of the Apocalypse' about 5-10 pages ago, maybe you'd be even more inspired to try it if you read that.)


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Response to The Book Club 2005-07-30 01:36:00


Okay maybe I do have a crazy love for books. Finished this one in a day:

Choke by Chuck Palahniuk (P. 293)

Victor Mancini is a hopeless anti-hero for our fanatical era. While he works at a colonial theme park in order to pay his bills, his salary does not cover the care for his elderly mother. So he comes up with a creative con: he pretends to choke on pieces of food at restaurants, then allows people to ‘save’ him, and these ‘heroes’ later send him money as they feel a certain responsibility for his well being. When he is not pulling this scam on people, Victor searches sexual addiction recovery workshops for action.

The reader of this book is fairly warned, as the first sentence states: “If you’re going to read this, don’t bother.” Choke is a novel that starts off as predictable and later slides into a work of art that has ingenious surprises popping out of the most unlikely of places. Nothing is as it seems in Victor’s world, and the only constant in his world is that there is no constant.

Choke is a book that makes one ponder the ideas of materialism and whether anything is worth… well… anything at all. A wonderful work of art that only Chuck Palahniuk can pull off, Choke is one of the most inspiring novels of the new millennia.

Response to The Book Club 2005-08-07 10:22:19


I've read two books since my last post, but since I don't think any of you would find them interesting I won't write any reviews.

Right now I'm reading God Emperor of Dune along with the Silmarillion. How am I reading two books at the same time? Why, that's easy. I used to do it all the time when I was 10-13. Well, since lately I've had to sit through a lot of long lines I need a book to pass the time. My Dune books are all paperback and so I needed a hardcover one. Silmarillion was gthe perfect book, since it's both long and hardcovered. So whenever I'm stuck in a line, I read the Sill, the rest of my time it's God Emperor.


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Response to The Book Club 2005-08-07 14:49:23


At 8/7/05 10:22 AM, JackOfShadows wrote: Right now I'm reading God Emperor of Dune along with the Silmarillion.

I find it hard to mix two fiction books at the same time, so I'm reading Two Towers through my breaks at work, plus any other spare time I'm having. Then, for about half an hour before bed, I thumb through 'McLaren' a book about the Formula One racing team. I'll also do things like read fiction related to my D&D roleplaying, as this functions in a seperate part of my brain to the rest of my reading flow.


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Response to The Book Club 2005-08-15 00:33:17


I really hope you guys enjoy this one because it took me the most time to do. I read this book before War of the Worlds, but I worked so long on this review it was just easiest to read and review the other as a sort of break.

A Canticle for Leibowitz by Walter M. Miller, Jr. [P. 338]

Although A Canticle for Leibowitz was published as a book in 1959, parts of it existed years before that. The first part, now known as ‘Fiat Homo’ {‘Let There Be Man} appeared in 1955 and was entitled ‘A Canticle for Leibowitz’. The second part, know as ‘Fiat Lux’ {Let There Be Light} was first published a year later under the title ‘And the Light Is Risen’. The conclusion to these stories was published in 1957 as ‘The Last Canticle’ (‘Fiat Voluntas Tua’ {‘Thy Will Be Done’}). These all appeared in The Magazine of Fantasy and Science Fiction.

Since this book is essentially three different books, and can really be read separately (although I suggest that the reader read all three stories together), I will review each own individually.

Fiat Homo (‘Let There Be Man’)
The Order to Leibowitz is awaiting New Rome’s judgment on whether or not their founder (Isaac Leibowitz) is to be canonized as a saint. It was this one man who, during the times of darkness after the Flame Deluge (the atomic war that spurred the world into a rugged radioactive wasteland) set out to preserve learning and texts from a generation bent on ignorance. For trying to save educational materials, Isaac Leibowitz was burn and hanged at the same time.

Many years later, monks of the New Catholic Church have followed Isaac’s example and tried to preserve and copy materials which would help future generations learn from the past. One such monk is Brother Francis who, in the Utah desert, has made a miraculous discovery (with the help of an old man). For while on his Lenten retreat, he has discovered relics of the founder of his order, among which are the blessed blueprint and the sacred shopping list. Brother Francis hopes that these articles can bring a shinning light into an age of ignorance. However, they only bring him contempt and misfortune.

Fiat Lux (‘Let There Be Light’)
Many years have passed since Brother Francis’s discovery of the ‘sacred’ documents, and there is a rumor of war. The king of Texarkana begins the first steps to unite the entire continent under his own flag. However, this provides the king’s cousin, Thon Thaddeo, with the perfect distraction to safely traverse through the plains, unharmed by the barbarians who make them their home.
What the Thon seeks is a treasure guarded by the monk’s of the order of Leibowitz. But how will the monk’s receive the cousin of a genocidal monster?

Fiat Voluntas Tua (‘Thy Will Be Done’)
604 years have passed since the king of Texarkana waged a dishonest war against his neighbors, and the world has risen to heights not seen since before the Flame Deluge. There are space ships, automobiles, and once again rumors of war engulf the entire planet. However, this time enemies now have the means to destroy entire cities in a single flash of light. Radiation begins to take its toll on citizens and the moral question of whether it is better to assist in the suicide of ‘doomed’ patients or to allow them to suffer and die.

*Note: this book is especially intriguing because Miller seems to be arguing against assisted suicide, yet he eventually kills himself before finishing the sequel to A Canticle for Leibowtiz.*

All three of these books are extremely good and Miller’s usage of Latin terms is excellent. Of course, Miller could not anticipate the effect that Vatican II would have upon the Catholic Church (which would remove Latin from mass). What I liked most about this book were two individual characters. First, was the character known as ‘the pilgrim,’ Benjamin, and Lazarus. Even though only one name appears in its own individual book, they all represent the same person.

It is thought that this person was based upon the medieval legend of the ‘wandering Jew.’ According to this legend, when Jesus was carrying the cross, he paused at the threshold of a house. The owner of the house told Jesus to move on and Jesus sadly replied, ‘You move on too, until I come again.’ The householder was then forced to wander the earth, undying, until Christ would come again. Much the same, the pilgrim is a mysterious and cynical man who is forever waiting for someone who he calls ‘the one.’

Another character who made this book especially enjoyable was the Poet from [I]Fiat Lux[/I]. The Poet is a cynical man, who gets on the monk’s nerves, and he owns a glass eye that he likes to play with. For example, he scares Thon Thaddeo by taking it out at the end of a fight between the two men, places it on the table, and says, ‘watch him carefully.’

Many critics have claimed that Fiat Homo is the best book, but I enjoyed Fiat Lux the most. This was because of the two great characters and their additions to the second story. Also, the second is the most evident in portraying the book’s overall theme of knowledge verses morality. On the whole this book is exceptionally written with a wonderful storyline. I recommend this book to everyone, but I would like to stress the importance of having the Latin translations handy. They are easy enough to find on the internet.

Response to The Book Club 2005-08-15 14:34:46


The War of the Worlds by HG Wells (P. 164)

A portrayal of aliens landing on English soil from the red planet in our own solar system, Wells creates an entirely new genre. The first novel to explore the possibilities of intelligent life from another planet, War of the Worlds has been the canon for all science fiction books to follow. The War of the Worlds is truly a classic that has stood the test of time ever since its first publication in 1898.

Although, this book is a classic HG Wells seems to have an impractical method to how people would react to an alien invasion. Since most novels would have people running away screaming or in pure hysterics. However, in this book the narrator sees a ‘meteor’ that crashes into earth and talks to all of his best buddies about it. Then when the ‘meteor’ turns into a giant machine with two aliens controlling it and a giant mirror that shoots flames which engulf a mass of people, the narrator runs home where he promptly has dinner with his wife. The next day, the narrator mingles with some soldiers and even hears about more ‘meteors’ turns killing machines that have landed. I don’t know about other people, but if I saw a group of people turned into charcoal I would probably find a payphone and call a psychiatrist or get out of town.

Some other things that might be a problem with modern readers is the fact that he runs away from the machines on a horse (because it is set in 1898). While this didn’t bore me, I do think that some people would be bored with a man fleeing a giant alien controlled armed with a flamethrower on steroids using only black beauty.

The book is suspenseful, but some paragraphs can seem a little drawn out or just plain dry. Though if you can get past that then the reader will find a book that was more than worth the time.

Response to The Book Club 2005-08-16 11:09:36


Yikes... Look at those long ass posts... I'm soo jealous... I'm currently reading Dracula by Bram Stoker... Great book... Maybe i'll make one of those long ass posts when im done reading it...


Thanks nightmareLeecher for the sig.

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Response to The Book Club 2005-08-18 17:54:23


I've got THE Hitchhiker's Complete Guide (all of the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy novels in one book!). It was worth every NIS I spent. I was supposed to only read the first novel and then lend the book to a friend. Instead, as soon as I finished the first one I read through half of te second. I just couldn't stop myself. The book is more than excellent. If any of you enjoy wierd/witty humor, you should read the book.

If you liked Monthy Python, you will like this book. Why? If I didn't know who the author is, I'd think the Monty Python wrote it. It is exactly what their movies and scetches would be like, if they were written on paper rather than acted out.


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Response to The Book Club 2005-08-19 01:16:58


And guess who's back from Hawaii. I've actually finished two books since I've been here last but seeing as how they're both examples of children's literature, I've got a sneaking suspicion that they're probably only going to be of limited interest to all of you here. The first one I read -- and completed in the lobby of my hotel in Waikiki -- was, as you've probably already guessed from my last post, "Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince". It's not something I need to go into extraordinary detail about as I'm sure you're all already familiar with the series, so I'll just discuss it in brief.

For all the adult fantasy addicts here -- and I'm not speaking pornographically -- the Harry Potter series is probably not revered amongst this particular club's members. Personally, never having read anything more epic than the first two books of the Bible or the first 263 lines of "Paradise Lost", I would be unsuitable for drawing any comparisons between Harry Potter and any other contemporary fantasy series currently in print so, in short, I won't. Rather, I shall attempt to discuss Rowling's work and specifically, her latest book, as standalone material. No worries, you won't find any spoilers here. (That was for all of you secretly planning on reading the book without letting us in on it.) To begin with, "Half-Blood Prince" is easily one of the most mature books of the series. Gone is the irritating teen angst of "Order of the Phoenix" and gone are the more tediously pointless chapters of "Goblet of Fire". In the latest installment of the saga, Harry and his friends find themselves coming one step closer to vanquishing Lord Voldemort, by not only finding out more about his life and secrets, but by finding out more about their own secret pasts as well. Harry and his friends also begin to explore their typical teenage years and all that they bring, often resulting in much of the novel's comic relief, such as one passage that has a certain someone "cropping up in [Harry's] dreams in ways that made him devoutly thankful that Ron could not perform Legilimency." (p. 286-7), which, for the uninitiated, just so happens to be a magical method of mind-reading. Also, I'm sure that this tidbit of information wouldn't mean anything to anyone except fans of the series, but certain relationships are forged here that serve to spice things up a little for the three main characters and ultimately, serve to give the book's final chapter just an ounce more pathos. However, I'm sure that goes without saying. Rowling has only so far disappointed with "Order" and even then, the complexity of the series' story kept the pages turning long into the night. In fact, that is where all of the books' strength lies, within the story. The prose itself is nothing magnificent. A racing mind is nothing new, nor is looking stunned; something all the characters seem to do whenever something catches them off guard. But Harry Potter has doubtlessly changed the literary landscape in more ways than one. It may not be fantasy at its finest, but as a readable piece of fiction that takes magic -- something once only reserved for Merlins, Gandalfs and other such sorcerous Methuselahs -- and places it in the hands of a teenage boy, it deserves credit for its ingenuity. And to be fair, not even all the prose is bad. And the character development, although slow, still creates characters more convincing than you'd find in most adult fiction today. Potter himself is no longer the naive child we were introduced to back in 1997, he's now "long since learned that bangs and smoke were more often the marks of ineptitude than expertise." (p. 522). I've never been dedicated enough to be a fan, but ever since my girlfriend introduced me to the series and got me hooked, I can now at least say, without shame or guilt, that I am now a follower and will read the seventh book regardless of how I'll look towing it around amongst two thousand others out on the street right when it first comes out. Oh, and in closing, she also said that the sixth HP novel was 'more human' than the previous five. I'm inclined to agree.

The second book that I managed to complete during my vacation in Hawaii was Lewis Carroll's "Alice in Wonderland". See, I had only a few days before purchased an old 1955 hardcover Whitman Classics copy of "Alice" from an outdoor garage sale for $15.00 Cdn and I figured I might as well read it seeing as how I had never done so before. The book, however, at a surprising 284 pages, not only contained just "Alice's Adventures in Wonderland" but also "Through the Looking-Glass", and even though I didn't particularly enjoy reading something so obviously intended for a much younger audience, a few things are clear. Written in 1865 and 1872 respectively, Carroll's children's classic is responsible for setting up a tradition of sorts in our children's literature. Such as utilizing understatement for humourous effect, which can be noticed in the Narnia Chronicles as well as the Series of Unfortunate Events books. For instance, Alice thinking to herself that "if you drink much from a bottle marked 'Poison', it is almost certain to disagree with you sooner or later." (p. 15), is echoed in even, say, Hermione's inability to keep her priorities straight by placing expulsion over death on her list of things to avoid. Absurdism also plays a role here, such as when a Guard looks curiously at Alice, "first through a telescope, then through a microscope, and then through an opera glass." (p. 169). And when, I ask you, have we not seen something just a little bit odd or ridiculous in today's kid lit? "Alice" is also echoed in what I feel to be the best children's literature ever penned, Antoine de Saint-Exupery's "The Little Prince". Using simple imagery and basic logic to teach young readers about the lessons of life is something that both Carroll and Saint-Exupery try to do, but in the case of "Alice", it's really no deeper than it needs to be. Unless I missed something truly profound about knights falling on their heads and inventing unappetizing desserts, "Alice in Wonderland" is just a little bit of nonsense meant for nobody older than seven-and-a-half. All I wanted to get across was its involvement in a trend over the past 140 years.

So what am I reading now? A memoir, actually. And after that, some Canadian sci-fi. From Margaret Atwood. As always, I'll keep you posted.

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Response to The Book Club 2005-08-19 09:45:54


Read This:

The story had us, round the fire, sufficiently breathless, but except the obvious remark that it was gruesome, as, on Christmas Eve in an old house, a strange tale should essentially be, I remember no comment uttered till somebody happened to say that it was the only case he has met in which such a visitation had fallen on a child. The case, I may mention, was that of an apparition in just such an old house as had gathered us for the occasion—an appearance, of a dreadful kind, to a little boy sleeping in the room with his mother and waking her up in the terror of it; waking her not to dissipate his dread and soothe him to sleep again, but to encounter also, herself, before she had succeeded in doing so, the same sight that had shaken him. It was this observation that drew from Douglas—not immediately, but later in the evening—a reply that had the interesting consequence to which I call attention.

Now go read The Turn Of the Screw if you already havn't. Those first three sentences are just enough to give you a good reason to read the short. Plus, it is only two bucks from Indigo books.

Response to The Book Club 2005-08-19 10:43:21


Title : Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers
Author : John Ronald Ruell Tolkien
Date of Publication : 1954
ISBN : 0-261-10236-2

"The company of the ring is sundered. Frodo and Sam continue their journey alone down the great river Anduin - alone, that is, save for the mysterious creeping figure that follows wherever they go."

Writing style.

I have to say that now having followed on from Fellowship, this is suddenly a lot easier to read. I'm not sure if it's me getting used to the style of writing, or weather the writing style has changed, but it feels a better read, since there is more action and less setting of the scene, which is mainly what Fellowship is all about.

Would I reccomend it?

YOU MUST read this trilogy of books. No excuse. If you can't read, get someone to read them to you. Watching the films does not suffice, as they are vastly different in places.

My Rating : 8/10

I'm still not going to call this any higher than 8, because it's still hard reading. I did enjoy it, hence my 8/10. I see what all the hype was about, as opposed to the first time I read it.

Enjoy your reading people, I'm moving on to the thrilling climax of the 'greatest story ever told' with Return of the King, which is now well underway. I don't forsee myself being able to put this one down, since the pace is quickening up quite a bit.


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Response to The Book Club 2005-08-19 20:38:02


Hey guys,hows it going? I would like to join! I absolutly love to read. I pretty much read horror books,and the occasional comedy

Response to The Book Club 2005-08-19 20:52:39


Right now I'm reading 1776 by David Mcollough.

Might I join the club?

Response to The Book Club 2005-08-20 11:39:00


At 8/19/05 08:38 PM, flash_luver wrote: Hey guys,hows it going? I would like to join! I absolutly love to read. I pretty much read horror books,and the occasional comedy

Welcome

At 8/19/05 08:52 PM, seventy-one wrote:
Might I join the club?

Sure, welcome aboard.


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Response to The Book Club 2005-08-20 13:18:20


Thanks