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Newgrounds Medals - Games and Tips

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Response to Newgrounds Medals - Games and Tips 2013-03-13 14:44:35


At 3/13/13 01:53 PM, Idiot-Finder wrote:
At 3/13/13 11:21 AM, ixfd64 wrote: New game:
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/612958
Is the medals broken or what? I won the 4th level race and didn't receive a medal.

I didn't get the one for the 12th race.
I'm not getting any points either?

Response to Newgrounds Medals - Games and Tips 2013-03-13 15:06:17


Me neither. Not since last night when the last medal of Milford the Ghosts didnt unlock.


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Response to Newgrounds Medals - Games and Tips 2013-03-13 15:09:00


At 3/13/13 02:19 PM, PsychoGoldfish wrote: Stuff

Thanks for the thorough commentary! When you mention broken browser updates, do you mean the flash files, flash itself, something else? Is it an issue cured by clearing the cache? Btw, when medals don't immediately appear as unlocked, is this due to high server load? Is it also possible for the server to receive too many requests at the same time and not process all of them? Since there are occasionally 504 Bad Gateway errors on the site I'm wondering if something similar could happen with requests sent through flash, without error messages being displayed?

Also, it looks like the list of games with medals is updated automatically (?), but still many of the submissions listed no longer exist, or no longer have medals. How does that work? Just on this page there are 6 or 7 HTD submissions that have been 'removed by the moderator team'. Hope you don't mind answering all these questions :)

At 3/13/13 01:53 PM, Idiot-Finder wrote: Is the medals broken or what? I won the 4th level race and didn't receive a medal.

I won trophies for races 4 and 8 in the game, but unlocked the medals for races 4 and 12, so... that's strange. Doesn't seem to be working like it should. :/


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Response to Newgrounds Medals - Games and Tips 2013-03-13 15:16:00


At 3/13/13 03:09 PM, Cyberdevil wrote:
At 3/13/13 02:19 PM, PsychoGoldfish wrote: Stuff
Thanks for the thorough commentary! When you mention broken browser updates, do you mean the flash files, flash itself, something else? Is it an issue cured by clearing the cache? Btw, when medals don't immediately appear as unlocked, is this due to high server load? Is it also possible for the server to receive too many requests at the same time and not process all of them? Since there are occasionally 504 Bad Gateway errors on the site I'm wondering if something similar could happen with requests sent through flash, without error messages being displayed?

Chrome in particular does a lot of self updates. There have been a LOT of updates that just break the flash plugin's ability to do a lot of things. We've seen things like our audio player just stop working, api connections failing, etc etc. Usually with a few days Google has a fix released.

In regards to the 504 type errors, what I look for is that a game at least TRIES contacting the server. If there's ever a case the api server times out, it still shows an attempted connection to ngads.com in Fiddler. In those cases I assume the medals is okay.


Also, it looks like the list of games with medals is updated automatically (?), but still many of the submissions listed no longer exist, or no longer have medals. How does that work? Just on this page there are 6 or 7 HTD submissions that have been 'removed by the moderator team'. Hope you don't mind answering all these questions :)

The gameswithmedals page still needs some love. It hasn't been updated since the redesign launched, and since then we added the ability for moderators and authors to un-publish stuff. Since this page is older, it just ignores that unpublished status. What it DOES look for are medals that have not been removed my moderators, and that the medals have been unlocked at least once.

Response to Newgrounds Medals - Games and Tips 2013-03-13 15:51:15


At 3/13/13 03:16 PM, PsychoGoldfish wrote: Most stuff

That clarifies it, thanks.

What it DOES look for are medals that have not been removed my moderators, and that the medals have been unlocked at least once.

And yet the games mentioned show a 'ERROR - This project has been removed by the Newgrounds moderation team.' message. Shouldn't they be showing a 'The creator/creators have devided to remove this project. It may return later on.' message instead?


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Response to Newgrounds Medals - Games and Tips 2013-03-13 17:18:46



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Response to Newgrounds Medals - Games and Tips 2013-03-13 18:09:45


Just beat this game on normal difficulty. Honestly, I wouldn't recommend this game for medal rushing, but it's still a really good game xD

And then there's the issue about a few medals. Hitting level 40? Grindy as hell, but possible I guess (it is also listed at 0 medal point). Hitting for 3 million damage in a single attack? What the hell!? Seems like a new game+ feature to me. I tested some absurd damage numbers against a gold dragon, which was weakened (-50% darkness resist) and debuffed -50% mdef. Using Natalie equipped with the darkness-boosting Hela's Staff and buffed to +70% matk, I tried out two skills: Cosmic Monolith summon (450 magic power, 100% dark damage), and Sacrifice (420 magic power, 30% dark damage). Using Cosmic Monolith, I dealt just under 600k damage, non-critical. Using Sacrifice, I dealt 420k damage, non-critical. I'm under the impression that the summon power is only based on level (33 at the time), but the results speak for themselves. Theoretically, the damage can be further increased by a critical hit and freezing the target (but since this is the gold dragon, this will be VERY difficult to do), but even then it might not pass 2 million damage. But at the end of the day, I suppose that just grinding for levels (exponential stat increase) and buying stat boosters will eventually get you to 3 million damage.

Some notes and tips:
-- Hidden treasures occasionally twinkle, giving away their location. Of course, if you use the mouse to play, you can just check every tile to see if it has something.
-- If you have talked to an NPC previously, and then their dialogue later changes (typically because you completed a quest), an exclamation mark will appear above their head briefly. Sometimes you can get hidden dialogue or treasure. For example, if you defeat the Praetorian, talking to the robot in the cooling room will give you some Plasma Orbs.
-- Chilli Sauce cannot be bought, and can only be found as treasure/drops. Drop rates are typically very low.
-- Just like the previous game EBF3, Matt sucks at clearing waves of enemies. He is still the best boss DPSer however, capable of hitting for over 60k just on counterattacks alone.
-- Defeating the glitch in the industrial area gives you access to the best summon in the game, both in raw power, and in element damage. Its SP cost (150) is prohibitively high however.
-- If a character is stunned/berserked/slimed/dead or whatever, and hasn't taken his turn yet, you can still swap him out with your backup.
-- Finishing a battle with a dead character means he will receive no exp... and probably AP? I dunno. Point being, don't let them finish dead.
-- The game does a decent job of handing you rare crafting materials so you can upgrade your gear. However, if you're looking to upgrade everything fully, be prepared to grind for money to buy all the other stuff (costs 500 - 6000 each, in massive quantities).
-- I recommend giving the dedicated healer all the status immunities (Syphon, Dispel, Stun), and plenty of evasion (so you can dodge other bad status-inducing attacks) so that they are ready and able whenever you find yourself in a nasty situation. Also, don't have them in the first party slot, or else you won't get a chance to cure Berserk before wasting their turn. For Natalie, the Pope armor and Dreamcatcher staff covers most of your bases, and they have excellent resists against Godcat herself.

At 3/13/13 02:19 PM, PsychoGoldfish wrote: Uasually what I do is look at our database and compare the last unlock date with the last time the core game file was updated. If medals have been unlocked since the last update, then I open up Fiddler and give the game a play. The first thing I check via fiddler is whether it's calling our ngads.com domain to pull the medal details from our servers. Then I play for a while and see what happens when I SHOULD get a medal. If it doesn't send a call to the ngads.com domain, its pretty obvious that the game itself is broken.

On rare occasions, the medal CAN be obtained under the specified conditions, but there are extra conditions that have to be met that aren't obvious, to the point where one can claim that the medal is broken. The best examples of this were the "get/do X amount of Y" in Dillo Hills by fexLabs. I made a post detailing this a while back, but I'm too lazy to dig it up atm.


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Response to Newgrounds Medals - Games and Tips 2013-03-13 18:12:36


Matt has given some insight on how to hit 3,000,000 damage: http://kupo707.deviantart.com/journal/3mil-Damage-357600218


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Response to Newgrounds Medals - Games and Tips 2013-03-13 20:02:51


At 3/13/13 06:12 PM, ixfd64 wrote: Matt has given some insight on how to hit 3,000,000 damage: http://kupo707.deviantart.com/journal/3mil-Damage-357600218

Derp, forgot about Black Hole >.< Regardless, it's good to know that it can be done well before level 40. I personally think it will be easier to do the feat on a gold dragon rather than a chimera bear, since despite the added frustrations (bless, 70% freeze resistance), it's more vulnerable to darkness.

I got just under 1.2 million damage with level 33 characters on a frozen gold dragon. But I haven't spammed cakes on Natalie yet, so....


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Response to Newgrounds Medals - Games and Tips 2013-03-13 22:56:22


At 3/13/13 06:12 PM, ixfd64 wrote: Matt has given some insight on how to hit 3,000,000 damage: http://kupo707.deviantart.com/journal/3mil-Damage-357600218

Shit.
I always spread all the stat changing stuff (like those lollipops, cake, and shit like that) evenly across everyone...should probably start giving JUST Natalie the cake then I suppose.


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Response to Newgrounds Medals - Games and Tips 2013-03-14 01:05:13


Congrats you new mods.
OMFG look at your shiny new auras!

Response to Newgrounds Medals - Games and Tips 2013-03-14 04:24:53


At 3/13/13 06:09 PM, Fooliolo wrote: -- Hidden treasures occasionally twinkle, giving away their location. Of course, if you use the mouse to play, you can just check every tile to see if it has something.

That wasn't too hard to do with the keyboard either, I guess it's a habit. :) Thanks for the info btw, I was wondering how getting the 3 million damage would even be remotely possible. Still haven't reached the 300k badge yet. As for leveling up, do you have any tips on how to speed up the process? It seems like reaching lv40 is going to take an insanely long time.

At 3/14/13 01:05 AM, BrokenDeck wrote: Congrats you new mods.
OMFG look at your shiny new auras!

???


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Response to Newgrounds Medals - Games and Tips 2013-03-14 05:38:44


At 3/14/13 04:24 AM, Cyberdevil wrote:
At 3/14/13 01:05 AM, BrokenDeck wrote: Congrats you new mods.
OMFG look at your shiny new auras!
???

Congrats to Nijsse, Shantom, and EventHorizon, and EdyKel.

May your auras shine like streams of bats piss.

Response to Newgrounds Medals - Games and Tips 2013-03-14 05:58:07


At 3/14/13 05:38 AM, BrokenDeck wrote:
At 3/14/13 04:24 AM, Cyberdevil wrote:
At 3/14/13 01:05 AM, BrokenDeck wrote: Congrats you new mods.
???
Congrats to Nijsse, Shantom, and EventHorizon, and EdyKel.

May your auras shine like streams of bats piss.

Wow, that's awesome. Medal mods? What can you do?

I'm so jealous right now.

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Response to Newgrounds Medals - Games and Tips 2013-03-14 06:16:58


At 3/14/13 05:38 AM, BrokenDeck wrote: Congrats to Nijsse, Shantom, and EventHorizon, and EdyKel.

Ah, they're mods! Congrats on the upgrade! :)

At 3/14/13 05:58 AM, Knuckstrike wrote: Wow, that's awesome. Medal mods? What can you do?

Also curious. Does this mean the gameswithmedals page will start getting organized?


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Response to Newgrounds Medals - Games and Tips 2013-03-14 07:43:05


At 3/14/13 05:58 AM, Knuckstrike wrote: Wow, that's awesome. Medal mods? What can you do?

Currently we have the power to remove medals from any game, we are currently updating the "Games with Medals"page.


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Response to Newgrounds Medals - Games and Tips 2013-03-14 08:41:03


At 3/14/13 05:38 AM, BrokenDeck wrote: Congrats to Nijsse, Shantom, and EventHorizon, and EdyKel.

May your auras shine like streams of bats piss.

lol Thank you :D

At 3/14/13 06:16 AM, Cyberdevil wrote:
At 3/14/13 05:58 AM, Knuckstrike wrote: Wow, that's awesome. Medal mods? What can you do?
Also curious. Does this mean the gameswithmedals page will start getting organized?

I really hope so. EdyKel mentioned that right away.
We can remove medals atm (of course we will remove the broken ones). We will be able to do something about the hackers soon.
I hope it goes well ^^

Response to Newgrounds Medals - Games and Tips 2013-03-14 10:14:18


At 3/14/13 01:05 AM, BrokenDeck wrote: Congrats you new mods.
OMFG look at your shiny new auras!

Thats awesome!


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Response to Newgrounds Medals - Games and Tips 2013-03-14 10:48:36


Is here someone, who have all medals in "A Rabbit Fable" ?
who give me little help for obtaining this medals?
i played this game few time, but still dont know, if this medals works or what i am going bad

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Response to Newgrounds Medals - Games and Tips 2013-03-14 11:12:06


I'd also like some help with the "A Rabbit Fable" medals (can't believe how hard they are to find). I'm missing "Empathy", "Evil Laugh", "Hidden Gregorio" and "Ghost Of The Corner".

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Response to Newgrounds Medals - Games and Tips 2013-03-14 12:06:20


New game! (I do not know if the medal works)


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Response to Newgrounds Medals - Games and Tips 2013-03-14 12:09:17


At 3/14/13 12:05 PM, Cyberdevil wrote: New game :)
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/613037

Dho!, for a few seconds...


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Response to Newgrounds Medals - Games and Tips 2013-03-14 13:19:54


So I finally got the games with medals page updated... unpublished shit should no longer be included.

Response to Newgrounds Medals - Games and Tips 2013-03-14 16:07:50


Hi guys, we are checking some games with medals, you may lose some points, sorry for this!


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Response to Newgrounds Medals - Games and Tips 2013-03-14 17:01:27


At 3/14/13 04:07 PM, EventHorizon wrote: Hi guys, we are checking some games with medals, you may lose some points, sorry for this!

As long as the reductions affect you guys as well, no worries. :) Btw, should broken medals be reported to you mods or to the submission authors in first hand, so they'll get a chance to fix them? Anything other than broken models you'll be checking for?


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Response to Newgrounds Medals - Games and Tips 2013-03-14 17:21:36


At 3/14/13 05:01 PM, Cyberdevil wrote: As long as the reductions affect you guys as well, no worries. :) Btw, should broken medals be reported to you mods or to the submission authors in first hand, so they'll get a chance to fix them? Anything other than broken models you'll be checking for?

If you find any broken medal send a PM to us, we'll see if fix or remove the medal ;)


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Response to Newgrounds Medals - Games and Tips 2013-03-14 17:26:45


At 3/14/13 05:38 AM, BrokenDeck wrote: May your auras shine like streams of bats piss.

A hazing ritual for green-horn mods eh? Sounds rough.

What?

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