At 9/25/17 07:23 PM, Skiddle wrote: http://lolkaspy.newgrounds.com/audio/ can someone tell me where all his stuff went?

No, but you can send him a PM.

At 9/25/17 02:24 PM, BoxerBraydog wrote: All of the below was made with Magix Music Maker

@Mopik @Lusin @GearWax and any others reading this

Some new info regarding magix music maker tracks :
From now on, we need you to include on your reports and/or flags a link to any reference material that clearly identifies the use of magix stock loops.

If you mates come across with something like this one (when the user states stock loops or "soundpool" use), those are safe to report and/or flag by the author comments :

• Unpublished Submission

Otherwise please provide some extra information.

Also, regarding music maker jam tracks :
Those are still safe to report and/or flag.

At 9/26/17 08:26 AM, LexaHergon wrote:

At 9/25/17 02:24 PM, BoxerBraydog wrote: All of the below was made with Magix Music Maker

@Mopik @Lusin @GearWax and any others reading this

How am I supposed to ID stock loops though? I have never used Magix so I have no idea what they sound like,

At 9/26/17 12:34 PM, GearWax wrote: How am I supposed to ID stock loops though? I have never used Magix so I have no idea what they sound like,

Well, It's a major butt-pain, but there's a lot references scattered all over youtube if you have the time and patience.
I know it sucks, but trust me mate, there is a good reason to ask this.

On the bright side , there's still plenty of music maker jam stuff available to flag.
Those are 100 % stock loops based.

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Prove me if I'm wrong, but I'm 100% sure I saw in the rules Newgrounds never accepted covers or remixes of songs that were originally played on the radio.

At 9/27/17 07:41 PM, MonsterboyGD wrote: And also some Magix. I saw you guys reporting magix maker so I thought I would help

I forgot to tag you on my last post. Please read this mate.

At 9/26/17 08:26 AM, LexaHergon wrote:

At 9/25/17 02:24 PM, BoxerBraydog wrote: All of the below was made with Magix Music Maker

@Mopik @Lusin @GearWax and any others reading this

Some new info regarding magix music maker tracks :
From now on, we need you to include on your reports and/or flags a link to any reference material that clearly identifies the use of magix stock loops.

If you mates come across with something like this one (when the user states stock loops or "soundpool" use), those are safe to report and/or flag by the author comments :
http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/109887
Otherwise please provide some extra information.

Also, regarding music maker jam tracks :
Those are still safe to report and/or flag.

Ohh boy, I think this was my doing. (long reply warning)

I woke up to see most of my tracks gone and a few notifications saying I was banned from the audio stuff.
So I went down the rabbit hole to find out why. What I found was that Newgrounds guidelines regarding audio submissions were/is faulty, at least when its regarding the submission of MAGIX Music Maker (not Jam).

First I went to find MAGIX's Terms and Conditions.
http://www.magix.com/gb/terms-and-conditions/

Then their 'End User License Agreement' (EULA).
http://www.magix.com/gb/eula/consumer/

And then their own statements regarding publishing tracks made with their programs.
http://magazine.magix.com/en/commercial-use-of-music/

Nowhere in their terms and conditions, EULA, or in their own statements do they say: "MAGIX Music Maker automatically puts all songs you create with it under its own license" (as it says in Newgrounds guidelines)

To quote from MAGIX's statement:
" Can I publish the songs I’ve made with Music Maker loops and sounds online?

The rule is as follows: As long as your own songs – which contain loops or sounds from Music Maker/ Music Maker Jam – are not used commercially, you can upload them to Soundcloud, Youtube or other portals.

Just so there are no misunderstandings: MAGIX does not own the rights to your compositions. You own the copyright to these. Only the sounds and loops that you have used are protected by copyright."

and

" What if my song doesn’t contain MAGIX loops or sounds?

If you’ve created a song in Music Maker that doesn’t consist of loops or sound samples and just contains audio tracks you’ve recorded yourself, you don’t need a license. You can reproduce this music commercially. This is also the case if you have created your own loops using the MAGIX Music Maker Loop Designer.

When you create your own melodies without ready loops using instruments from Music Maker (e.g. Vita, String Ensemble, Rock Drums, Revolta …), commercial use is possible, since these are your own melodies."

Basically: You own the copyright to your work, as long as you don't use others copyright work in said work (ie loops and samples).

I got into contact with Tom Fulp because of this, and got my stuff republished.
I make my own instruments with the tools (VST's) provided in MAGIX Music Maker, and other VST's found all over the web. If I ever open up a loop or sample, its for reference and never in my actual published work.

MAGIX Music Maker (MMM for short) is a tool, and a tool is only as good as the person wielding it. Unfortunately this tool comes with loops and samples (for the newbies) as well as proper means of making music (support for VST's for the """"pros""""). This attracts the newbies, punishing the """"pros"""" as a result.

If you need tips on how to detect whether or not loops and samples are used in a piece, I guess I could try to help.
Listen for reverb and delay.
The noobs don't know how to add that stuff, even if it's pretty simple.
How does the instruments loop?
If the instrument has reverb or delay, it might loop strangely. This usually occurs in the beginning of the loop since the MAGIX team made some of the loops have built-in reverb or delay. So in the very start of a loop, it will have audio data from its own reverb, reverb that haven't happened yet so to speak.
Do instruments sound synthetic?
None of the loops or samples of real instruments included in MMM sound synthetic, because they are recordings of real instruments. The VST's MMM comes with have synthetic sounding instruments.
Electronic music loops and samples will have effects out of the scope of possibilities of this program.
Dubstep wubs and such is pretty much impossible to make without downloading other VST's (they exist, but are not in the MMM package).
Effects that last longer than the loop itself
These effects are usually baked-in to the loop, so if you hear effects last longer and over many loops its probably their own samples. Example: Filter cutout gradually changing, glide changing transition time.
Read description, check the uploader.
Pretty obvious. If the uploader writes a whole lot in the description about what effects and VST's used, its most likely their own instruments and samples.

I'm working on the assumption that the newbies using included loops and samples have no idea how to implement more advanced stuff, since they usually have no idea how, if they did they wouldn't be using loops and samples in the first place.

Sorry for the long comment.

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Self-explanatory.

https://soundcloud.com/nocopyrightsounds/anna-yvette-afk-ncs-release

At 9/28/17 09:46 AM, nuFF3 wrote:

At 9/26/17 08:26 AM, LexaHergon wrote: Some new info regarding magix music maker tracks :

Ohh boy, I think this was my doing.

You are right mate. Your case is one of the reasons for this.

MAGIX Music Maker (MMM for short) is a tool, and a tool is only as good as the person wielding it. Unfortunately this tool comes with loops and samples (for the newbies) as well as proper means of making music (support for VST's for the """"pros""""). This attracts the newbies, punishing the """"pros"""" as a result.

That sums it up pretty well. That's what we are trying to avoid.
Even if a lot of users make only pre-made loops based music, there are cases of Magix being used on a legit way.
So now, we need to walk the extra mile and look for concrete evidence about stock loops usage.

If you need tips on how to detect whether or not loops and samples are used in a piece, I guess I could try to help.

Thanks. That's some good info, specially coming from someone quite familiar with the software.

@ADR3-N @Troisnyx @Exedor @NekoMika @Mich
@BoxerBraydog @Lusin @Mopik @GearWax @MonsterboyGD @BraydenGD
@EveryoneElseImayBeForgettingAbout

why'd you mention me? what do I have to do with this? XD (sorry)

At 9/29/17 05:50 AM, BraydenGD wrote: why'd you mention me? what do I have to do with this? XD (sorry)

Lol me too yeah, I know I report a lot, but never because someone used Magix

At 9/29/17 08:08 PM, GearWax wrote:

At 9/29/17 05:50 AM, BraydenGD wrote: why'd you mention me? what do I have to do with this? XD (sorry)

Lol me too yeah, I know I report a lot, but never because someone used Magix

I just wanted to provide you mates with some reading material.

I just wanted to provide you mates with some reading material.

Ok then, acceptable xD

This is just a muffled version of this.

And THIS was stolen from here.

At 9/30/17 05:42 PM, tezman58 wrote: When I flag the submissions and post them here I still get some points right? Just wondering, thanks!

When you flag the submissions, you get points, yes. Posting here has no effect on your whistle, although I do wish you'd just paste the links together like so so I can go through them faster!

text
NG link
text 2
link of source

Repeat as needed.

Posting them one at a time as links makes it hard to see and also means the little NG player script won't tell me at a glance if the mp3 is identical next to a YT link which drops down a YT player. So it takes me more clicks.

I appreciate that it's not a giant list, but at the same time, it's a lot of notifications and double and triple posts and can look like DSB level thread bumping and post padding.

At 10/2/17 05:53 PM, BoxerBraydog wrote: I noticed that last time I reported a boatload of Magix Music Maker tracks on here, none of them were removed.

Did I do something wrong?

Thanks to some users actually using the software legitimately -- not using any loops, so no copyright infringement -- we're having to check more thoroughly. Disregard this if you attached sources or otherwise indicated loops were used, though, and shoot me a link to your post. Sometimes this thread is a bit hard to keep up with and I get lost, admittedly.

At 10/3/17 11:50 AM, BoxerBraydog wrote: So what I'm trying to say is, whether or not it's made with loops, if it was with the help of the infamous MMM, it's against the rules.

The loops are copyrighted, however, MMM does have a feature where people can write music and design loops, albeit lacking. If you read where you were mentioned a few days ago, we went over that in the thread and asked people to please identify loops from here on out. Sorry for the confusion!

At 10/3/17 11:55 AM, ADR3-N wrote:

At 10/3/17 11:50 AM, BoxerBraydog wrote: So what I'm trying to say is, whether or not it's made with loops, if it was with the help of the infamous MMM, it's against the rules.

The loops are copyrighted, however, MMM does have a feature where people can write music and design loops, albeit lacking. If you read where you were mentioned a few days ago, we went over that in the thread and asked people to please identify loops from here on out. Sorry for the confusion!

IIRC, MMM has a blanket ban on it on NG because in the MMM Terms of Useage, anything made with that program automatically belongs to the makers. Has this changed?

At 10/4/17 03:42 PM, BrokenDeck wrote:

At 10/3/17 11:55 AM, ADR3-N wrote:

At 10/3/17 11:50 AM, BoxerBraydog wrote: So what I'm trying to say is, whether or not it's made with loops, if it was with the help of the infamous MMM, it's against the rules.

The loops are copyrighted, however, MMM does have a feature where people can write music and design loops, albeit lacking. If you read where you were mentioned a few days ago, we went over that in the thread and asked people to please identify loops from here on out. Sorry for the confusion!

IIRC, MMM has a blanket ban on it on NG because in the MMM Terms of Useage, anything made with that program automatically belongs to the makers. Has this changed?

"because in the MMM Terms of Useage, anything made with that program automatically belongs to the makers."
This is not true.
Read my last response here.
It's fairly long, but it gets the point across: MAGIX does not own your creations made with their software, only the loops that comes with the software package (their copyright material).

Side note:
Even if you use their loops and samples, they do not disallow you from uploading your creations. As long as you (the creator of the creation) do not use it commercially (selling it, earn from ads, etc).

MMM is a tool, and a tool is only as good as the person wielding it. This goes for all DAW's.

At 10/4/17 05:22 PM, nuFF3 wrote: It's fairly long, but it gets the point across: MAGIX does not own your creations made with their software, only the loops that comes with the software package (their copyright material).

Ah it appears they have changed their ToS. About time. That's good to hear

https://stryker92.newgrounds.com/

This account is definitely full of stolen content, even some of this guy's audio has been removed two times (and he was the first uploader of the song La Campanella Nu Rave by Cranky, which is already gone.)

• 

  brokendick

  by TheBetterAudioPortal

  brokendick

  Song

  Pop

  9,843 Views

  PLAY

This is funny, but at the same time its damaging some people's ears, even at the end.

At 10/7/17 12:14 AM, BraydenGD wrote: https://stryker92.newgrounds.com/

This account is definitely full of stolen content, even some of this guy's audio has been removed two times (and he was the first uploader of the song La Campanella Nu Rave by Cranky, which is already gone.)

Could you point out some sources? Or show me which ones you know for sure are not his work?

At 10/7/17 01:03 AM, EDM164 wrote:
Could you point out some sources? Or show me which ones you know for sure are not his work?

I can't point out any YouTube ones, but he has stolen audio before so I'm 50% sure he did steal audio.

• Unpublished Submission

I'm not sure he made this one, and I looked up songs with the song title but couldn't find any that sound like this.

EDIT 2: It's by Makou.

At 10/7/17 03:05 AM, BraydenGD wrote: I can't point out any YouTube ones, but he has stolen audio before so I'm 50% sure he did steal audio.

I'll look into it. I've had my eye on this one for a while. Something seemed not quite right but I wasn't able to put a finger on it.

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Stolen from The Living Tombstone, but I really wish TLT posted this on Newgrounds. Loads of people have been stealing it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6-ZGAGcJrk

A remix of Boney M's Rasputin, but it's definitely not his.

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Source:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgGzAKP_HuM

A sample from an asdfmovie video:

• Unpublished Submission

Twenty One Pilots - Heathens:

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Source:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UprcpdwuwCg

Tiesto and KSHMR feat. Vassy - Secrets:

• Unpublished Submission

Source:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dr1nN__-2Po

A nightcore of a Bossfight song:

• Unpublished Submission

Source:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_vQpZJUHNY

(but the ng version is slightly louder)

A cut version of INTERSTELLAR RETRIBUTION and other songs:

• Unpublished Submission

One of the songs he/she used:

https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/674853

Interstellar Retribution by Kommisar and another guy cut:

• Unpublished Submission

Source:

https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/674853

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Found this in the recently submitted audio page. Uses Loops from Garageband.

At 10/11/17 12:23 PM, Skiddle wrote: http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/769561
Found this in the recently submitted audio page. Uses Loops from Garageband.

I'm sorry for not telling this, but here's the regulations.

The GarageBand software license agreement says:

"GarageBand Software. You may use the Apple and third party audio loop content (Audio Content), contained in or otherwise included with the Apple Software, on a royalty-free basis, to create your own original music compositions or audio projects. You may broadcast and/or distribute your own music compositions or audio projects that were created using the Audio Content, however, individual audio loops may not be commercially or otherwise distributed on a standalone basis, nor may they be repackaged in whole or in part as audio samples, sound effects or music beds."

You can check here : https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201808
So, that means I can upload songs created from the loops - not upload loops only.

I already told @ADR3-N.

I found one, great song, but unfortunately not original

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Thief -Ookay

Update:

I think I could do this as a full time job, there's so many non-copyrighed songs on here

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One more

Here's a link to that song on YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPfMb50dsOk