At 6/19/15 01:31 PM, Syrreal wrote:
At 6/19/15 05:43 AM, HerbieG wrote:
At 6/18/15 08:16 PM, Syrreal wrote:
At 6/18/15 07:51 PM, HerbieG wrote:
You should feel happy about it. Rendering is a problem that can sometimes be fixed by the user - of course not always depending on multiple factors. But there are other situations were you are completely clueless as a user.
I remember one example of that situation for me, it's
For some reason it is completely not giving me any achievements. I tried to PM the author, but got no response. Also this game seems to be not leaving any cookie, sol files, so I cannot erase the progress to change something and try again, maybe it is using the NG saving system (no erase button), or an external server of some kind, but nonetheless I cannot do anything about it.
Examples:
1) Big surprise - Gamezhero game lol:
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/568563 - "100 Earned Money" only unlocks for 20-30 % of the players.
Ahh, I remember this game, I liked it actually. And I am among the 70%, but it is only 5 points, so no big deal.
2) http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/593406 - "What Can I Say" only unlocks for half of the players.
3) http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/597083 - "Boom Duck" doesn't spawn enough zombies to finish the challenge and even the author of the game responded to me without a solution for it.
Still will be playing these, so I'll check'em out. About the latter game: I played something very similiar to it, but I don't exactly remember what was its title.
4) Forgot name of the game - There is also a game were you fly with a joint through a flappy bird stage and when you don't die in a specific spot for a very specific amount of points you will never get the medal because it saves online and you cannot reset it.
Yeah, there are some games with ridiculous conditions for earning some medals. Do something with a specific combination of keys in a certain part of the screen in a certain amount of time or in a certain moment of the game or something like that. What's more, they are usually worth 5-10 points, so they are really not worth the effort, since they are harder to obtain than lots of 25/50/100 points medals. It's like "I ain't dyin' for this".
But I can see people unlocking the medals everyday, so they all cannot have only old Flash installed.
Correct. They don't install an old flash player. It just works. Everything above is known for the medal moderators since months or years and it doesn't seem to be fixed in the near future. I have to accept it as well as a brick falling on my head as well as everyone else. But this can be expanded -> I can only try to build it up properly that it runs as good as possible and attach every brick on my side. Newgrounds is unstable thanks to the not moderated achievement system. Meaning authors create the medals by themselves and without a "moderator" reviewing it (and with moderator I mean the person or persons who can work on the site directly - not the medal moderators moderating it).
As I know there was a rather short period in the Newgrounds' history, when all medals had to be approved by the Moderators/the Staff and every single time I play one of these older games I can be 100% sure that all the medals will work, although they are rather harder to earn, since - my personal opinion - the difficulty level of these games was much more higher than the present ones. This old medal system is still working well, although some of these games are already 5-7 years old. New medals get removed because of being broken, these ones - never.
All the other stuff is up to the authors or maybe the respective staff. And remembering how long it took the staff to fix the medal pages it will most likely never be cared of (1 year or 2 years again?). But can you really remove a medal people can unlock and guarantee a mistake on Newgrounds without someone looking into it and maybe searching the contact with the people who have the problem? Nope.
Definitely. But this would require (a lot of) more efforts, more time, more attention etc. I sometimes think about one thing: maybe the Staff should be expanded with creating of respective sections to deal with certain types of problems? I remember when I started posting info about medals from removed games: there was one game with an information "This game was deleted" (or something like that), not removed by Moderators or the author, and I remember that even Nijsse admitted that he couldn't fix that by himself. So maybe Newgrounds need more respected people to gain broader access to the Portal's servers' properities or something? I mean Newgrounds is an enormous Thing and if it should/could work as well as it is possible...
There is also another problem - the already mentioned by me medals from removed games. Since I began doing it I already posted info about 16 games like these, but this issue still hasn't been resolved. These games totally contain some thousands of points and if removed at the same time - this could cause a max-Richter-scale earthquake for the medal list and probably many people would complain if not even rage. But something has to be done about it since it gives a clear advantage for some Gamers, making them harder to catch by newly signed-in Newgrounders. It also shows that the system isn't perfect since these medals should have been removed authomatically at the moment when the game was removed.
(Speaking of Nijsse, seeing your last week above 10K gain clearly shows that you actually are going to take that No. 1 spot from him by force anyway? ;-) )
Don't get me wrong. I wrote exactly the same sentence already for multiple occasions and reported bugs directly to the moderators how they asked me to do. But in general, when there are people (and when they are only a handful of it) can unlock a medal that doesn't work for most of the other people nothing will be done about it and sometimes they don't want to do something about it for other good reasons (to identify cheaters).
I heard about it. I sometimes see almost-impossible-to-obtain medals added to some games. For example, i recently met a medal that requires to obtain a 1 000 000 cash. Ok, no problem, but! After beating all the levels you get only about 7 000, after making one upgrade you can rise it to 10 000. So I would have to repeat the entire game over 100 times...
The only thing you always hear is - people can unlock it, the problem is on your side (even when there are as the above mentioned Urban Wars up to 70% people not unlocking it - makes sense!11).
Completely logical.
But no one asked for the necessary information I could have easily given them. And a year ago after playing already for two years on Newgrounds I gave a big fuck about solving it and also didn't care. I wish you good luck and hope that the opinion of the relevant authorities on the page changed and they will help you or that you can find the solution yourself, maybe with a different version or other ideas.
