First off, Myst that person you're talking too is Denvish, I mean, he even said he was in the second post, it's even in your quoted text man! >_>
At 1/21/05 08:19 PM, FLiXD wrote:
I honestly don't understand your logic. The two main criteria for me when voting are 1) helpfulness and 2) regularity. Alkador meets the second one, but I certainly wouldn't say he's the top choice for #1.
I'll agree with this here. I know exactly what you mean. I saw last month and I thought for sure one of those 2 members would have been voted off then. But to my surprise there were very little out votes period. Everyone said it was out of the "holiday spirit" but in my opinion it just seemed as if no one wanted to bother going and voting off their friends. I don't know why people want to keep them on when they can just be re-elected later on if they come back. I mean, say Bonus went inactive for a long while, he's my friend, but I'd still have to vote him off since it'd be pointless for him to be on, and I'd know that if he did come back he'd easily get back on if he went regular again. And concerning Alkador, he is indeed a very regular person, a much better befriender than a helper. He easily makes people like him, without having to be overly helpful. Personally, I think -king-o-games- is one of the most helpful people in the Wi/Ht. But he never gets recognized because of the fact he never posts in the LUL, which is just terrible. ):<
Going by this and previous elections, it seems that I may be the only one who feels this way....
Well I've only seen the past 3 elections. The one you got in the one where ramagi got in and then the one where I got in. I don't think there were elections before then, I'll probably have to go back in check though. But I already know you can't be talking about your election or ramagi's because you are both helpful. Mine is the one in question here, and I have to say I do agree. I didn't view myself as very helpful, because I really don't know enough to BE helpful. I mean, I don't have anywhere near the programming skills to make some list using some program, so I lose out there. And when it comes to threads, it's just annoying for me to try and help. Because I either don't know myself, or when I do try to help because I do know, someone ALWAYS beats me to it. I try, I'm just not good at it. So I agree, I'm like Alkador in the fact I got people to vote me in based on just #1 and not part #2. So blah blah, I don't deserve to be in when looking at both rules pretty much. ;_;
Also, in terms of the OUT vote, I really wish that people would use their votes to cut out the dead wood. There are at least 2 people on the Regulars list who simply do not belong there now - they're not regular, and thus they're not helpful. What's the point of having a Regulars list if it includes people who haven't been Wi/Ht Regulars for 2+ months?
As I said earlier this is a part I agree on whole-heartedly. And it isn't just 2 people, in my opinion there are three of them that need to be just cut-off because of their current activity. I know I'll be using my out vote to try and get one of them off. Of course, I can't name the people because that'd qualify as "discussing votes" but we ALL know who they are. The people who never really do anything anymore for the Wi/Ht. I mean, at least checking up once every other day would be enough to let me think of them as dedicated. But they rarely stop by, if ever. Thus, they aren't regulars, and aren't fit for the list. >_>
That's part of the reason that I encouraged RC to do the tri-monthly updates - I was kind of hoping that the elections could be that often as well - since I personally think this should be a much more dynamic list than the other ones. I can understand why RC doesn't want to have torun elections that often, and I'm not trying to undermine him when I say that if I was running this list, I would have weekly or fortnightly elections, in order to keep it up to date.
Well with what EK said (well he hasn't technically said it yet, his post is on the next page) I have to agree with him over you, when concerning trimonthly. That would be far too fast for the Wi/Ht. We'd expand far too quickly and before you knew it we'd have 20~25 members, even with vote offs. But, on the other hand, a fortnightly update would be very nice. Twice a month (approx.) is a very good way to get it done. I'm sure we'd be able to pick off anyone who was lagging behind, and not overflow too quickly all at once.
That's my two-penneth anyway, take it or leave it and bear in mind that it was fuelled at least partly by alcohol.
Well I just threw in mine as well. Hopefully I didn't word anything incorrectly like my usual mess-ups with these kinds of discussions. Also, concerning your #1 (regularity) and #2 (helpfulness) I'd probably go at that from a different angle than you. I'd say that #1 is dedication. I mean, it's enough to come and post here often, but you need to be dedicated and actually show you care about Wi/Ht by some way or another rather than the usual "congrats everyone, I did this" I've been seeing more and more people do. They rarely venture beyond the LUL and that's all I see out of them, but they are regular. Thus, dedication is much more sincere than just regularity. And #2 would be helpfulness as you said. But I add a #3. Concern. Yes, concern, someone who is constantly stating their opinion about things that happen here is a good thing to have. It shows you are paying attention to the things that are going on and aren't just going to "let things work out" and "go with it". People who assert themselves gain more attention and thus are good choices because they care about what's going on in Wi/Ht. ;)
*checks to see what's been said while he was typing this* Nice to see Myst finally finished figuring out that it was Denvish. XD