Have You Replaced Yourself with AI Yet?

[alsoknownas1]

Okay... I submit. Since only programming "slander" style threads seem to get any level of engagement and since NG a million AI threads have bloomed everywhere else on the BBS:

Have You Replaced Yourself with AI Yet?

• What's your current stack re: AI if any?
• Current results?
• Thoughts on the future?

Myself, I have integrated copilot into my Emacs setup and for non-Lisp languages I'm saving myself a buttload of typing but my main use is as semantic search of large legacy codebases or assembly. I am currently using a bunch of projects that have no documentation whatsoever that I wouldn't be crazy enough to use without that safety net.

Code generation I haven't used that much and I've basically just scratched the surface of semantic-analysis or natural language processing.

Using it to generate Mathmatica syntax from notation is pretty nice. I want to do more along these lines.

Swords out.

[detergent1]

zero AI usage so far

[Gimmick]

Haven't installed Copilot yet, and don't plan to in the immediate future although my colleagues definitely have, and even the anti-AI ones were praising it so there's that.

I mainly use it standalone, for asking questions regarding things I have no idea about. For example earlier today I was trying to find out how to generate packet captures and feed them to Snort 3. Normally I'd have to dig around until I found the tools, the confs and so on but I was able to get it in one place.

Granted it did make mistakes like giving me Snort 2 syntax when it should've known from context that it was Snort 3, but oh well.

I generate code for throwaway scripts, but these days I won't (or try not to) generate anything that will be reviewed by another developer or checked into a repo long-term. It's not quite good enough for that, depending on the programming language, and it sometimes makes use of strange idioms (such as unnecessarily nested functions) that you normally wouldn't use.

Maybe in the future it'll be more convenient, error-free and readable but for my use case it's not quite there yet. Maybe it's just a case of needing to get used to having something like Copilot always on before I get used to using it regularly for codegen but eh

(Also: it was terrible a year ago for generating SQL, I dunno if much has changed since)

[kcvbnj]

in some departments in my brain yes. on my laptop though, no ai... never!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

[Nitgo]

I am no human, in fact, I'm not even AI; I'm a banana!!!

[alsoknownas1]

At 4/15/25 08:07 AM, Nitgo wrote:I am no human, in fact, I'm not even AI; I'm a banana!!!

How many you's are equivalent to Fukushima Daiichi?

[Dreamcastian-Turnip]

no because i want to have an actual sex life in the future

[AYJAYKENS]

After witnessing articles that AI tools and bots destroy the environment, it changed my mind over AI stuff. I don't care if it makes my life easier, because I can still be canceled if I use AI in any way, shape or form. I can't even use AI to entertain myself in my free time anymore.

Speaking of AI, we have seen futuristic atmospheres and landscapes in fiction, the only question is how we're going to get there. The answer is that it's too expensive, simplifying technology with bland colors, and can destroy the environment. Therefore, wifi/internet is easy and accessible to everyone which is why we have AI bots and tools over flying cars (yes, we have flying cars now, but they're too expensive and require 2 separate licenses, which is why no one is interested). We will never get Back To The Future, CyberPunk 2077, or The Jetsons in real life.

At 4/10/25 09:22 AM, alsoknownas1 wrote:Okay... I submit. Since only programming "slander" style threads seem to get any level of engagement and since NG a million AI threads have bloomed everywhere else on the BBS:

Have You Replaced Yourself with AI Yet?


Myself, I have integrated copilot into my Emacs setup and for non-Lisp languages I'm saving myself a buttload of typing but my main use is as semantic search of large legacy codebases or assembly. I am currently using a bunch of projects that have no documentation whatsoever that I wouldn't be crazy enough to use without that safety net.

Code generation I haven't used that much and I've basically just scratched the surface of semantic-analysis or natural language processing.

Using it to generate Mathmatica syntax from notation is pretty nice. I want to do more along these lines.

Swords out.

[CrosEl]

Not replaced, but used it to screw around with. Back when I had time to do art-trades, I could see my OC in different styles, now I don't have much time to be on art sites. So I "art-trade" with a.i.

I've also bounced ideas off of it with very little decent results, so I've stopped that. I dunno if I'm using something way too Cheap or all a.i. will eventually devolve to doing this, but: it's stupid creativity-wise up to the point it's laughable, I felt like I was actually being trolled, and/or it will heavily try to reaffirm something or body it made up and get obsessed over that idea until it completely details the conversation.

OK, that was mostly venting: I've replaced others and not myself, but I have considered because I don't know how to code and as a experiment to see how well it would pretend to be me. Though with how the thing handled conversations I doubt it could barely trick anybody that was even alive in the first place

[NikoN1nja]

I think one of my track covers was AI-generated. The music is 0% AI though.

[Creeperforce24]

At 4/10/25 09:22 AM, alsoknownas1 wrote:Okay... I submit. Since only programming "slander" style threads seem to get any level of engagement and since NG a million AI threads have bloomed everywhere else on the BBS:

Have You Replaced Yourself with AI Yet?


Myself, I have integrated copilot into my Emacs setup and for non-Lisp languages I'm saving myself a buttload of typing but my main use is as semantic search of large legacy codebases or assembly. I am currently using a bunch of projects that have no documentation whatsoever that I wouldn't be crazy enough to use without that safety net.

Code generation I haven't used that much and I've basically just scratched the surface of semantic-analysis or natural language processing.

Using it to generate Mathmatica syntax from notation is pretty nice. I want to do more along these lines.

Swords out.

I’m sure I’ll be using AI if I were to ever code/program, but in terms of art or music, nope! Completely squeaky clean of that idiocy!

[alsoknownas1]

At 4/15/25 11:32 AM, CrosEl wrote:[...] I have considered [code].

At 4/15/25 12:57 PM, Creeperforce24 wrote:I’m sure I’ll be using AI if I were to ever code/program, but in terms of art or music, nope! Completely squeaky clean of that idiocy!

Ha. Many such cases it seems. I'm not really bitching as I'm not really bothered by AI use under any circumstances, but I do find it amusing that for art and music it's either outright banned or requires a trigger warning but AI code is 100% okay and even encouraged by Tom.

So not just here but the site-wide consensus seems to be that all jobs should be automated except for artist and musicians, which... even if defensible on some sort of dualist belief, you have to admit is pretty funnily convenient.

It's good to be loved. :)

On toolsets, has anyone really messed around with Aider? I keep meaning to, but I'm having issues with its cut and paste mode at work.

                                        

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At 4/15/25 11:32 AM, CrosEl wrote:Not replaced, but used it to screw around with. Back when I had time to do art-trades, I could see my OC in different styles, now I don't have much time to be on art sites. So I "art-trade" with a.i.

I've also bounced ideas off of it with very little decent results, so I've stopped that. I dunno if I'm using something way too Cheap or all a.i. will eventually devolve to doing this, but: it's stupid creativity-wise up to the point it's laughable, I felt like I was actually being trolled, and/or it will heavily try to reaffirm something or body it made up and get obsessed over that idea until it completely details the conversation.

OK, that was mostly venting: I've replaced others and not myself, but I have considered because I don't know how to code and as a experiment to see how well it would pretend to be me. Though with how the thing handled conversations I doubt it could barely trick anybody that was even alive in the first place

At 4/15/25 12:57 PM, Creeperforce24 wrote:I’m sure I’ll be using AI if I were to ever code/program, but in terms of art or music, nope! Completely squeaky clean of that idiocy!

[Creeperforce24]

At 4/15/25 07:40 PM, alsoknownas1 wrote:

At 4/15/25 11:32 AM, CrosEl wrote:[...] I have considered [code].

At 4/15/25 12:57 PM, Creeperforce24 wrote:
I’m sure I’ll be using AI if I were to ever code/program, but in terms of art or music, nope! Completely squeaky clean of that idiocy!

Ha. Many such cases it seems. I'm not really bitching as I'm not really bothered by AI use under any circumstances, but I do find it amusing that for art and music it's either outright banned or requires a trigger warning but AI code is 100% okay and even encouraged by Tom.

So not just here but the site-wide consensus seems to be that all jobs should be automated except for artist and musicians, which... even if defensible on some sort of dualist belief, you have to admit is pretty funnily convenient.

It's good to be loved. :)

On toolsets, has anyone really messed around with Aider? I keep meaning to, but I'm having issues with its cut and paste mode at work.


standard edit insurance follows

At 4/15/25 11:32 AM, CrosEl wrote:
Not replaced, but used it to screw around with. Back when I had time to do art-trades, I could see my OC in different styles, now I don't have much time to be on art sites. So I "art-trade" with a.i.

I've also bounced ideas off of it with very little decent results, so I've stopped that. I dunno if I'm using something way too Cheap or all a.i. will eventually devolve to doing this, but: it's stupid creativity-wise up to the point it's laughable, I felt like I was actually being trolled, and/or it will heavily try to reaffirm something or body it made up and get obsessed over that idea until it completely details the conversation.

OK, that was mostly venting: I've replaced others and not myself, but I have considered because I don't know how to code and as a experiment to see how well it would pretend to be me. Though with how the thing handled conversations I doubt it could barely trick anybody that was even alive in the first place

At 4/15/25 12:57 PM, Creeperforce24 wrote:
I’m sure I’ll be using AI if I were to ever code/program, but in terms of art or music, nope! Completely squeaky clean of that idiocy!

The reason is because some parts of coding and programming is repetitive and takes a ton of time, if AI does it for you, it just means the project gets done faster, and it doesn’t show in the game. If you were to make the sprites or music from AI, that’s different, all you did was type a sentence or 2 and it made a song/beat or art piece, no skill whatsoever. When coding, your creativity is just being sped up, you skip the repetitive parts, and can work on things that are more important. Unless you made the entire code script from AI, then I don’t see a problem in using AI with coding.

[Creeperforce24]

At 4/15/25 07:40 PM, alsoknownas1 wrote:

At 4/15/25 11:32 AM, CrosEl wrote:[...] I have considered [code].

At 4/15/25 12:57 PM, Creeperforce24 wrote:
I’m sure I’ll be using AI if I were to ever code/program, but in terms of art or music, nope! Completely squeaky clean of that idiocy!

Ha. Many such cases it seems. I'm not really bitching as I'm not really bothered by AI use under any circumstances, but I do find it amusing that for art and music it's either outright banned or requires a trigger warning but AI code is 100% okay and even encouraged by Tom.

So not just here but the site-wide consensus seems to be that all jobs should be automated except for artist and musicians, which... even if defensible on some sort of dualist belief, you have to admit is pretty funnily convenient.

It's good to be loved. :)

On toolsets, has anyone really messed around with Aider? I keep meaning to, but I'm having issues with its cut and paste mode at work.


standard edit insurance follows

At 4/15/25 11:32 AM, CrosEl wrote:
Not replaced, but used it to screw around with. Back when I had time to do art-trades, I could see my OC in different styles, now I don't have much time to be on art sites. So I "art-trade" with a.i.

I've also bounced ideas off of it with very little decent results, so I've stopped that. I dunno if I'm using something way too Cheap or all a.i. will eventually devolve to doing this, but: it's stupid creativity-wise up to the point it's laughable, I felt like I was actually being trolled, and/or it will heavily try to reaffirm something or body it made up and get obsessed over that idea until it completely details the conversation.

OK, that was mostly venting: I've replaced others and not myself, but I have considered because I don't know how to code and as a experiment to see how well it would pretend to be me. Though with how the thing handled conversations I doubt it could barely trick anybody that was even alive in the first place

At 4/15/25 12:57 PM, Creeperforce24 wrote:
I’m sure I’ll be using AI if I were to ever code/program, but in terms of art or music, nope! Completely squeaky clean of that idiocy!

In simple terms, one’s a tool, another is a lazy way out

[Creeperforce24]

At 4/15/25 07:40 PM, alsoknownas1 wrote:

At 4/15/25 11:32 AM, CrosEl wrote:[...] I have considered [code].

At 4/15/25 12:57 PM, Creeperforce24 wrote:
I’m sure I’ll be using AI if I were to ever code/program, but in terms of art or music, nope! Completely squeaky clean of that idiocy!

Ha. Many such cases it seems. I'm not really bitching as I'm not really bothered by AI use under any circumstances, but I do find it amusing that for art and music it's either outright banned or requires a trigger warning but AI code is 100% okay and even encouraged by Tom.

So not just here but the site-wide consensus seems to be that all jobs should be automated except for artist and musicians, which... even if defensible on some sort of dualist belief, you have to admit is pretty funnily convenient.

It's good to be loved. :)

On toolsets, has anyone really messed around with Aider? I keep meaning to, but I'm having issues with its cut and paste mode at work.


standard edit insurance follows

At 4/15/25 11:32 AM, CrosEl wrote:
Not replaced, but used it to screw around with. Back when I had time to do art-trades, I could see my OC in different styles, now I don't have much time to be on art sites. So I "art-trade" with a.i.

I've also bounced ideas off of it with very little decent results, so I've stopped that. I dunno if I'm using something way too Cheap or all a.i. will eventually devolve to doing this, but: it's stupid creativity-wise up to the point it's laughable, I felt like I was actually being trolled, and/or it will heavily try to reaffirm something or body it made up and get obsessed over that idea until it completely details the conversation.

OK, that was mostly venting: I've replaced others and not myself, but I have considered because I don't know how to code and as a experiment to see how well it would pretend to be me. Though with how the thing handled conversations I doubt it could barely trick anybody that was even alive in the first place

At 4/15/25 12:57 PM, Creeperforce24 wrote:
I’m sure I’ll be using AI if I were to ever code/program, but in terms of art or music, nope! Completely squeaky clean of that idiocy!

I don’t program, but I know damn well there’s bound to be some extreme repetitiveness in some parts of coding, and with such requires a tool known as AI, I like AI programming because it’s typing code, it’s unnoticeable unless you look in the code files, it’s not just typing a prompt which is a sentence and making a game for you, it’s making the repetitiveness of coding easier, how could you possibly go against that!

[alsoknownas1]

At 4/15/25 07:45 PM, Creeperforce24 wrote:In simple terms, one’s a tool, another is a lazy way out

It's cool dude. I'm all for AI coding cause I'm all for AIing all the things. To me, all tools are the lazy way out, which is why they should be used. It's all about collecting more coconuts. I just find the defensiveness of artist funny, but I didn't mean to bait it out in you or anything like that. I get it: all the artist on NG are Honoré de Balzac, deserving of a semi-circle of female (or male, artist choice) admirers.

I'm definitely not against AI coding. I want people to do it and I want to help myself and others get better at it.

Getting back to you experimenting with AI coding, have you only tried chatting with agents? Or have you tried something more structured, like Cursor?

Does any NGer or NGer's boss have enough cash to have tried Devin?

                                        

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At 4/15/25 07:44 PM, Creeperforce24 wrote:The reason is because some parts of coding and programming is repetitive and takes a ton of time, if AI does it for you, it just means the project gets done faster, and it doesn’t show in the game. If you were to make the sprites or music from AI, that’s different, all you did was type a sentence or 2 and it made a song/beat or art piece, no skill whatsoever. When coding, your creativity is just being sped up, you skip the repetitive parts, and can work on things that are more important. Unless you made the entire code script from AI, then I don’t see a problem in using AI with coding.

At 4/15/25 07:45 PM, Creeperforce24 wrote:In simple terms, one’s a tool, another is a lazy way out

At 4/15/25 07:49 PM, Creeperforce24 wrote:I don’t program, but I know damn well there’s bound to be some extreme repetitiveness in some parts of coding, and with such requires a tool known as AI, I like AI programming because it’s typing code, it’s unnoticeable unless you look in the code files, it’s not just typing a prompt which is a sentence and making a game for you, it’s making the repetitiveness of coding easier, how could you possibly go against that!

[Creeperforce24]

At 4/15/25 08:10 PM, alsoknownas1 wrote:

At 4/15/25 07:45 PM, Creeperforce24 wrote:In simple terms, one’s a tool, another is a lazy way out

It's cool dude. I'm all for AI coding cause I'm all for AIing all the things. To me, all tools are the lazy way out, which is why they should be used. It's all about collecting more coconuts. I just find the defensiveness of artist funny, but I didn't mean to bait it out in you or anything like that. I get it: all the artist on NG are Honoré de Balzac, deserving of a semi-circle of female (or male, artist choice) admirers.

I'm definitely not against AI coding. I want people to do it and I want to help myself and others get better at it.

Getting back to you experimenting with AI coding, have you only tried chatting with agents? Or have you tried something more structured, like Cursor?

Does any NGer or NGer's boss have enough cash to have tried Devin?


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At 4/15/25 07:44 PM, Creeperforce24 wrote:
The reason is because some parts of coding and programming is repetitive and takes a ton of time, if AI does it for you, it just means the project gets done faster, and it doesn’t show in the game. If you were to make the sprites or music from AI, that’s different, all you did was type a sentence or 2 and it made a song/beat or art piece, no skill whatsoever. When coding, your creativity is just being sped up, you skip the repetitive parts, and can work on things that are more important. Unless you made the entire code script from AI, then I don’t see a problem in using AI with coding.

At 4/15/25 07:45 PM, Creeperforce24 wrote:
In simple terms, one’s a tool, another is a lazy way out

At 4/15/25 07:49 PM, Creeperforce24 wrote:
I don’t program, but I know damn well there’s bound to be some extreme repetitiveness in some parts of coding, and with such requires a tool known as AI, I like AI programming because it’s typing code, it’s unnoticeable unless you look in the code files, it’s not just typing a prompt which is a sentence and making a game for you, it’s making the repetitiveness of coding easier, how could you possibly go against that!

Most coding I’ve had is with weird chat bots, I didn’t learn shi.

And about all tools being a lazy way, I guess that makes sense, but seriously, I think there’s a BIG difference between using an AI tool to speed up a usually repetitive process and just typing a sentence to give you a product.

[KittyhawkMontrose]

At 4/15/25 10:31 AM, Dreamcastian-Turnip wrote:no because i want to have an actual sex life in the future

I can assure you, chicks dig men who have more time for their women. 😁

[MWMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM]

I can't be fully replaced, because Udio AI can't make hands up as far as I'm concerned. However, it made some good ass UK Hardcore.

[alsoknownas1]

At 4/15/25 09:04 PM, MWMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM wrote:[Udio AI]

Interesting. I haven't touched audio at all, except for enough old school generative AI to add new (and Spanish) words to the Speak and Spell:

Is there anything more structured for audio than prompts yet? Like ComfyUI but for sound?

                                        

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At 4/15/25 09:04 PM, MWMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM wrote:I can't be fully replaced, because Udio AI can't make hands up as far as I'm concerned. However, it made some good ass UK Hardcore.

[Spaggo]

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"I can't say I have.*

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[aspenjag]

What's your current stack re: AI if any?

I use AI as a tool to help me with reading documentation or understanding new frameworks. Aside from that no, LLMs have not replaced much of my programming skills yet. All code is parsed through me and if I don't understand it I try to understand what the LLM gave me.

Current results?

It is very bad to have an LLM manage your codebase like that without proof reading what it's doing since it can't see and understand the full picture of a project like we can, not yet at least until we have more VRAM and maybe something past transformer models that doesn't exist yet. I am looking forward to what AI can do for me, but I will never use it to outright replace me. But as far as single script projects go, it is much more powerful. LLMs tends to spit out unreliable and hard to maintain code that it's just not worth it to copy and paste.

Thoughts on the future?

Outside of programming, AI serves tools that are invaluable to us that's already in use like medical research and diagnosing life threatening illnesses early, deep-water research, etc. AI can also provide you a very niche-topic learning experience in most subjects that would cost a lot money usually or learning that's inaccessible to you for any reason, AI as a learning tool is awesome and with any tool it can be used to harm others which makes it scary.

I am anxious for the future of LLMs and neural networks as we don't understand how they work despite programming them, I worry for this tool to be in the wrong hands that wants to do harm. I've walked past some tourist shops in Edinburgh that use Stable Diffusion generations as artist replacements and it's so gross.

[Quinnfinity3]

Idk why but I'm legit just thinking about the alpha male wolf meme but instead they become neo matrix ai persona type shit XD

[alsoknownas1]

I'd definitely say that "chat with" or "on demand documentation" or whatever you want to call it really feels like a natural progression that builds on top of search, and its definitely where models are the most useful right now. Despite an overall weak model, copilot has a natural advantage here, with whatever proprietary magic github is using to bring parts of the codebase in and out of the context window. I should probably get off my butt and learn MCP or at least the POE API. I've used repo2text as a poor man's version with pretty good results.

You're right that most models can't yet work with larger codebases en mass. That seems to be where the (unfortunately for pay) integrations really shine, since they let you generate, say, a snippet within a larger file.

                                        

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At 4/16/25 08:30 AM, aspenjag wrote:I use AI as a tool to help me with reading documentation or understanding new frameworks. Aside from that no, LLMs have not replaced much of my programming skills yet. All code is parsed through me and if I don't understand it I try to understand what the LLM gave me.

It is very bad to have an LLM manage your codebase like that without proof reading what it's doing since it can't see and understand the full picture of a project like we can, not yet at least until we have more VRAM and maybe something past transformer models that doesn't exist yet. I am looking forward to what AI can do for me, but I will never use it to outright replace me. But as far as single script projects go, it is much more powerful. LLMs tends to spit out unreliable and hard to maintain code that it's just not worth it to copy and paste.

Outside of programming, AI serves tools that are invaluable to us that's already in use like medical research and diagnosing life threatening illnesses early, deep-water research, etc. AI can also provide you a very niche-topic learning experience in most subjects that would cost a lot money usually or learning that's inaccessible to you for any reason, AI as a learning tool is awesome and with any tool it can be used to harm others which makes it scary.

I am anxious for the future of LLMs and neural networks as we don't understand how they work despite programming them, I worry for this tool to be in the wrong hands that wants to do harm. I've walked past some tourist shops in Edinburgh that use Stable Diffusion generations as artist replacements and it's so gross.

[Kiraichu]

Although I do admit that I’ve used AI art generation in the past and my PFP is indeed AI-generated, art is the only thing AI-related that I like to mess around with. I don’t say it’s my own work because I know it’s not; I just find it fun to use!

And why would I need to use AI to make music when I can make music perfectly fine already?

[Yomuchan]

At 4/10/25 09:22 AM, alsoknownas1 wrote:Have You Replaced Yourself with AI Yet?

They kept trying to tell me how 'fast' and 'convenient' AI coding would be. Turns out, someone just handed it babby's first code design book and slammed shut the hood. The spaghetti code has spaghetti, so yeah - not gonna work. +60 lines of code for something that can be done with just 2 functions and a master variable? No way man.

I'm not paying for supposed 'premium' either. I'll stick to the old ways.

[YuukanVulture]

Not entirely, no.

[NuclearTaco2004]

I only use AI to write out brainstorming ideas and combine them with my own. I'd never fully do AI tells me to, nor will I let it draw anything for me unless I need a mockup for a game design.

[Radiotronika]

Honestlñy, i dont use any type of AI, not even chat GPT, i do my own researchs and drawings and homework by myself. I dont like AI lol

[CrimsonKero]

I know how to deal with these types of threads..

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