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Response to Newgrounds Medals - Games and Tips 2011-04-10 06:21:16


At 4/9/11 10:35 PM, Fooliolo wrote: Just an observation about the 1, 3, and 5 star combo medals in Arm of Revenge...

I believe it actually calls for you performing a total of X combos, not get a X-hit combo or w/e. Not sure if anyone else has pointed this out.

Yes I have, and no it doesn't make any difference. Those medals don't work (the 3/5 star combo's), along with some other medals in that game.

On a sidenote, you earned the Cover Band (Punk-o-matic 2) medal a few days ago. Do you have any tips on how you did it? I remember it being the first medal I gave up on, and you did it with ease. You're obviously better at the game, but I might go back and give it another shot if you have some good pointers.

Response to Newgrounds Medals - Games and Tips 2011-04-10 12:50:42


At 4/10/11 06:21 AM, Nijsse wrote: On a sidenote, you earned the Cover Band (Punk-o-matic 2) medal a few days ago. Do you have any tips on how you did it? I remember it being the first medal I gave up on, and you did it with ease. You're obviously better at the game, but I might go back and give it another shot if you have some good pointers.

Well, I grew up playing the piano and violin, then around my maturing age, I started playing a lot of Guitar Hero and Rock Band. I don't play any more musical stuff these days, but the lessons I've learned still stuck with me.

Consider this part the disclaimer. Unfortunately, a large part of doing well with music is rote practice and memorization. It takes me a couple weeks to get good at a song, and at least 4+ months to play a concerto or some other really hard piece of music flawlessly for a competition. I'm nowhere near as good as the masters of the world, but I could BS my way through children's songs fairly easily now, and those are on the caliber of normal mode for POM2 and 4-7 bars for DJManiax. It took me 2 tries max for the stadium and park cover songs.

Having said all that, there are a few techniques that you can use.

--Timing and metric! The majority of music follows a kind of beat, whether it is 4:4, 2:4, 3:8, etc. POM2 uses 4:4 pretty much all the time, so you can expect groups of notes to come at you in 2s, 4s, 8s, or possibly even 12s (not sure on the last one, I don't recall). With exception to a few special passages, there's always a rhythm you can use to help you get through. If it helps you, you can accentuate key notes (by bashing the keyboard or something) to help you get your sense of timing.

--When practicing a song, it helps if you start off slow and easy. The cover songs for the stadium and park don't let you do this. Bastards! So instead, you can opt to not play some of the notes, while you try to solidify your mastery on an easier part of a passage. Once you've got that down, you can try to add in more parts, until you can successfully play a streak through those passages.

--If you just get too tired near the end or something (the 2nd park cover is over 5 minutes long), you could try half-assing it for most of the song, but then bust your balls out for the end. I think your rating depends largely on where you are on the meter when the song ends. I've had 95% awful concerts (bottom two red zones), and 84% awesome concerts (green zone). I've never tried this technique though.

Best of luck!


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Response to Newgrounds Medals - Games and Tips 2011-04-10 13:16:13



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Response to Newgrounds Medals - Games and Tips 2011-04-10 13:22:59


At 4/10/11 01:16 PM, ugolegend94 wrote: 0 points
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/56 7084

Anyone figured out the Head Shoulders Knees and Toes medal?


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Response to Newgrounds Medals - Games and Tips 2011-04-10 13:26:43


At 4/10/11 01:22 PM, DiMono wrote:
At 4/10/11 01:16 PM, ugolegend94 wrote: 0 points
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/56 7084
Anyone figured out the Head Shoulders Knees and Toes medal?

Never mind, I figured it out: when collecting things in the shower, click them in the right order.


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Response to Newgrounds Medals - Games and Tips 2011-04-10 13:48:59


Thanks for the tips! Unfortunately I left the pc with the .sol file of the game with my former roommate, so I can't try it right away. The first 20 songs are obviously child's play, it's all about the last 10 covers. I like your backstory in music, I never really took that route. For me, it was always about creating my own stuff. It's obviously the best learning experience if you try to play songs from other people, but I never was never into that. I played a bit of GH, and am decent at it, but it was more about hanging around with friends, drink some beer and ninja myself through expert mode with the worst possible scores. =)

Long story short. You're way better than me at the game, but I'm going to give it another try. Thanks. :P

Response to Newgrounds Medals - Games and Tips 2011-04-10 13:50:08


That was obviously a response to Fooliolo's post. Damn you coffee breaks! :P

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Response to Newgrounds Medals - Games and Tips 2011-04-10 14:09:04


At 4/10/11 01:50 PM, Nijsse wrote: That was obviously a response to Fooliolo's post. Damn you coffee breaks! :P

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It's exactly as hard as you expect it to be.


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Response to Newgrounds Medals - Games and Tips 2011-04-10 14:16:08


At 4/10/11 02:09 PM, DiMono wrote:
At 4/10/11 01:50 PM, Nijsse wrote: That was obviously a response to Fooliolo's post. Damn you coffee breaks! :P

Time for Pyroscape 3!
It's exactly as hard as you expect it to be.

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Response to Newgrounds Medals - Games and Tips 2011-04-10 22:47:06


So I've been playing Bieber Metamorph and I keep having problems. 3 times during each play through 4 so far the whole game freeze's but my computer does not freeze just the game and a new bug I found today which is the reason I will never play it again until it gets fixed on day 38 I turned in the last 3 girls to level down to 17 and win the quick screwer medal but the game goes crazy and instead of seeing the end of the game it automatically takes me all the way back to the first level and all my progress is gone. I just wanted to know if anyone was having one or both of these problems.

Response to Newgrounds Medals - Games and Tips 2011-04-10 22:57:41


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Response to Newgrounds Medals - Games and Tips 2011-04-10 23:02:51


At 4/10/11 10:57 PM, cmw986 wrote: Desert Moon new medals to bad I hate that game with a passion it was put on kong awhile back

You're quite late.

I think the game is okay, but day 3 is a little too RNG-based to be successful in, even if you opt to go the support route. Day 3 is also the most difficult one.


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Response to Newgrounds Medals - Games and Tips 2011-04-10 23:28:07


At 4/10/11 10:47 PM, cmw986 wrote: So I've been playing Bieber Metamorph and I keep having problems. 3 times during each play through 4 so far the whole game freeze's but my computer does not freeze just the game and a new bug I found today which is the reason I will never play it again until it gets fixed on day 38 I turned in the last 3 girls to level down to 17 and win the quick screwer medal but the game goes crazy and instead of seeing the end of the game it automatically takes me all the way back to the first level and all my progress is gone. I just wanted to know if anyone was having one or both of these problems.

Only problem I had was that on one level, I think I threw like 3 bombs at once, and my character actually disappeared. I just had to walk around and die and start again. Still finished on level 39 though. Only medal that I haven't got was the max out heath medal.


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Response to Newgrounds Medals - Games and Tips 2011-04-10 23:43:33


At 4/10/11 11:28 PM, waynerz99 wrote: Only problem I had was that on one level, I think I threw like 3 bombs at once, and my character actually disappeared. I just had to walk around and die and start again. Still finished on level 39 though. Only medal that I haven't got was the max out heath medal.

Those stats take forever to max out. Health goes to 6, and speed goes to 8 I think, and the last ones each cost well over $10,000. No idea if there's an upper limit on how many girls you can take to your bus at once.

Also, who exactly is paying for him to screw those underage girls? I mean, how does it earn him money? Something's not right here.


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Response to Newgrounds Medals - Games and Tips 2011-04-11 00:10:59


At 4/10/11 11:43 PM, DiMono wrote:
At 4/10/11 11:28 PM, waynerz99 wrote: Only problem I had was that on one level, I think I threw like 3 bombs at once, and my character actually disappeared. I just had to walk around and die and start again. Still finished on level 39 though. Only medal that I haven't got was the max out heath medal.
Those stats take forever to max out. Health goes to 6, and speed goes to 8 I think, and the last ones each cost well over $10,000. No idea if there's an upper limit on how many girls you can take to your bus at once.

Also, who exactly is paying for him to screw those underage girls? I mean, how does it earn him money? Something's not right here.

You'd mind as well ask how fking girls makes him younger. I mean, really now? Amusing concept, totally wrong compared to reality though.

You can take a total of 16 girls to your van. The final upgrade for that costs $4200. Final speed and health upgrades cost $15,000 iirc.


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Response to Newgrounds Medals - Games and Tips 2011-04-11 03:21:28


Finally got the stupid 333 medal from Time Cufk, so now I'm moving on to EON.

What's the proper procedure to getting all the "under par" medals? The game is being incredibly picky on how to meet the criteria unfortunately. WonderTheHedgeHog has them all, so I'm thinking there is a way.


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Response to Newgrounds Medals - Games and Tips 2011-04-11 03:55:57


At 4/11/11 03:21 AM, Fooliolo wrote: Finally got the stupid 333 medal from Time Cufk, so now I'm moving on to EON.

What's the proper procedure to getting all the "under par" medals? The game is being incredibly picky on how to meet the criteria unfortunately. WonderTheHedgeHog has them all, so I'm thinking there is a way.

Under par literally means UNDER par. For many levels that means deleting the source just before the level ends. IMO one of the most technically challenging medal game ever.

Response to Newgrounds Medals - Games and Tips 2011-04-11 16:21:42


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Has there ever been a guide made for this game?

I have completed all the challenges except for level 33. I could use some help.


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Response to Newgrounds Medals - Games and Tips 2011-04-11 17:00:21


At 4/11/11 04:21 PM, DoctorStrongbad wrote: Roadkill Revenge

Has there ever been a guide made for this game?

I have completed all the challenges except for level 33. I could use some help.

http://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic/1035 978/694

Two thirds down the page.


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Response to Newgrounds Medals - Games and Tips 2011-04-11 20:08:41


At 4/11/11 03:55 AM, queenofbabes wrote:
At 4/11/11 03:21 AM, Fooliolo wrote: Finally got the stupid 333 medal from Time Cufk, so now I'm moving on to EON.

What's the proper procedure to getting all the "under par" medals? The game is being incredibly picky on how to meet the criteria unfortunately. WonderTheHedgeHog has them all, so I'm thinking there is a way.
Under par literally means UNDER par. For many levels that means deleting the source just before the level ends. IMO one of the most technically challenging medal game ever.

I did some screwing around and some digging. Apparently EON's .sol file does not keep track of how many levels you did meeting par requirements, so I hypothesized that you had to do it all in one go without closing the game.

Though I'm still not entirely sure of what is needed to satisfy medal requirements, needing to be under par instead of under/equal par is not true. I guess I'll keep at it and see if I can't net myself the 15 par and 100% par medals.


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Response to Newgrounds Medals - Games and Tips 2011-04-11 20:44:20


At 4/11/11 08:08 PM, Fooliolo wrote:
I did some screwing around and some digging. Apparently EON's .sol file does not keep track of how many levels you did meeting par requirements, so I hypothesized that you had to do it all in one go without closing the game.

Though I'm still not entirely sure of what is needed to satisfy medal requirements, needing to be under par instead of under/equal par is not true. I guess I'll keep at it and see if I can't net myself the 15 par and 100% par medals.

Eh, I wonder what sort of 'screwing around and some digging' you have been doing. But I had done all the levels equal par, wondered why I didn't get the medal, then converted each and every one to UNDER par and got the medal. That was how I had to do it then.

Response to Newgrounds Medals - Games and Tips 2011-04-11 21:14:12


Screwing around = playing the game.

Digging = google-fu, opening the .sol in Notepad.

The variables from the .sol aren't exactly encrypted or anything. What it's used for and what it actually is will take guesswork without the aid of some more sophisticated software, but generally variables have the duties of what their name suggests. Also, do note that if you attempt to save a non-text file using Notepad, you'll most likely corrupt it; Notepad converts all null bytes into spaces (32 or 0x20 iirc), to put forth one example.


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Response to Newgrounds Medals - Games and Tips 2011-04-11 22:13:40


At 4/11/11 09:14 PM, Fooliolo wrote: Screwing around = playing the game.

Digging = google-fu, opening the .sol in Notepad.

The variables from the .sol aren't exactly encrypted or anything. What it's used for and what it actually is will take guesswork without the aid of some more sophisticated software, but generally variables have the duties of what their name suggests. Also, do note that if you attempt to save a non-text file using Notepad, you'll most likely corrupt it; Notepad converts all null bytes into spaces (32 or 0x20 iirc), to put forth one example.

Ha ha, interesting. I see how you reached your conclusion. If you open it up in notepad, you see mostly gibberish and some objects at the root level. I'm guessing that many more variables are saved as objects within the 'level' objects, which you obviously cannot see with notepad.

And yeah, hacking .sol using notepad wouldn't work. Just in case some people are getting any ideas...

Response to Newgrounds Medals - Games and Tips 2011-04-12 01:50:53


Still poking around in the dark about EON's under par medals...

I hopped onto my test account TheGreatPrime1, and I opened up another tab viewing its account page, so I don't interrupt my play session. Since the .sol file doesn't change, I begin the game with all levels unlocked. Being the meticulous butt I am, I decided to go to the first level and fail the par requirements intentionally, complete it, then refresh the account page. To my surprise, the Junior medal appeared! So I decided to go through the next 4 levels and complete them in one try, whether or not I met the par requirements. The 5 under par medal popped up.

Here's what I think is happening: the "levels completed under par" variable only updates everytime you complete a level. If your best meets par requirements, it will add 1 to the variable. This means you cannot get the par medals without having played the levels under par, then complete them again.

Also, as someone else way back in the day noted, they have to be the first X levels. You can't just pick a random level, unless you're going straight for the 100% under par medal.

.

Just tested my hypothesis for the 15 under par medal. Seems to be working so far.


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Response to Newgrounds Medals - Games and Tips 2011-04-12 07:57:42


At 4/10/11 01:16 PM, ugolegend94 wrote: 0 points
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/56 7084

They're now worth points. Although they don't appear at the page yet.

100 points for head, shoulders knees and toes????


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Response to Newgrounds Medals - Games and Tips 2011-04-12 12:48:36


At 4/12/11 07:57 AM, Knuckstrike wrote:
At 4/10/11 01:16 PM, ugolegend94 wrote: 0 points
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/56 7084
They're now worth points. Although they don't appear at the page yet.

100 points for head, shoulders knees and toes????

Turns out it's a secret medal, so without any clues I can see it being tricky to figure out. Any idea what the 50pt secret medal right before it is? Anyone got it?


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Response to Newgrounds Medals - Games and Tips 2011-04-12 12:49:16



Turns out it's a secret medal, so without any clues I can see it being tricky to figure out. Any idea what the 50pt secret medal right before it is? Anyone got it?

Has anybody tried jumping over the last missile yet?


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Response to Newgrounds Medals - Games and Tips 2011-04-12 13:17:27


At 4/12/11 12:49 PM, Knuckstrike wrote:

Turns out it's a secret medal, so without any clues I can see it being tricky to figure out. Any idea what the 50pt secret medal right before it is? Anyone got it?
Has anybody tried jumping over the last missile yet?

... Half an hour later I've answered my own question... It doesn't give you a medal. Neither the two next missiles you jump over. It just gives you a missile you can't dodge...


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Response to Newgrounds Medals - Games and Tips 2011-04-12 13:35:19


At 4/12/11 01:17 PM, Knuckstrike wrote:
At 4/12/11 12:49 PM, Knuckstrike wrote: Has anybody tried jumping over the last missile yet?
... Half an hour later I've answered my own question... It doesn't give you a medal. Neither the two next missiles you jump over. It just gives you a missile you can't dodge...

Well I could have told you that, but I wasn't here.


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