At 2/11/05 08:39 PM, the_phantom_spancker wrote: Its amazing how the club I started as little group amoungest 2 good friends, has developed into a power that rivals the mods,
Fasinating....

Oh ny the way everyone see you in so many months ;-)

OMG spancker posts!!!!!1!!11!!one!

At 2/11/05 08:27 PM, Eldarion wrote: Cheers Myst ;D

^_^

At 2/11/05 08:18 PM, BonusStage wrote:

At 2/11/05 08:08 PM, Massacore wrote: Sorry, mistake. Wrong thread.

It is because of things like that, that would make me vote EK on this list before anyone like you :\

That is just, but harsh.

I think i asked this somewhere eslse, but i forget where. And i have already posted too much in the NGDD... so... are you actually 15 like your NG and RG pros say? For some reason, i don't believe it. lol.

At 2/11/05 08:39 PM, jonthomson wrote: OMG spancker posts!!!!!1!!11!!one!

lol! I had yet to witness such a moment until today and i felt a calming peace run over me. *Humbled* ; )

At 2/11/05 08:39 PM, jonthomson wrote: OMG spancker posts!!!!!1!!11!!one!

lol! I had yet to witness such a moment until today and i felt a calming peace run over me. *Humbled* ; )

Am I kind of like a god/myth here?

At 2/11/05 08:56 PM, the_phantom_spancker wrote: Am I kind of like a god/myth here?

nah, you're just a slack bastard....
j/k, nice to see the creator of the phenomenon that is the LUL make an appearance

At 2/11/05 03:24 PM, EKRegulus wrote:

At 2/11/05 01:44 PM, YoinK_VineS wrote: inactive mod removal?

It never happened in the past and I doubt that it's going to happen in the future.

You're convinced Wade will never remove the wasted space on the mod list solely because he's never done it before? You're certainly not a believer in the phrase 'there's a first time for everything', are you? Man... that's just like the people working in the WTC saying "Dude. A plane has never run into this building before. I doubt it's going to happen in the future." Hey, look what happened!

The point I'm trying to make is just because something hasn't happened before, doesn't mean it never will. You couldn't walk when you were first born, but look at you now.

Sure, Wade may not cut the fat from the list. Personally, I've been hoping that he will. I just don't see your reason to be a valid one.

I heard that one mod were removed from the list a while ago but that's probably because he broke an important rule.

You might be thinking of FUNK. Wade wasn't impressed with him sharing some of the mod lounge secrets and temporarily demodded him. Check this thread for the drama (page 2 to skip straight to the demodding).

At 2/11/05 09:03 PM, Denvish wrote:

At 2/11/05 08:56 PM, the_phantom_spancker wrote: Am I kind of like a god/myth here?

nah, you're just a slack bastard....
j/k, nice to see the creator of the phenomenon that is the LUL make an appearance

Yes yes, but what would be more of a phenomenon is if the Great Drimarki returned to NG

At 2/11/05 09:28 PM, BonusStage wrote: What, think i'm younger or something Myst, because i am

What?!? Your lying hurts me somewhat... well not really, but honestly, i think your older then me, by a year or two. Just from the way you talk and what not... i could be way off base though. Who knows... except you...

At 2/11/05 08:56 PM, the_phantom_spancker wrote: Am I kind of like a god/myth here?

lol, well, i was exagerating a little. However, it was just that i have never seen you post here before, though, i have only been around for just over a month.

At 2/11/05 09:05 PM, FIGMENTUM wrote: You're convinced Wade will never remove the wasted space on the mod list solely because he's never done it before? You're certainly not a believer in the phrase 'there's a first time for everything', are you?

Well, I did say that it won't happen but let me correct myself.
I think that it won't happen soon. It will take a while before it happens.
Now, I should explain myself:

What's the point of removing a few inactive and fair BBS mods who earned the confidence of admins while both portals are still affected by voting/flagging/reviewing and bookmarking abuses? Wouldn't it be more important to find solutions to clean up the portal before removing trusted mods which will certainly take care of posting whores if they become active again? OK, I exaggerated while typing "cleaning up", reducing the abuse is already a huge improvement. Somehow, I doubt that removing BBS mods which didn't abuse their powers and that could still be helpful is a priority around here.

Okay, the abuse might not be as bad as I make it sound but many users (and admins) proved us in the past that it exists and they also proved us that it could have huge effects on both portals and also in some users' profile(s).

Anyway, you get my point. I simply typed that it's probably not a priority.
I could be wrong but I doubt that I am.

Man... that's just like the people working in the WTC saying "Dude. A plane has never run into this building before. I doubt it's going to happen in the future." Hey, look what happened!

I guess my opinion and my previous explanation sucked. Hopefully, the one on this post might make more sense.

The point I'm trying to make is just because something hasn't happened before, doesn't mean it never will. You couldn't walk when you were first born, but look at you now.

Indeed.

Sure, Wade may not cut the fat from the list. Personally, I've been hoping that he will. I just don't see your reason to be a valid one.

That's why I changed it :D

You might be thinking of FUNK. Wade wasn't impressed with him sharing some of the mod lounge secrets and temporarily demodded him.

Naaahh, I was there. I'm talking about macdeth (was it him?) that were demodded in the past and never got his modship back. I heard about it but I wasn't active on the forums when it happened.

At 2/11/05 09:28 PM, BonusStage wrote: haah, anything to keep out EK :P

You son of a post whore :P VOTE FAIRLY OR MAGICALTREVOR (I found a way to call him) SHALL TURN YOU INTO A BORING AND SANE USER! ahahah!

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I wanted to reach my next rank-up before making my 2000th post but you obliged me to reply :(

At 2/11/05 10:22 PM, EKRegulus wrote:

At 2/11/05 09:05 PM, FIGMENTUM wrote: Man... that's just like the people working in the WTC saying "Dude. A plane has never run into this building before. I doubt it's going to happen in the future." Hey, look what happened!

I guess my opinion and my previous explanation sucked. Hopefully, the one on this post might make more sense.

I'm the king of quoting mistakes.

At 2/11/05 08:56 PM, the_phantom_spancker wrote: Am I kind of like a god/myth here?

Awesome, it's the creator of the LUL! Secks plz?

Welcome back and see you again in a few months. :D

At 2/11/05 10:22 PM, EKRegulus wrote: Inactive mod removal is less of a priority than correcting portal abuse etc etc.

I'm not certain on the whole mod/demodding process, but I'm pretty sure it wouldn't take Wade any more than 1 or 2 minutes to demod around 5 - 8 mods. A mere 2 minutes spent here shouldn't be a problem, before getting back to portal abuse solutions.

As for the demodding being a waste of time and inappropriate, RedCircle was saying through AIM that should a previously inactive demodded mod return to the BBS, Wade would have no problem remodding them. This is simply a tidying up of the mod list. It's up to 5 lines now!

Not FUNK, macbeth.

I think macbeth was a review mod. Bend got control of his account and abused the mod tools so Wade demodded him. That's the story as I know it.

So, how about that local stat list? ; P

At 2/11/05 11:37 PM, FIGMENTUM wrote: A mere 2 minutes spent here shouldn't be a problem, before getting back to portal abuse solutions.

The difficult part about demodding is to choose who's not going to make the cut and that's not a decision that should be made instantly. He would need to check how active (active doesn't necessarily mean posting, they can mod the forum without posting) they really were in the last weeks and it also depends on how important they were for the site (Tanner would obviously keep his mod powers).
Demodding takes 5 secs, choosing who's going to lose his modship is a different story.

Anyway, it's not my problem. I'm simply a normal user.

As for the demodding being a waste of time and inappropriate, RedCircle was saying through AIM that should a previously inactive demodded mod return to the BBS, Wade would have no problem remodding them. This is simply a tidying up of the mod list. It's up to 5 lines now!

ummm.. and if they are 5 demodded mods and they all come back, what would be the point to remove their modship at the start?

I think macbeth was a review mod. Bend got control of his account and abused the mod tools so Wade demodded him. That's the story as I know it.

Oh okay.

At 2/11/05 09:12 PM, the_phantom_spancker wrote: Yes yes, but what would be more of a phenomenon is if the Great Drimarki returned to NG

Yes, even though I never knew Drimarki, he is a legend to me as well. The schooling system over in Korea ensures that you only get about 4 hours of sleep and about 18 hours worth of school. Shocking.

Oh well, I hope he's living well and such.

So how's the mid of February going? I can't believe it's nearly been two weeks since Eldarion was elected! EK, I have a strong feeling you'll beat me on the next election, really.

At 2/12/05 08:30 AM, BonusStage wrote: hah dude, i'm honest to god 15, and i thought my .... maturity around general would prove so, but hey, what you said sounds better, thanks *huggles*

All i have to say to that is... craziness.

At 2/11/05 08:39 PM, the_phantom_spancker wrote: Its amazing how the club I started as little group amoungest 2 good friends, has developed into a power that rivals the mods,
Fasinating....

Oh ny the way everyone see you in so many months ;-)

Hey hey! Isn't it that old phantom that is coming back from death to pay us a little visit? How are you my friend?

At 2/12/05 03:29 AM, Alkador wrote: EK, I have a strong feeling you'll beat me on the next election, really.

Beat you? probably. End up second again? Yes. :D

Most regulars are tired to vote me, they know that I will finish second so they won't bother using their votes on someone that is cursed. :)

At 2/12/05 10:22 AM, EKRegulus wrote: Beat you? probably. End up second again? Yes. :D

Well one of two is gonna win it. : P

Most regulars are tired to vote me, they know that I will finish second so they won't bother using their votes on someone that is cursed. :)

lol, good way of looking at it. ^_^

Nah, i dont think you can pull off second two more times. Maybe once more, but not twice.

At 2/11/05 07:52 AM, Denvish wrote:
No worries, I was debating with myself whether to say anything. You just helped me make up my mind.

So, what if i didnt say anything, what would you have said? Amuse me ;) I dunno why i did that to be honest, i forgot you were a mod for a second, and then realised, so what if hes a mod, hes a cool guy, he will understand, that im a drunkard, and i talk shit sometimes :D

At 2/12/05 10:22 AM, EKRegulus wrote:
Most regulars are tired to vote me, they know that I will finish second so they won't bother using their votes on someone that is cursed. :)

Be quiet you, your always so fucking negative, maybe next time, i wont bother voting for you at all.

Some intresting NG history in these posts there, very very intresting, i guess i learn a little everyday, thanks guys.

Awesome update Mike, and im happy you were backing me, sorry to let you down, but that Kiba is a PRICK. Damn him to hell and back. I really need to sharpen up, that 2 people that have passed me, including that BASTARD, MARCUS. Nice little added column aswell, it seems i made a huge jump from last month, but then again, i was away for a week.

Thankees bud.

At 2/12/05 10:35 AM, Slightly_Crazy_Dude wrote: So, what if i didnt say anything, what would you have said? Amuse me ;)

Probably pretty much the same, it would have just taken me longer to get to it (by which stage ramagi probably would have dealt with the situation ;)

I dunno why i did that to be honest, i forgot you were a mod for a second, and then realised, so what if hes a mod, hes a cool guy, he will understand, that im a drunkard, and i talk shit sometimes :D

I really hope that no-one is going to change the way they talk/react to me just because my name is green. I'm still exactly the same person that I was a week ago; it's just that now when I see idiotic things happening on the BBS, I can actually do something about it.

At 2/12/05 10:54 AM, Denvish wrote: I really hope that no-one is going to change the way they talk/react to me just because my name is green. I'm still exactly the same person that I was a week ago; it's just that now when I see idiotic things happening on the BBS, I can actually do something about it.

Thats probably the most negative thing about being a mod, alot of users will treat you differently, because of your mod status,(mainly in general) they would feel like they have to agree with you constantly and kiss your ass, which could become very tiresom and somewhat annoying. But im sure that isn't the case in the wi/ht forum though, we love you for who you are <3

At 2/12/05 10:54 AM, Denvish wrote: Probably pretty much the same, it would have just taken me longer to get to it (by which stage ramagi probably would have dealt with the situation ;)

Hahahaha, OMG, report to Wade for abusive mods :)

I really hope that no-one is going to change the way they talk/react to me just because my name is green. I'm still exactly the same person that I was a week ago; it's just that now when I see idiotic things happening on the BBS, I can actually do something about it.

Yeah, i know i wont hold anything back from you, i realise your the same person, that i know (a little, and like, a little ;)) So i dont know why i said it, its kinda boggling me, perhaps it was for the good. Anyway, if i ever have a problem with you, you will find out first mate, i hope i dont have to tell you such things, but alas, b33r does funny things to you.

At 2/12/05 10:35 AM, Slightly_Crazy_Dude wrote: that Kiba is a PRICK.

*runs off crying* :'( I'm sorry, I didn't want to pass you, I just wanted to get high in the b/p rankings. Passing you was just a special add-on. :o

At 2/11/05 09:12 PM, the_phantom_spancker wrote: Yes yes, but what would be more of a phenomenon is if the Great Drimarki returned to NG

Considering I remember talking to him via IM at one point, wow that was some time ago. How times have changed.

At 2/12/05 11:34 AM, fixit2 wrote:
*runs off crying* :'( I'm sorry, I didn't want to pass you, I just wanted to get high in the b/p rankings. Passing you was just a special add-on. :o

Lol, i was just kidding mate, i seem to be getting quite angry in my posts lately, i think was tension building up for my beer battle last night, i think i'll be ok from now on. I apologise if it hurt your feelings bud. No hard feelings were intended.

At 2/13/05 10:31 AM, Slightly_Crazy_Dude wrote: No hard feelings were intended.

Methinks the rogue Scotsman doth lie

At 2/13/05 10:31 AM, Slightly_Crazy_Dude wrote: Lol, i was just kidding mate, i seem to be getting quite angry in my posts lately, i think was tension building up for my beer battle last night, i think i'll be ok from now on. I apologise if it hurt your feelings bud. No hard feelings were intended.

Haha, oh don't worry, I knew you were just kidding. But apparently you didn't know that I was as well. I thought the whole "runs off crying" thing would be a demonstration of my sarcasm. Oh well. Let's go and catch some more people above us. ;)

At 1/5/05 09:34 AM, RedCircle wrote: How far do you bend the rules?

I made rules, so that shit wouldn't be thrown together every month without some predictability. I have one person added to the list every month because I don't want the list to get bloated. I take notice, just as you do, the frequency of people's visits, and how they diminish AS SOON as they are "in the club." When it's not hard to be a part of the club, it kills the exclusitivity, and nobody is excited anymore.

It doesn't matter, though, whether only one person or two people (if a tie happens) get added to a list per month, though... the list will grow and grow and yes, eventually get "bloated." It'll just happen a BIT slower if ties aren't allowed to elevate both people into the list.

And this, of course, is why you've allowed for the possibility of people being voted OFF the list as well as voted on it. So... you still can't explain to my satisfaction why a tie between two perfectly qualified-and-welcome users... can't just mean that the two people who got the most removal votes come off in exchange (instead of just one), or something.

Just like the EGRL and NGTL. You feel much better when you get on the EGRL. Why? Because you feel like you earned it.

And why does two people earning something cheapen it? Very few people enter the EGRL by themselves each week. Most weeks Dogma updates the list, half a dozen or more people have entered the EGRL.

So, back to my original point. Why not just add them (IK and EK)both? Well, lets say that I bend the rule, and make it so that when people tie (at first place), they are all added. Then a few months down the line when 5 people tie at 7 votes each, or whatever, I'll have to put them all in too.

It's not about bending the rule, it's about CHANGING the rule. You could have changed the rule so that a maximum of two people at once could be added, reasoning that a tie between two people is VERY possible (it happened, after all), and if both people are deserving, it's not very fair to exclude one of them (better to exclude BOTH, IMO, actually)...

but that a tie between 3 people is very unlikely... and if that actually happened, since you have a small pool of voters, the actual votes for each person would be lower than the votes for a tie between two people at the top would be.... and therefore there's less of a "mandate" for each person to be added.. and thus, 2 is the max that may be added.

Or whatever. You get the point. This stuff about bending vs. breaking is just semantics. The rules in this topic/list are YOURS, not some external, third-party, unreachable gov't or something. You are teh rulemaker. MAKE them as you see fit. You've changed the list since page 1, right? If you can change the list(s) and how they work, why can't you change the rules, too? And wait, you DID. You've changed the rules on how mods/members are eligible for various list inclusion.

It's gonna make the Regulars List HUGE and nobody will take pride in that, although they aren't a Member yet, they can still say that they are part of something.

No one was arguing for 5 people to be added to the list per month, man.

Well, that's partially the reason for the removal vote being optional. It is sometimes used, but hell, last month, only three people out of 14 used it.

This list WILL grow, but not as fast as some people might like it to, and all I can say to them is TOUGH.

At least it isn't as slow as the MemberList. Don't get me wrong, I love the fact that the MemberList is slow, because it means that it's level of exclusivity is through the roof.

its. #;-}>

What's so great about exclusivity when it comes to fun things like this and that, though? Exclusivity just means exclusion, yanno. And there's nothing wrong with that if it's due to someone not doing something they could easily do to get INCLUDED (such as hit 10.00 VP if they really really really want to be part of the fairly-exclusive 10.00+ VP club)... but if it's something like the arbitrary rules behind a list that doesn't have hard concrete guidelines... then that's a different matter.

Sorry, he'll have to wait until next month. *insert geefox smiley*

Well, what happened, eh? #;-}>

Man, are you on a complaining trip today! Well, you tried at least, and I think EK would be happy to see that. Let's put it this way, WE ALL KNOW that EK is awesome, so let's make it an official thing. Let's let him EARN it!

If the rule was bent, do you think he would have felt the same pride about being on the list then if he won it fair and square?

I'm sure that in the last Wi/Ht? Member election, if SK and I "tied" and we were both put in, him nor I would have felt the pride and accomplishment that I felt when I had my 15 minutes of fame.

All I was arguing a month ago or so... was that he DID earn it. How is tying the person who ended up getting added to a grouping not earning your way on? Like I kinda said before, if one person in a tie is considered to not have "earned" the solitary "new entrant" slot to the list, then... the other person in the tie didn't earn it either. If someone really has to BLOW someone else out of the water to be added to the list, then you might as well make it a "no tiebreakers allowed" deal and just say "sorry, no new members this month, both guys can try again next time."

As for your other example... If you and SK tied and were both put into the Wi/Ht?, I'd think we got two new great members to the group, and the more the merrier.

I don't know where people got the idea that we only add one at a time to Wi/Ht? That's the way Recon likes to do it, and that's the way Spancker did it most recently, but ONCE UPON A TIME (i.e. summer of 2003), we added pairs of people to Wi/Ht?... TWICE! Just check the member-dates on the memberlist. Four people were added within a month of each other, and each pair within 2 days of each other.

I've never been one for exclusivity just for exclusivity's sake, so bringing up the Wi/Ht? elections with me ain't gonna get you far. Maybe with other members, but not with me. IMO, the best way to run the Wi/Ht? election would be to allow people to vote for up to 2 or 3 people to enter the membership... and anyone who gets over a certain majority %age of the total membership's vote would be added, meaning there could be more than 1 new member at a time.

Just like there was... in the golden past.

(now for the non-list-related bit of my reply to RC, which wouldn't fit in the above post... + my replies to everyone else)

At 1/5/05 09:34 AM, RedCircle wrote: Well, it's not going off the ground for a little while, so that'll give you enough time to GO OUT and get one, right? Plz?

You want to shell out cash for a microphone I don't need for anything but recording my voice for a NG flash? Hmph. #;-}>

It's really a nice smiley. It is unique and creative. It can show sarcasm if need be, and it's a nice addition to the end of a cool line, yanno? ^_^

It can show a wide range of BBS emotions, actually. But yes, sarcasm or just playful silliness or somesuch is what it's best at. It's now nearly 11 years old. INCREDIBLE!

At 1/5/05 01:11 PM, Slightly_Crazy_Dude wrote: Wow gfox is alive.

Sorry for... um... dying on ya again, or whatever. O_O

But it's not like we haven't talked in my list topics and so forth, so... quit yer bitchin'. #;-}>

At 2/1/05 07:55 AM, Denvish wrote: lol@ramagi pwning the mods list.

She doesn't really pwn the mod list here any more than she pwns the pentalist, yanno, seeing as how the totals are the same on both. O_o

Also, I might point out, with a slight "HMPH!," that I'd been pwning the mods list here for many a month, and that the gap between me and Joe (who used to be #1 and #2 before ramagi was modded recently) is much larger than the gap between ramagi and myself (the new #1 and #2).... Ah well. I gets no respect for my previous pwning of the mods list, I suppose. ;_;

:::has to be content to rule o'er the Wi/Ht? memberlist, if nothing else:::

At 2/1/05 05:28 PM, Tom_s00 wrote:

At 2/1/05 04:02 PM, -Mazza- wrote: By the way, since when is FDA a mod?

About 2-3 weeks ago.

You're shitting us, right? ... I almost always notice new mods on the list within a few days. But I didn't notice FDA until the day ramagi and Mary were modded (which I noticed that same day)... I assumed he had been modded along with them, but I wasn't sure since no one mentioned him in the new threads that popped up that day about the other two...

so... wow. Hm. So around 1/15 or so? Does anyone know the EXACT date, or a bit more precise than that? I keep a list of modding order/date of modding.... and now that list is inaccurate in FDA's line. ;_;

At 2/2/05 01:44 PM, EKRegulus wrote: Nah, what really annoys me is that many users would be included twice into the list. While we are at it, why don't we nominate gfoxclock? He's very useful. My point is if level-up lounger is allowed to be voted in then other alts should also be eligible.

Hahahahahah. If anyone votes for gfoxclock to make the regulars list and I find out who they are... I SHALL BANNINATE THEM!

And you can't say you weren't warned. #;-}>

At 2/2/05 10:29 PM, fixit2 wrote: especially -Mary- who I had thought should had been modded oh so long ago.

She was discussed for moddage back in the days when Nephthys was being discussed for moddage as well. I'm not quite sure why Neph was modded so much earlier than she was. Perhaps there's only so much "cool chick on General = new mod"age that NG BBS can take or something. :::nods:::

At 2/13/05 10:33 AM, Denvish wrote:
Methinks the rogue Scotsman doth lie

So now im a rogue? Lol, ok. And something else, ive noticed, youve called me Scotsman an awful lot of times recently, any reason? Or do you want me to stir up some Scotland V England rivalry ;)

At 2/13/05 03:54 PM, LOL_alias_XD wrote:
Haha, oh don't worry, I knew you were just kidding. But apparently you didn't know that I was as well. I thought the whole "runs off crying" thing would be a demonstration of my sarcasm. Oh well. Let's go and catch some more people above us. ;)

Bleh, i will try and catch YOU!!!!

At 2/13/05 10:33 PM, gfoxcook wrote:
Sorry for... um... dying on ya again, or whatever. O_O

But it's not like we haven't talked in my list topics and so forth, so... quit yer bitchin'. #;-}>

Lol, i dont remember typing that, perhaps i was drunk, i think ive been drunk alot recently :D

At 2/14/05 06:34 PM, Slightly_Crazy_Dude wrote: So now im a rogue? Lol, ok. And something else, ive noticed, youve called me Scotsman an awful lot of times recently, any reason? Or do you want me to stir up some Scotland V England rivalry ;)

Twice. And no, it's simply that you are, in fact, from Scotland =D
I have absolutely nothing against the Irish, Welsh, Scottish, or Cornish. In fact, I have more respect for them than I do for the average Englishman...

At 2/14/05 06:44 PM, Denvish wrote:
Twice. And no, it's simply that you are, in fact, from Scotland =D

Is the ginger beard and kilt that obvious ;)

I have absolutely nothing against the Irish, Welsh, Scottish, or Cornish. In fact, I have more respect for them than I do for the average Englishman...

Hahaha, i kid you my man, i have total respect for you, mod or not, but whatever, im rambling. You should go to NGChat more often, "sometimes" its fun.