At 4/25/10 05:43 AM, Freak100 wrote:

At 4/25/10 03:17 AM, greeneggs4spam wrote:

yeah I got the apprentice medal after going a year with no penalties (as opposed to when I actually killed the apprentice), and I didn't get the no penalties medal.

Maybe they have the same glitch from medieval rampage when frozen and broken bow were gained the same

The author mixed these 2 medals up. Kill the apprentice and get the perfect career medal, and vice versa.

At 4/26/10 12:46 AM, queenofbabes wrote:

At 4/25/10 05:43 AM, Freak100 wrote:

At 4/25/10 03:17 AM, greeneggs4spam wrote:

yeah I got the apprentice medal after going a year with no penalties (as opposed to when I actually killed the apprentice), and I didn't get the no penalties medal.

Maybe they have the same glitch from medieval rampage when frozen and broken bow were gained the same

The author mixed these 2 medals up. Kill the apprentice and get the perfect career medal, and vice versa.

Well... If that were true, I would have gotten at least one meddle for killing the apprentice instead of nothing.

Too bad then, looks like it bugged for you...

I'm not sure how exp splitting works, but I'm certain dead people receive LESS exp, so try to keep them alive. Besides, you should never bring level 30 guys around: waste of exp. The max you should ever level them is about level 24, unless you're leveling them to the max in order to graduate them at the end of the month for the 50% bonus. 4 x level 24 chars can win you tournaments easy.

I'm not sure how points are awarded for errand missions, but in general I see myself getting less for errands of the same rating compared to hunts, even if I try to meet the errand criteria e.g. sending my best sorceress when they ask for them, and sending my best gunslingers when they wanted chars with high dex. So try to go for hunts whenever possible.

Agree that 4 star hunts > 5 star hunts due to larger number of enemies. The ideal ones are wolves and barbarians since they're not ranged, which allows you to abuse the pathing AI to the max. Always have at least one ranged char, once you enter the hunt run to a safe spot beside any bit of water one "square" across. Disable assistance (press W), send one guy to lure enemies to the spot across the water from the rest of your party. Quickly select another member of the party and press shift to teleport him/her over. Now the enemies will stupidly be stuck across the river, giving the ranged guy free shots. Heck, using this tactic you can beat the 4-star wolf hunt with 4 level 1 guys, easy peasy. However, the map is randomly generated so sometimes you will start off being surrounded by 20 wolves with no suitable spot of water nearby to abuse, and you will thus lose if you only bring low level guys, but this does not occur often.

For tournaments, disable assistance IMMEDIATELY once you start, and manually select each guy to focus on the ranged enemies to take them out first since they have less HP. They aren't actually very hard.

At 4/26/10 01:12 AM, queenofbabes wrote: I'm not sure how exp splitting works, but I'm certain dead people receive LESS exp, so try to keep them alive.

I experimented with that to, and got mixed results. One of my level 1 charcter died, the other two survived, yet one was able to gain two levels more than the other two. Perhaps it has something to do with the class they will be?

Besides, you should never bring level 30 guys around: waste of exp.

Higher level characters earn more LP in hunts, and probably errands to. I brought 4 level characters in a 4 star hunt against the wolves and killed a total of 30 for 12240 LP, with 1469 shared. On another try, and on the same mission with the same number of kills, I brought 1 level 30 character, and 3 low level charcters, and received 6120 LP, with 734 shared.

The only times I go on errands is if they are the only option. Good for making money, but give little out for LP.

At 4/26/10 02:26 AM, EdyKel wrote: Higher level characters earn more LP in hunts, and probably errands to. I brought 4 level characters in a 4 star hunt against the wolves and killed a total of 30 for 12240 LP, with 1469 shared. On another try, and on the same mission with the same number of kills, I brought 1 level 30 character, and 3 low level charcters, and received 6120 LP, with 734 shared.

Meh, higher levels earn more LP by killing the same things? The game doesn't make sense...

I'm going to wait until the game is fixed before I do anything with it. It sounds like there are problems.

The medals in VA are "fixed". They don't worth 0 anymore but still i can see them only on my profile and they don't add up to my medal score

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now it's all been resolved, the medals are not worth more than 0 points!

At 4/26/10 12:58 AM, EdyKel wrote:

At 4/26/10 12:46 AM, queenofbabes wrote: The author mixed these 2 medals up. Kill the apprentice and get the perfect career medal, and vice versa.

Well... If that were true, I would have gotten at least one meddle for killing the apprentice instead of nothing.

What difficulty did you kill the Apprentice in? You need to do it in Hard to get anything for it.

At 4/26/10 11:48 AM, chris-marks wrote:

At 4/26/10 12:58 AM, EdyKel wrote:

At 4/26/10 12:46 AM, queenofbabes wrote: The author mixed these 2 medals up. Kill the apprentice and get the perfect career medal, and vice versa.

Well... If that were true, I would have gotten at least one meddle for killing the apprentice instead of nothing.

What difficulty did you kill the Apprentice in? You need to do it in Hard to get anything for it.

queenofbabes was right on that, actually. I just got the apprentice medal for getting a full year without a penalty.

Looks like the author just updated the game again. Says he fixed the medal bugs (hopefully). unfortunately, I have a feeling I'll have to start the game over again to just get the no penalty medal (again)... What a bother....

In entirely unrelated news, I just dusted M-Bot off to get the City Sweeper medal, and completely rewrote the guide with better, more accurate information, and to make it easier to read. So there ya go. Can't get DaLongestMile until I get home though, because my work computer just doesn't have enough juice to run the game without lagging.

At 4/26/10 01:30 PM, chris-marks wrote: In entirely unrelated news, I just dusted M-Bot off to get the City Sweeper medal, and completely rewrote the guide with better, more accurate information, and to make it easier to read. So there ya go. Can't get DaLongestMile until I get home though, because my work computer just doesn't have enough juice to run the game without lagging.

Chris, I sent you a PM a week or so ago regarding this guide. Queen had a comment for your guide regarding not using K-9 for "DaLongestMile" and I can confirm that if you use K-9, you don't stand a chance.

At 4/26/10 02:11 PM, nosesocks wrote:

At 4/26/10 01:30 PM, chris-marks wrote: In entirely unrelated news, I just dusted M-Bot off to get the City Sweeper medal, and completely rewrote the guide with better, more accurate information, and to make it easier to read. So there ya go. Can't get DaLongestMile until I get home though, because my work computer just doesn't have enough juice to run the game without lagging.

Chris, I sent you a PM a week or so ago regarding this guide. Queen had a comment for your guide regarding not using K-9 for "DaLongestMile" and I can confirm that if you use K-9, you don't stand a chance.

You sure did! And the updated guide reflects it. I've found that I can get back to the triple laser and full fuel after using K9 once though, so I left that in, but I still advised against it.

Confirmed that Valthirian Arc is working now, and the perfect career medal is awarded properly.

In more unfortunate news, I've also confirmed that if you get medals when they're worth zero points, your medal score isn't updated when they fix the point values for those medals. So I would recommend not getting medals when they're worth zero points if at all possible, since then you lose the chance to ever attain them for points. Nglogs does seem to correctly add up your points and adjust your medal score when medals are fixed.

Somebody should probably also report this bug to the proper medal authorities as well.

At 4/26/10 04:08 PM, greeneggs4spam wrote: Confirmed that Valthirian Arc is working now, and the perfect career medal is awarded properly.

In more unfortunate news, I've also confirmed that if you get medals when they're worth zero points, your medal score isn't updated when they fix the point values for those medals. So I would recommend not getting medals when they're worth zero points if at all possible, since then you lose the chance to ever attain them for points. Nglogs does seem to correctly add up your points and adjust your medal score when medals are fixed.

SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT!
Are you telling me that I can't possibly get my points back?
No, this is not acceptable.If nothing happens, I'm going to make a request thread or something...
An update points button, or a resend button in the games themselves...you can't just lose your medals forever just because the author made a mistake...

At 4/26/10 04:08 PM, greeneggs4spam wrote: In more unfortunate news, I've also confirmed that if you get medals when they're worth zero points, your medal score isn't updated when they fix the point values for those medals. So I would recommend not getting medals when they're worth zero points if at all possible, since then you lose the chance to ever attain them for points. Nglogs does seem to correctly add up your points and adjust your medal score when medals are fixed.

sigh. I thought it would all be taken care of when fixed....Should have waited before playing it.

At 4/26/10 04:08 PM, greeneggs4spam wrote: Confirmed that Valthirian Arc is working now, and the perfect career medal is awarded properly.

In more unfortunate news, I've also confirmed that if you get medals when they're worth zero points, your medal score isn't updated when they fix the point values for those medals. So I would recommend not getting medals when they're worth zero points if at all possible, since then you lose the chance to ever attain them for points. Nglogs does seem to correctly add up your points and adjust your medal score when medals are fixed.

Somebody should probably also report this bug to the proper medal authorities as well.

Yup. It's true. on the upside, I just got the "perfect career" medal when I logged back into the game, with 50 points attached to it. :)... :/

AAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRGHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!
!!!!!

My fuel loss was outstripping my gains, so I switched to K9 at about 1/4 life since there were cars present to leech from, and then I entered a minefield as it ran out and I wasn't able to keep it up long enough. Great run, too, only had 1 minefield until then.

It rather sucks that those points weren't awarded. And I guess the game trailer collab ones didn't either. Oh well. I got a free medal and the perfect year finally unlocked for me when I loaded up the game.

Hopefully it will eventually be fixed.

At 4/26/10 05:33 PM, chris-marks wrote: AAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRGHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!

and such

Got it, and updated the guide a whole lot more with more information, including what may as well be considered a cheat because of how well it works. Another one bites the dust. Now that the pressure is off, I'll probably end up replaying it over and over though, despite the massive filesize. I mean, I've played Invisible Runner about 10 times since getting the last medal, because once the tension is gone it really is rather fun.

I've added a video for the third bonus room of Talesworth Adventures Ep. 1 that shows the intended solution for that room, rather than the one I provided. I've also updated my Extreme Gardening walkthrough after getting the last medal in it, to look like I care about the game, and to add some highly relevant information for chasing all golds. I know these aren't exactly games at the tips of people's tongues lately, but I figure it's still nice to let you all know about them. I also figure it makes sense for me to have all the medals in all the games I have guides up for.

At 4/26/10 05:06 PM, queenofbabes wrote: sigh. I thought it would all be taken care of when fixed....Should have waited before playing it.

Yeah me too, but it was so much fun and addicting that I kept playing even though I kinda saw this coming. Oh well.

Thank you Chris for the M-Bot update. I still don't have a single medal in that game. Gonna give it another shot this weekend so your guide should be helpful. =)

At 4/27/10 05:48 AM, Nijsse wrote:

At 4/26/10 05:06 PM, queenofbabes wrote: sigh. I thought it would all be taken care of when fixed....Should have waited before playing it.

Yeah me too, but it was so much fun and addicting that I kept playing even though I kinda saw this coming. Oh well.

Well, I'm thinking about creating a thread where I ask more info about this whole situation..
Since mods can obviously delete a user's medals (although I'm not sure whether they can delete specific ones or just the whole bunch), I wonder if they can delete my recent 0 point medals so that I can earn them again (who cares, they're easy) and get mah points...

Thank you Chris for the M-Bot update. I still don't have a single medal in that game. Gonna give it another shot this weekend so your guide should be helpful. =)

Still missing two medals, I really can't see how someone can beat the whole game without getting hit...especially during the boss battle.

At 4/27/10 08:51 AM, HeavyTank wrote:

At 4/27/10 05:48 AM, Nijsse wrote: Thank you Chris for the M-Bot update. I still don't have a single medal in that game. Gonna give it another shot this weekend so your guide should be helpful. =)

Still missing two medals, I really can't see how someone can beat the whole game without getting hit...especially during the boss battle.

You don't have to do the boss battle without getting hit. The rest of it just takes practice.

At 4/27/10 08:51 AM, HeavyTank wrote: Well, I'm thinking about creating a thread where I ask more info about this whole situation..

Please do.

So, any advice on finding the Apprentice? I have an army of level 30 characters just itching for some worthy adversaries.

At 4/27/10 01:52 PM, chris-marks wrote: So, any advice on finding the Apprentice? I have an army of level 30 characters just itching for some worthy adversaries.

afaik he appears randomly in hunts.

Got a response from PsychoGoldfish on the zero point medal problem:

Those aren't really bugged medals... we have a beta of the new api where developers can add their own medals to their games, and then those medals start out worth 0 points (to prevent spam submissions by medal whores) until they are approved by an API moderator.

Eventually this approval process will instantly parse the list of users who have unlocked it and apply the missing points, but right now that is something I have to run manually. So for the time being, a few people will be missing some total points, but rest assured they will get applied the next time I run maintainance.

Feel free to copy this message to the medals topic and be a hero. A HERO I SAY!

Interesting stuff. So, I guess there is nothing to worry about...

At 4/27/10 02:07 PM, EdyKel wrote: Got a response from PsychoGoldfish on the zero point medal problem:
Interesting stuff. So, I guess there is nothing to worry about...

Thumbs up.

I don't get it though. Why change from pre-submit approval to post-submit approval?

At 4/27/10 02:13 PM, queenofbabes wrote: Thumbs up.

I don't get it though. Why change from pre-submit approval to post-submit approval?

Most likely so that anyone can add medals, and don't have to go through admin approval processes for more automation. Also if I read the PM right, there'll be API moderators which I'm guessing will make sure the medals work.