Beta Flash 9!

[Afro-Ninja]

Beta Flash 9!

Flash professional 9.0 and Flash Player 9.0 are already making headway on the net. If you weren't aware you can download an early version of Flash Player 9 for your browsers. Why get flash player 9 if there's no Flash 9 yet? Well, developers can start downloading the Flash 9 Beta, which is essentially Flash 8 with support for Actionscript 3.0.

To the end user you wont notice much besides smoother-running applications, but to the developer AS 3.0 is a complete facelift to the already existing AS1.0/2.0. Actionscript 3.0 was previously only available in the Flex line of products, which were basically IDEs suited to program development using AS 3.0. If you want to check out the newest release of Flex, go here.

If you're wondering what I've been up to... well, I've got a few projects I'm working on. My focus has switched though, due to the development of the SServer system by Josh of psychogoldfish.com. SServer is a secure and easy way to create flash games with online playability, and is currently in Beta stages. So don't be too surprised if you see your favorite worms-themed battle game make an online appearance in the near future ;)

Oh and hey. Go say hi to my forum members. They're getting lonely :(

[Glaiel-Gamer]

i thought flash player 9 is the full version

[Afro-Ninja]

At 8/14/06 02:13 PM, Glaiel_Gamer wrote: i thought flash player 9 is the full version

To be honest I wasn't sure, but I assumed there was going to be another release or something of the sort, to support Flash 9's actual new features. Unless that support is already there... Because as far as I know the only reason for flash player 9 was because of the addition of AS 3 in the flash 9 beta

Are the action Scripts easy?, because Flash 6 use too be the best with AS?

Well.. technically Flash 7/8 have been the best for AS because you can use AS 2.0. Flash 6 only allowed AS 1.0. AS 3.0 is much more like a mainstream programming language, like Java.

[Glaiel-Gamer]

At 8/14/06 02:15 PM, Greenskullkid wrote:

At 8/14/06 02:13 PM, Glaiel_Gamer wrote: i thought flash player 9 is the full version

Flash player, is what plays flashes, like on NG and stuff.
But flash is what you need, too make flashes.

dude i'm not stupid (see profile, i know my flash stuff) i was talking about flash 9 being the full version of the player, cause ninja said it was a beta of flash player 9

At 8/14/06 02:21 PM, Afro_Ninja wrote:

At 8/14/06 02:13 PM, Glaiel_Gamer wrote: i thought flash player 9 is the full version

To be honest I wasn't sure, but I assumed there was going to be another release or something of the sort, to support Flash 9's actual new features. Unless that support is already there... Because as far as I know the only reason for flash player 9 was because of the addition of AS 3 in the flash 9 beta

Well you know since adobe is now staggering the releases of player and authoring tool i do think this is the final version.

But for new features and stuff you know it's always possible to take advange of stuff like glow filters and such without actually using a filter, it is simply bitmap data functions, which was probably acting behind the scenes before flash 8. Tweens and stuff too. It's all converted to AS in the end.

So like if flash 9 was to support 3D animations and stuff, macromedia would simply build a class into the authoring tool that converts all this 3D stuff into actionscript, much how they do with tweens and filters.

There's tons of possibilities for new features without actually editing the player.

[d2312564]

Cool Afro_Ninja!

All great stuff. I have a question for you.

Do you know any good books that teach ActionScript 3? I was talking to some other people about this, and we don't think there are any good ones out yet, but I wanted to know if you knew of any off hand.

Also, for that online game server, wouldn't it take some VERY powerful servers to handle the amount of people that could be playing territory war online at the same time if it becomes as popular as territory war?

I'll try to come around your forum a little more :)

[Depredation]

Sounds good. I guess denvish will need to get to work on AS3: Main then, lol.

What new features are there with AS3?

[d2312564]

At 8/14/06 03:12 PM, Depredation wrote: Sounds good. I guess denvish will need to get to work on AS3: Main then, lol.

What new features are there with AS3?

I think it might be cool if it's kept to the same one.

There are a TON of new things. Well first of all, it's supposed to be much faster. Second, a lot of old functions have been removed. Also, it supports regex which might be cool.

But like all the ways of doing things seem sooo different. That's why I really need a book to learn from. Until there's a good book I'm sticking to AS2.

[Depredation]

At 8/14/06 03:15 PM, DFox2 wrote: But like all the ways of doing things seem sooo different. That's why I really need a book to learn from. Until there's a good book I'm sticking to AS2.

Is there anywhere online, i'm a cheap bastard, lol.

dElta already started Making AS's for flash 9, lol.

[Afro-Ninja]

There's tons of possibilities for new features without actually editing the player.

this is true

Do you know any good books that teach ActionScript 3? I was talking to some other people about this, and we don't think there are any good ones out yet, but I wanted to know if you knew of any off hand.

none that I know of : (
I'll probably pick one up when I find one, I'd like a nice summary of changes from AS2-3

Also, for that online game server, wouldn't it take some VERY powerful servers to handle the amount of people that could be playing territory war online at the same time if it becomes as popular as territory war?

hard to say. TW games would only support two people at a time and the updates aren't constant, IE, since it's turn based there's less info to keep passing back and forth.

[Afro-Ninja]

At 8/14/06 03:12 PM, Depredation wrote: Sounds good. I guess denvish will need to get to work on AS3: Main then, lol.

What new features are there with AS3?

list of new features can be found here

http://www.adobe.com..cript3_overview.html

[d2312564]

At 8/14/06 03:21 PM, Afro_Ninja wrote: none that I know of : (
I'll probably pick one up when I find one, I'd like a nice summary of changes from AS2-3

OK, cool. That's the exact reason I'd like it. I know AS2 pretty well, but when I look at AS3 I'm like I knew how to do that with AS2 but have no idea how to do it here. When you do find a good book, I hope you make an announcement about it, because I think it would help a LOT of people here including be like this post. Once there's a good book out, I'm off to buy it.

hard to say. TW games would only support two people at a time and the updates aren't constant, IE, since it's turn based there's less info to keep passing back and forth.

I didn't think of that, and it's true. It probably be the perfect game for online play. But, I mean NOTHING can be as exciting as playing it next to your friends. I don't usually play Flash games, but me and my friends were playing it during website club and I actually got addicted. So yeah, an online version would be awesome.

[RiftMaster]

AS 3.0 doesn't seem to be anything special from a practical standpoint. Just seems to be an optimized version of AS 2.0. It's not like there's alot of new features (like what we saw with the Bitmap Data object and the filters in Flash 8...). It's mostly just technical stuff, like more variable data types and crap for improving performance, nothing too interesting :/

I wish they would add more capabilities to the sound object in flash. Like the ability to control pitch and add filters. We can do quasi-pixel shader fx with flash now, so why can't we do the equivalent fx with sound?

But then I like to bitch. I remember before flash 8, i was like "why the hell isn't there anything in flash that lets you do real-time blurring and displacement with graphics?!"

:P

[Glaiel-Gamer]

At 8/14/06 04:24 PM, RiftMaster wrote: AS 3.0 doesn't seem to be anything special from a practical standpoint. Just seems to be an optimized version of AS 2.0.

Improving performance is more than enough.

We can do real-time flash 3D now, we can essentially write our own pixel shaders.

There's so many times where speed has hindered development of certain things in flash, and the improved speed really opens new doors for flash developement.

So although right now there's nothing too useful for it, you can expect to see much more stuff when the release flash 9, cause hopefully they will build in some new special AS classes to help us out with things.

[JD77]

Lol flash 9 got released like 2months ago...

[KingRJ]

At 8/14/06 01:56 PM, Afro_Ninja wrote: Beta Flash 9!

OMGOSH! Again?! Every year its a new flash now!

Flash professional 9.0 and Flash Player 9.0 are already making headway on the net

I bet Flash Professional 9.0 is only for win2000 and up, no <3 for us old 98'ers.

:If you weren't aware you can download an early version of Flash Player 9 for your browsers. Why get flash player 9 if there's no Flash 9 yet? Well, developers can start downloading the Flash 9 Beta, which is essentially Flash 8 with support for Actionscript 3.0.
So Im guessing I better get my lazy ass up and update my flash player.

To the end user you wont notice much besides smoother-running applications, but to the developer AS 3.0 is a complete facelift to the already existing AS1.0/2.0. Actionscript 3.0 was previously only available in the Flex line of products, which were basically IDEs suited to program development using AS 3.0. If you want to check out the newest release of Flex, go here.

If you're wondering what I've been up to...

I'm sure as hell am.

well, I've got a few projects I'm working on. My focus has switched though, due to the development of the SServer system by Josh of psychogoldfish.com. SServer is a secure and easy way to create flash games with online playability, and is currently in Beta stages. So don't be too surprised if you see your favorite worms-themed battle game make an online appearance in the near future ;)

YAY FOR SSERVER!

Oh and hey. Go say hi to my forum members. They're getting lonely :(

For that very sad sentence, Im gonna get a account on the forums. :(

[Masculine]

Reminded me of James's post actually.

[RiftMaster]

At 8/14/06 04:55 PM, Glaiel_Gamer wrote:

At 8/14/06 04:24 PM, RiftMaster wrote: AS 3.0 doesn't seem to be anything special from a practical standpoint. Just seems to be an optimized version of AS 2.0.

Improving performance is more than enough.

We can do real-time flash 3D now, we can essentially write our own pixel shaders.

There's so many times where speed has hindered development of certain things in flash, and the improved speed really opens new doors for flash developement.

So although right now there's nothing too useful for it, you can expect to see much more stuff when the release flash 9, cause hopefully they will build in some new special AS classes to help us out with things.

Obviously performance is vital. I was merely saying it doesn't excite me too much without new functions. And I know 3d can be done right now, I was just using that as an example... if you had read more carefully.

What you just told me I already know.... I was creating flash when you were still shoving crayons up your nose :P

No hard feelings but read my posts more carefully before you get all zealous and try to correct me.

[RiftMaster]

At 8/14/06 06:41 PM, Masculine wrote: Reminded me of James's post actually.

haha yeah. I could have sworn somebody already made an FP post about Flash 9....

[DarkSoldier]

-well my sis says it better to get it when it not beta

[d2312564]

At 8/14/06 07:06 PM, RiftMaster wrote:

At 8/14/06 06:41 PM, Masculine wrote: Reminded me of James's post actually.

haha yeah. I could have sworn somebody already made an FP post about Flash 9....

James was about Flash Player 9 beta. This is completely different.

[RiftMaster]

At 8/14/06 07:23 PM, DFox2 wrote:

At 8/14/06 07:06 PM, RiftMaster wrote:

At 8/14/06 06:41 PM, Masculine wrote: Reminded me of James's post actually.

haha yeah. I could have sworn somebody already made an FP post about Flash 9....

James was about Flash Player 9 beta. This is completely different.

Whatever you say Mr. Expert.

[MindChamber]

At 8/14/06 01:56 PM, Afro_Ninja wrote: Beta Flash 9!

Oh and hey. Go say hi to my forum members. They're getting lonely :(

I wonder why..

[RupeeClock]

Somewhat old, I've been using Adobe Flash 9 public Alpha since the same day I download Flash Player 9! :D

Infact, my clockday flash is made with it, it runs just like Flash 8 though but it does seem to create a little bit less lag.

[David]

Thank you for the link.

[ExtraLife]

At 8/14/06 01:56 PM, Afro_Ninja wrote: So don't be too surprised if you see your favorite worms-themed battle game make an online appearance in the near future ;)

Sweet. Just as planned. I remember suggesting this months ago when TW first came out on the forums but, I can't seem to find the post. :D

Oh and hey. Go say hi to my forum members. They're getting lonely :(

YES PLEASE, JESUS PLEASE!

At 8/14/06 07:44 PM, MindChamber wrote:

I wonder why..

lmao at the guy on the right side.

[PsychoGoldfish]

I heard a rumor that there is going to be a beta launch of some gay ass game using that new fangled SServer multiplyer thingamajig.

[Freelance-Magician]

One can only hope that Flash 9 would bring in more amazing flashes...

[Afro-Ninja]

haha yeah. I could have sworn somebody already made an FP post about Flash 9....

eh, whoops, I must have missed that one. Reminders never hurt.

I wonder why..

Sorry my forum members don't have life size robocop helmets to wear : (

I heard a rumor that there is going to be a beta launch of some gay ass game using that new fangled SServer multiplyer thingamajig.

Probably some gay ass thing that involves rainbow colored balls

[jmtb02]

Just curious, is Flash Player 9 the standard now for Flash plugins, or is it still considered a beta? Obviously the Flash 9 Public Beta is beta, but what about the flash plugin?

I just wanted to make sure if I did anything AS 3.0, that it would be accessible to most Flash users (granted that people are still updating to Flash 8).

[d2312564]

At 8/15/06 03:53 AM, jmtb02 wrote: I just wanted to make sure if I did anything AS 3.0, that it would be accessible to most Flash users (granted that people are still updating to Flash 8).

It wouldn't be.

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