At 6/5/09 03:50 PM, xports wrote: Well, I seem to be getting medals now, since I just got the Pervert medal.

How do you get the pervert medal? I can't figure it out.

At 6/7/09 02:21 PM, AniMetal wrote:

At 6/5/09 03:50 PM, xports wrote: Well, I seem to be getting medals now, since I just got the Pervert medal.

How do you get the pervert medal? I can't figure it out.

In the flashback you´ll see a couple with hands on the back (looks the same as on the medal icon). Stand right next to them, click on them and hold. This should give you the medal.

At 6/7/09 05:04 AM, Sonik-Team wrote:

At 6/6/09 10:00 PM, KrevZabijak wrote: Wait, just because someone got a medal and you didn't, you think they should pull a FUI2 on everyone?

It's not a matter of taking all the medals down as of course the game does work properly. If they changed the difficulty so that people playing the game after cannot gain a medal that people playing before could, that's unfair. As for the literacy medals, even if they supposedly work as intended there are instances of people getting both without opening two games at once, and people who don't get the one they should get the first time. So you could be hasty and get the pancake medal, or be patient and learn how to get both literacy medals. Seems like a fine situation to me.

I'm not so sure they changed the difficulty. He said it was possible that he did, but I somewhat doubt it. I played the game through without closing literally right after it hit the portal and it didn't seem any easier to me. Plus don't you think if it was really all that easier, and since there would have likely been at least a couple thousand people who played it before the file would have been changed that a few more people would have the medal? I checked the medals of all the people who were the first to review it and none of them have that medal, even though some of them are obviously medal collectors.

Plus I think most people (including life) usually deposit their medal points as soon as they get them. But life didn't make a deposit until the 20th. I mean life seems like a really good guy, so we want to give him the benefit of the doubt, but since the game was realeased the morning of the 19th; that means that even if it was mafe harder people should have had like a full day to try and get that medal. I'm just saying, I couldn't beat it when it must have still been the original file and neither could anybody else besides life; so it couldn't have been that much easier.

Plus I'll remind you what you said two hours after the game was submitted:

At 5/19/09 09:08 AM, HeavyTank wrote: God damn that game's medals are insane?
How are we supposed to last for 10 minutes on misslie mayhem or squash 100 pedestrians?

I'm just saying, you're a good gamer and that had to be the original file you were playing with; they just can't change them that fast. It couldn't have been that easy.

Also I don't blame the programmer for not wanting to go back and change it. He likely spent way too much time on it in the first place and was excited to finish it. He's probably moved on to bigger and better things and doesn't want to go back to old projects to fix something he doesn't see as broken. Especially the literacy medals - he warned you in his post; I didn't care enough to read it and neither did you - our faults not his. Plus the more we complain the funnier the authors prank on us is.

At 6/7/09 02:28 PM, Auz wrote:

At 6/7/09 02:21 PM, AniMetal wrote:

At 6/5/09 03:50 PM, xports wrote: Well, I seem to be getting medals now, since I just got the Pervert medal.

How do you get the pervert medal? I can't figure it out.

In the flashback you´ll see a couple with hands on the back (looks the same as on the medal icon). Stand right next to them, click on them and hold. This should give you the medal.

There is no need to click and hold, just stand next to them. See 1:54 in this video

At 6/7/09 04:37 PM, Sonik-Team wrote: If you're still talking to me, you just quoted the wrong person?

my bad, I'm a tard.

At 6/7/09 04:04 PM, greeneggs4spam wrote: Also I don't blame the programmer for not wanting to go back and change it. He likely spent way too much time on it in the first place and was excited to finish it. He's probably moved on to bigger and better things and doesn't want to go back to old projects to fix something he doesn't see as broken.

I do blame the programmer because if he properly beta tested the game there would be no need for him to go back and fix the game. Why should we suffer because he was too lazy to beta test the whole game properly, especially with something as important as the NG medals beta. Also if he is too lazy to fix it, such as dimz from FUI2, I don't see why the medal should stay. Also FUI2 had fine medals as well as glitched medals and they all got deleted.

Especially the literacy medals - he warned you in his post; I didn't care enough to read it and neither did you - our faults not his. Plus the more we complain the funnier the authors prank on us is.

Yah he did warn us and I DID read it but due to another PROGRAMMING error I was screwed out of the I Am Literate medal. I opened the game in a pop up loaded it up hit new game went back to the portal to see if there was a new movie/game to review. When I came back to it the tutorial was between 5-12 seconds I then, out of habit, clicked on the screen which advanced the screen, even though the screen said hit space to advance, so it IS the programmers fault I didn't get my literacy medal.

Also the medal system is not something to be pulling a prank on people with.

At 6/7/09 11:55 PM, SevasTra wrote:
I do blame the programmer because if he properly beta tested the game there would be no need for him to go back and fix the game. Why should we suffer because he was too lazy to beta test the whole game properly, especially with something as important as the NG medals beta. Also if he is too lazy to fix it, such as dimz from FUI2, I don't see why the medal should stay. Also FUI2 had fine medals as well as glitched medals and they all got deleted.

This just supports my whole point. If you want your game to be part of the medal system, then you are responsible for it. You added the medals in the first place. The medals are here for us to earn them, so if a medal is unearnable it's your damn fucking fault and it's your job to fix it.
It's like a game that doesn't work, you can't just leave it like that. That's the purpose.

Yah he did warn us and I DID read it but due to another PROGRAMMING error I was screwed out of the I Am Literate medal. I opened the game in a pop up loaded it up hit new game went back to the portal to see if there was a new movie/game to review. When I came back to it the tutorial was between 5-12 seconds I then, out of habit, clicked on the screen which advanced the screen, even though the screen said hit space to advance, so it IS the programmers fault I didn't get my literacy medal.

Technically if you didn't earn a medal, then you should be able to delete the save file on your computer and be able to earn at least one of the two, if not both. Because the game checks in the system to see if you have either medal right?
Try that sevastra, delete your save fil and try to earn a medal, or both! I think it should work.

Those two medals are not broken. You cannot be literate and illiterate at the same time.
It's like complaining about a game that, for example, rewards you a medal for not dying your first play through, and then another medal for those that do die.
You would still complain and want both medals when clearly, you shouldn't.

Thanks Spiffy but I already tried that multiple times I even tried to get it on another PC and nothing.

At 6/8/09 12:21 AM, KrevZabijak wrote: Those two medals are not broken. You cannot be literate and illiterate at the same time.
It's like complaining about a game that, for example, rewards you a medal for not dying your first play through, and then another medal for those that do die.
You would still complain and want both medals when clearly, you shouldn't.

I never said anything about wanting both I don't mind the either or medals, I'm angry that you can't get either. Now your argument is you can't be both literate and illiterate so shouldn't that be the same as that you can't be neither literate nor illiterate at the same time?

At 6/8/09 12:45 AM, SevasTra wrote:
I never said anything about wanting both I don't mind the either or medals, I'm angry that you can't get either. Now your argument is you can't be both literate and illiterate so shouldn't that be the same as that you can't be neither literate nor illiterate at the same time?

Yea I don't think Krev understood your point. He is right, you should be AT LEAST allowed one or the other.

I think two users should test out digdogy's way of getting both literate medals. Get someone trustworthy to log into your account from his/her location and get the missing medal.

maybe open up a shit load of windows to test out different methods

At 6/8/09 01:30 AM, Fleshlight wrote: I think two users should test out digdogy's way of getting both literate medals. Get someone trustworthy to log into your account from his/her location and get the missing medal.

maybe open up a shit load of windows to test out different methods

Well I tried on another PC with another IP and that didn't work.
I also used IE, I always use FireFox, and logged onto my alt account opened the game with that. When I hit new game and the cutscene before the tutorial was playing I logged out of my alt and logged into my main account. Then I got the illiterate medal on one pop up and then the literate medal on the other but they registered on my alt account even though I was logged in on my main.

Seems pretty fool proof unless you get them on the first try.
The only thing I can think of is maybe try a bunch of pop ups and try to confuse the server or something.

At 6/8/09 01:30 AM, Fleshlight wrote: I think two users should test out digdogy's way of getting both literate medals. Get someone trustworthy to log into your account from his/her location and get the missing medal.

maybe open up a shit load of windows to test out different methods

UH, didn't we say this already?
NG checks if you have medals or not, so the location, browser and IP are trivial....

At 6/8/09 03:05 AM, HeavyTank wrote:

At 6/8/09 01:30 AM, Fleshlight wrote: I think two users should test out digdogy's way of getting both literate medals. Get someone trustworthy to log into your account from his/her location and get the missing medal.

maybe open up a shit load of windows to test out different methods

UH, didn't we say this already?
NG checks if you have medals or not, so the location, browser and IP are trivial....

Yea and my guess is that it probably checks to see if you have any other medals, then that makes it so that you can't get the literate ones, if you messed up and got neither.

At 6/8/09 12:15 AM, SpiffyMasta wrote: This just supports my whole point. If you want your game to be part of the medal system, then you are responsible for it. You added the medals in the first place. The medals are here for us to earn them, so if a medal is unearnable it's your damn fucking fault and it's your job to fix it.
It's like a game that doesn't work, you can't just leave it like that. That's the purpose.

Nothing in this game is broken though as far as we know. Just because we can't do it doesn't mean it's impossible. For all we know life or Mysterio are just better than everybody else and got it legit. Maybe none of us is good enough; but I bet you anything - if you squash 100 pedestrians you will get that medal. Too hard does not equal broken or glitched. Besides isn't it good to have medals that not everybody can get? They are supposed to be acheivements aren't they? It's not much of an achievement if anybody can do it.The FU2 medals were glitched because of coding errors; this game appears to be coded perfectly.

At 6/7/09 11:55 PM, SevasTra wrote: Yah he did warn us and I DID read it but due to another PROGRAMMING error I was screwed out of the I Am Literate medal. I opened the game in a pop up loaded it up hit new game went back to the portal to see if there was a new movie/game to review. When I came back to it the tutorial was between 5-12 seconds I then, out of habit, clicked on the screen which advanced the screen, even though the screen said hit space to advance, so it IS the programmers fault I didn't get my literacy medal.

Also the medal system is not something to be pulling a prank on people with.

Oh please. Besides the fact that clicking doesn't advance the screen (nice made up excuse though) it doesn't really matter anyways. The medal works as meant. And since when are you the one who decides what the medal system is or isn't for? Apparently Tom or PG or whoever reviews the medals felt the literate/illiterate medals were appropriate. Ultimately the author and whoever the reviews the medals have the final say about what is allowed and what isn't, if you don't like it or agree - that's your problem, not theirs.

The medals work as intended and the game seems to be coded flawlessly. It's bad enough that people are trying to get the medals removed, but it's absolutely ridiculous that people are attacking the programmer over this.

At 6/8/09 03:14 AM, SpiffyMasta wrote: Yea and my guess is that it probably checks to see if you have any other medals, then that makes it so that you can't get the literate ones, if you messed up and got neither.

Nope after it went through when I clicked on the screen, yes it did advance when I clicked greeneggs4spam I didn't make it up, I closed the game right away and tried again and I waited like a minute and I got nothing and I had no medals for it yet.
I'm guessing the game inserts something on your profile on the NG server and checks for that.

At 6/8/09 03:24 AM, greeneggs4spam wrote: Oh please. Besides the fact that clicking doesn't advance the screen (nice made up excuse though) it doesn't really matter anyways. The medal works as meant. And since when are you the one who decides what the medal system is or isn't for? Apparently Tom or PG or whoever reviews the medals felt the literate/illiterate medals were appropriate. Ultimately the author and whoever the reviews the medals have the final say about what is allowed and what isn't, if you don't like it or agree - that's your problem, not theirs.

The medals work as intended and the game seems to be coded flawlessly. It's bad enough that people are trying to get the medals removed, but it's absolutely ridiculous that people are attacking the programmer over this.

As I said above it did advance on a click it's not made up, it was probably the earlier version he accidentally submitted that he fixed now.
Also how do you know Tom or PG even reviews them. Last time I heard all you had to do was send a folder with the medal icons and their values to Tom and he will implement them into the game. I'm pretty sure he doesn't review the medals code in the flash file, which is where all the coding for them is not on NGs side. Hell that's part of the problems with the medals is that there is NO ONE who reviews them.

I don't want the medals taken away I just want the game edited so that one or the other literacy medal is possible, not the one shot and you're dome thing, and make it so the pancake medal is now possible because life is the only one who got it legit and he got it when the game first came out, before the update. That will never happen though because the programmer abandoned the game, hence why people are attacking him, and doesn't want anything to do with the game. If he really cared about the game he would fix errors in it for a long time, not dump it after 2 weeks.

At 6/8/09 03:14 AM, SpiffyMasta wrote:

Well, l want to thank you for your wonderful walkthrough of The Classroom 3, l wouldn't get Perfectionist without it....
By the way, it seems like l have to get to a close-to-failing-point every time l try to beat a game without dying..remember when l almost died in Red Moon at the final boss fight?
Yeah, this happened here:
in the level where you have to alter the tests l had filled the test bar and l was ready to leave, but the door wouldn't let me out.
I had a tiny bit left, but the teacher was correcting them..so l got near them for a fraction of a second and then ran like hell to the door.
I really don't know why l didn't get caught since l was changing the tests while she was correcting them (maybe she's just stupid :P ), but it was a huge piece of luck.
I had no problems with the other levels.
Again, thanks.

At 6/8/09 04:16 AM, HeavyTank wrote: Again, thanks.

Hey, you're very welcome. I always feel rewarded when someone says thanks for something you do. Well appreciated.

Yea I kind of hate that when you're so close, it stresses me out. Kind of like that stupid stickya game, that was so god awful, but it was the best game to stress me out completely.

Now alkie 2 is giving me a shot to the nerves. Hopefully i'll be done with that soon.

Hay guys.

For Epic2 I was thinking of making a "Resend Medals" button at the end of the game in case some failed to register for the user. Would basically try to give ye all the medals ye got in that sitting again.

But I'm thinking memory haxors could abuse that so dunno.

At 6/8/09 06:39 AM, matt-likes-swords wrote: Hay guys.

For Epic2 I was thinking of making a "Resend Medals" button at the end of the game in case some failed to register for the user. Would basically try to give ye all the medals ye got in that sitting again.

But I'm thinking memory haxors could abuse that so dunno.

That sounds like a fantastic idea to me if you could make that hack-free.

And to be honest, even if it can be hacked, the hackers are only ruining it for themselves. They´ll miss the fun of actually playing the games, while at the same time nobody´s gonna care anymore about their MP-count.

So I´d say: add it :)

At 6/8/09 06:39 AM, matt-likes-swords wrote: Hay guys.

For Epic2 I was thinking of making a "Resend Medals" button at the end of the game in case some failed to register for the user. Would basically try to give ye all the medals ye got in that sitting again.

But I'm thinking memory haxors could abuse that so dunno.

I've considered that idea myself (regardless of my lack of games). One problem is evident, as, if the data is saved on a person's computer, they can log out, log in as someone else, and resend, getting the medals for anyone who asks (or pays, which would just be sad).
This, of course, is if you weren't to save the username along with the medals. Then, the problem would be with hackers changing the values, but that's a problem with all medal games anyway. Hackers will find one way or another. Your only hope is an insane amount of cryptic variable names and linking some made-up variable values (i.e. variables not used in game) to others, in which not changing all of these variables would result in the data file flushing at next play.

Either way, I like the idea. Let's hope you can make it as hack-resistant as possible!

At 6/8/09 06:39 AM, matt-likes-swords wrote: Hay guys.

For Epic2 I was thinking of making a "Resend Medals" button at the end of the game in case some failed to register for the user. Would basically try to give ye all the medals ye got in that sitting again.

But I'm thinking memory haxors could abuse that so dunno.

I would think that maybe having some sort of save game, save point function would remedy part of that also. That way I don't have to restart all over, just one battle or something.

Well, the only medals that take a lot of effort to get are the ones for beating the game.
So if the button is at the end of the game, and doesn't save any data, then there prolly won't be any problems since you'd hafta beat the game anyway.

At 6/8/09 11:38 AM, matt-likes-swords wrote: Well, the only medals that take a lot of effort to get are the ones for beating the game.
So if the button is at the end of the game, and doesn't save any data, then there prolly won't be any problems since you'd hafta beat the game anyway.

Yea but how would it know that we have beaten the game?

Say I am playing the game, then I beat the boss at the end. I think I am getting the medal right, so I clsoe out of the game, then realize it didn't pop up! Isn't the purpose of this kind of magic button for that? Because it sounds like you want to make a button that we'd have to keep the game open for it to work.

But if you make a file that goes on the user's computer, then it would be easy to log in to someone else's account and push the button, since the file is on your computer, and give them the same medal.

I think this is what people are saying, I hope that explains it better.

On another note. Has anyone that has the Drunken Deity medal died on the last level?

Cause that just happened to me and it is so goddamn fucking frustrating!!!!! ARRRGGHHH.
I'm about to rip my computer to pieces. Stupid game is really pushing my buttons.
I'm gonna give it one more try.

At 6/8/09 12:18 PM, SpiffyMasta wrote: Because it sounds like you want to make a button that we'd have to keep the game open for it to work.

Just check your profile for the medal after you've beaten the game. If it isn't there, press the "magic button". Simple.

At 6/8/09 12:18 PM, SpiffyMasta wrote: I'm gonna give it one more try.

Good luck...

At 6/8/09 11:38 AM, matt-likes-swords wrote: Well, the only medals that take a lot of effort to get are the ones for beating the game.
So if the button is at the end of the game, and doesn't save any data, then there prolly won't be any problems since you'd hafta beat the game anyway.

i really really like this idea... means i wont get angry at matt-likes-swords ever again :3... of course if the system is down for over 24 hours il have to leave the computer on over night and this could be a problemo... but at least its an improvement to the hours spent on EFB... i want my hours back darn it!... i could of spent it playing AK2... *which i started to play again... my word im sooooo rusty now :P*

Workin on Medals for Brawl Royale btw.

At 6/8/09 03:14 AM, SpiffyMasta wrote:

At 6/8/09 03:05 AM, HeavyTank wrote:

At 6/8/09 01:30 AM, Fleshlight wrote: I think two users should test out digdogy's way of getting both literate medals. Get someone trustworthy to log into your account from his/her location and get the missing medal.

maybe open up a shit load of windows to test out different methods

UH, didn't we say this already?
NG checks if you have medals or not, so the location, browser and IP are trivial....

Yea and my guess is that it probably checks to see if you have any other medals, then that makes it so that you can't get the literate ones, if you messed up and got neither.

I just got an idea. What if, we delete the save file and wait until the medal system is down/not working. Then when we load up the game, it should still be able to get our account info and everything; but maybe it won't be able to access our medals - and then we wait until the medal system is working and try for the medal?

So crazy, it just may work???

At 6/8/09 04:26 PM, greeneggs4spam wrote:
I just got an idea. What if, we delete the save file and wait until the medal system is down/not working. Then when we load up the game, it should still be able to get our account info and everything; but maybe it won't be able to access our medals - and then we wait until the medal system is working and try for the medal?

So crazy, it just may work???

I agree this would probably work, but how do we know when the medal system is down??