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Response to the Ukraine situation 2022-09-27 14:02:50

At 9/27/22 01:56 PM, Yanclae wrote:
At 9/25/22 10:42 PM, GenericDungeonSlime wrote:
At 9/25/22 10:42 PM, GenericDungeonSlime wrote:
Even now people are talking about 6th generation hybrid warfare, non-kinetic military strikes, autonomous no-contact conflicts, underwater 3D backgammon, meanwhile two ordinary state armies are battling it out with massive artillery barrages and infantry. Your cybernetic psychological warfare center with real time intelligence gets ganked by a 40 year old cruise missile.
That's what I meant 'postmodern'

It sounds like both of you confused a news report on the Ukraine crisis

with a G.I. Joe cartoon.

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Response to the Ukraine situation 2022-09-27 14:06:48 (edited 2022-09-27 14:10:41)

At 9/27/22 01:15 PM, Nu-Travisty wrote:
At 9/27/22 12:46 PM, EdyKel wrote:Sure, but it still leads to global warming by putting in an unnatural amount of CO2 into the atmosphere due to the burning of it in vehicles - leading to sever weather patterns which is billion dollar problem. It's also a finite resource. Once it's used up it can't easily be replaced. It best if we start investing in alternative energy.

Is it a billion dollar problem or a billion dollars going into the pockets of others? It’s just wealth transfer.

dont take this as me saying “big whoop.” Cuz I’m not.

If it affects the climate, you better believe it affects us all, especially in the wallet. It will take more money to fix the problems it made. We are seeing more storm damage to coastal areas due to rising sea levels, or places near rivers that over-flood, or more wildfires due to drought and excessive heat, all leading to more damage on infrastructure and homes. And this leads to more taxpayer money spent to fix these things while home insurance premiums are going up. Not to mention it's affects on agriculture and leading to higher food costs.There is also a toll on human health as well, with more people experiencing allergies due to longer and warmer seasons, as well as heat stress.

I don't think I have come across anyone who has outright said that they wanted to get off of fossil fuels right this moment - at least I can't remember anyone saying that over the last couple of decades. It may be more of the politics of ones side reinforcing that view to make the other side look extreme.

Over the last 40 or 50 years the fossil fuel industry bean aligning themselves with the right more, and now heavily fund the Republican party. About 80% of their campaign donation go to that party. The Republican attitude towards alternative energy drastically changed when Obama became president, where supporting it a few years back earlier was not controversial to them yet - or perhaps they were playing politics and just being the "Party of No"

You guys also brought up the Keystone pipeline for some reason. It had nothing to do with stopping oil. it was about the path of it going through an environmental sensitive area to save a few million dollars, and being questionable approved. There was also a lot pf questions of how this pipeline would handle an extremely poor quality of oil, shale oil, known to be especially hard on pipelines, with a company that had a well known history of pipe leaks. Because of these reasons, it led to a lot of protests, particularly from native Americans who's land it went through. So, the Obama denied it because of these reasons, while the Trump admin said fuck them and revived it, and the Biden admin once again denied it for the above stated reasons.

All valid points, but not the reason behind my post originally.

thwre was a vocal swath of people who thought this would be a real kick in the shins of fossil fuel production at large.

my point, was that it does nothing to stop or help the overall burden.

I just never seen it it my 20+ years online. Maybe we are just reading things differently. I'm just going by history, and what politicians are actually doing on it.

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Response to the Ukraine situation 2022-09-27 16:45:03

At 9/27/22 08:55 AM, GenericDungeonSlime wrote:Who wants to guess who sabotaged the pipeline to Europe?

Reuters on Twitter: "Nord Stream operator says three offshore gas pipelines damaged in one day https://t.co/d1FN0TKFIT https://t.co/MUh8uKbjXd" / Twitter

Speaking of sabotage...

Three offshore lines of the Nord Stream pipeline system supplying Germany with Russian gas suffered “unprecedented” damage on Monday.

Gas pipe leaks at sea are rare. Three at the same time strongly suggests sabotage. How might that be achieved?

With a depth of only around 70m, covert entry into the Baltic Sea by nuclear submarine is very difficult if not impossible.

Divers can operate at such depths, although the currents may be tricky, and any supporting vessel, be it a submarine or surface vessel, would likely have been spotted, given the density of traffic in the area.

The water column - the mix of fresh and salt water - would also make it difficult for a submarine to maintain the right buoyancy for such a mission. Messing around with divers and explosives in such conditions would be an extremely risky venture.

Russian submarines are very well practiced at this sort of thing, though, having honed their skills over decades "investigating" the undersea internet cables running across the north Atlantic.

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Response to the Ukraine situation 2022-09-28 03:50:51

Indicative results for the Ukrainian referendums hosted by Russia:

-Luhansk voted 98.4% to join Russia.

-Zaporizhzhia voted 93.1% to join Russia.

-Kherson voted 87+% to join Russia.

-Donetsk voted 99.2% to join Russia.

which demonstrates that a good way to encourage voter turnout is with support from a Special Military Operation.

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Response to the Ukraine situation 2022-09-28 11:22:47

At 9/28/22 03:50 AM, TurkeyOnAStick wrote:Indicative results for the Ukrainian referendums hosted by Russia:

-Luhansk voted 98.4% to join Russia.
-Zaporizhzhia voted 93.1% to join Russia.
-Kherson voted 87+% to join Russia.
-Donetsk voted 99.2% to join Russia.

which demonstrates that a good way to encourage voter turnout is with support from a Special Military Operation.

So, just like what they do in Mother Russia.

It's just a worthless PR stunt that is not going to change anything at this point.

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Response to the Ukraine situation 2022-09-28 13:30:07

It makes no sense for Russia to destroy their own pipelines when they can simply,

This is a late-breaking story concerning possible tensions in a powder keg region known for hundreds of years of large-scale war.

Lets not be hasty.

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Response to the Ukraine situation 2022-09-28 14:11:57 (edited 2022-09-28 14:23:49)

U.S. Embassy in Moscow urges any Americans in Russia to leave the country through whatever commercial travel options are left

They also mention that US-Russian dual nationals could end up being conscripted. Poland and Bulgaria are also urging their citizens to depart ASAP.

I would hope that these recommendations to GTFO aren't a prelude to something even more terrifying. Alas, too many of us thought the same prior to the events of February 24th.

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Response to the Ukraine situation 2022-09-28 14:38:41 (edited 2022-09-28 14:39:08)

At 9/28/22 01:30 PM, BUM-DRILLER wrote:It makes no sense for Russia to destroy their own pipelines when they can simply,

This is a late-breaking story concerning possible tensions in a powder keg region known for hundreds of years of large-scale war.

Lets not be hasty.

Sweden detected a large explosion in the Baltic sea on Monday night, where the pipes were over 200 feet below water, and in different locations. Very few things can cause damage to them in those locations, and even fewer countries have the ability to sabotage them, but Russia does with their fleet of submarines.

And yes, Russia can claim victimhood over this in an attempt to throw off suspicion and anger at them. They already shut off one pipe over claims they had to fix it, while sending mix messages over wither or not they will reopen it, and that has led to a huge backlash against them.

Russia has been trying to blackmail European countries with their gas since the start of the their invasion, demanding that they drop their opposition and sanctions against them over it. It has also led to a huge rise in far right, and fascist, politicians, who are friendly to Russia, to gain lot of power, who are using those high gas prices to build momentum on.

Russia has a lot to gain from this.

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Response to the Ukraine situation 2022-09-29 19:35:55 (edited 2022-09-29 19:36:02)

Soooo... Now that Russia has called up a partial mobilization, with 10's of thousands of Russians trying to flee the country to avoid being conscripted into being killed, and Russia backtracking on who will actually be conscripted, has led to a lot of disapproval the vast majority of Russians. And you have professional Russian soldiers who are outright saying that these conscripted Russians will die.

Meanwhile, morale is nonexistent among Russian soldiers in Ukraine, who complain about terrible military equipment they get, having to steal food from Ukrainian homes to survive, and getting drunk before going into battles.

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Response to the Ukraine situation 2022-09-30 11:17:47

The threat of a nuclear strike is more real now than it has ever been in my life.

All I can day is don't freak out. We're all gonna make it.

No pods, no casters

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Response to the Ukraine situation 2022-09-30 11:30:53 (edited 2022-09-30 11:32:44)

At 9/30/22 11:17 AM, GenericDungeonSlime wrote:The threat of a nuclear strike is more real now than it has ever been in my life.

All I can day is don't freak out. We're all gonna make it.

Only 2 countries use threats of nuclear strikes these days, North Korea (and Trump) and Russia. Most don't take either that serious. I suspect that Putin, after more humiliating defeats in Ukraine, will mysteriously fall ill and die, like previous Russian figures, and be promptly replaced by the Russian elites, who will withdraw most of their Russian military out of Ukraine while using their state controlled media to tell their people that they won their objective their to save face.

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Response to the Ukraine situation 2022-09-30 12:29:21

At 9/30/22 11:59 AM, TylerFromTexas wrote:
At 9/30/22 11:30 AM, EdyKel wrote:
At 9/30/22 11:17 AM, GenericDungeonSlime wrote:The threat of a nuclear strike is more real now than it has ever been in my life.

All I can day is don't freak out. We're all gonna make it.

Only 2 countries use threats of nuclear strikes these days, North Korea (and Trump) and Russia. Most don't take either that serious. I suspect that Putin, after more humiliating defeats in Ukraine, will mysteriously fall ill and die, like previous Russian figures, and be promptly replaced by the Russian elites, who will withdraw most of their Russian military out of Ukraine while using their state controlled media to tell their people that they won their objective their to save face.

Ra-ra-rasPUTIN lover of the Russian Queen…
They put some poison into his wine…

Aside from all the mysterious deaths of Russian opposition leaders these days (though, Alexei Navalny survived a poisoning attempt but is jailed), I was actually thinking of Stalin, who died quite suddenly, after rapidly declining in cognitive ability - though the official cause was a stroke... There is quite a funny and entertaining movie about it. But there are persistent conspiracy theories over his death.

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Response to the Ukraine situation 2022-09-30 15:53:59

At 9/28/22 01:30 PM, BUM-DRILLER wrote:It makes no sense for Russia to destroy their own pipelines when they can simply,

This is a late-breaking story concerning possible tensions in a powder keg region known for hundreds of years of large-scale war.

Lets not be hasty.

More details:

Although both pipelines had gas in them that is now leaking out into the Baltic Sea in a literally unprecedented ecological disaster, neither was operational at the time of the explosions. Putin had used Nord Stream 1 over the last six months to blackmail Europe by gradually reducing gas flows and periodically shutting it off for “maintenance.” Gazprom then stopped it completely on September 2. Nord Stream 2 was never operational. Ukrainian officials and energy experts had long said that Russia would invade as soon as Nord Stream 2 was complete. And it did.

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Response to the Ukraine situation 2022-09-30 16:07:26 (edited 2022-09-30 16:18:41)

At 9/30/22 03:53 PM, EdyKel wrote:
At 9/28/22 01:30 PM, BUM-DRILLER wrote:It makes no sense for Russia to destroy their own pipelines when they can simply,

This is a late-breaking story concerning possible tensions in a powder keg region known for hundreds of years of large-scale war.

Lets not be hasty.

More details:

Russians are the new Jews behind everything wrong CONFIRMED (by anonymous sources)

Conspiracy theorist.

Russians can simply,

but you choose to believe that the most slandered people on the planet do everything wrong whenever.

Hey Edy Kel of California, don’t look now, but Boris is inside your walls, listening in!

Hey Edward K. of central California don’t look now but Ivan is underneath your desk!

Hello again [redacted] I am here to inform you a babushka is raiding your carefully inventoried Trader Joe’s pantry of beets.

seriously @edykel do not @ me.

hello

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Response to the Ukraine situation 2022-09-30 16:18:09 (edited 2022-09-30 16:21:58)

At 9/30/22 04:07 PM, BUM-DRILLER wrote:
At 9/30/22 03:53 PM, EdyKel wrote:
At 9/28/22 01:30 PM, BUM-DRILLER wrote:It makes no sense for Russia to destroy their own pipelines when they can simply,

This is a late-breaking story concerning possible tensions in a powder keg region known for hundreds of years of large-scale war.

Lets not be hasty.

More details:

Russians are the new Jews CONFIRMED (by anonymous sources)

Conspiracy theorist.

Russians can simply,

but you choose to believe that the most slandered people on the planet do everything wrong whenever.

Hey Edy Kel of California, don’t look now, but Boris is inside your walls, listening in!

Hey Edward K. of central California don’t look now but Ivan is underneath your desk!

Hello again [redacted] I am here to inform you a babushka is raiding your carefully inventoried Trader Joe’s pantry of beets.

seriously @edykel do not @ me.

Doesn't take much to trigger you. what happened to:

At 9/28/22 10:01 PM, BUM-DRILLER wrote:why can’t people just relax around here?

Oh, what were your conspiracies about Jan 6th, and the 2020 elections, again? Enquiring minds want to know!

So, you need to relax, and stop being a hypocrite.

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Response to the Ukraine situation 2022-09-30 16:19:34 (edited 2022-09-30 16:20:17)

At 9/30/22 04:18 PM, EdyKel wrote:

Yellow aura privilege

1st informal request to cease and desist.

hello

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Response to the Ukraine situation 2022-09-30 16:28:15

At 9/30/22 04:19 PM, BUM-DRILLER wrote:
At 9/30/22 04:18 PM, EdyKel wrote:

Yellow aura privilege

1st informal request to cease and desist.

You really need to stop stalking my channel. Go outside for once and get some fresh air.

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Response to the Ukraine situation 2022-09-30 16:28:55

At 9/30/22 04:28 PM, EdyKel wrote:
At 9/30/22 04:19 PM, BUM-DRILLER wrote:
At 9/30/22 04:18 PM, EdyKel wrote:

Yellow aura privilege

1st informal request to cease and desist.

You really need to stop stalking my channel. Go outside for once and get some fresh air.

1st formal request to cease and desist.

hello

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Response to the Ukraine situation 2022-09-30 16:31:31 (edited 2022-09-30 16:44:06)

At 9/30/22 04:28 PM, BUM-DRILLER wrote:
At 9/30/22 04:28 PM, EdyKel wrote:
At 9/30/22 04:19 PM, BUM-DRILLER wrote:
At 9/30/22 04:18 PM, EdyKel wrote:

Yellow aura privilege

1st informal request to cease and desist.

You really need to stop stalking my channel. Go outside for once and get some fresh air.

1st formal request to cease and desist.

The door is that way. <-

Oh, and you don't own the place, in case you believe otherwise.

Lastly....

Radiant and glowing, a bright yellow aura is often an indication of happiness, confidence, and an overall pleasant and social nature.

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Response to the Ukraine situation 2022-09-30 18:11:18

At 9/30/22 04:31 PM, EdyKel wrote:Lastly....
Radiant and glowing, a bright yellow aura is often an indication of happiness, confidence, and an overall pleasant and social nature.

Fuck, I didn’t get the memo.

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Response to the Ukraine situation 2022-09-30 20:10:50

I also wish people would stop promoting this Russian propaganda around here that they get through some MAGA mouth piece. Russia is not treated like some red headed step sister in the world, not when the country's biggest commodities are nukes and fossil fuels. And it's kinda hard to respect a country that is continuously installing dictators who mistreat their own people while anchoring themselves to the 1800's to deny individual and civil rights to them - and sending them off in droves to fight their wars without proper food and military equipment.

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Response to the Ukraine situation 2022-09-30 20:15:40

At 9/30/22 08:10 PM, EdyKel wrote:I also wish people would stop promoting this Russian propaganda around here that they get through some MAGA mouth piece. Russia is not treated like some red headed step sister in the world, not when the country's biggest commodities are nukes and fossil fuels. And it's kinda hard to respect a country that is continuously installing dictators who mistreat their own people while anchoring themselves to the 1800's to deny individual and civil rights to them - and sending them off in droves to fight their wars without proper food and military equipment.

As much as I would like this given how humans are irrational I doubt that's gonna happen anytime soon.

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Response to the Ukraine situation 2022-09-30 20:54:45

At 9/30/22 04:07 PM, BUM-DRILLER wrote:
At 9/30/22 03:53 PM, EdyKel wrote:
At 9/28/22 01:30 PM, BUM-DRILLER wrote:It makes no sense for Russia to destroy their own pipelines when they can simply,

This is a late-breaking story concerning possible tensions in a powder keg region known for hundreds of years of large-scale war.

Lets not be hasty.

More details:

Russians are the new Jews behind everything wrong CONFIRMED (by anonymous sources)

Conspiracy theorist.

Russians can simply,

but you choose to believe that the most slandered people on the planet do everything wrong whenever.

Hey Edy Kel of California, don’t look now, but Boris is inside your walls, listening in!

Hey Edward K. of central California don’t look now but Ivan is underneath your desk!

Hello again [redacted] I am here to inform you a babushka is raiding your carefully inventoried Trader Joe’s pantry of beets.

seriously @edykel do not @ me.

How's this then?

How wild and baseless claims that Biden blew up the Nord Stream pipelines moved seamlessly between Tucker Carlson and the Kremlin

Tucker Carlson pushed a Russian conspiracy theory suggesting the US blew up the Nord Stream pipeline.

The claim was then recycled by Russian state TV, and other far-right influencers.

Kremlin and US far-right propaganda often mirror each other.

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Response to the Ukraine situation 2022-10-01 12:38:54 (edited 2022-10-01 12:39:10)

It's only been a week since the partial mobilization, a few days since the illegal land grab, and Russia is already facing a humiliating defeat.

Russia withdraws troops from Lyman as Ukraine gains ground in annexed city

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Response to the Ukraine situation 2022-10-01 15:24:47

At 10/1/22 12:38 PM, EdyKel wrote:It's only been a week since the partial mobilization, a few days since the illegal land grab, and Russia is already facing a humiliating defeat.

Russia withdraws troops from Lyman as Ukraine gains ground in annexed city

Putin's dick is shrinking fast.

F*ck Putin the murderer, RIP Alexei Navalny

F*ck SCOTUS

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Response to the Ukraine situation 2022-10-01 17:04:58 (edited 2022-10-01 17:12:14)

At 10/1/22 03:24 PM, RoboHex wrote:
At 10/1/22 12:38 PM, EdyKel wrote:It's only been a week since the partial mobilization, a few days since the illegal land grab, and Russia is already facing a humiliating defeat.

Russia withdraws troops from Lyman as Ukraine gains ground in annexed city

Putin's dick is shrinking fast.

All the more so that Russians, apparently, like strong looking leaders, not weak and incompetent ones. His days may be coming to an end, especially if his forces continue to have these types of embarrassing loses.

And we are talking about a guy who use to pose bare chested all the time to show how strong he was, but now he looks pretty fragile.

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Response to the Ukraine situation 2022-10-01 22:33:10

At 10/1/22 05:04 PM, EdyKel wrote:
At 10/1/22 03:24 PM, RoboHex wrote:
At 10/1/22 12:38 PM, EdyKel wrote:It's only been a week since the partial mobilization, a few days since the illegal land grab, and Russia is already facing a humiliating defeat.

Russia withdraws troops from Lyman as Ukraine gains ground in annexed city

Putin's dick is shrinking fast.

All the more so that Russians, apparently, like strong looking leaders, not weak and incompetent ones. His days may be coming to an end, especially if his forces continue to have these types of embarrassing loses.

And we are talking about a guy who use to pose bare chested all the time to show how strong he was, but now he looks pretty fragile.

My biggest worry at this point is you’ve got an egomaniac and insecure piece of shit getting his dick kicked in by Ukraine…

this egomaniac has floated the nuclear option in talks. Douchebags like him and the little fatty in North Korea are the last people who should be able to push a nuclear button.

that’s my one worry at this point, that the stupid prick pushes the nuclear button setting off the “final” chain of events…

Formerly Travis… yeah that one (I’m bored)

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Response to the Ukraine situation 2022-10-01 23:27:08

At 10/1/22 10:33 PM, Nu-Travisty wrote:
At 10/1/22 05:04 PM, EdyKel wrote:
At 10/1/22 03:24 PM, RoboHex wrote:
At 10/1/22 12:38 PM, EdyKel wrote:It's only been a week since the partial mobilization, a few days since the illegal land grab, and Russia is already facing a humiliating defeat.

Russia withdraws troops from Lyman as Ukraine gains ground in annexed city

Putin's dick is shrinking fast.

All the more so that Russians, apparently, like strong looking leaders, not weak and incompetent ones. His days may be coming to an end, especially if his forces continue to have these types of embarrassing loses.

And we are talking about a guy who use to pose bare chested all the time to show how strong he was, but now he looks pretty fragile.

My biggest worry at this point is you’ve got an egomaniac and insecure piece of shit getting his dick kicked in by Ukraine…

this egomaniac has floated the nuclear option in talks. Douchebags like him and the little fatty in North Korea are the last people who should be able to push a nuclear button.

that’s my one worry at this point, that the stupid prick pushes the nuclear button setting off the “final” chain of events…

Putin would be placing his own people in regions of Ukraine he recently annexed, along with his allies in countries in proximity to Ukraine (including his own country) , in danger, if he used a nuke. And using a nuke, or something to that effect, would have huge international blow-back.

The invasion stirred up a hornet nest against Russia, a nuke would create a swarm against them by placing their own own allies, China and India, against them. It would be suicidal if Putin used a nuke, and I suspect that he would be taken down by his own people before he gave the call to use it.

I think Putin's call for nukes is more of a scare tactic to weaken or get Ukrainian forces to stop fighting back.

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Response to the Ukraine situation 2022-10-02 00:09:41

At 10/1/22 11:27 PM, EdyKel wrote:
At 10/1/22 10:33 PM, Nu-Travisty wrote:
At 10/1/22 05:04 PM, EdyKel wrote:
At 10/1/22 03:24 PM, RoboHex wrote:
At 10/1/22 12:38 PM, EdyKel wrote:It's only been a week since the partial mobilization, a few days since the illegal land grab, and Russia is already facing a humiliating defeat.

Russia withdraws troops from Lyman as Ukraine gains ground in annexed city

Putin's dick is shrinking fast.

All the more so that Russians, apparently, like strong looking leaders, not weak and incompetent ones. His days may be coming to an end, especially if his forces continue to have these types of embarrassing loses.

And we are talking about a guy who use to pose bare chested all the time to show how strong he was, but now he looks pretty fragile.

My biggest worry at this point is you’ve got an egomaniac and insecure piece of shit getting his dick kicked in by Ukraine…

this egomaniac has floated the nuclear option in talks. Douchebags like him and the little fatty in North Korea are the last people who should be able to push a nuclear button.

that’s my one worry at this point, that the stupid prick pushes the nuclear button setting off the “final” chain of events…

Putin would be placing his own people in regions of Ukraine he recently annexed, along with his allies in countries in proximity to Ukraine (including his own country) , in danger, if he used a nuke. And using a nuke, or something to that effect, would have huge international blow-back.

The invasion stirred up a hornet nest against Russia, a nuke would create a swarm against them by placing their own own allies, China and India, against them. It would be suicidal if Putin used a nuke, and I suspect that he would be taken down by his own people before he gave the call to use it.

I think Putin's call for nukes is more of a scare tactic to weaken or get Ukrainian forces to stop fighting back.

I think even if he gave the order people in the military would finally see that things have gone too far and say, "no way, we aren't suicidal over this war" and decided to overthrow him at that point.

Common sense isn't so common anymore

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Response to the Ukraine situation 2022-10-02 03:31:13 (edited 2022-10-02 03:31:35)

At 10/2/22 12:09 AM, LordJaric wrote:
At 10/1/22 11:27 PM, EdyKel wrote:
At 10/1/22 10:33 PM, Nu-Travisty wrote:
At 10/1/22 05:04 PM, EdyKel wrote:
At 10/1/22 03:24 PM, RoboHex wrote:
At 10/1/22 12:38 PM, EdyKel wrote:It's only been a week since the partial mobilization, a few days since the illegal land grab, and Russia is already facing a humiliating defeat.

Russia withdraws troops from Lyman as Ukraine gains ground in annexed city

Putin's dick is shrinking fast.

All the more so that Russians, apparently, like strong looking leaders, not weak and incompetent ones. His days may be coming to an end, especially if his forces continue to have these types of embarrassing loses.

And we are talking about a guy who use to pose bare chested all the time to show how strong he was, but now he looks pretty fragile.

My biggest worry at this point is you’ve got an egomaniac and insecure piece of shit getting his dick kicked in by Ukraine…

this egomaniac has floated the nuclear option in talks. Douchebags like him and the little fatty in North Korea are the last people who should be able to push a nuclear button.

that’s my one worry at this point, that the stupid prick pushes the nuclear button setting off the “final” chain of events…

Putin would be placing his own people in regions of Ukraine he recently annexed, along with his allies in countries in proximity to Ukraine (including his own country) , in danger, if he used a nuke. And using a nuke, or something to that effect, would have huge international blow-back.

The invasion stirred up a hornet nest against Russia, a nuke would create a swarm against them by placing their own own allies, China and India, against them. It would be suicidal if Putin used a nuke, and I suspect that he would be taken down by his own people before he gave the call to use it.

I think Putin's call for nukes is more of a scare tactic to weaken or get Ukrainian forces to stop fighting back.

I think even if he gave the order people in the military would finally see that things have gone too far and say, "no way, we aren't suicidal over this war" and decided to overthrow him at that point.

Given that the public’s reluctance to the war gained more traction after the call-up, I think if Putin gave the order they would push the nuclear button first and ask questions later. So long as

-Russian lives are not directly involved, and

-Everybody holds Putin solely responsible for taking the nuclear option.

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