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the Ukraine situation

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Response to the Ukraine situation 2022-12-26 16:34:55


At 12/25/22 11:16 PM, SPOOKY-BUM-DRILLER wrote:I’m filing this under weird.

Russian propaganda video shows Putin as Santa?


Well, he is delivering destruction, death, and suffering, to thousands of Ukrainian civilians on Christmas day by having his forces fill their homes, and infrastructure, with joyous to his heart, festive bombs. That may be the true meaning of Christmas to him, despite how this Christmas propaganda on state run Russian media takes artistic license to.


This is not much different than when he used Easter, earlier this year, to come off as religiously pious, by lighting candles in a church, while his forces were celebrating the rebirth of an old style European war in Ukraine.

Response to the Ukraine situation 2022-12-26 23:30:38 (edited 2022-12-26 23:35:45)


At 12/26/22 04:17 PM, SPOOKY-BUM-DRILLER wrote:
At 12/26/22 02:26 PM, DioShiba wrote:But do you expect anything less?


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You ought to be careful on not expecting anything, sometimes that leads to bigger surprises.


At 12/26/22 04:34 PM, EdyKel wrote:Well, he is delivering destruction, death, and suffering, to thousands of Ukrainian civilians on Christmas day by having his forces fill their homes, and infrastructure, with joyous to his heart, festive bombs. That may be the true meaning of Christmas to him, despite how this Christmas propaganda on state run Russian media takes artistic license to.

This is not much different than when he used Easter, earlier this year, to come off as religiously pious, by lighting candles in a church, while his forces were celebrating the rebirth of an old style European war in Ukraine.


Well that’s what everyone has to look at it as.


It’s Russian State propaganda. It’s not any different from how other countries that are under the heel of the dictator has used propaganda as a tool.

Response to the Ukraine situation 2022-12-27 16:14:32


At 12/26/22 11:30 PM, DioShiba wrote:
At 12/26/22 04:34 PM, EdyKel wrote:Well, he is delivering destruction, death, and suffering, to thousands of Ukrainian civilians on Christmas day by having his forces fill their homes, and infrastructure, with joyous to his heart, festive bombs. That may be the true meaning of Christmas to him, despite how this Christmas propaganda on state run Russian media takes artistic license to.

This is not much different than when he used Easter, earlier this year, to come off as religiously pious, by lighting candles in a church, while his forces were celebrating the rebirth of an old style European war in Ukraine.

Well that’s what everyone has to look at it as.

It’s Russian State propaganda. It’s not any different from how other countries that are under the heel of the dictator has used propaganda as a tool.


I don't follow much State propaganda from authoritarian countries in the world, thought, I have heard that North Korea's are especially bizarre...

Response to the Ukraine situation 2022-12-27 16:35:20 (edited 2022-12-27 16:36:23)


At 12/24/22 07:44 PM, Gario wrote:would be nice if this sequenced fellow who blocked or muted me would stop posting bullshit in my threads


i just realized this was the ukraine thread


this is not my thread, so uh sorry 'bout that mile667


i retract my complaint, lol


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Response to the Ukraine situation 2022-12-28 02:40:41


At 12/23/22 04:08 PM, Sequenced wrote:If the US can send a trillion dollars to ukraine and top grade military equipment, they can for sure blow up a pipeline.


Lets assume the russian government is behind the nordstream sabotage for the sake of argument.


If that's the case, that creates a very big problem for everyone; because it would mean they have managed to deliver a surgical strike against a vital target in international waters during a time when the Black Sea is under heavy surveillance from US and NATO forces to the point Russian flagships are being hit the moment they enter the field.


And if they can hit a valuable target completely undetected while leaving absolutely no trace of their presence in such a heavily monitored region, then other countries with major port cities and pipeline infrastructures have plenty to worry about doing anything that would piss off the russian government.


Fortunately for the rest of the world, Russian forces doesn't actually have such technology (and here's hoping they never will). Secondly, some dumbass politician in America admitted to having a motive to harm the nordstream project.


The whole point of this war is to keep US #1 economy in the world. It's a proxy war for a reason.


The yankee bigwigs really don't like the EU for some reason. With an attitude like that, I can see them approving of the attack to punish EU nations who buy gas from Russia. I'll wait for more proof before making a decision, but given how so-called "conspiracy theories" nowadays have a funny way of turning into reality nowadays...


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Response to the Ukraine situation 2022-12-28 03:15:10


At 12/28/22 02:40 AM, Yomuchan wrote:Lets assume the russian government is behind the nordstream sabotage for the sake of argument.


Here’s the chasmous holes in Yomuchan’s argument that the explosion was caused by “Russia”, supported by this NY post article.


it would mean they have managed to deliver a surgical strike against a vital target in international waters during a time when the Black Sea is under heavy surveillance from US and NATO forces to the point Russian flagships are being hit the moment they enter the field.

The area lacks underwater surveillance.


Fortunately for the rest of the world, Russian forces doesn't actually have such technology (and here's hoping they never will).

A utilities attack in the area could be undertaken with a submarine or a diver.


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Response to the Ukraine situation 2022-12-28 16:17:27


At 12/28/22 02:40 AM, Yomuchan wrote:
At 12/23/22 04:08 PM, Sequenced wrote:If the US can send a trillion dollars to ukraine and top grade military equipment, they can for sure blow up a pipeline.

Lets assume the russian government is behind the nordstream sabotage for the sake of argument.

If that's the case, that creates a very big problem for everyone; because it would mean they have managed to deliver a surgical strike against a vital target in international waters during a time when the Black Sea is under heavy surveillance from US and NATO forces to the point Russian flagships are being hit the moment they enter the field.

And if they can hit a valuable target completely undetected while leaving absolutely no trace of their presence in such a heavily monitored region, then other countries with major port cities and pipeline infrastructures have plenty to worry about doing anything that would piss off the russian government.

Fortunately for the rest of the world, Russian forces doesn't actually have such technology (and here's hoping they never will). Secondly, some dumbass politician in America admitted to having a motive to harm the nordstream project.


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they literally tell you their plans right in front of you yet leftists refuse to believe USA can do no wrong!!!


The whole point of this war is to keep US #1 economy in the world. It's a proxy war for a reason.


The yankee bigwigs really don't like the EU for some reason. With an attitude like that, I can see them approving of the attack to punish EU nations who buy gas from Russia. I'll wait for more proof before making a decision, but given how so-called "conspiracy theories" nowadays have a funny way of turning into reality nowadays...



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Response to the Ukraine situation 2022-12-28 17:07:59 (edited 2022-12-28 17:10:49)


At 12/28/22 04:17 PM, Sequenced wrote:
At 12/28/22 02:40 AM, Yomuchan wrote:
At 12/23/22 04:08 PM, Sequenced wrote:If the US can send a trillion dollars to ukraine and top grade military equipment, they can for sure blow up a pipeline.

Lets assume the russian government is behind the nordstream sabotage for the sake of argument.

If that's the case, that creates a very big problem for everyone; because it would mean they have managed to deliver a surgical strike against a vital target in international waters during a time when the Black Sea is under heavy surveillance from US and NATO forces to the point Russian flagships are being hit the moment they enter the field.

And if they can hit a valuable target completely undetected while leaving absolutely no trace of their presence in such a heavily monitored region, then other countries with major port cities and pipeline infrastructures have plenty to worry about doing anything that would piss off the russian government.

Fortunately for the rest of the world, Russian forces doesn't actually have such technology (and here's hoping they never will). Secondly, some dumbass politician in America admitted to having a motive to harm the nordstream project.

holy balls thank you for finding this

they literally tell you their plans right in front of you yet leftists refuse to believe USA can do no wrong!!!


Context is everything, considering this was said to deter Russia from invading Ukraine. Not that it matters much, considering that Russia had it off at the time of the incident to try and blackmail Europe, then play victim overit. Man, between you righties, and a foreign national, I doubt you guys can escape a wet paper box with your combined deductive capability.

Response to the Ukraine situation 2022-12-31 03:43:35 (edited 2022-12-31 03:57:24)


(Apologies for the somewhat late reply, was preparing for a new year's party.)


Before I start, I'd like to add that I made a mistake in my previous post. The points where Nordstream was hit was in the exclusive economic zones of Denmark and Sweden - not in international waters.


Sorry 'bout that.


At 12/28/22 04:17 PM, Sequenced wrote:holy balls thank you for finding this

Here's some yankee politicians from some time before the conflict in Ukraine with a similar take which as you can see hasn't changed their tune from two years ago.


Given all of this, I wouldn't be surprised if it actually turns out that the US government had a hand in the attacks.


Of course, I concede that I could also be wrong, and that too is fine. Time will tell all.


they literally tell you their plans right in front of you yet leftists refuse to believe USA can do no wrong!!!


You're dealing with people who are indoctrinated to the point they're willing to hate on command. In this this future where all their naively-cobbled narratives are collapsing in real-time, isolated echo chambers under their control where they can repeat their own gossip to themselves with impunity are their only refuge. It's to be expected - pitiful, yes, but not surprising.


So, don't let their self-imposed ignorance get to you.


After all, the only thing they can do when their misguided rhetoric is faced with hard facts they cannot refute at all is to demand complete censorship, failing to understand that the very purpose of internet forums is multi-directional communication.


And I think that's why they truly fear open discourse between peoples of all nations. In a world where the free exchange of ideas and equal, unhindered communications between peoples is the norm, their propaganda would come under immediate scrutiny, and following that, total breakdown.


I think it's the same kind of fear that resulted in the creation of the great firewall of china.


Best thing to do when they try to start shit with you is to laugh - because if you relax and take a look at the responses, you'll notice how they desperately ignore the crux of the argument, resorting immediately to pathetic personal attacks in an attempt to hide the fact that their feeble excuses don't actually make any sense, and actually fails to justify the behavior of the dimwit politicians at all.


Lets apply their excuse to a hypothetical scenario and see how it goes; if I was a bandit boss and said "that boy is going to get lynched if he's not out of town by sundown", someone asks "how are you going to do that?" and I respond with "I promise you: We will be able to do it." - big shocker, when that boy does get lynched, all suspicion would rightly fall on me and my gang no matter how much anyone on my side says "it was just a threat to get the boy to leave town".


So yeah, I'm gonna sit back, relax, watch the propagandists make fools of themselves and wait and see what kind of comedic blunders happen next. Hey, the "big guy" has made some amusing admissions before, so I'm thinking 2023 will be pretty entertaining too.


Happy (early?) new year!


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Response to the Ukraine situation 2022-12-31 04:01:38 (edited 2022-12-31 04:02:58)


At 12/31/22 03:43 AM, Yomuchan wrote:In fact, as time draws on, the sensationalist clickbait that was 'russia did it' is clearly starting to look all fouled up from multiple angles. Given all of this, I wouldn't be surprised if it actually turns out that the US had a hand in the attacks.

That “open-minded” mask is starting to slip, since you’ve offered nothing to show it’s US,


You're dealing with people who are indoctrinated to the point they're willing to hate on command etc.

And here’s eight lengthy paragraphs that has nothing to do with the topic, and instead strokes the ego of the other contrarian who’s also provided nothing.


Given these chaps block everybody who doesn’t conform to their thinking, I feel like I’m watching a human zoo looking at two people create an comfortable echo chamber cocoon for themselves.


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Response to the Ukraine situation 2023-01-01 00:47:22


At 12/31/22 04:01 AM, TurkeyOnAStick wrote:
At 12/31/22 03:43 AM, Yomuchan wrote:In fact, as time draws on, the sensationalist clickbait that was 'russia did it' is clearly starting to look all fouled up from multiple angles. Given all of this, I wouldn't be surprised if it actually turns out that the US had a hand in the attacks.
That “open-minded” mask is starting to slip, since you’ve offered nothing to show it’s US,

You're dealing with people who are indoctrinated to the point they're willing to hate on command etc.

And here’s eight lengthy paragraphs that has nothing to do with the topic, and instead strokes the ego of the other contrarian who’s also provided nothing.

Given these chaps block everybody who doesn’t conform to their thinking, I feel like I’m watching a human zoo looking at two people create an comfortable echo chamber cocoon for themselves.


Man, these brainiacs are so deep...


They habitually make up stuff and scenarios, drag it out of their butts, present it without proof and then they call it a "debate".


I just wish they would use some other thread for their bullshit crap.



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Response to the Ukraine situation 2023-01-02 06:30:53


Wouldn't call it a proxy war. The US probably IS helping ukraine to weaken Russia, yes, but Russia is invading Ukraine for its own gain, Russia has no proxy in this, it's a blatant direct aggressor.


Ukraine didn't get hurt because it got caught between the skirmishes of 2 other states, Ukraine is getting hurt because its neighbor is horrible and wants to consume its surroundings.

Response to the Ukraine situation 2023-01-02 16:52:31


At 1/2/23 06:30 AM, GoofballPaul wrote:Wouldn't call it a proxy war. The US probably IS helping ukraine to weaken Russia, yes, but Russia is invading Ukraine for its own gain, Russia has no proxy in this, it's a blatant direct aggressor.

Ukraine didn't get hurt because it got caught between the skirmishes of 2 other states, Ukraine is getting hurt because its neighbor is horrible and wants to consume its surroundings.


yes lets ignore the complexities that led to the invasion


ignorance is bliss


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Response to the Ukraine situation 2023-01-02 17:23:27


At 1/2/23 04:52 PM, Sequenced wrote:
At 1/2/23 06:30 AM, GoofballPaul wrote:Wouldn't call it a proxy war. The US probably IS helping ukraine to weaken Russia, yes, but Russia is invading Ukraine for its own gain, Russia has no proxy in this, it's a blatant direct aggressor.

Ukraine didn't get hurt because it got caught between the skirmishes of 2 other states, Ukraine is getting hurt because its neighbor is horrible and wants to consume its surroundings.

yes lets ignore the complexities that led to the invasion

ignorance is bliss


I'm sure you are in bless then, considering that your entire argument is based on unsupported conspiracies in blind defense of a country that is committing blatant and terrible atrocities for the personnel, and egoistical, need of it's dictator.


Response to the Ukraine situation 2023-01-04 16:31:34


France just announced they will supply Ukraine with an unspecified amount of AMX-10 RC armored fighting vehicles/light tanks: AMX-10 RC

Response to the Ukraine situation 2023-01-14 17:34:47


UK will send Challenger II tanks to Ukraine.


Challenging conditions for Russia are about to get even more... uh... challenged?


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Response to the Ukraine situation 2023-01-14 21:49:38


sorry, are tanks useful in the current century? would it be rude to say England and France dumping obsolete equipment?


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Response to the Ukraine situation 2023-01-24 14:24:51



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Response to the Ukraine situation 2023-01-24 20:06:13 (edited 2023-01-24 20:11:26)


Leopards are a go, Germany will send some and will allow everyone else to send theirs, and USA will likely send Abrams tanks, Bradley and Marder IFV are underway, France is considering their options and said they might send Leclerc tanks too. Looks like they stopped taking Russias constant empty threats seriously.

Response to the Ukraine situation 2023-01-24 20:15:25


At 1/24/23 08:06 PM, EyeballEarth wrote:Leopards are a go, Germany will send some and will allow everyone else to send theirs, and USA will likely send Abrams tanks too.


That's good about Germany sending Leopards. Leopards are solid tanks. But, I'm not so sure about the Abrams from the US. From what I read, while a good tank, they are are hard to maintain and take a lot of training to use.

Response to the Ukraine situation 2023-01-24 20:20:38


At 1/24/23 08:15 PM, EdyKel wrote:
At 1/24/23 08:06 PM, EyeballEarth wrote:Leopards are a go, Germany will send some and will allow everyone else to send theirs, and USA will likely send Abrams tanks too.

That's good about Germany sending Leopards. Leopards are solid tanks. But, I'm not so sure about the Abrams from the US. From what I read, while a good tank, they are are hard to maintain and take a lot of training to use.


Did I read it right that they are running on... rocket fuel? Why would US develop a "base tank" that is so expensive to use?


Русский военный корабль, иди нахуй!

And release [the Leopards-done] ATACMS & F-16s!

Response to the Ukraine situation 2023-01-24 20:26:24


At 1/24/23 08:15 PM, EdyKel wrote:
At 1/24/23 08:06 PM, EyeballEarth wrote:Leopards are a go, Germany will send some and will allow everyone else to send theirs, and USA will likely send Abrams tanks too.

That's good about Germany sending Leopards. Leopards are solid tanks. But, I'm not so sure about the Abrams from the US. From what I read, while a good tank, they are are hard to maintain and take a lot of training to use.


They're gas guzzlers because of the turbines, but turbines also mean they can run on almost anything. I assume they'll supply the needed equipment alongside training to handle Abrams, after all there are other countries using Abrams as well so it's not impossible. Plus they'll likely rotate them with Poland and other NATO countries on their border for maintenance like they're already doing with other foreign equipment like Krab and PzH2000 self propelled guns.

Response to the Ukraine situation 2023-01-31 16:23:04


Austria-Hungary are out


https://news.yahoo.com/amphtml/austria-hungary-agree-not-supply-122609830.html


According to the top officials, both countries' position regarding Russia's war against Ukraine is "clear" as they don't provide Ukraine with defense assistance "to prevent a further escalation."


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Response to the Ukraine situation 2023-02-01 00:29:53


At 1/31/23 04:23 PM, SPOOKY-BUM-DRILLER wrote:


According to the top officials, both countries' position regarding Russia's war against Ukraine is "clear" as they don't provide Ukraine with defense assistance "to prevent a further escalation."


Austria should learn their history. Last time they decided to "prevent further escalation" in 1938 ended bad for them...


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Response to the Ukraine situation 2023-02-01 08:40:17 (edited 2023-02-01 08:42:10)


At 1/31/23 04:23 PM, SPOOKY-BUM-DRILLER wrote:Austria-Hungary are out

https://news.yahoo.com/amphtml/austria-hungary-agree-not-supply-122609830.html

According to the top officials, both countries' position regarding Russia's war against Ukraine is "clear" as they don't provide Ukraine with defense assistance "to prevent a further escalation."


There's a difference between Austria and Hungary here. Austria is neutral, and the constitution forbids supplying lethal supplies to third parties currently engaged in hostilities. Hungary is neither.

Response to the Ukraine situation 2023-02-01 11:03:10 (edited 2023-02-01 11:04:55)


At 2/1/23 08:40 AM, EyeballEarth wrote:
At 1/31/23 04:23 PM, SPOOKY-BUM-DRILLER wrote:Austria-Hungary are out

https://news.yahoo.com/amphtml/austria-hungary-agree-not-supply-122609830.html

According to the top officials, both countries' position regarding Russia's war against Ukraine is "clear" as they don't provide Ukraine with defense assistance "to prevent a further escalation."

There's a difference between Austria and Hungary here. Austria is neutral, and the constitution forbids supplying lethal supplies to third parties currently engaged in hostilities. Hungary is neither.


But why do they need supplies to begin with? Didn’t they just receive 100 billion in foreign aid?


….they are using it for the military, right?


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Response to the Ukraine situation 2023-02-01 13:04:05


At 2/1/23 11:03 AM, SPOOKY-BUM-DRILLER wrote:
At 2/1/23 08:40 AM, EyeballEarth wrote:
At 1/31/23 04:23 PM, SPOOKY-BUM-DRILLER wrote:Austria-Hungary are out

https://news.yahoo.com/amphtml/austria-hungary-agree-not-supply-122609830.html

According to the top officials, both countries' position regarding Russia's war against Ukraine is "clear" as they don't provide Ukraine with defense assistance "to prevent a further escalation."

There's a difference between Austria and Hungary here. Austria is neutral, and the constitution forbids supplying lethal supplies to third parties currently engaged in hostilities. Hungary is neither.

But why do they need supplies to begin with? Didn’t they just receive 100 billion in foreign aid?

….they are using it for the military, right?

Ukranian MP Kira Rudyk


what exactly does that have to do with my post

Response to the Ukraine situation 2023-02-01 13:22:23 (edited 2023-02-01 13:24:19)


At 2/1/23 01:04 PM, EyeballEarth wrote:what exactly does that have to do with my post


There is nothing difficult to understand about this post so I will explain it at a 5th grade reading level


They get lots of money, 100,000,000,000. USD.


They are still losing the war. Neighbors say “hey I don’t want any part of this nonsense”


Meanwhile the war front is so dire, it becomes necessary for a public official to get a very overt titjob. Obvious sarcasm, because I honestly don’t know if you still understand at this point.


So where is the money going, little boy?


Can you link these events together or do I need to get a chalk board? Yes or no answer only.


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Response to the Ukraine situation 2023-02-01 13:53:27


At 2/1/23 01:22 PM, SPOOKY-BUM-DRILLER wrote:So where is the money going, little boy?

Can you link these events together or do I need to get a chalk board? Yes or no answer only.

You can see the size of this politician’s breasts on her Twitter feed, rather than the Twitter feed/Reddit post you got this screenshot from.


I’ve multiple problems with your reply, to be frank:

-It’s bollocks,

-It’s a derail from the point about Austria/Hungary,

-It’s dehumanising a person down to a pair of tits,

-This “yes or no answer only” shtick is straight-up obnoxious.


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Response to the Ukraine situation 2023-02-01 14:03:59


At 2/1/23 01:22 PM, SPOOKY-BUM-DRILLER wrote:
At 2/1/23 01:04 PM, EyeballEarth wrote:what exactly does that have to do with my post

There is nothing difficult to understand about this post so I will explain it at a 5th grade reading level

They get lots of money, 100,000,000,000. USD.

They are still losing the war. Neighbors say “hey I don’t want any part of this nonsense”

Meanwhile the war front is so dire, it becomes necessary for a public official to get a very overt titjob. Obvious sarcasm, because I honestly don’t know if you still understand at this point.

So where is the money going, little boy?

Can you link these events together or do I need to get a chalk board? Yes or no answer only.


So, ignoring the obnoxiousness of your reply, Ukraine is still getting a ton of aid because despite Russia floundering in this war, they still have reserves of equipment built up over decades, and means to acquire more equipment as well.


Ukraine does not have anywhere near the same levels of equipment on hand like Russia does. And they can't just build up said equipment in their home country for lacking the infrastructure, and also said country being invaded.